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Thanks ethereal reality. That is a great picture. Yes, it must be that dark rooftop just behind those trees 1 building in from First. Amazing! I thought I had read the area was getting a little seedy by the late teens, but not from that picture. I do know that by the early 20's they were living in Boyle Heights (the burbs) where he lived until he passed away in 1966. And thanks GaylordWilshire for the links. Great stuff. Mark |
JohnnySocko, thanks for clarifying the details about the rail-line up to Mt. Lowe Resort. It can all be a bit confusing.
I'd love to hike the old 'right-of-way' up to Mt. Lowe (with the old trestles still intact in places). It just sounds so cool....almost like finding buried treasure (well, sort of). The postcard you posted was great...."cold as charity"....go figure. That is some pretty obscure slang. |
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^^^That is such an excellent link GaylordWilshire.
It's so cool to come across remnants from the recent past like that. I couldn't believe the old supports for the overhead power lines still protrude from the rock at the Granite Gate. Also the huge mechanical parts from the incline railroad. The next time I visit L.A. I am definitely going to take this hike. :) http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4...tlowead001.jpg ebay Below: Now this looks truly frightening! http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/178...ailwayjuly.jpg Bancroft Library UCB July 4, 1893 http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4...ancroftlib.png Bancroft Library UCB |
Below: This illustration clarified MANY things me.
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9...re1905cabl.jpg cable-car-guy As did this one. http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3...ddeauslowe.jpg ABOVE: I had pictured the Echo Mountain House to be on the summit, and the funicular/incline portion of the railway to be the LAST leg of the journey up Mt. Lowe instead of at the beginning. I apologize if I mislead anyone with some of my earlier posts. http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7...irearticle.jpg cable-car-guy Below: The layout of the Echo Mountain House atop the funicular railway. http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6...ssebastian.jpg kansas_sebastian You can also find great photos of the hike up to Mt. Lowe here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/kansas_...7619603744339/ Also go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Lowe_Railway I just noticed JohnnySocko previously supplied this link.....but I think it bares (bears?) repeating. :) |
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It took me a while to get around to it but I finally took the pictures on January 3, 2010-- and then I forgot about them. Here they are.
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^^^Hi sopas_ej, that YouTube video doesn't work.
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Good eye kanhawk. I think you're onto something there. It's very much a possibility that Hotel Fleur-De-Lis was the author's inspiration. Below: A raid on a house of prostitution. Los Angeles 1948 http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9...houseofpro.jpg ucla archive |
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Yeah, the time code and photos were supposed to correspond to the shots of the Ricardos' and Mertzes' arrival at their hotel in that "Hollywood At Last" episode. |
The "Lucy" video must have JUST been pulled. It worked fine yesterday morning, and I've watched it before here.
As for the Fleur de Lis, perhaps Ellroy was inspired by this one in Hollywood, "originally built for actresses — an apartment hotel for those on their way up." http://www.swelgroup.com/fleur.htm NOT that one still equates acting with prostitution--the ladies who built the original WCTU building downtown might have done so, but I would never make such an assumption, even in these days of Paris Hilton etc...hmmm, or would I?) Anyway, I wonder if the Grand Ave Fleur de Lis later moved itself to N. Whitley, or if it's just another hotel by that name. I know that the Black Dahlia was living in an apartment building on N. Cherokee when she died, also apparently for single young ladies, very close to N. Whitley--I'm sure Ellroy would have known about that building. Btw, I once made up a "James Ellroy Tour" using his book "My Dark Places"--centers on Hancock Park, Larchmont area, and other areas north of Wilshire toward downtown, his childhood addresses and young-adult haunts.... a good noir-in-the-daytime driving tour. I'l have to see if I can dig it out. |
Wow...I didn't know something like the Mt. Lowe Railroad existed in SoCal.
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Gaylord Wilshire, your "James Ellroy Tour" sounds interesting.
Ellroy's book about his own mother's unsolved murder is really haunting. I found it difficult to get it out of my mind. |
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I hear you're being inundated with rain in the Los Angeles basin.
I hope everyone's safe. Below: A 1948 rainstorm at 5th & Flower Street. http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8...rmat5thflo.jpg ucla archive Below: A 1950 rainstorm at Sepulveda & Slauson. http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/2...daslausona.jpg ucla archives Below: A 1910 rainstorm at 7th & Grand Ave. http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8...e7thstin19.jpg ucla archives |
Can't help but notice the semaphore signal in the 1948 pic and the signals in the 1950 pic that could almost be current. Great pics.
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The Embers Lounge (1963) 11332 Washington Blvd. Whittier
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5...ounge1963f.png http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3...123embers1.png http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8...123embers2.png tikiroom.com The bar features murals and portraits of nubile 'devil' girls tempting men by the local artist Frank Bowers. Below are more photos of the 'she-devil' paintings posted by John-O at www.tikiroom.com http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1...postedbyjo.png http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6...ers3ajohno.png http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/9...23embers3b.png http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3...23embers3c.png http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7...23embers3d.png posted by John-O In that last pic, it looks like there is also a muscular boy-devil far right. http://www.tikiroom.com/tikicentral/...53&forum=16&20 I had to posts these on NLA....the place drips L.A. noir. __ |
Great pics, ethereal. So fitting too because of our current rain. It hasn't rained this hard in a long time, it seems.
The Embers looks mighty tempting; maybe if I'm in Whittier some time I'll grab a cocktail there. ;) |
I posted the following photos today on the Aon Center thread,
so I thought I'd go ahead and post them here as well. Below: Aon Center construction 1973. http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6...kyline1973.jpg ucla archives Below: Another photo of the Aon Center several months later (still in 1973). http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/1...apers1973a.jpg ucla archives |
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I love all the advertisements and different font types in this photograph.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4...me123sbroa.jpg usc digital archive Above: 123 S. Broadway in 1949. It looks like Broadway could use some curb work. |
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usc digital archive Above: Wilshire & Flower Street area in 1951. Far left is the art deco Richfield Building. You can also see the General Petroleum Building under construction. Today the Petroleum Bldg. is the Pegasus Apartments. http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6...egasuscopy.jpg cqkinla on flickr |
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usc digital archive Above: Looking north along Broadway from 11th street. http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5...n8thstsmai.jpg usc digital archive Above: 8th Street & S. Main St. |
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usc digital archive Above: Looking north along Broadway between 2nd & 3rd Streets. http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2...ongmainbtw.jpg usc digital archive Above: Looking north along Main Street between 2nd & 3rd Streets. I like the cafeteria sign with the clock. |
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usc digital archive Above: North along Main Street between 1st & 2nd streets. http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9...tweenmainl.jpg usc digital library Above: First Street between Main & Los Angeles Street. |
Belasco Theater.
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6...theater191.jpg usc digital archiv Above: No date or address. |
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That wasn't the only Belasco Theater...there was also the one that was adjacent to the Mayan Theater at Hill & Olympic: http://sites.google.com/site/losange...-geocities.jpg (I have a slightly better historic photo of the two, but I just realized it's on my work PC. Bummer...) Both buildings still exist. The Mayan Theater is obviously still an active theater, and one with which I have a personal connection: My sister is co-creator, co-producer and performer in Lucha VaVoom, a quintessentially Los Angeles attraction whose "home base" is the Mayan. The Mayan's current owners also own the former Belasco theater next door, but sadly that building is only used as a storage annex for the Mayan. |
Such cool photos, you guys!
Here's one from outside the big city, in Alhambra, courtesy of LAPL; a car accident, 1941, on Valley Boulevard: http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics48/00073540.jpg |
And some Then and Nows:
1927: Looking north on Griffith Park Blvd. at Hyperion, Silverlake http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1...nhyperiona.jpg USC archive 2010: Looking north on Griffith Park Blvd. at Hyperion, Silverlake http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/417...ngriffithp.jpg Photo by Me 1930s: 6000 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood. I'm surprised to learn this used to be a market. http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/638...tblvd1930s.jpg USC archive 2010: 6000 Sunset Blvd., Hollywood. This is now part of the Sunset Gower Studios, I think. http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5649/p1090617.jpg Photo by Me 1930s: 8423 Wilshire Blvd., Beverly Hills. This was a market and gas station, a pre-cursor to the gas station mini-marts that exist today, perhaps? It could also be a proto-strip mall too. http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9...lvdbeverly.jpg USC archive 2010: 8423 Wilshire Blvd., Beverly Hills. It is now a Porsche dealership. http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4544/p1090630.jpg Photo by Me |
Sopas_ej, your before/after photos are great.
I love that old photo of the Cashis King Market on Sunset. It's too bad they covered up the graceful art deco details, and added those strange gold squares with stars. It's also great the market/gas station in Beverly Hills has survived all these years. |
The Westminster Hotel at 4th & Main in 1900.
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/916...sterhotelw.jpg usc digital archive Below: A lunch menu from the Westminster Hotel dated 1901. http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/214...instermenu.jpg NYPL "Hmmm......I can't decide if I should have the pickled lamb's tongue or the pig's feet in jelly". |
Here are a few more menus from the Westminster Hotel.
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/497...nstermenu2.jpg NYPL http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/218...stermenubr.jpg NYPL http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/297...stermenudi.jpg NYPL |
I think for breakfast, I'd like the fried mush.
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The Mayan Theater 1927.
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/546...eaterbuilt.jpg usc digital archive Above: It looks like human sacrifices took place in this building. I love it. Below: Another great view, also showing the Belasco Theater to the Mayan's right. http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7...heater1925.jpg ucla archive You should save these two photos for your sister Johnny Socko. |
The first Los Angeles Athletic Club located on the west side of Spring Street between 29th & 31st Streets in 1885.
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3...eticsclubo.jpg usc digital archive I love the brave kids on the roof. Too bad the one at the peak got his head chopped off in the photo. |
The Occidental College Football Team 1894.
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4...talcollege.jpg ucla archive I think the affectionate guys on the upper left are great. Can you imagine today's football players posing like that. What happened between then and now? |
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One thing I've always wondered is whether the exterior was painted in bright colors in the early days. I think I may have read someplace that it was. For most of my lifetime, it was your basic sandstone color -- like an actual "ruin". But a couple of years ago, the street-level panels were repainted in intricate, Mexican (or Oaxacan) style colors: http://www.you-are-here.com/theatre/mayan.jpg [You Are Here] The architects were the incomparable Morgan, Walls & Clements. Julia Morgan is perhaps most notable for being William Randolph Hearst's personal architect, and is responsible for some of L.A.'s most wonderful buildings -- including Hearst's Herald-Examiner building: http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...3716C4214?v=hr [USC Digital Archive] |
I posted this photo of the Title Guarantee Building on the 'Park Fifth' thread.
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Here is a photo of the Herald-Examiner Building that Johnny Socko had mentioned earlier.
I didn't realize it was designed by Julia Morgan This is actually showing the back of the building (and it's still beautiful). http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1...aminerbldg.jpg usc archive I like the miniature 24hr. gas station. |
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Temple and Figueroa looking south in 1932.
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1...ndfigueroa.jpg usc digital http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/782...tjunctionb.jpg usc digital Above: Temple at the junction between Flower and Figueroa in the 1930s. What does this intersection look like today? |
Mystery photo from 1912.
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/552...2mysterybw.jpg ebay Does anyone have a clue? |
Does anyone have a photo of a wonderful old mansion that once stood at 900 West Adams? It was the Russell Waters house (hope I have that right) and
was used to great effect in the 1944 movie "Curse of the Cat People." |
Here's another mystery photo.
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3...licegarden.jpg usc archive Above: "Tropical Ice Garden with 12,000 seats in Westwood circa 1938". I had some information about this project but I can't seem to locate it. I just found the answer to my own question. http://www.squareone.org/PolarPalace/tropical.html |
Of all the buildings destroyed in Los Angeles this is one of the most sickening to have lost for me: :wah:
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MacArthur Park on July 12, 1954.
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http://berkeleyheritage.com/berkeley...//pfister.html (scroll 3/4 down) http://books.google.com/books?id=HFQ...street&f=false http://cdnc.ucr.edu/newsucr/cgi-bin/...ic+wonders-all |
oops....my bad.....wrong thread.
Thanks for the information GaylordWilshire. |
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