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nealberke Apr 8, 2024 3:42 AM

Old Dixie BBQ Menu on Worthpoint
 
[There's a couple of OLD DIXIE menus on WORTHPOINT.COM here:

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...mammy-menu-l-a

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-los-695394416

I'm sorry, I have no idea how to get the photos on Noirish Los Angeles.

Flyingwedge Apr 9, 2024 4:48 AM

1891 LA County Courthouse's outside elevator and its first operator
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JScott (Post 6977752)
By far the clearest/sharpest photograph of the early Court House that I have ever seen. I imagine it was taken the same day in 1899 as the Detroit Photographic Co. panorama photos, posted previously by MichaelRyerson.

http://otters.net/img/lanoir/thelosa...thouse1899.jpg
Denver Public Library Digital Collections (cropped, rotated, minor spot-fixes)

Hop over to the source page and play with the magnify function! You'll be amazed at just how intricate the stonework was in this great old edifice...


I was dismayed to learn recently that this and the other William Henry Jackson photos of Los Angeles, formerly at the Denver Public Library,
are no longer hosted there. Also gone are this 1887 panorama (CHS.J3927 and CHS.J3928) and this 1901 image (CHS.J3108) looking north
from 3rd and Broadway, among others.

My inquiry to the DPL about the photos received this answer: "Unfortunately, those photos belong to History Colorado and, after the move to
our new system, we are no longer hosting them. Hopefully, they will become available through the HC website." Maybe if enough of us contact
History Colorado we'll get to see the photos again!


UPDATE: I phoned History Colorado where a helpful representative directed me to this link . . . if you enter "Los Angeles" next to "All Title"
you will get the WH Jackson photos of Los Angeles, though unfortunately in low resolution only. The object ID numbers from the Denver Public
Library no longer seem to work . . . the 1887 panorama, which was CHS.J3927 and CHS.J3928, is now 86.200.7000 and 86.200.7001.


About the above courthouse photo . . . it appears the strip of grass above the excavation for the tunnel, which led to the elevator (the cab is
at the second floor), is still growing in. So the picture was likely taken in early, rather than late, 1899:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...nel_marked.jpg


The tunnel was built in the second half of 1898, around the same time as the outside elevator:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...d_elevator.jpg

May 24, 1898, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC via UC Riverside


The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors named Benjamin F. Talbot the first operator of the courthouse's outside elevator:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...tor_-_clip.jpg

December 8, 1898, Los Angeles Herald @ Newspapers.com


There were some problems with the new elevator's power and controlling that power. It was written that Talbot's most faithful friend
"could hardly predict success for him in his new position":

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...lbott_copy.jpg

December 14, 1898, Los Angeles Record @ Newspapers.com


A little over a year later, Talbot was killed when he fell to the bottom of the elevator shaft:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ath_1_of_2.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ath_2_of_2.jpg
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...postscript.jpg

February 18, 1900, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com


Read more about Benjamin Franklin Talbot here.

ethereal_reality Apr 11, 2024 9:16 PM

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Excellent observations, Flyingwedge. ..I'll contact the Denver Public Library as well.

Contact DPL Here. Easy Peasy. :)

I plan to do a couple of posts later today - so everyone check back.
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ethereal_reality Apr 11, 2024 9:36 PM

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Here's a one-of-a-kind snapshot that included the wooden steps leading down to the beach in Santa Monica. (1920s?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/xlM5wJ.jpg
eBay

We've probably already covered this but does anyone know when -and why- the steps were removied?


update:oops.

I see that the seller says this is Long Beach. If Long Beach had wooden stairs
I had forgotten all about them.
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odinthor Apr 12, 2024 2:10 AM

:previous:

e_r, I think the site of the steps is in the distance in this shot:

https://i.postimg.cc/28Rztq0s/LBBeach.jpg
odinthor collection

I believe the house in your picture on the top of the bluff of which we can see a corner above the hamburger stand is the smaller, more distant, structure in my pic. Maybe it's my imagination, but I think I can see a hint of the stairs in my pic--not the dark blotch at center, but a little farther.

Flyingwedge Apr 12, 2024 3:03 AM

:previous:

Is that the Myers/Bixby mansion on the bluff? If those are the same stairs, they were just west of the mansion, as seen in this c. 1929 aerial.
That's Bixby Park at the top of the photo. I've arrowed the foot of the stairs; the building to the left seems to match e_r's photo:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...S_-_marked.jpg

IN-G-1921-A @ Historical Society of Long Beach


Here is a closer look at the stairs:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...rs_closeup.jpg

odinthor Apr 12, 2024 3:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 10182983)
:previous:

Is that the Myers/Bixby mansion on the bluff? [...]

Yes!

https://i.postimg.cc/2jX8rkCw/LBMeyers.jpg
odinthor collection

https://i.postimg.cc/gkXc0CJP/LBMeyers2.jpg
odinthor collection

:tup:

ethereal_reality Apr 12, 2024 8:00 PM

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Thanks for your help odinthor & Flyingwedge. I appreciate it, guys.


Here's another intriguing Long Beach snapshot.

There appears to be a short wooden bridge and atop the hill a wall with a huge gate(?).

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/922/JKTcsc.jpg
eBay

This one is truly baffling, and I'm not talking about her choice of patterns. (I acutally like what she's wearing)



The back.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/bK5YR6.jpg

Look at all that writing that is covered up. I wonder if a scientist . . oh, nevermind.



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ethereal_reality Apr 12, 2024 11:16 PM

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Here's a faded color snapshot of Pasadena dated May 1972.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Ky16y4.jpg
eBay

I couldn't help but noticed the hotel sign on the roof of the building in the foreground. :previous: Does anyone know what hotel that is . . .or whether or not it's still there?



Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/L1boc1.png

It appears the name is below the word hotel on the sign but I can't make it.

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odinthor Apr 13, 2024 2:09 AM

e_r, it's the Hotel Livingstone, listed at 123 S. Los Robles, Pasadena.

Bristolian Apr 13, 2024 4:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10182806)
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Here's a one-of-a-kind snapshot that included the wooden steps leading down to the beach in Santa Monica. (1920s?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/xlM5wJ.jpg
eBay

We've probably already covered this but does anyone know when -and why- the steps were removied?


update:oops.

I see that the seller says this is Long Beach. If Long Beach had wooden stairs
I had forgotten all about them.
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e_r, This turns out to be very close to or perhaps the same location as another set of wooden stairs in Long Beach you posted in a group of eBay photographs back in January. The location of that photo was identified as what is now Bluff Place in Long Beach.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10113911)
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/9ojgyz.png

At first I thought it showed the construction of the road leading down to the beach in Santa Monica. (end of RT. 66, right?) But on closer inspection I believe that isn't the case.

Does it look familiar to anyone? :shrug: . . . obviously the best clue is the large apartment buildig on the left.


ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2024 9:01 PM


A mystery location.


Here are a couple of interesting snapshots that have shown up recently on eBay.


"1914 My Baby Girl Born Here Clara Barton Hospital Los Angeles CA"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ZGLEOx.jpg
eBay



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/5k5vCD.jpg
eBay


The hospital doesn't look familiar and neither does the surrounding area.

Where was this hospital located?


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ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2024 9:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 10183764)
e_r, it's the Hotel Livingstone, listed at 123 S. Los Robles, Pasadena.


Thanks, odinthor...And I see that it still has the same rooftop sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/hoLn4J.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/OghkQK.jpg

I wondered what that little 'loop' was at the top of the sign - now I see that it is the top of the elongated L in Livingstone but it only works if you're looking at it in the opposite direction.

Like here.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/gGcEVN.jpg
....................................................Ta Dah



More about the Livingstone at toplacondos
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HossC Apr 15, 2024 9:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10185315)

A mystery location.

Here are a couple of interesting snapshots that have shown up recently on eBay.

"1914 My Baby Girl Born Here Clara Barton Hospital Los Angeles CA"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ZGLEOx.jpg
eBay

The hospital doesn't look familiar and neither does the surrounding area.

Where was this hospital located?

According to this 1915 advert, the Clara Barton Hospital was at 447 S Olive Street. More info at link below the image.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...onHospital.jpg
www.oldhomesoflosangeles.org

ethereal_reality Apr 15, 2024 9:47 PM

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:previous: Excellent!..Thanks, Hoss. :)


Here's one more snapshot for today.


Seller's description:.1931 vintage PHOTO MEAT MARKET interior FIGUEROA + 43rd Los Angeles

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/1Yz0Ft.jpg
eBay

Note the sawdust on the floor. (to soak up the blood)


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Flyingwedge Apr 15, 2024 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 10185361)
According to this 1915 advert, the Clara Barton Hospital was at 447 S Olive Street. More info at link below the image.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...onHospital.jpg
www.oldhomesoflosangeles.org


It was previously known as the Deaconess Hospital. I don't know when it was built or when the name changed:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ive_-_1024.jpg

1904 LA City Directory @ fold3.com

riichkay Apr 16, 2024 3:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10185372)
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:previous: Excellent!..Thanks, Hoss. :)


Here's one more snapshot for today.


Seller's description:.1931 vintage PHOTO MEAT MARKET interior FIGUEROA + 43rd Los Angeles

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/1Yz0Ft.jpg
eBay

Note the sawdust on the floor. (to soak up the blood)


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This is likely Mr. Ernest J. Hamer Sr. in his butcher shop at 4313 S. Figueroa St, he would have been age 35 here....his parents, Adolph and Gertrude Hamer, operated a grocery business adjacent at 4311 S. Figueroa...the joint enterprise was known as Hamer & Son as per the 1927 street directory....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds



1929 CD....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds



Note that Ernest is shown in business with his wife Viola....Ernest married the former Viola Rees on 1/19/1914 (image courtesy FamilySearch)....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




...the family home was a few blocks away at 400 W. 47th St....1920 census....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



....the storefronts were constructed in 1922....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds



....Ernest Hamer Sr. died in 1967.....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



The buildings on Figueroa are gone, as is the family home, which was in the path of the 110 Fwy.

ethereal_reality Apr 16, 2024 3:27 AM

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:previous:

Excellent sleuthing, riichkay. .. Thank you.



re: Clara Barton Hospital
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 10185418)
It was previously known as the Deaconess Hospital, 447 South Olive St. I don't know when it was built or when the name changed.

It all gets a bit more confusing because there appears to have been a Deaconess Home on the corner of Sunset and Custer that was being turned into a hospital in 1907.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/3EaMPY.jpg
Los Angeles Herald - March 14, 1907




The Plot Thickens.

I just found this earlier article (from March 9, 1904) that places the Deaconess Home at the corner of Custer and Bellevue Ave.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/76sOZU.jpg
Los Angeles Herald

I wonder which corner is the correct one. . . .. Sunset Blvd. and Custer - or - Custer and Bellevue? :shrug:
(of course this is an entirely different issue from the Clara Barton / Deanconess Hospital downtown at 447 S. Olive Street)



Say Goodnight, Gracie.

odinthor Apr 16, 2024 4:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10185315)
A mystery location.


Here are a couple of interesting snapshots that have shown up recently on eBay.


"1914 My Baby Girl Born Here Clara Barton Hospital Los Angeles CA"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ZGLEOx.jpg
eBay



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/5k5vCD.jpg
eBay


The hospital doesn't look familiar and neither does the surrounding area.

Where was this hospital located?


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e_r, it was located here:

https://i.postimg.cc/PqRJTmWy/Oliv5NW.jpg
odinthor collection

That's the Auditorium at right, and the Auditorium Hotel at left.

Noir_Noir Apr 16, 2024 4:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 10185600)
This is likely Mr. Ernest J. Hamer Sr. in his butcher shop at 4313 S. Figueroa St, he would have been age 35 here....his parents, Adolph and Gertrude Hamer, operated a grocery business adjacent at 4311 S. Figueroa...the joint enterprise was known as Hamer & Son as per the 1927 street directory....

I think you're spot on riichkay.

Here's the father Adolph in 1906 when he had a restaurant on S. Main St.


https://i.imgur.com/Pse596e.jpeg
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...6/adolph_hamer


https://i.imgur.com/SeMXZps.jpeg


Spot Ernest's distinctive arched eyebrow just like his Da. :)




In 1920 Ernest had an idea for wrapping ice cream cones in a sanitary manner.


https://i.imgur.com/Qlnrpy6.jpeg
patents.google.com



Adolph Hamer was one of the good guys.


https://i.imgur.com/9twSFDO.jpeg
archive.org - Orphan Train Riders

rick m Apr 16, 2024 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10185608)
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:previous:

Excellent sleuthing, riichkay. .. Thank you.



re: Clara Barton Hospital


It all gets a bit more confusing because there appears to have been a Deaconess Home on the corner of Sunset and Custer that was being turned into a hospital in 1907.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/3EaMPY.jpg
Los Angeles Herald - March 14, 1907




The Plot Thickens.

I just found this earlier article (from March 9, 1904) that places the Deaconess Home at the corner of Custer and Bellevue Ave.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/76sOZU.jpg
Los Angeles Herald

I wonder which corner is the correct one. . . .. Sunset Blvd. and Custer - or - Custer and Bellevue? :shrug:
(of course this is an entirely different issue from the Clara Barton / Deanconess Hospital downtown at 447 S. Olive Street)



Say Goodnight, Gracie.

A similar place for homeless young women was opened on Clay Street in same years-- per a notice in L.A. Times pages

Noir_Noir Apr 17, 2024 5:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10185608)

It all gets a bit more confusing because there appears to have been a Deaconess Home on the corner of Sunset and Custer that was being turned into a hospital in 1907.


I just found this earlier article (from March 9, 1904) that places the Deaconess Home at the corner of Custer and Bellevue Ave.


I wonder which corner is the correct one. . . .. Sunset Blvd. and Custer - or - Custer and Bellevue? :shrug:



The Deaconess Home/Hospital was at the corner of Sunset and Custer.


https://i.imgur.com/ytO1m7P.jpeg
loc.gov - Sanborn Fire Insurance Map from Los Angeles 1906



A picture from back in the thread.



ethereal_reality Apr 17, 2024 7:20 PM

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Excellent! Thanks Noir Noir.



Here's a curious photograph I just saw on eBay.

"VINTAGE PHOTOGRAPH SIGNS MAGNETIC HILL LONG BEACH LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PHOTO"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RXfhMJ.jpg
eBay

So is this one of those 'Magnetic Hills' that supposedly defies gravity or just a normal street? (on a hill)


I vaguely recall watching a video of a so called 'magnetic hill' in one of the cemeteries in Los Angeles. ..Does this sound familiar to anyone or am I hallucinating? :shrug:






UPDATE:

I decided to include a close-up of the buildings at the bottom of the hill.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/cofAOc.jpg
DETAIL


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ethereal_reality Apr 17, 2024 8:10 PM

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Thanks for sharing this pic. of the Clara Barton Hospital, odinthor.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/xvVtxl.jpg
ODINTHOR COLLECTION


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Mackerm Apr 19, 2024 5:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 10186967)
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Here's a curious photograph I just saw on eBay.

"VINTAGE PHOTOGRAPH SIGNS MAGNETIC HILL LONG BEACH LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PHOTO"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RXfhMJ.jpg
eBay

So is this one of those 'Magnetic Hills' that supposedly defies gravity or just a normal street? (on a hill)


I vaguely recall watching a video of a so called 'magnetic hill' in one of the cemeteries in Los Angeles. ..Does this sound familiar to anyone or am I hallucinating? :shrug:
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https://i.postimg.cc/K8dBBznz/content.jpg

Google Books

This piece does not name the the street, but it matches another description which says it is St. Ives Dr. The straight stretch between Doheny Dr. and the sharp left turn is about 200 feet, like the description says. I can't match any buildings, though.

Another description of Hollywood's Magnetic Hill, which includes a transcription of the sign being read by Sherlock in the above graphic.

Martin Pal Apr 19, 2024 7:12 PM

These two aerial photos were posted in 2014 by HossC, HERE.

1948
The intersection of Crescent Heights Blvd. and Fountain Ave. showing the Dustin Farnum (sometimes written as Farnham) house on the southeast corner, which was the Hollywood Guild and Canteen for a period of years in the '40s.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...escent1948.jpg

The 1952 aerial was blurry, so HossC posted this 1972 aerial showing the same replacement buildings that were in the 1952 aerial.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...escent1972.jpg

There is a scene in the film A Star is Born, using this apartment building as a location where Judy Garland lives, the Oleander Arms. I posted a night time screencap of that in 2014 as well.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AzHseRkhVp...bYk/s640/1.JPG

I had only ever heard of that apartment building being called the Oleander Arms, so I thought, perhaps, that was the actual name of the place. Perhaps not.

In a recent post on J.H. Graham's informative site, HERE, it's noted that the Hollywood Guild Canteen had an auction of its furnishings on 10/26/48 and officially closed on October 27. The new owner was W.E. Clark and he had that whole area demolished almost immediately. He developed the property with a 64-unit colonial-style apartment complex known as the Greenbriar Apartments. It opened on August 29, 1949. [Less than a year later!]

https://jhgraham.com/wp-content/uplo...949_.jpg?w=815J.H.Graham/WWII

This is the first I've heard of the name "Greenbriar Apartments." Searches don't offer much further information about that place or reveal any other photos, nor indicate the name may have been changed for the film a few years later.

Also: At one point I mentioned on NLA that, unless I'm utterly confused, I remember TV news back in 1983 when they'd restored the A Star is Born film and having new showings of it, that there was a successful effort to actually save/move this apartment building, or at least a part of it, that was used in the film. I believe there was footage of them moving it. In 1985 the new apartment complex built there opened, seen in the aerial below from HossC from the same link at the start, above.

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...rescentNow.jpg

Back when making these original posts about the location I'd tried searching for ANY information to verify these memories and came up with nothing about it anywhere. :shrug:

Maybe, as Patsy Cline sang, "I'm :koko:"

ethereal_reality Apr 19, 2024 11:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 10188178)
This piece
does not name the the street, but it matches another description which says it is St. Ives Dr. The straight stretch between Doheny Dr. and the sharp left turn is about 200 feet, like the description says.
I can't match any buildings, though.

:previous: Thanks so much for the information and links about Magnetic Hills, Mackerm.

I might have solved one of the discrepancies in the LaDailyMirror article below.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/6PuKIz.jpg
Max Weinstock at ladailymirror


Note at the end where the author states the mystery deepens because St. Ives is east of Doheny, not west. (so the whole part about it being regraded and 'demagnetized' is wrong)


I believe the place they should be talking about is Magnetic Terrace which branches (west) off of N. Doheny at the very end of Thrush Way...Doheny Dr. is in the upper right corner. (directly below)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/q9g4qu.jpg


To get your bearings.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/tHmhmS.jpg


As you can see I've placed an arrow where Doheny starts to make its trek up into the hills. I've also circled St. Ives Dr. .. Magnetic Terrace is at upper right just above the 'Bird Streets'.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/uJsTTw.jpg



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/jEn8QL.jpg

It's hard to tell but that car is slowly inching its way uphill. ;) (I'm kidding)

Would anyone like to drive up there and see if you experience the anomoly?
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Mackerm Apr 20, 2024 9:21 PM

:previous:
https://i.postimg.cc/MGxTrtFH/Screen...420-140758.png
https://i.postimg.cc/CxJ1XbT4/Screen...420-140320.png
LAPL Amusement Map of Los Angeles County, 1929

Some history articles referred to this map, which does indicate Villa Dr. (Now St. Ives Dr., which goes all the way to Doheny.) But as I say, I'm less sure that it is the site where the eBay photo was taken.

Now excuse me while I look up Russian Eagle.

Martin Pal Apr 21, 2024 6:15 PM

^^^

What does it say, on the map, below-to the right, of Russian Eagle? Sunset Riding?
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According to this article on L.A. Curbed (Link HERE) titled The Early History of the Sunset Strip:

Sunset Plaza was soon occupied by real estate developers, insurance offices, and a gift shop owned by a Romanian art dealer named Michael Tocaxe. Its most famous tenant was the dimly lit Russian Eagle Café, a restaurant and reputed speakeasy at 8648 Sunset owned by General Theodore Lodijensky, a former Russian Imperial Army officer and movie bit player.

Called a “haunt of motion-picture stars” by the Los Angeles Times, the café was frequented by silent stars including Rudolph Valentino, John Barrymore, Alla Nazimova, and Ramon Novarro. According to Sheila Weller, author of Dancing at Ciro’s, it was rumored that opium was smoked in the exclusive back room.

The evening of June 7, 1928 was a typical star-studded night at the Russian Eagle. Boxer Jack Dempsey and his movie-star wife Estelle Taylor had just left. Though reports vary, it seems Charlie Chaplin, Gloria Swanson’s husband Marquis de la Falaise, director Eddie Sutherland, actress Lili Damita, and movie-star Colleen Moore were all still on the premises when tenants noticed oil soaking through the ceiling.

Soon the smell of gas filled the Russian Eagle. A fire broke out. Its county address was this time a nuisance, as it took forever for the fire department to arrive. Chaplin and Sutherland, holding a hose, helped battle the blaze.

Minutes later, with the blaze under control, Lodijensky and fire officials went to the basement to check the gas meter. They were met by a massive explosion that threw them to the ground and destroyed the Russian Eagle.

Gossip about who had started the fire spread swiftly thorough out LA’s café society. Lodijensky’s cousin told the Los Angeles Times he believed “the explosion was the work of rival restaurant owners or members of a liquor ring.”

But it was quickly determined Tocaxe, the Romanian gift shop owner with an imperfect grasp of the English language, was the main culprit. The public was titillated, and the Los Angeles Times reported on the arson trial daily.

When Tocaxe took the stand in his defense, he claimed the fire and subsequent explosion had been heaven sent. “It was an act of God,” he claimed according to the Los Angeles Times. “I frequently burned candles to the Virgin and through this form of worship the hanging on the wall caught fire and started the disaster.”

The jury was out for only 20 minutes before convicting Tocaxe of arson.

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I saw this ad for the place on a website titled: From Captains to Movie General.
The article on the page is written all in Russian. Link HERE.

https://jhgraham.com/wp-content/uplo...eagle-1935.jpg

The Curbed article has the address as 8648 Sunset Blvd. and the ad has it listed at 8428 Sunset Blvd. The 8428 address is across the street from the Ciro's location, the 8648 address is around the Sunset Plaza area.

Martin Turnbull's website indicates that after the fire the place relocated to the Plaza Hotel in Hollywood as The Russian Eagle Cafe and Gardens and closed in 1935. It was followed in that location by the Cinnabar and then Clara Bow's IT Café.

JeffDiego Apr 21, 2024 6:29 PM

Hollywood Country Club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mackerm (Post 10189260)
:previous:
https://i.postimg.cc/MGxTrtFH/Screen...420-140758.png
https://i.postimg.cc/CxJ1XbT4/Screen...420-140320.png
LAPL Amusement Map of Los Angeles County, 1929

Some history articles referred to this map, which does indicate Villa Dr. (Now St. Ives Dr., which goes all the way to Doheny.) But as I say, I'm less sure that it is the site where the eBay photo was taken.

Now excuse me while I look up Russian Eagle.

Mackerm, just as you are interested in discovering what the heck "The Russian Eagle" was (me too), your 1929 map has me intrigued by "the Hollywood Country Club," AKA "Hollywood Hills Country Club."
There is a very interesting article on the faded memory & mystery of the supposed country club, which states that "Other than a street called Fairview Drive which descends down to Ventura Boulevard near Jerry's Deli, not a single trace of the once expansive Country Club exists. Over the years, Harvard Westlake (school) demolished all traces including the club house, at least three residences, and the riding stables.
https://employeelawca.com/vintagela/...lscountryclub/

The article's author states that he couldn't find a single photograph of any element of the Hollywood Country Club - other than the picture of a tiny storybook cottage/office at the entrance, alongside a prominent sign - and that it was apparently one of many schemes by L.A. real-estate promoters and developers, some of whose names will be familiar to NLA readers.

Flyingwedge Apr 21, 2024 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 10189535)

Sunset Plaza was soon occupied by real estate developers, insurance offices, and a gift shop owned by a Romanian art dealer named Michael Tocaxe. Its most famous tenant was the dimly lit Russian Eagle Café, a restaurant and reputed speakeasy at 8648 Sunset owned by General Theodore Lodijensky, a former Russian Imperial Army officer and movie bit player.

Called a “haunt of motion-picture stars” by the Los Angeles Times, the café was frequented by silent stars including Rudolph Valentino, John Barrymore, Alla Nazimova, and Ramon Novarro. According to Sheila Weller, author of Dancing at Ciro’s, it was rumored that opium was smoked in the exclusive back room.

The evening of June 7, 1928 was a typical star-studded night at the Russian Eagle. Boxer Jack Dempsey and his movie-star wife Estelle Taylor had just left. Though reports vary, it seems Charlie Chaplin, Gloria Swanson’s husband Marquis de la Falaise, director Eddie Sutherland, actress Lili Damita, and movie-star Colleen Moore were all still on the premises when tenants noticed oil soaking through the ceiling.

Soon the smell of gas filled the Russian Eagle. A fire broke out. Its county address was this time a nuisance, as it took forever for the fire department to arrive. Chaplin and Sutherland, holding a hose, helped battle the blaze.

Minutes later, with the blaze under control, Lodijensky and fire officials went to the basement to check the gas meter. They were met by a massive explosion that threw them to the ground and destroyed the Russian Eagle.

Gossip about who had started the fire spread swiftly thorough out LA’s café society. Lodijensky’s cousin told the Los Angeles Times he believed “the explosion was the work of rival restaurant owners or members of a liquor ring.”

But it was quickly determined Tocaxe, the Romanian gift shop owner with an imperfect grasp of the English language, was the main culprit. The public was titillated, and the Los Angeles Times reported on the arson trial daily.

When Tocaxe took the stand in his defense, he claimed the fire and subsequent explosion had been heaven sent. “It was an act of God,” he claimed according to the Los Angeles Times. “I frequently burned candles to the Virgin and through this form of worship the hanging on the wall caught fire and started the disaster.”

The jury was out for only 20 minutes before convicting Tocaxe of arson.

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I saw this ad for the place on a website titled: From Captains to Movie General.
The article on the page is written all in Russian. Link HERE.

https://jhgraham.com/wp-content/uplo...eagle-1935.jpg

The Curbed article has the address as 8648 Sunset Blvd. and the ad has it listed at 8428 Sunset Blvd. The 8428 address is across the street from the Ciro's location, the 8648 address is around the Sunset Plaza area.

Martin Turnbull's website indicates that after the fire the place relocated to the Plaza Hotel in Hollywood as The Russian Eagle Cafe and Gardens and closed in 1935. It was followed in that location by the Cinnabar and then Clara Bow's IT Café.


Back in 2015 e_r posted a photo of the Russian Eagle after the fire and explosion:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7063657)
"Terrific blast nearly kills scores of screen stars.!" -Hollywood Cal.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/907/ddA3l2.jpg
eBay

"Charles Chaplin, Colleen Moore and a score of other Hollywood's greatest stars narrowly escaped death when an explosion completely wrecked the American-Russian Eagle Cafe here. Eight persons were injured, two probably fatally. The stars were dining when an incendiary fire was discovered and warnings shouted. Soon after the diners rushed out, the building was completely wrecked by a terrific detonation."
06/21/1928.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/HEDMzp.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1928-Hollywo...-/271705076419


Here's an article about a later incarnation of the Russian Eagle:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...fe_reopens.jpg

July 5, 1933, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LA Public Library


There are a couple other posts about Lodijensky and the Russian Eagle on NLA page 1458.

Martin Pal Apr 22, 2024 6:12 PM

:previous:

Thanks for posting that Flyingwedge. Didn't occur to me to search NLA first as one normally would. That great photo E_R originally posted doesn't come up anywhere in online searches for this place. A great find nearly a decade ago, E_R!

ethereal_reality Apr 22, 2024 9:08 PM

:previous:

If it makes you feel any better, Martin Pal, I had forgotten all about the old Russian Eagle explosion photograph... I'm just grateful that Flyingwedge remembered it.

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ethereal_reality Apr 22, 2024 9:28 PM

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I know that we've seen 'iceberg' themed ice cream shops, dance halls (I think) and ice skating rinks (two, if I remember correctly) - one in Westwood and one in East Hollywood.
but have we seen an 'iceberg' themed service/gas station? :shrug:

Seller's description:..."PHOTOGRAPH ICEBERG GAS STATION ROADSIDE ATTRACTION LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PHOTO"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/lL3gAP.jpg
Just listed on eBay

Perhaps we have seen it & I simply forgot about it but I doubt it.


ethereal_reality Apr 23, 2024 3:42 AM

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Here's an extremely rare view of the interior the the old Zulu Hut.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/RZjgdY.jpg
eBay..Seller asking $100.00.

Ina Moore appears to have worked as a hostess. (per the writing)

Can anyone dicipher what's written in the top right corner? I believe it's an address or location.


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ProphetM Apr 23, 2024 5:49 AM

I believe that says "E. Broad East of Washington."

ethereal_reality Apr 24, 2024 8:46 PM

:previous:

Thanks Prophet.

I was under the impression the Zulu Hut was located in Hollywood (proper) but I could only find it listed somewhere in North Hollywood.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/Ef8Avi.jpg
LAPL / It's a 'Numerical Telephone Directory' / I haven't been able to find thename of the street.

:shrug:

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ProphetM Apr 24, 2024 11:25 PM

Searching through NewspaperArchive.com I find Zulu Hut described in a 1926 story in the Oxnard Daily Courier, about it being robbed by two gunmen.
"near Hollywood" and
"a cafe on Ventura Blvd." and
"located on the south side of the state highway near the Hollywood Country Club"
In other articles about the robbery, actor Raymond McKee was said to be the owner.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw...-no?authuser=0

Another article describes a fire that destroyed the establishment overnight on March 1-2, 1931, then described as *formerly* owned by Raymond McKee. No more specific address was given, however. I got a circa 1928 aerial from the UCSB archive but nothing in particular stood out along the south side of Ventura Blvd near the country club that appeared to be a business with a significant parking, as one would assume for a cafe/nightclub that stayed open past midnight. The only possible candidate I spotted was a corner building with just a bit of cleared lot, at what is now 13366-13368 Ventura Blvd.

Noir_Noir Apr 24, 2024 11:47 PM

:previous:

The Zulu Hut was located at 11100 Ventura Blvd.


A post from almost ten years ago -




More Zulu Hut stuff -

homesteadmuseum.blog - Zulu Hut Studio City

ProphetM Apr 25, 2024 12:02 AM

Edit - Noir Noir beat me to the link and posted while I was still looking.

A quite good accounting of this place which operated for scarcely more than 6 years, late November 1924 to March 2, 1931.

11100 Ventura Blvd., now the location of the Fox and Hounds Pub, is quite some distance from the Hollywood Country Club despite the earlier description, and so not even within the aerial photo I had downloaded before.

Noir_Noir Apr 25, 2024 1:59 AM

Russian Eagle Cafe - 8648 Sunset Blvd.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 10189578)
Back in 2015 e_r posted a photo of the Russian Eagle after the fire and explosion:


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7063657)
"Terrific blast nearly kills scores of screen stars.!" -Hollywood Cal.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/907/ddA3l2.jpg
eBay

"Charles Chaplin, Colleen Moore and a score of other Hollywood's greatest stars narrowly escaped death when an explosion completely wrecked the American-Russian Eagle Cafe here. Eight persons were injured, two probably fatally. The stars were dining when an incendiary fire was discovered and warnings shouted. Soon after the diners rushed out, the building was completely wrecked by a terrific detonation."
06/21/1928.



This is 8640-48 Sunset Blvd. that housed the Russian Eagle Cafe, with roof intact, right after it was built in 1924.


https://i.imgur.com/YNSDeIj.jpeg


It was one of the four original buildings developed by Francis Montgomery that was the initial phase of Sunset Plaza.


The above detail comes from this wider view of that first phase.


https://i.imgur.com/NUh93Rg.jpeg
hollywoodphotographs.com


Lined up here in a 1927 aerial.


https://i.imgur.com/LqTrI5r.jpeg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


Did the 1928 fire and blast prompt an immediate reconfiguration of the middle two buildings into a bigger single one?

Or did that came later in the 1930s as seen here in 1938? :shrug:


https://i.imgur.com/M8UpjqV.jpeg
hollywoodphotographs.com

ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2024 2:48 AM

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re: Zulu Hut
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/gkouzz.jpg

Now I remember!

Zulu Hut was located near 'Monkey Island', right?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/cVpq41.jpg

1,000 monkeys! I forgot there were so many of them. :stunned:

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Godzilla Apr 25, 2024 12:49 PM

More details. :previous:





https://homesteadmuseum.blog/2019/11...november-1925/
https://i0.wp.com/homesteadmuseum.bl...30%2C405&ssl=1
https://i0.wp.com/homesteadmuseum.bl...30%2C414&ssl=1

Martin Pal Apr 25, 2024 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 10192307)
This is 8640-48 Sunset Blvd. that housed the Russian Eagle Cafe, with roof intact, right after it was built in 1924. Did the 1928 fire and blast prompt an immediate reconfiguration of the middle two buildings into a bigger single one?

Or did that come later in the 1930s as seen here in 1938? :shrug:
_______________________________________________________________


Noir_Noir, especially in less populated times I'm not averse to the idea that addresses of the exact same space can vary over some decades,
but how do we account for the two different addresses for the Russian Eagle?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 10189535)
[...]
I saw this ad for the place on a website titled: From Captains to Movie General.
The article on the page is written all in Russian. Link HERE.

https://jhgraham.com/wp-content/uplo...eagle-1935.jpg

The Curbed article has the address as 8648 Sunset Blvd. and the ad has it listed at 8428 Sunset Blvd. The 8428 Sunset Blvd. address is across the street from the Ciro's location, the 8648 address is around the Sunset Plaza area.
[...]
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Since it's in an ad and not an article, wouldn't that be assumed to be an accurate address? There isn't any date I can find for this ad, is it possible after the explosion it moved east down the street before moving again to Hollywood?
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I've also now located this ad on J.H. Graham's website.

ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2024 10:10 PM

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To make all this even more confusing.

Besides the Zulu Hut there was also the Hula Hut located at 8204 Beverly Boulevard during the same time period.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/nask4c.jpg
LAPL via jhgraham

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/VnEMB6.jpg
jhgraham


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ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2024 10:24 PM

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AND the Hawaiian Hut at 7210 Beverly Boulevard.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/WTl6d9.jpg
jhgraham


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/THCLpm.jpg
jhgraham



Meanwhile somewhere in the San Fernando Valley.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/861/IGaPe7.gif
medium


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Noir_Noir Apr 26, 2024 1:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 10192859)
Noir_Noir, especially in less populated times I'm not averse to the idea that addresses of the exact same space can vary over some decades,
but how do we account for the two different addresses for the Russian Eagle?


Since it's in an ad and not an article, wouldn't that be assumed to be an accurate address? There isn't any date I can find for this ad, is it possible after the explosion it moved east down the street before moving again to Hollywood?
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I've also now located this ad on J.H. Graham's website.


First mentions of the Russian Eagle Cafe's place it at 8648 Sunset Blvd. I don't know how long it was there before the fire and explosion in June of 1928.


The Russian Eagle apparently became the Double Eagle (and/or the Double-Headed Russian Eagle) for some years after the Big Bang of 28.


https://i.imgur.com/E5KUTSI.jpeg
archive.org - Motion Picture (Feb-Jul 1929)

https://i.imgur.com/Q6aM0mn.jpg
archive.org - Screenland (June 1930)


Sunset and Doheny is mentioned as the location for one of these versions.

Also a widening of Sunset would necessitate a move to avoid half the cafe disappearing.


In 1933 the Russian Eagle reappears as an alfresco dining experience in a date palm grove to the rear of the Hollywood Plaza Hotel at 1633–37 N. Vine St.

https://i.imgur.com/ErYykcE.jpeg
paradiseleased.wordpress.com


https://i.imgur.com/u5aLDZw.jpeg
cdnc.ucr.edu - The Jewish News of Northern California, 31 May 1935


On Halloween 1935 the doors were opened on the Russian Eagle Supper Club at the new and final location of 8428 Sunset Blvd.


https://i.imgur.com/ZfFGZcS.jpeg
archive.org - Los Angeles Times 1935-10-31


It's tenure there was brief enough and it was gone sometime in late summer of 1936.

Major General Theodore A. Lodijensky, whose baby it was, had had enough and left Hollywood to head back east.


https://i.imgur.com/aZSht9m.jpeg
cdnc.ucr.edu - Daily News (Los Angeles), 7 March 1947

ethereal_reality Apr 27, 2024 2:03 AM

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About a month or so ago on eBay there were a bunch of snapshots (being sold separately) of famous actors and actresses in various locations around Los Angeles.

I saved some of them to a file.


#1

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/922/b2Dejv.jpg

Lana Turner in front of an abstract mural, somewhere.



#2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/922/bBQRzW.jpg

Evelyn Keyes, somewhere.






#3

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/EkYjrt.jpg

Judy Garland and the photographer. (proto-selfie?)



A few more coming soon. :)

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ethereal_reality Apr 27, 2024 2:10 AM

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As promised.


#4

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/922/TFFSsc.jpg

I don't think either of those women are Lupe Velez. Nice of them to trespass on Lupe's lawn.


A closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/rq6l1T.jpg

Nope, not Lupe. . Does anyone know Lupe's address in 1941?






#5

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/qkcBuZ.jpg

John Wayne driving a car load of men out of a parking lot.(I think)..If we could read that blade sign down the street we might be able to figure out the location.

Just for fun here's a closer look at the blade sign.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/fhFcxw.jpg




#6

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/D0SOPt.jpg

Martha Scott (and a mutant dog), somewhere.



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riichkay Apr 27, 2024 8:05 AM

Re: Lupe Velez home in 1941 was 732 N. Rodeo Dr....1940 census....


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



Following images/text courtesy of The Huntington Library & The Beverly Hills Historical Society....

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


This is the final home of actress Lupe Vélez, nicknamed The Mexican Spitfire, and known for a succession of stormy, high-profile romances. She lived in this house with her husband, Tarzan actor and Olympian Johnny Weissmuller. Previously, she lived next door with actor Gary Cooper. When Cooper broke off their tempestuous relationship, it’s said Vélez followed him to the train station and fired a pistol at him. She died in this house by her own hand, pregnant and unmarried, on December 13, 1944.


https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds




https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds


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