In 5 years NYC skyline will be absolutely incredible !!!!
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Thanks for starting this thread and the great pics!
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Dayumn! Let's hope these approved proposals actually get built!
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I like the Drake Hotel design a lot, looks like a simple tube-like tower. Cool to see NYC possibly get a non-office supertall on par with certain Far-East towers that are all residential!
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I wouldn't exactly say that 225 w57 is approved because no plans have been submitted to be approved. Not to say that approval should be a big deal since it will be an as of right tower.
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^^ you're right, as far as I know there haven't been any DOB filings... I'll change it to proposed.
possible new render for the Manhattan West Towers: http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/138661509/large.jpg note that the final height remains uncertain. other news: 3WTC is now 1080' tall, making it the 3rd tallest in New York (after ESB and BofA). |
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imo, if a major building goes up that close to it, it should be just short of the 86th floor(ESB) so that, at least, the mooring mast & antenna are still that vicinity's highest point. The ESB should continue to dominate its neighborhood. |
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Personally, I think that if they build a square tower that tall, it should have a much larger foot print and floor area. Trump World Tower, by the UN, has a larger foot print and it's still a bit on the extreme side. And TWT is still well over 400' shy of this Drake. |
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No, the ESB had it's time. NY needs to move forward; new (supertall) towers will rise near the ESB, whether we like it or not. |
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Agreed! The ESB is great and all but it shouldn't stop taller buildings from rising. We don't want it to be another Philadelphia city hall... |
ESB will always be the king skyscraper and the Chrysler the most beautiful (in my opinion).
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New render of 440 Park (the correct adress is actually 432 Park Avenue):
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/138975123/original.jpg http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj |
^I am amazed that this was approved, given proximity to central park and the trials experienced by the Tour Verre (The latter is in my view, either the coolest rendering in history or quite simply the best looking skyscraper of the past 50 years [along with Bank of China in HK)
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^^ Yeah, Tower Verre certainly is a marvel. Shame it had a height reduction whereas this monster will likely be 400m tall. Seems to me there's no such thing as justice in the skyscraper world. :|
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New renders for the Hudson Yards!
Shorter tower ~ 996ft, construction to begin 3rd quarter 2012 Taller tower: ~ 1278ft, construction to begin 4th quarter 2012 http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/139343751/original.jpg http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/...d4eb3252_b.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/139327901/original.jpg |
It's great to see that we are finally getting a tower taller than ESB other than the WTC!!:banana::banana:
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Yeah I am, and if the design is right, and if there is a demand then by all means build a 2,000 foot hypertall. Also yeah I hope something like that happens. Some sort of signature building for the Hudson Yards.
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Absolutly !!!!!!! I agree with you !!!!!!
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1,000 footers:
1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction 2. 432 Park Avenue, 1420ft (432,8m), Site Preparation (height not final; min: 1380ft / max: 1700ft) 3. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction 4. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1292ft (393,8m), Approved 5. Empire State Building, 1250ft (381m), Completed [1,454ft (443,2m) when counting the spire] 6. 15 Penn PLaza, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved 7. One Manhattan West, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved 8. Bank of America Tower, 1200ft (365,8m), Completed 9. 225 West 57th Street, 1200ft+ (365,8m+), Proposed 10. Three World Trade Center, 1155ft (352m), Under Construction 11. Conde Nast Building, 1118ft (340,7m), Completed [when counting the spire] 12. The Girasole, 1060ft (323,1m), Approved 13. Tower Verre, 1050ft (320m), Approved 14. Chrysler Building, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed 15. New York Times Tower, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed 16. Hudson Yards South Tower, 1017ft (310m), Site Preparation 17. One57, 1003ft (305,7m), Under Construction 900 footers: 1. Four World Trade Center, 977ft (297,8m), Under Construction 2. American International Building, 952ft (290,2m), Completed 3. Bloomberg Tower, 941ft (286,6m), Completed [when counting the spire] 4. One Madison Avenue, 937ft (285,6m), Proposed 5. Two Manhattan West, 935ft (285m), Approved 6. 40 Wall Street, 927ft (282,6m), Completed 7. Citigroup Center, 915ft (278,9m), Completed 8. 30 Park Place, 912ft (278m), Under Construction (currently on hold) 800 footers: 1. Beekman Tower, 891ft (271,6m), Completed 2. Trump World Tower, 861ft (262,4m), Completed 3. Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower, 856ft (261m), Approved 4. GE Building, 850ft (259,1m), Completed 5. 56 Leonard Street, 821ft (250,2m), Under Construction (currently on hold) 6. Cityspire Center, 814ft (248,1m), Completed 7. One Chase Manhattan Plaza, 813ft (247,8m), Completed 8. Met Life Building, 808ft (246,3m), Completed 9. Hudson Yard Residential Tower, 800ft+ (243,8m+) 700 footers: 1. Woolworth Building, 792ft (241m), Completed 2. 1 Worldwide Plaza, 778ft (237m), Completed 3. Carnegie Hall Tower, 757ft (231m), Completed 4. 383 Madison Avenue, 755ft (230m), Completed 5. 1715 Broadway, 753ft (230m), Under Construction 6. AXA Center, 752ft (229m), Completed 7. One Penn Plaza, 750ft (229m), Completed 8. 1251 Avenue of the Americas , 750ft (229m), Completed 9. Time Warner Center North Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed 10. Time Warner Center South Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed 11. Goldman Sachs Headquarters, 749ft (228m), Completed 12. 60 Wall Street, 745ft (227m), Completed 13. One Astor Plaza, 745ft (227m), Completed 14. 1 Liberty Plaza, 743ft (226m), Completed 15. 20 Exchange Place, 741ft (226m), Completed 16. 7 World Trade Center, 741ft (226m), Completed 17. Three World Financial Center, 739ft (225m), Completed 18. Bertelsmann Building, 733ft (223m), Completed 19. Times Square Tower, 726ft (221m), Completed 20. Metropolitan Tower, 716ft (218m), Completed 21. 250 East 57th Street, 715ft (218m), Under Construction 22. 50 West Street, 714ft (218m), Under Construction (currently on hold) 23. 610 Lexington Avenue, 712ft (217m), Under Construction (currently on hold) 24. Nobu Hotel and Residences, 709ft (216m), Approved 25. JPMorganChase Tower, 707ft (216m), Completed 26. General Motors Building, 705ft (215m), Completed 27. Metropolitan Life Tower, 700ft (213m), Completed 28. 5 World Trade Center, 700ft+ (213m+), Approved 600 footers: 1. 500 Fifth Avenue, 697ft (212m), Completed 2. 107 West 57th Street, 697ft (212m), Proposed 3. Americas Tower, 692ft (211m), Completed 4. Solow Building, 689ft (210m), Completed 5. HSBC Bank Building, 688ft (210m), Completed 6. 55 Water Street, 687ft (209m), Completed 7. 277 Park Avenue, 687ft (209m), Completed 8. 1585 Broadway, 685ft (209m), Completed 9. Random House Tower, 684ft (208m), Completed 10. Four Seasons Hotel, 682ft (208m), Completed 11. McGraw-Hill Building, 674ft (205m), Completed 12. Lincoln Building, 673ft (205m), Completed 13. Citicorp Building, 673ft (205m), Completed 14. Barclay Tower, 673ft (205m), Completed 15. Paramount Plaza, 670ft (204m), Completed 16. 440 West 42nd Street, 669ft (204m), Completed 17. Trump Tower, 664ft (202m), Completed In total: 56 buildings 500 footers: 120 buildings+ --> New York has about 240 buildings over 500ft. This city rulez.:cool: |
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Outstanding summary. Right on NYC |
List edited. I added a couple of 600 footers (till 657ft = 200m).
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Very interesting thread ! Keep up your excellent work.
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Model for 432 Park Ave:
http://elitedaily.com/elite/ http://cdn.elitedaily.com/elite/wp-c...lite_daily.jpg |
more accurate citation-http://elitedaily.com/elite/2011/yorks-super-building/
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I love 432 park ave.!
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^^ Not much. A couple of 500 and 600 footers are proposed and also some are U/C.
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A great thread. Thanks for the useful info!
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I too hope this building gets built, and the full height is attained. I am happy that 1WTC will soon be finished, but New York needs a 2,000 foot skyscraper. The Chinese and Arabs are building huge skyscrapers, the Burj Dubai is over 2,000 feet, hello!! While in the 1970s any building over 1,000 feet was considered great, and still is to a point, that is no longer the measuring stick. It is now 2,000 feet and beyond. New York needs to get back into the skyscraper game wholeheartedly. We need to stop spitting out designs and then cringing at the last minute and winding their heights back down...This only makes for more generic, boring-looking bland buildings. Any city can have 500-1,000 foot buildings, but this is New York for pete's sake. I don't mean have them all over the city, just having one great 2,000 footer would put New York back on the cutting edge and map of skyscraper buildings globally..I am not a huge fan of the Internationalist boxy styling, but I am sure there are creative people out there who could design a building with elements of the past and present, while making it safe and environmentally efficient too. All this being said, with things the way they are, and nothing ever seeming to get done in the way of big projects, I would guess that 1WTC (once completed) will likely be the tallest building in New York for many many years to come..
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Give it time, and a better economy and I wouldn't be surprised if proposals higher than the WTC, 432 and Sears emerge. Dubai nearly collapsed because of the building bubble, there were a few 1600 footers cancelled because of it there. |
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Most Americans don't want mass transit. That is why they elected a congress full of transit hating fools. The new transportation bill shows you what most americans think of transit, they prefer cars and oil rigs. Also is Mitt is elected, say goodbye to HSR and transit funding. Say hello to off-shore drilling and highway expansion. |
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A 2000ft tower is a vanity project, but in China w/ their population and congested cities, it will serve them well in the future. NYC could also fall into that category with the tiny landmass called manhattan. THen again, the economy could collapse again. I also see NIMBY issues for a 2000 foot tower. I'd be happy with a 500m to roof in NYC. |
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Yeah I wouldnt want empty skyscrapers either...But I think Americans should care about infrastructure and competing globally with the Chinese and Arabs again...And with transit and skyscrapers both. LOL and Id def never go live in China no thanks! |
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Most Chinese skyscrapers aren't built in a traditional urban format, anyways. They're usually in Pudong-style planned zones, with suburban-style formats. A place like Paris has far higher density, without highrises. And Chinese population is projected to decline significantly over the long-term, so I don't think it's accurate to say that skyscraper construction serves future growth needs. |
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Chinese are planning taller towers for image and practical means. They know that their cities are crammed and there is little room to sprawl, so they are planning for the future by building tall towers that satisfy their need for prestige and for reducing the need to build office towers all over the place. They also like low density CBD's due to cultural factors. |
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So yes it's possible, there's also a 1776 foot tower being built. NIMBYs don't know it's 1776 to the spire, they just see the figure. Basically if you build as of right those morons can't do shitaki mushrooms. Plus as more and more tall buildings are built, the less power they will have. If it can make money it will get built regardless of what a bunch of yammering idiots think. |
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