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BDiH Mar 2, 2021 6:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9204072)
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Two slides take in 1967, Venice.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/79dMiM.jpg
eBay

This is my face..:stunned:..when I noticed the two young boys riding in front.







This kid said 'Hold my beer'.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/4dX7Vs.jpg
eBay

The blonde boy :previous: in the white t-shirt might be the kid on the right in the first slide.

Has anyone heard of the advertisers. . . Royal Star Apartments or Ron's Restaurant?

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It was like jumping on the Cable Cars in SFO. Hop a ride until you got caught. It was only 10 cents when I was a kid, but I didn't always have ten cents.

BillinGlendaleCA Mar 2, 2021 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9204072)
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Two slides take in 1967, Venice.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/79dMiM.jpg
eBay

This is my face..:stunned:..when I noticed the two young boys riding in front.





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That first slide is not in Venice, that's Santa Monica. The Casa Del Mar Hotel is in the background.

Lwize Mar 2, 2021 3:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 9204773)
That first slide is not in Venice, that's Santa Monica. The Casa Del Mar Hotel is in the background.

Well, Venice adjacent... ;)

(The Venice border is 9/10mi down the beach)

Martin Pal Mar 2, 2021 5:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9203695)
What was going on in the city on this apparently chilly 1950 afternoon?....let's check the Her-Ex headline.....
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Thanks, riichkay, for deciphering that headline, as I had been trying to do that and got nowhere!

BDiH Mar 2, 2021 9:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 9204773)
That first slide is not in Venice, that's Santa Monica. The Casa Del Mar Hotel is in the background.

Or Synanon, the drug rehab clinic, as it was known then.

ethereal_reality Mar 3, 2021 3:08 AM

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:previous:

There was an episode of Mannix that took place there when it was a drug rehab clinic. Does anyone remember that episode?





Update:

I found it!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/uV0QMx.jpg


The episode was 'Delayed Action'.


Season 1, Episode 22 (aired on March 2, 1968)


Only a few scenes were shot on location.

Video Link


If I remember correctly it's a pretty good episode.

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CaliNative Mar 3, 2021 7:19 AM

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
1920's

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 9204211)
Fascinating subject ! Thanks. His glasses are very 1920s...

:wiseman: Since we are back in the '20s, I prophesize owlish circular horn rim glasses will come back into style. O-O Hopefully, flappers will also magically reappear :pimpdaddy: :dancing:

CityBoyDoug Mar 3, 2021 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9205773)
"Dorsey Says City Can Be Ordered To Ban All Autos Blocking Streets" (I think).....seems rather draconian, but without the context it's hard to say what was being proposed.


When they had the one-way rush hour traffic, it was a big deal that there was no parking allowed in the parking zone at the side of street.

Martin Pal Mar 3, 2021 6:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9205773)
Since we are back in the '20s, I prophesize owlish circular horn rim glasses will come back into style.

Or how about something new...like this...


ethereal_reality Mar 3, 2021 7:28 PM

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Here's an amazing original photograph of the. . .

Shepherd-Campbell Co. Service Station, 2500 Figueroa Avenue, Los Angeles.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/9dHyOo.jpg
Link

An arch this wide must be full of rebar - otherwise it would crumble in the slightest earthquake.




This image differs from the other photographs we have seen of this station. You can view them Here


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ethereal_reality Mar 3, 2021 8:00 PM

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This one is a mystery location.


The same eBay seller also has this original photograph of a much more modest gas station.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/rZrcpl.jpg
Link






Luckily, there are some clues. Here are two of them

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DzYghq.jpg
detail


A sign for cinema equipment (and a tailor) on the left....And the street number #102 on the right.

Good luck minions!



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ethereal_reality Mar 3, 2021 8:32 PM

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One more mystery location for today.



Los Angeles Street, 4x5 Photo Negative from 1970 #210222l


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/1HGSLo.jpg
eBay (no longer listed)









There is one worthless slight clue. . .

a sign on the building.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/IIwJdv.jpg
detail

but it's very blurry.





I don't believe the seller means "Los Angeles Street", per se, because all their negatives of Los Angeles say Los Angeles Street, 4x5 Photo Negative 1970 and then a number code.

You can see some of them Here


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KevinW Mar 4, 2021 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9203150)
Yes Odinthor, sometimes things can be so confusing and strange. The other day I was looking at the cloudy sky over Hollywood and one of the clouds looked like a bunny rabbit and another one looked like a lion. Can you imagine that?

I usually don't talk about it on NLA....I just keep it to myself.

I guess we have a new topic on NLA...carousel artwork.

I actually like hearing about Carousel Artwork. No need to be snide.

CaliNative Mar 4, 2021 3:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9206237)
Or how about something new...like this...


Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9205773)
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
1920's---2020's?



:wiseman: Since we are back in the '20s, I prophesize owlish circular horn rim glasses will come back into style. O-O Hopefully, flappers will also magically reappear :pimpdaddy: :dancing:

:wiseman: I choose the round ones Martin. When covid goes bye bye I'm going to my optometrist and will get a pair of circular black horn rims. But I refuse to wear a stiff Hoover collar.

Sakhal Nakhash Mar 4, 2021 2:27 PM

"One more mystery location for today"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9206432)
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One more mystery location for today.



Los Angeles Street, 4x5 Photo Negative from 1970 #210222l


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/1HGSLo.jpg
eBay (no longer listed)









There is one worthless slight clue. . .

a sign on the building.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/IIwJdv.jpg
detail

but it's very blurry.





I don't believe the seller means "Los Angeles Street", per se, because all their negatives of Los Angeles say Los Angeles Street, 4x5 Photo Negative 1970 and then a number code.

You can see some of them Here


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Good morning ethereal_reality,

It's been a long time since I've posted here, about 6 years to be exact.
I wanted to point out, (if you have not already done the same thing), that I took a look at the seller's other listing, and found what looks to me to be the same location, facing the opposite direction. I can't make out the signs, however, I'm hoping someone else may be able to.

UPDATE:
Hmmm, apparently I can only add a link to the photo, and not the photo itself. *sigh*

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles...p2047675.l2557

Arch2000 Mar 4, 2021 5:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakhal Nakhash (Post 9207114)
Good morning ethereal_reality,

It's been a long time since I've posted here, about 6 years to be exact.
I wanted to point out, (if you have not already done the same thing), that I took a look at the seller's other listing, and found what looks to me to be the same location, facing the opposite direction. I can't make out the signs, however, I'm hoping someone else may be able to.

UPDATE:
Hmmm, apparently I can only add a link to the photo, and not the photo itself. *sigh*

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles...p2047675.l2557

Ooh Ooh! I think I can finally solve one of these! Thanks to Sakhal's post/clue, which I agree is another photo taken from the opposite direction, there is a clue in the photo- a sign for Harbor Animal Hospital. A Harbor Animal Hospital still exists at 2078 Torrance Blvd, Torrance, which is a divided street which used to have train tracks.

So I believe this is a photo of the intersection of Torrance Blvd & Van Ness, looking West towards the intersection. The area is completely changed now, everything around having been built or re-built from the early 1980s. However, looking at historic aerials, there does appear to have been a L-shaped building near that intersection similar to ER's photo. Long gone, I have no idea what it was.

ethereal_reality Mar 4, 2021 6:21 PM

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Excellent collaboration Sakhal Nakhash & Arch2000! :worship:



I saved the photograph it before it disappeared.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/pPXSGw.jpg
eBay





Now I'm curious about this sign. (sorry, I can't help myself)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/Zj8Pdu.jpg
detail


Thank again for your help!

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Mister_Vintage Mar 5, 2021 1:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9204072)
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This kid said 'Hold my beer'.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/4dX7Vs.jpg
eBay

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^^ i used to ride trams like that when i was a kid so i wouldn't pay the ticket :haha::haha::haha:

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If someone can read german:

https://i.imgur.com/LymrIYs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1AMm7hT.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/T7Liarg.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1v5r0WE.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/sTQXDwr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4uim7sF.jpg

Mister_Vintage Mar 5, 2021 1:29 AM

And some cool slides

https://i.imgur.com/iULwlKO.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8DvmiVw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XxrQffG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9oNt6LP.jpg

Earl Boebert Mar 5, 2021 3:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister_Vintage (Post 9207892)

Did anybody else note that the truck was loaded with Lucky Lager?

Earl

CityBoyDoug Mar 5, 2021 5:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 9206682)
I actually like hearing about Carousel Artwork. No need to be snide.

Excuse me, occasionally I do have an opinion that's mine.

https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bph...qnV0BCZQ/l.jpg
Griffith Park

CityBoyDoug Mar 5, 2021 6:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 9206682)
I actually like hearing about Carousel Artwork. No need to be snide.

Its always nice to read your comments. You always have somethings pleasant to say to me. I put up a carousel pic for you because I knew you would like it.

CaliNative Mar 5, 2021 6:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9208055)
Excuse me, occasionally I do have an opinion that's mine. Sorry if that offends you.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Mm16g6IGbE...0/100_1521.JPG
Griffith Park

Doug, I remember a couple of months ago when you talked about how rabbit meat used to be much easier to find in markets before the 1970s. As a kid in the 1960s, I remember seeing rabbit in the meat departments when I went shopping with my parents. Are there any markets where you can get it anymore? I'm eager to give it a try. It is supposed to be very healthy to eat, low fat, etc. I saw a show on CNN Sunday on the regions and cooking of Italy hosted by the actor Stanley Tucci and part of one show talked about the island of Ischia off Naples where rabbits are a favorite dish and it looked very good. But first need to buy it. Can't figure out why a healthy tasty meat like thst became hard to find in stores. Maybe "bunny wabbits" became too cute to eat? Kids raised on Bugs Bunny cartoons refused to eat it so the parents stopped buying it? Well, chickens are somewhat cute, but we eat them. Anyway, that show on Italy reminded me. Your posts here are always interesting. Thanks.

CityBoyDoug Mar 5, 2021 6:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9208083)
Doug, I remember a couple of months ago when you talked about how rabbit meat used to be nuch easier to find in markets before the 1970s. Are there any markets where you can get it anymore? I'm eager to give it a try. It is supposed to be very healthy to eat, low fat, etc. I saw a show on CNN Sunday on the regions and cooking of Italy and part of one show talked about the island of Ischia off Naples where rabbits are a favorite dish and it looked very good. But first need to buy it. Can't figure out why a healthy tasty meat like thst became hard to find in stores.

I have no idea. I would ask your local butcher where to buy it....he should know.

KevinW Mar 5, 2021 6:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9208055)
Excuse me, occasionally I do have an opinion that's mine.

https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bph...qnV0BCZQ/l.jpg
Griffith Park

Funny, but your opinions frequently seem to be a little nasty towards others. And if it makes you happy to post a carosel picture, all the better. I've met enough nasty people in LA. Lighten up.

CityBoyDoug Mar 5, 2021 2:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 9208092)
Funny, but your opinions frequently seem to be a little nasty towards others. And if it makes you happy to post a carosel picture, all the better. I've met enough nasty people in LA. Lighten up.

It would be best for you to look in the mirror. For some reason you like to start fights with me. Why?

ethereal_reality Mar 5, 2021 5:09 PM

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Doug, if you don't like a topic it doesn't mean that others don't find it interesting.

KevinW was right to call you out on your snide remark about the possiblity that circus paintings were incorporated into the Beckman Furs sign.

I fully expect that you will now attack me. Instead, you could start a discussion on a subject that you find interesting. That would be most welcome.

Thanks Doug



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ethereal_reality Mar 5, 2021 5:22 PM

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Tourists visit RKO Studios in Culver City.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/cytlwz.jpg

The RKO sign matches the neo-Colonialism of the administration building in the background but, honestly, I thought the sign would have been a bit fancier.

I don't see any small floodlights on the ground to light up the sign at night. I wonder if there is neon around the border of the sign (similar to the neon around the 'circus' paintings on the, recently discussed, Beckman Furs sign.


(I took a closer look. I think it's probably wood molding and not neon)


As most of you know the administration building (behind the sign) is shown (most famously) at the beginning of Gone With the Wind when it was the administration building of Selznick International Studios.

If I remember correctly there was a hanging sign back then. (or maybe that was just for the movies) :shrug:


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GaylordWilshire Mar 5, 2021 5:36 PM

I've been tuning into this thread for over 11 years. I'm not aware of any arguing here in all that time that hasn't involved CityBoyDoug or his former persona (and current, elsewhere on the internet), DouglasUrantia. Interesting how that's worked.

A wider view of the RKO building. The sign's pediment matches the building's.
https://i.postimg.cc/7LB1nJh2/rkobldg-bmp.jpg

CityBoyDoug Mar 5, 2021 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9208448)
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Doug, if you don't like a topic it doesn't mean that others don't find it interesting.

KevinW was right to call you out on your snide remark about the possiblity that circus paintings were incorporated into the Beckman Furs sign.

I fully expect that you will now attack me. Instead, you could start a discussion on a subject that you find interesting. That would be most welcome.

Thanks Doug



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I posted a pic of some carousel paintings that I thought Kevin would like. Instead of saying ''thank you'', he attacked me again. What's his problem?

ethereal_reality Mar 5, 2021 5:41 PM

Let it go. PLEASE.

ethereal_reality Mar 5, 2021 5:42 PM

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Here's what I was referring to at the beginning of Gone With The Wind.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/CdcUzI.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/MpFkDZ.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/H9LCq9.jpg

As you can see the camera pans down to the administration building.
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Martin Pal Mar 5, 2021 6:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 9203703)
[...]
So, speaking of Bunker Hill, I thought it might be of interest to the assembled that there's been something of a discovery...where once there were no extant surviving houses from the Hill, it seems there is one, and a good one at that...
[...]
https://bunkerhilllosangelescom.file...-am.png?w=1024

Read all about it here https://bunkerhilllosangeles.com/2021/02/27/a-survivor/
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I visited this house yesterday. Lots more greenery around it including the tree (bare in this photo). It felt quite shady. (A good thing.) Was a lovely setting. And there it's been hiding in plain sight all this time!

CityBoyDoug Mar 5, 2021 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 9208475)
I've been tuning into this thread for over 11 years. I'm not aware of any arguing here in all that time that hasn't involved CityBoyDoug or his former persona (and current, elsewhere on the internet), DouglasUrantia. Interesting how that's worked.

I always enjoy your posts Gaylord. Lets see more of them.

CityBoyDoug Mar 5, 2021 6:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9208479)
Let it go. PLEASE.

I like this photo and I hope Kevin and E R like it also.

https://christineknight.me/wp-conten...round-7670.jpg
Griffith Park

CityBoyDoug Mar 5, 2021 7:57 PM

https://www.smgov.net/uploadedImages...sel.JPG?n=1686
Santa Monica

CityBoyDoug Mar 5, 2021 11:04 PM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d5/46...41ef8d38b5.jpg
Santa Monica

I like this and I hope other NLA people like it also.:tup::notacrook::tup::tup:

CaliNative Mar 6, 2021 2:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9208082)
Its always nice to read your comments. You always have somethings pleasant to say to me. I put up a carousel pic for you because I knew you would like it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 9208092)
Funny, but your opinions frequently seem to be a little nasty towards others. And if it makes you happy to post a carosel picture, all the better. I've met enough nasty people in LA. Lighten up.

Enjoy reading everbody's posts including Doug's. Can we all get along here? Everybody is a bit testy at times because of the unusual covid times. Let this be a place to forget about the troubles with old noirish memories. Most of the posters here have been around for at least a four or five decades, including me. Like to remember the 70s, 60s and 50s. I especially like the old pics from the 1920s, even though that was 25 years before I was born. This is the place to remember the old times. :cheers:

CaliNative Mar 6, 2021 2:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 9208962)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d5/46...41ef8d38b5.jpg
Santa Monica

I like this and I hope other NLA people like it also.:tup::notacrook::tup::tup:

Used to ride the ones in Griffith Park and Santa Monica when I was a kid. Good memories. Didn't they use this one in SaMo in "the Sting"?

CaliNative Mar 6, 2021 4:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mister_Vintage (Post 9207898)

^^^
Comments & Memories:

1. Ocean cargo ships pre-container era. They used to hire more dockworkers to unload them. The old freighters were tiny compared to modern container ships.

2. L.A. International future version opened in 1961, and V.P. Lyndon Johnson came to town for the grand opening in 1961. I was there...with my parents. It was a big deal. We took photos but I can't find them. Maybe someone can find & post some of the grand open pics with LBJ. I remember LBJ didn't smile much. I think Polson was still mayor & Johnson looked bored. A year or two earlier Khruschev came to town and got mad when Disneyland wouldn't let him visit. He also got into a shouting match with mayor Polson. I remember the Herald Examiner used to call Khruschev "Mr. K".

3. The opening of Disneyland in '55 was a mess..it was hot, the asphalt melted, not enough food, long lines, rides broke down. We went a few weeks later and most of the gremlins were gone. It was fun but very crowded.

4.If the photograper had of panned a bit right, the lovely Richfield tower would be visible. Gasometer upper right. Mystery...where is the turreted old Hall of Records? Is it hidden by one of the other buildings? There is a building to the left of city hall in front of the federal courthouse, but it doesn't look quite like the H of R....but maybe it is.

CityBoyDoug Mar 6, 2021 5:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9209102)
Enjoy reading everbody's posts including Doug's. Can we all get along here? Everybody is a bit testy at times because of the unusual covid times. Let this be a place to forget about the troubles with old noirish memories. Most of the posters here have been around for at least a four or five decades, including me. Like to remember the 70s, 60s and 50s. I especially like the old pics from the 1920s, even though that was 25 years before I was born. This is the place to remember the old times. :cheers:

Thank you Cali for the kind words to me.

Secondly, there's someone on here who likes to Dox people. They know who they are. This is illegal.... and wicked.

Lorendoc Mar 6, 2021 5:13 AM

Deutsche Übersetzung
 
Per Mister_Vintage's request:

https://i.imgur.com/LymrIYs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1AMm7hT.jpg

This one says:

"Orient and Occident"

"Camels wait at a Union Pacific station at Indio, California, USA, to take travelers to an oasis in the middle of a stretch of desert near Los Angeles."

There are some mistakes/typos in the original but this is what I think was meant.

riichkay Mar 6, 2021 8:23 AM

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

Just posted to YouTube, another of those digitally remastered, colorized, sound added clips....this one has 25 young ladies travelling out here in 1929 to meet Mary Pickford, as a promotion for her first sound picture....not really much L.A. footage, but we do see the Mt. Lowe Railway, and the final shot of the girls boarding a train, which should please all you gasometer fans....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuCXFt52SNs

HossC Mar 6, 2021 8:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister_Vintage (Post 9207898)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9209174)

4.If the photograper had of panned a bit right, the lovely Richfield tower would be visible. Gasometer upper right. Mystery...where is the turreted old Hall of Records? Is it hidden by one of the other buildings? There is a building to the left of city hall in front of the federal courthouse, but it doesn't look quite like the H of R....but maybe it is.

It's there, but partly hidden by the Law Building. Here's a slightly different angle from 1961, which is a few years after the photo above. I've linked (L-R) the Law Building, the Hall of Records, the State Building and City Hall to an adjusted detail of the original image.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
LAPL/www.delcampe.net

CaliNative Mar 6, 2021 1:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9209279)
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

Just posted to YouTube, another of those digitally remastered, colorized, sound added clips....this one has 25 young ladies travelling out here in 1929 to meet Mary Pickford, as a promotion for her first sound picture....not really much L.A. footage, but we do see the Mt. Lowe Railway, and the final shot of the girls boarding a train, which should please all you gasometer fans....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuCXFt52SNs

Flappers (or maybe a bit older) and gasometers. In (almost) living color. Only Babe Ruth with the "flappers" would make this more Roaring '20ish. Yes! :tup:

I have talked about a return to circular horn rimmed glasses now that we are in the '20s again. Maybe women will start wearing the helmet-like cloche hats again? I want to see a full Roaring '20s by the time we get out of this pandemic and people are ready to let lose and party again...certainly by the '28 Olympics :wiseman:

CaliNative Mar 6, 2021 1:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9209283)
It's there, but partly hidden by the Law Building. Here's a slightly different angle from 1961, which is a few years after the photo above. I've linked (L-R) the Law Building, the Hall of Records, the State Building and City Hall to an adjusted detail of the original image.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds
LAPL/www.delcampe.net

Yes, there it is. I thought that might be it. The old H of Rs defined the pre-1970s era for me, along with the Richfield & gasometers. I don't miss the gasometers or Brew 102 that much, but I do miss the Bastille-castle-like old Hall of Records (almost as much as the Richfield tower). But the odd angle because of the old street layout got in the way of the civic mall plans, and maybe it was not up to seismic codes, so it had to go I suppose. Still, I miss it. At least we still have the Daily Planet, I mean City Hall.

Sakhal Nakhash Mar 6, 2021 3:35 PM

"I do miss the Bastille-castle-like old Hall of Records (almost as much as the Richfield tower). But the odd angle because of the old street layout got in the way of the civic mall plans, and maybe it was not up to seismic codes, so it had to go I suppose. Still, I miss it. At least we still have the Daily Planet, I mean City Hall."

I wish they would design and build buildings like that these days. Every year I am increasingly disgusted by what passes as architecture.
In fact it seems more like a race to the bottom. Uglier and uglier buildings, constructed out of the cheapest material, with the minimalist of design and effort.
And somehow people, not only accept these "buildings", they actually seem to like the laziness and lack of taste for some reason.

/rant. :tantrum:

Snix Mar 6, 2021 5:08 PM

UPDATED: I spoke with Tiny's son Biff, who tells me the googie-style building was a dinner house NEXT TO the Tiny Naylor's at Sunset and La Brea. He identified it on this aerial.


B restaurant
C trash room and storage
D small office
E public restrooms
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3a38b4db7b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...54222318_b.jpg

Here we go! Maybe this is why nobody has heard of this place. Did this restaurant only last one year?! Looks like it was sold to Stephen Crane to become a Kon Tiki restaurant in 1959.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...16aa3c5f_z.jpg
Los Angeles Evening Citizen News 10/24/59

Is this "House of Naylor" at "Wilshire and La Cienega" a different angle of the same building? The dates don't add up.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6d2a012b_b.jpg
Los Angeles Evening Citizen News 11.14.57
What a stellar architectural lineup. My all-time favorites: Eldon Davis, Helen Fong, and Hans and Betsy Werner. The dream team behind Pann's.
Helen Fong was recently profiled by Smithsonian magazine: https://savingplaces.org/stories/thr...e#.YEO6EhNKiZ0

I've confirmed the address of "House of Naylor" as 38 N. La Cienega, which was Benihana from 1971-2015.
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GSV

In 1965 it was San Francisco Joe's. Neither it or the tiki joint lasted very long.
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Los Angeles Evening Citizen News 7.30.65




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Originally Posted by Snix (Post 9189745)
I was unfamiliar with the Eddie Arcaro restaurant on Melrose, but I've long been curious about his collaborations with Tiny Naylor - and specifically about the incredible googie style restaurant below photographed by Julius Shulman. Shulman dates these 1954 and credits them to architects Jones and Emmons, but according to the clippings, the Arcaro/Naylor restaurant(s) opened in 1958 and were designed by Armet & Davis. This looks much more of an A&D design than a Jones and Emmons design. It does NOT appear to be one of these:

1. "House of Naylor" somewhere on La Cienega

2. Tiny Naylor's coffee shop 14 N. La Cienega, Beverly Hills

3. "Eddie Arcaro's Winner's Circle" 8620 S. Western Ave.
This is described as the second collaboration with an interior "styled after an English tavern." Clearly not the one in the Shulman photos.


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Julius Shulman © J. Paul Getty Trust. Getty Research Institute, Los Angeles (2004.R.10)

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Julius Shulman © J. Paul Getty Trust. Getty Research Institute, Los Angeles (2004.R.10)

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Julius Shulman © J. Paul Getty Trust. Getty Research Institute, Los Angeles (2004.R.10)

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Julius Shulman © J. Paul Getty Trust. Getty Research Institute, Los Angeles (2004.R.10)

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Julius Shulman © J. Paul Getty Trust. Getty Research Institute, Los Angeles (2004.R.10)

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Los Angeles Times 5/26/58

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Los Angeles Times 6/29/58

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Los Angeles Times 11/23/58

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"House of Naylor" on Tiny Naylor's menu from Worthpoint

Tiny Naylor's at 14 N. La Cienega (at Wilshire) in Beverly Hills
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Photo; Armet & Davis, via Los Angeles magazine
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Getty Images: Eddie Arcaro Wearing Chef Hat While Cooking
(Original Caption) Jockey Eddie Arcaro trades in his riding silks for a chef's hat and prepares a steak in the new restaurant he has an interest in here. Arcaro has entered into a partnership with the famous restaurateur Tiny Naylor, and the pair announced that they will open a Winner's Circle Room in the House of Naylor on La Cienga's restaurant row.
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House of Naylor sign by David Sutton at MPTV
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CaliNative Mar 6, 2021 11:32 PM

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CaliNative Mar 6, 2021 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sakhal Nakhash (Post 9209381)
"I do miss the Bastille-castle-like old Hall of Records (almost as much as the Richfield tower). But the odd angle because of the old street layout got in the way of the civic mall plans, and maybe it was not up to seismic codes, so it had to go I suppose. Still, I miss it. At least we still have the Daily Planet, I mean City Hall."

I wish they would design and build buildings like that these days. Every year I am increasingly disgusted by what passes as architecture.
In fact it seems more like a race to the bottom. Uglier and uglier buildings, constructed out of the cheapest material, with the minimalist of design and effort.
And somehow people, not only accept these "buildings", they actually seem to like the laziness and lack of taste for some reason.

/rant. :tantrum:

Mostly agree. Some modern and post modern has been fairly well done, like the Library (U.S. Bank) and Wilshire Grand. As I have said before, would love to see a noirish "neo" art deco or "neo" gothic tower(s) in DTLA that replicated the beauty of the Richfield, Empire State or Chrysler buildings. Why should these beloved styles go away forever? More spires, not just boxes now that the heli landing pad law has been removed I believe. Super tall would be nice, but even 700 footer would be great. L.A. probably would have had a pre-1950s if not for the 150 foot height limit that restricted height until the late 1950s. City Hall got an exemption in the 1920s, and the decorative spires of Richfield and Eastern Columbia (the cool blue tower) and a couple of others also were allowed to go higher (Richfield almost 400' to the top of the spire). On the other hand, if buildings were made more costly to build, might get fewer built since the economics and financing wouldn't pencil out. More better designed buildings with affordable materials hopefully.


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