NEW YORK | Independence Plaza Tower (Tribeca) | 940 FT | FLOORS
"Their initial plan: a 900-foot tower that would land on Greenwich at Jay, just north of 310 Greenwich — the southernmost of the three towers that make up Independence Plaza. (The other two are 40 Harrison and 80 N. Moore.) The building would be constructed atop the public plaza where PS 150 used to be, and (I think) would require the demolition of the townhouses there and on Greenwich.
A spokesperson for Stellar Management saw my original post and asked that I add this statement: Independence Plaza’s current zoning would permit the construction of additional floor area above that existing today. Stellar Management and Vornado Realty Trust (VNO) are in the early stages of exploring a project that would create market rate and affordable housing, while making significant improvements to the streetscape, open space, and retail frontage; enabling the owners to attract businesses that better serve community needs. Stellar and VNO are committed to working in partnership with Independence Plaza residents and the Tribeca community to ensure this project addresses those needs. The non-ULURP modification process will require preparation of a full Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) that assesses the project’s impacts on shadows, traffic, schools, neighboring buildings, and other matters. This process will include a number of opportunities for community members and others to provide feedback. Marte said the developers said they are still several years off — maybe five before construction starts. “It seems like it’s in the early stages,” the councilmember said. “They are hiring a team to flesh it out a bit further. Me and my team are against this tower — we don’t need more luxury development in this area.” The developers, he said, were unclear how much affordable housing would be included. The development is zoned as a C6-4, which permits high-bulk, high-rise, mixed-use buildings — meaning it can be both commercial and residential. C6-4 districts have a maximum FAR (floor area ration) of 10.0 or 15.0 — meaning the total area of the buildings can be 10 times or 15 times their footprint. In these districts, floor area may be increased by a bonus for a public plaza or Inclusionary (affordable) Housing. It looks like the gross floor area of the entire development — nine buildings — up to N. Moore is 2 million square feet, when you examine the city’s zoning maps. That sounds like it will add up to a LOT of buildable square footage." https://tribecacitizen.com/2023/11/2...ge-1/#comments https://global.discourse-cdn.com/bus...72eba0418.jpeg Credit: http://www.tribecatrib.com/content/9...pendence-plaza |
Wow!
2 million square feet can be an enormous tower. World Trade Center-ish. New York! America! |
The following: " The non-ULURP modification process will require preparation of a full Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) that assesses the project’s impacts on shadows, traffic, schools, neighboring buildings, and other matters. "
Makes me nervous. This is Tribeca... The shadows... oh boy. |
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Very interesting. I spent some time at BMCC years ago, I thought that IP development was built out already. But it's a great location for more housing and they should push up the timeline as much as possible. https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/t...jpg?1604591662 https://www.transparentcity.co/build...pendence-plaza https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/t...png?1604591657 https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/t...jpg?1604591660 https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/t...jpg?1604591660 https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/t...jpg?1536202315 https://www.hlres.com/cdn-cgi/image/...s/view/6376031 https://www.hlres.com/listings/930119/rental-tribeca |
Great news. There will be NIMBY pushback, but this is the right time to move forward.
The Manhattan Borough President, who could be mayor in a few years, is very pro-development, as long as there's a major affordable housing component. And 2 million square feet will have a major skyline impact. Should be great for the Lower Manhattan skyline. |
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940? Nice.
Would love to see a building like that in this area. |
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Towering Ambitions 900-Foot Residential Building Proposed at Independence Plaza https://i0.wp.com/www.ebroadsheet.co...eg?w=598&ssl=1 December 8, 2023 Quote:
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I will never understand the people who live in Lower Manhattan or Midtown and complain about new skyscrapers. They chose to live where the tallest buildings have historically been built. This didn't start 10 years ago.
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Well, I don't think the problem is people hating tall buildings so much, but always involving these communities in various projects. Just look at who the rulers of New York are... and you understand many things. Not to mention an 18 month review process... unnecessary bureaucracy. If I were a developer I wouldn't build the tower in that area... just look at those horrible buildings nearby.
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It’s insanity. Personally, I never get the fear of a tall building. If you live in or near a 300 ft building, a 900 ft building isn’t going to change all that much from a ground perspective. It’s from a distance where it comes into play. Because this is basically up to City Planning to decide, it’ll end up in court, where the NIMBYs will have to be shot down by multiple judges. It’s the Lower East Side all over again. This building will do no more damage to the neighborhood than 56 Leonard did. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...S.IMG_8519.JPG |
They probally don't like it because they don't want to look out their window and see a taller tower and know they they can't afford those units. Its all the who has the largest tower concept. Clearly 940 ft hurts their old egos... and they complain!
Yeah this will go through the motions, courts will rule for it... and it will rise. Same sort of BS with the LES towers. After hurdles and hurdles, lawsuits being shot down... eventually, reason will prevail. On a side note, I hope those LES towers (Cherry/Clinton streets) start soon. |
I think the low level setbacks are very much in context with the surrounding area.
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Are there renderings now?
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They're still working with the architects, so its all preliminary.
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We get this in Long Island City, too, of all places. Of all the neighborhoods in NYC, you would figure that everyone would be cool with more towers. Like clockwork, though, every new tower proposal brings out the NIMBYs. They conveniently forgot that they only moved here in 2017. |
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