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Lwize Jul 18, 2014 7:29 PM

http://www.trbimg.com/img-53c869a9/t...40717/800/9x16

The Commercial Exchange Building at 416 W. 8th St.

(Johanna Siegmann - LATIMES.COM)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LA Times
Downtown L.A. office building to be converted to hip hotel

By Roger Vincent

A long-vacant 1920s office building in a recovering neighborhood of downtown Los Angeles has been purchased by prominent developers who intend to make it into a hip hotel for young people traveling on a budget.

The 13-story Commercial Exchange Building at 8th and Olive streets is in the midst of a rapidly gentrifying area where new apartments, restaurants, stores and a hotel have recently opened or are under construction.

Its new owner is Sydell Group Ltd., which has developed such au courant inns as the Ace Hotel in New York and the Line on Wilshire Boulevard in the Koreatown district of Los Angeles. Sydell's financial partners are Yucaipa Cos. and AllianceBernstein.

Terms of the sale were not disclosed, but the Los Angeles partnership selling the building was asking for more than $15 million.

Sydell will develop the Commercial Exchange Building in partnership with Yucaipa Cos., a Los Angeles investment company headed by billionaire Ron Burkle. The two firms formed a joint venture called Freehand to develop hotels that combine the social culture of a hostel with the amenities of a trendy hotel.

There is a Freehand in Miami Beach, and the Freehand Chicago is under construction.

Plans for the Freehand in Los Angeles call for more than 200 rooms that would be a mix of conventional guest rooms and larger rooms with as many as six beds. Those beds could be reserved as a group or individually, as is common in youth hostels around the world.

The hotel is to have a rooftop pool and lounge. Plans also call for a living-room-like lobby, a bar, a restaurant and street-level stores.

"The Freehand is designed as a place for people who want to interact with other guests and with locals," said Andrew E. Zobler, chief executive of Sydell. "It's set up for people who want to have experiences as opposed to people who just want to sleep and get in and out."

Improvements will cost about $40 million, he said. Construction is anticipated to begin in the third quarter of 2015 and be complete in summer 2016. The makeover is being designed by Killefer Flammang Architects of Santa Monica.

The tall neon blade sign that says "Commercial Exchange Bldg." at 8th and Olive streets will remain and be part of the hotel, Zobler said.

"We think the building is quite beautiful and we really like its location," he said. "We feel like it's sort of a nexus in downtown."

Interest in acquiring the old steel and concrete building was intense, said real estate broker Phillip Sample of CBRE Group Inc., who represented the sellers. Potential buyers considered making it into apartments, creative office space or mixed-use space.

"We had people looking at it from every angle," Sample said. "It's one of the best-located buildings in all of downtown."

The building was completed in 1924 after that southern section of downtown Los Angeles was rezoned from an upscale residential neighborhood to commercial use.

City officials decided to widen Olive Street in the mid-1930s, and the owners of the Commercial Exchange Building at 8th and Olive were obligated to remove a nearly 10-foot-wide section from the middle of the building. Engineers reunited the two pieces by sliding the western portion east, thereby opening up more space on Olive Street. The process cost $60,000, The Times reported in 1935. That would be more than $1 million in 2014 dollars.

Owl Drug Co. was once headquartered in the building, Sample said. Another occupant was "Tarzan" author Edgar Rice Burroughs, who operated his own publishing company.

That area of downtown fell out of favor in the decades after World War II as department stores followed their customers to the suburbs and white-collar businesses moved to newer offices closer to the 110 Freeway.

Now it is one of the fastest-growing neighborhoods in the state. A Whole Foods market is under construction in a new apartment complex across the street from the Freehand. And the Ace Hotel Los Angeles opened earlier this year on nearby Broadway, which is experiencing a commercial renaissance.

The Freehand will be another attraction for the neighborhood, City Councilman Jose Huizar said.

"As we continue to increase our hotel stock," he said, "this project will provide a unique option to travelers and those seeking a creative, social experience as they explore downtown."

roger.vincent@latimes.com


Godzilla Jul 18, 2014 7:44 PM

You can't go home again, but that doesn't stop us from trying?





I am NOT seeking to expand the already-broad subject matter of this thread. Hard to have a "relaxed" discussion of geographical limitations without considering both structures and the people who built and inhabited them. Even chronological limitations would be daunting for so broad an audience. LA's so-called Fantasy Factories and their product make the subject more of an "ethereal" state of mind than easily understood "reality."

Hollywood's perennial Goodwill Ambassador, Bob Leslie Hope, among others, was known for bringing a touch of "home" to many non-LA outposts. Like it or not, this too, is part of LA even the LA noir.

Apropo of Martin's "some assembly required" observation, the common, ever-expanding city-limits gag, depicted above, may have been in one or two of the Hope-Crosby road pictures or some other Hollywood comedic efforts. A tip of the hat to Mulholland and his cohorts?

Also reminded of the iconic New Yorker cover depicting a view from 9th Avenue. (Sorry) It does mention LA, in a small way.:frog: I'd bet more than a few NLA'ers share a not-dissimilar view from PCH.

All in all, I think the thread is fine just the way it is. To borrow from HossC and Martha Stewart, occasionally, going off the beaten path can be a good thing, just be careful to avoid the occasional poison ivy.



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Quote:

The company ran out of the Lockheed Air Terminal (which later became the Bob Hope Airport) and was popular with the Hollywood crowd using the service to go back and forth to Las Vegas.
Undated
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1927 - NW Corner of City Hall. Could the folks responsible for this, be accepting of the current state of LA's eclectic look? :shrug:
http://waterandpower.org/Early_LA_Bu...truction_2.jpghttp://waterandpower.org/Early_LA_Bu...truction_2.jpg








No endorsement of the following, just an acknowledgment of their existence.


http://www.culturalweekly.com/wp-con...-14-web-15.jpghttp://www.culturalweekly.com/wp-con...-14-web-15.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xh8ii2Ir00.../IMG_2749.jpeghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xh8ii2Ir00.../IMG_2749.jpeg

http://payload.cargocollective.com/1...b11_5_1000.jpghttp://payload.cargocollective.com/1...b11_5_1000.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cxIW2Lgzmu...street+art.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cxIW2Lgzmu...street+art.jpg


1985 - Fifth and Broadway
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics28/00048674.jpghttp://jpg2.lapl.org/pics28/00048674.jpg




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At what point does the "two-hour-rule" start to apply? :uhh:

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Sonny☼LA Jul 18, 2014 8:28 PM

Thanks...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6660325)
Excellent tour of the old signal center Sonny_LA.

Again, thanks Sonny_LA. Your photographs are an inspiration. Please feel free to share more of them with us here at NLA. :)

Muchas, muchas gracias, ER. The Don in Wilmington was fun - it was great talking to the gentleman outside polishing his mildly modded Impala and snapping some group photos of him and his friends. For once, I kinda like the new sign - something more iconic about just "The Don". Good times. And more to come - this thread is the gift that keeps on giving: spider pools, ghost signs, zanjas, double bow knots, etc., etc...love it.

ethereal_reality Jul 18, 2014 10:46 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/e4e451.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/9992a2.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/902/2d3a18.jpg

ebay.
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Godzilla Jul 18, 2014 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6660724)



Interesting address. Currently a nondescript Mini Mall. Not sure how it originally may have looked. It was once host to the "Executive Room," pictured below from the late '70s.

Billie Joel might be familiar with it. ;) http://www.popspotsnyc.com/billy_joel_piano_man/



http://www.popspotsnyc.com/billy_joe...nne_Laskey.jpghttp://www.popspotsnyc.com/billy_joe...nne_Laskey.jpg

ethereal_reality Jul 18, 2014 11:21 PM

-guns drawn at the Upland CA Police Department.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/536/c11ff4.jpg
ebay


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ethereal_reality Jul 18, 2014 11:26 PM

A 'western' rehearsal at the Hollywood Bowl in the 1950s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...909/244417.jpg
ebay

-red drapes? chandelier? I think it's decked out like a saloon.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/cac898.jpg
ebay

Is that a boy scout's head?
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Albany NY Jul 19, 2014 12:57 AM

Maybe Try Opera?
 
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HossC Jul 19, 2014 1:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6660724)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6660758)

Interesting address. Currently a nondescript Mini Mall. Not sure how it originally may have looked. It was once host to the "Executive Room," pictured below from the late '70s.


Ham and Eggs Incorporated at 3953 Wilshire Boulevard, seen here in a circa 1937 photograph by Herman Schultheis. They even had the chicken chasing the pig on the sign. It looks like the same building as the Executive Room posted by Godzilla.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...HamAndEggs.jpg
LAPL

The building can be seen on the left of this 1936 shot of Perino's. Morgan at 3951 Wilshire was a florist.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LAPerinos2.jpg
USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2014 1:32 AM

:previous: Great additional information on Ham & Eggs Incorporated Godzilla and HossC.

Did you notice the pig hatching from the egg?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...539/47685f.jpg
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Mstimc Jul 19, 2014 1:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6659861)
Here's the clock in Fullerton. There's some history about its original location, its move across the street and its restoration here. While playing around with the new version of Google Maps for the post above, I found that the clock's neon can be seen illuminated in some of the 2007 historic Street View images. Sadly, the image quality isn't as good as the newer ones.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ertonClock.jpg http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rtonClock2.jpg
GSV

Thanks for the photos, Hoss! I grew up and still live in that area and had many a watch battery replaced at Alexander's, next to the clock. I'd love to get some interior pictures of the store--it was a true throwback to the 1920's right up to the day it closed.

Mstimc Jul 19, 2014 1:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albany NY (Post 6660866)
.

Bet you're right about the opera, Albany. I'm guessing Copland--maybe Rodeo or Billy the Kid?

ConstructDTLA Jul 19, 2014 1:37 AM

As an update on the old LA Times plot here is what it looked like this afternoon:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3883/...5c0739e5_b.jpgView from City Hall July 18th 2014 by Hunter DTLA, on Flickr

Compared to June 26th
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3840/...e98d95a7_b.jpgDowntown Skyline by Hunter DTLA, on Flickr


And my album from within the construction site on June 29th
https://www.flickr.com/photos/hunter...7645383103896/

ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2014 2:32 AM

:previous: Thanks for the update DTLAdenizen. -much appreciated.
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I've been trying to find out if this Christian Science reading room still stands. I find the odd shaped entrance quite interesting.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/ed6d61.jpg
side-note: Why does the Second Church of Christ Scientist in the background appear to be half-drawn? Was it shrouded in smog
and they were trying to sketch it in?


-after saving this view, I think I need to go back and aim further to the right.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/745/9c8b2f.jpg
GSV

By coincidence, the reading room is/was located between the great domed church and Casa De Rosas which HossC revisited a couple of days ago
here.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=22573
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ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2014 2:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 6660904)
Bet you're right about the opera, Albany. I'm guessing Copland--maybe Rodeo or Billy the Kid?

My first guess was Copland as well. Maybe someone can dig up some old programs from the 1950s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...909/244417.jpg

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ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2014 3:18 AM

batteries in a leather pouch.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/63870d.jpgebay

Culver City police, 1932.
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sadykadie2 Jul 19, 2014 6:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonny☼LA (Post 6659742)
ER said he wanted to get inside - totally worth it! Now known as the MacArthur Park Recreation Center, the old Westlake Signal Office is a popular place these days with its own Zumba and aerobics schedule.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...pse0f81524.jpg

I didn't think the room would be recognizable but it was pretty obvious when I found the gym.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psde10e301.jpg

Great space with big arched windows overlooking the park on the wall to the left of the photographer of the vintage photo.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...ps00f8de43.jpg

It's been reconfigured a bit, I think - as I'm not sure how the walls jibe with where I was standing. Behind me is a glassed-in desk like a roller rink and next to that is a hallway so it's pretty different from the wall of windows in the old picture. Or it's an adjacent room with the same ceiling that I couldn't access but I doubt there was enough room for that in there.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psa6ef7b9f.jpg
All photos by me

Excuse some of the image quality as I'm always playing with old film and older cameras.

I have so many of these from around town on my Flickr page and waiting to be developed - if people are interested, I can post more. This thread is totally invaluable for subject matter while I fumble with vintage cameras. Obscure landmarks and idiosyncratic mechanisms are a fun combination. I'm amazed I get anything back sometimes. :uhh:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/30811353@N04/

Dang, Sonny, your flickr page is AMAZING!:yes:

HossC Jul 19, 2014 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6660958)

I've been trying to find out if this Christian Science reading room still stands. I find the odd shaped entrance quite interesting.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/ed6d61.jpg
side-note: Why does the Second Church of Christ Scientist in the background appear to be half-drawn? Was it shrouded in smog?

It's still there on Hoover Street, although it's now the Art of Living Center. The sidewalk is now a lot closer, which appears to be the result of Hoover being widened in the 1970s (based on studying the images on Historic Aerials).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tOfLiving2.jpg
GSV

This view from across the street is the closest I could get to the original image. It was taken about five years earlier, and I noticed a different sign above the window which was too blurry to make out.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tOfLiving1.jpg
GSV

That meant that I had to curse and switch to the new Google Maps again to use the historic Street View function. There was a "For Sale" sign outside in February 2009, and the sign over the window looks very like the "Christian Science Reading Room" sign from e_r's picture.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tOfLiving3.jpg
GSV

The view from the old Christian Science Reading Room isn't bad either. These houses, which GW posted in 2010, are directly across the street. The full post can be found here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5088199)

And, farther south:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061551.jpgLAPL http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061551.jpg
The Alfred J. Salisbury house at 2703 S. Hoover.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TM...72545%20AM.jpgGoogle Street View

Across 27th Street from the Salisbury house is the Cockins house by the same architects (Bradbeer and Ferris), at 2653 S. Hoover:
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061849.jpgLAPL http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061849.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...23926%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View

Another view of the Salisbury house taken circa 1978. I wonder how long the owners allowed "Historic House Tours"?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...verHouses5.jpg
LAPL

And a front view of the Cockins house circa 1966.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...verHouses3.jpg
California State Library

Martin Pal Jul 19, 2014 7:33 PM

It took me awhile to realize where this photo was taken. The angles and depth of focus give it an unusual perspective. No one standing at that spot would ever remember the Hollywood Hills in the distance being that close, nor the building labeled Max Factor (at that time) appearing so close and prominent.

The photo is taken about one block east of Hollywood and Vine, looking west. You can, of course, pick out the noted building marquees of the Taft and the Broadway Dept. Store (separated by Vine Street) on the left and a slice of the American Airlines sign on the right with the Security Pacific sign on the rooftop seeming to be just above that, but is actually several blocks down at Cahuenga. Underneath the traffic light, the white building/billboard is all the way down at La Brea!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6660481)

This photo reminds me of the "poetry" signs in West Hollywood that were installed several years ago.

http://www.wehoville.com/wp-content/...not1way_RO.jpg

This article about them, from 2012, says they were installed in 2010, but I could've sworn they were here earlier than that.

http://www.wehoville.com/2012/11/17/...d-around-weho/

A list of them:
http://www.weho.org/home/showdocument?id=5542

City Info:
http://www.weho.org/residents/arts-a.../rebecca-lowry

ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2014 8:05 PM

Does anyone know where the Los Angeles Municipal Dump was located in 1936?

I'm asking because of this interesting photograph I found in an old file of mine.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/536/072566.jpg
old file/

above: In this 1936 view we're looking out through the municipal dump gate towards a busy street. (possibly Washington Blvd?)






Here's a closer look at the attractive building across the street from the dump.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/743/8a073d.jpg

I'd like to know if that building still stands. (I can make out "motors truck co." but nothing else)

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edit:

I just found this photograph looking towards the dump. (but USC didn't include the location or year)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/fcb1ba.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/4837/rec/1

-note the curve in the road.


-here's a good look at the sign.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/402c7e.jpg
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HossC Jul 19, 2014 8:58 PM

:previous:

The first picture is definitely East Washington Boulevard because it shows the General Motors Truck Co at 1850 East Washington Boulevard. The picture below was taken in 1931, but it's the same building.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...cipalDump1.jpg
USC Digital Library

The image above is part of a four-picture photoset looking each way at the intersection of East Washington and S Alameda. The truck in the image below is roughly where the dump entrance would be a few years later. The sign is for the Blue Diamond Corp which is listed at 1650 S Alameda (a couple of blocks north) in the 1932 CD. They were in the building materials and supplies business, so it's possible this was their yard just south of their office.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...cipalDump2.jpg
Detail of picture at USC Digital Library

This picture is from 1961, but shows the curved street in the second of e_r's pictures. East Washington Boulevard is the short street nearly halfway down the left hand side. It crosses Alameda and then sharply curves around the dump. East Washington Boulevard now continues straight across the old dump site.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...cipalDump3.jpg
Detail of picture at USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2014 9:03 PM

:previous: Excellent informationHossC! I love that aerial....now I understand the lay-out of the area.
-thanks so much.
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ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2014 9:13 PM

I don't believe we've seen Koster and Barlow's Imperial Cafe on NLA.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...674/29d862.jpgebay

It was a looooong restaurant!. Enter on Spring St. and exit on Broadway...or vice versa. :)
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HossC Jul 19, 2014 9:52 PM

While we're talking about the dump and the curved road, it seemed like an appropriate time to post this. The description says "Car of drunk driver which missed curve on Washington Boulevard east of Alameda and crashed into city dump." It's dated 1951.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...h.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

I also found that USC have a set of five photos showing the Blue Diamond Corp yard in 1931. For anyone who's interested, you can find it here.

ethereal_reality Jul 19, 2014 10:22 PM

:previous: He must have been three sheets. (OK, I just looked at the aerial again. The curve was pretty sharp)


While I was searching for the municipal dump I came across this photograph from 1960.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/674/9957a0.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=64292

View of the ravine behind Lincoln High School which the city plans to use as a dump.
School Principal says "more space for an athletic facility is needed rather than a dump which would eliminate
our cross-country course (white arrows)."

Does anyone know...did the city go head with their plan?
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HossC Jul 20, 2014 12:00 AM

:previous:

I tried to duplicate the view with Google Earth. It's no guarantee that the ravine wasn't used as a dump, but the profile of the ravine sides looks the same to me. I can't see any sign of the cross-country course, so I guess the school now uses a different route.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...HighRavine.jpg
Google Earth

ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2014 12:18 AM

:previous: HossC, the ravine's dimensions look about the same as the 1960 photograph (except for the trees obviously).
I'd say the city decided against a dump at this site that was so close to a public school.



Here's another image I stumbled across at LAPL while searching for the municipal dump. Andy Gump's Dump.(that's him on the sign)

first posted by rcarlton back in 2012.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/908/2aa63a.jpg
I thought it wouldn't hurt to see it again. :)


-obviously the owner named his cafe after the highly successful comic strip...created in 1917.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/907/ad73dc.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gumps

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/912/e3d7f4.jpg
kenlevine.blog

After 50 animated shorts (1920-21) distributed by Paramount, Andy Gump and his family starred in two-reel comedies (1923 to 1928)
produced by Universal Pictures.

Here's actors Fay Tincher (as Min), Joe Murphy (as Andy Gump) and Jackie Morgan (as Chester).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/3bd450.jpg
http://www.younghollywoodhof.com/jackiemorganmuseum.htm

Fay Tincher somewhat resembles Mary Astor in this photograph.

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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 2:14 AM

Anyone remember Nixon's Family Restaurants?

http://www.afoodbank.org/NewsAndEven...240&h=180&as=1http://www.afoodbank.org/NewsAndEven...240&h=180&as=1


http://victualling.files.wordpress.c...pg?w=500&h=312http://victualling.files.wordpress.c...pg?w=500&h=312


https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7166/6...0c78ce635d.jpghttps://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7166/6...0c78ce635d.jpg




Quote:

Nixon's Family Restaurant was owned and operated by Francis Donald Nixon, known as Donald, the young brother of President Richard M. Nixon. Donald eventually owned five restaurants, including this restaurant and a drive-thru burger stand in Whittier.

Quote:

In January 1957 Howard Hughes lent Donald Nixon $205,000 to bail out his "Nixon's" drive-in restaurant in Whittier, California. The restaurant went bankrupt less than a year later. Questions about whether this was a political favor dogged Richard Nixon during his campaign for president and later when he sought the governorship of California. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Nixon


1955
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...circa_1955.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...circa_1955.jpg



A kilt?
http://victualling.files.wordpress.c...rrev.jpg?w=500http://victualling.files.wordpress.c...rrev.jpg?w=500


1957
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1957 - Looks like Disney had some competition.
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http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0


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http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0




http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/63276/rec/9





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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 2:29 AM

Y C Hong and his Hupmobile

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6507163)
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Looks like Y. C. Hong was a lawyer who in 1932 lived at 1045 S Gramercy in the Country Club District (as in the former LACC). The houses in the background don't match that address, however. Neither do any of the houses in the background match what appears to be his 1927-30 address, 533 East 33rd St. He was working as an interpreter for the US Immigration Service in 1927.

Turns out he was a civic leader with a very impressive résumé, including work as a developer of the new Chinatown:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Chung_Hong

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In a shot similar to the one of his father with Hupmobile, here's Y.C.'s son Nowland with his '49 Ford and his brother Roger:

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Mabel Hong--Mrs. Y. C.--in the back yard of 1045 S Gramercy, which is the not the house in the background... 1045 is at left in the GSV. (No indication which of the three ladies is Mrs. Hong.)

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The C47 was purchased by the U. S. Treasury Department using money raised in the Los Angeles Chinese American community. Y. C. Hong served as chair for the Chinatown war finance committee.
July 1945
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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 2:41 AM

Fruit crate labels

Washington Navels (Received as budwood from another Washington navel tree, Riverside, Calif., 1918) ✔

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CityBoyDoug Jul 20, 2014 2:44 AM

I remember people talking about the scandal but I was too young to understand it.

The car in these photos is a 1957 Oldsmobile . The exhaust is fitted into the bumper which denotes its a 98 model [?] The white sidewall tires are odd, as they usually came from the factory with whites. It still looks hot after 50 years.


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GM ad files

Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 2:59 AM

Western Air Express dedication, Alhambra. April 17, 1930.

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Bob's Airmail, the early years?
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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 3:07 AM

A dry run before the big opening?


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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 4:25 AM


The X Olympiad, 1932 - A glimpse behind the scenes.



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Opening ceremony which was held in Olympic Stadium, with 105,000 persons in attendance

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Olympic Village Admin Buildings. Also the entrance.

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Pleasant Dreams
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Olympic Village Mess Halls
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Call letters of the short wave sending and receiving station which is located at Olympic Village. Messages are sent free of charge to all foreign countries for the athletes housed at the Village.
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Printed plan of the Olympic Village in Los Angeles with each of the houses numbered and the public toilets and bath houses labeled.

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The water supply system is next. The pump house can be seen in the foreground with four 11,000 gal. tanks. Two 6" centrifical pumps were used to maintain a constant pressure of 40 lbs. on the lines. This water was lifted by a 6" centrifical pump on a 75 h.p. motor which was located at a distance of 32,000' from these tanks and 137' below this elevation
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Olympic Village parking
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6661565)

Since you're interested in refuse, ever wonder what became of the '32 Olympic Village waste?


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A view of the waste disposal system employed at the Olympic Village in Los Angeles. There is a heap of burning garbage on the left, piles of cans and bins in the center, and wooden barrels and crates on the right.
Olympic debris 1932
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OLympic dismantle
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A view of the beginning of the deconstructing of the Olympic Village in Los Angeles. A group of men are working around a truck which has been loaded with the still-assembled walls of one of the buildings. There are long rows of houses still awaiting disassembly in the right and in the background."]A view of the beginning of the deconstructing of the Olympic Village in Los Angeles. A group of men are working around a truck which has been loaded with the still-assembled walls of one of the buildings. There are long rows of houses still awaiting disassembly in the right and in the background.
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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 4:39 AM

Truth in advertising? :no:


I laugh every time I look at these CC Pierce photos. Notice the similarities. And then there is the crowd that never looks up. :koko:

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Where are the strippers?
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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 4:57 AM

Friends gather round, I'd like to introduce you to the revolutionary FloCo Engine. http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/3981/rec/116



1928 - Glendale Airport
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1926 Siemens Tri Plane at Burdette Field - 9401 S. Western Avenue at the intersection of 94th Street and Western Avenue in what is now Inglewood

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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 6:03 AM

One of the more pronounced participants in LA's 1910 Air Meet, LA resident, Professor Jerome Slough Zerbe (1849-1921). 256 S Spring Street, Rm 252 and 522 Stimson Building. (Per 1911 CD) A professor of ?? Author of "Electricity for Boys" (1914), "Practical Mechanics for Boys" (1914), "Carpentry for Boys" and "Aeroplanes".


Clearly the vanguard of aeronautical design.
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Open the throttle smoothly. . .
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Back to the drawing board.
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sadykadie2 Jul 20, 2014 6:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6661614)
:previous:

The first picture is definitely East Washington Boulevard because it shows the General Motors Truck Co at 1850 East Washington Boulevard. The picture below was taken in 1931, but it's the same building.

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The image above is part of a four-picture photoset looking each way at the intersection of East Washington and S Alameda. The truck in the image below is roughly where the dump entrance would be a few years later. The sign is for the Blue Diamond Corp which is listed at 1650 S Alameda (a couple of blocks north) in the 1932 CD. They were in the building materials and supplies business, so it's possible this was their yard just south of their office.

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This picture is from 1961, but shows the curved street in the second of e_r's pictures. East Washington Boulevard is the short street nearly halfway down the left hand side. It crosses Alameda and then sharply curves around the dump. East Washington Boulevard now continues straight across the old dump site.

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You know, the top picture looks a bit earlier than 31'. If you go to the site and magnify it, the woman's clothes are definitely late 20's and the cars seem earlier, too. What do you guys think?:shrug::shrug:

sadykadie2 Jul 20, 2014 6:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6661908)

The X Olympiad, 1932 - A glimpse behind the scenes.



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Opening ceremony which was held in Olympic Stadium, with 105,000 persons in attendance

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Olympic Village Admin Buildings. Also the entrance.

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Call letters of the short wave sending and receiving station which is located at Olympic Village. Messages are sent free of charge to all foreign countries for the athletes housed at the Village.
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Printed plan of the Olympic Village in Los Angeles with each of the houses numbered and the public toilets and bath houses labeled.

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Olympic Village parking
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Since you're interested in refuse, ever wonder what became of the '32 Olympic Villiage waste?




Olympic debris 1932
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OLympic dismantle

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FANTASTIC set of photos, Tourmaline! Especially the waste, really getting down to the nitty gritty:tup:

CityBoyDoug Jul 20, 2014 7:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6661908)

The X Olympiad, 1932 - A glimpse behind the scenes.

All from http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...id/8991/rec/63

Very interesting post.
I heard that many of the cabins were sold to private citizens and later used as vacation homes at the beach and mountains.

I wonder what the food was like...other than the often sited Helms Bakery goods.


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HossC Jul 20, 2014 10:02 AM

:previous:

Last week, when we were looking for e_r's milk bottle on the roof near Slauson, I found that Arden Farms supplied the milk and other "protected products" to the Olympic athletes (full post here). I wonder what was included in the list of protected products?

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That's milk, bread and probably cheese covered - who supplied the rest of the food?

Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 3:34 PM

These photos are clearly supplemental to many other '32 Olympics posts, e.g., Flyingwedge's posthttp://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=19441




Not unlike various "World's Fairs" the 10th O administrators and local movers and shakers did their best to promote LA's athlete accommodations as being state-of-the-art. There is also the suggestion that "special" accommodations were made for foreign athletes' customary meals and other needs. The truth is probably somewhere in between, especially considering a worldwide economic Depression. Since everyone was suffering (economically) there were probably very few complaints.

Most mess hall photos suggest they were communal, yet pictures labeled "Japanese Mess Hall" may suggest some teams were segregated from each other. Whether this also included a special diet is unclear. One might guess that most foreign palates could have been satisfied due to the fair number of immigrants in the LA area. Recall previously posted photos of athletes in traditional Indian garb.


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Note outside shower facilities. Did all athletes read Anglais? Maybe "athlete's foot" needs no translation. :rolleyes:
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A view of the interior of the Japanese mess hall in the Olympic Village in Los Angeles. Five Asian men are sitting or standing among tables on the left, with a man in a suit on the far left and another man in the background. A large window opening onto the kitchen is along the wall on the left.
"Japanese Mess hall interior" or Japanese in a communal mess hall?
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HossC's food suppliers query reminded me of stories I heard from a few '32 Olympiad attendees. One spoke of his introduction to exotic foods including something that may have actually been Velveeta. A little digging reveals that Kraft introduced Velveeta in '28. Whether it was sold in LA? One source suggests by the late '30s it became wildly popular in Germany. With all of LA's strange theme structures-eateries in the '20s and '30s, athletes and foreign press must have seen may bizarre sights that gave birth to equally strange rumors of LA-CA-US life.

Just as Saratoga Springs is the reputed birthplace of potato chips, local lore has it that many foods originated in LA. 1906 - French Dip (Cole's or Philippe's)? 1964 Disneyland and Doritos? Reddi-Whip?


SOME Culinary Invention Claims From the L.A. Area

The French Dip Sandwich - by Phillipe Mathieu (Phillipe Restaurant, L.A., 1918)
The Cheeseburger - Lionel Sternberger (Rite Spot Restaurant, Pasadena, 1924)
The Hot Fudge Sundae - at C.C. Brown's (Hollywood)
The Shirley Temple & the Cobb Salad - at L.A.'s Original Brown Derby (Hollywood)


The History of Eating Out in Los Angeles

Origins of SOME Local Food Empires
1926 - Orange Julius, Julius Freed, Los Angeles
1941 - Carl's Hot Dog Stand (Carl's Jr.), Carl Karcher, Los Angeles
1948 - In-N-Out, Harry Snyder, Baldwin Park
1948 - Winchell's Donuts, Verne Winchell, Temple City
1952 - Fatburger, Lovie Yancey, Los Angeles
1958 - IHOP, Al Lapin, Toluca Lake
1958 - Sizzler, Culver City
1961 - Wienerschnitzel, John Galardi, Long Beach,
1962 - Taco Bell, Glen Bell, Downey
1972 - The Cheesecake Factory, David Overton, Los Angeles
1972 - Gladstone's 4-Fish, Robert Morris, Malibu
1982 - Islands, Tony DeGrazier, West Lost Angeles
1983 - Panda Express, Ming-Tsai Cherng and son, Andrew Cherng, Pasadena

:previous: Lists from http://www.laalmanac.com/history/hi08r.htm


What, no Tom's # 49, Ca. Pizza Kitchen and W. Puck spinoffs? :uhh:

BifRayRock Jul 20, 2014 6:13 PM

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Highland Park Bridge at Garvanza (or is it Garvanzo?) http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/7564/rec/128


1885
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BifRayRock Jul 20, 2014 6:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 4838564)
Amazing stuff. I've also always liked that area and how 5th split to run up Hope. And the Engstrum! It's always been a favorite of mine as well, I think because it hung on so long. I'm gonna throw some more Engstrum out there:

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Here's a couple from my personal collection.

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1919. Looking south at the tower of the State Normal School, and the Bible Institue (AKA Church of the Open Door) behind. To the left is the Knickerbocker Building which still stands, sort of, down at Olive near 7th.

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This one I love. That's one happy guy. I especially like that it's taken from the back of the Engstrum, which makes it an even more unusual image. Over his shoulder is the Briggs at 407 S Hope; behind the Briggs is the Hildreth.

Here's some stuff about the Engstrum that I think makes fascinating reading. The idea that we could have one remaining Bunker Hill hotel enchants me. Especially since it was apparently in good hands.

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Engstrom has received a lot of NLA attention. More Engstrom trivia, it had a "bridge" connecting it with the building next door. (Or was it an above-ground tunnel?)


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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 6:45 PM

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:previous:

Last week, when we were looking for e_r's milk bottle on the roof near Slauson, I found that Arden Farms supplied the milk and other "protected products" to the Olympic athletes (full post here). I wonder what was included in the list of protected products?

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That's milk, bread and probably cheese covered - who supplied the rest of the food?



HossC, got milk? :haha:

50 pages worth!
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And when you're through with dairy, here is a 225-page assortment of strange uncaptioned images: http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...d/9240/rec/229

Mobile Zanja?
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Martin Pal Jul 20, 2014 6:55 PM

Fantastic Olympic post, Tourmaline, I enjoyed it! (Twice, actually ;) )

Taking note of the Olympic Village and talk about the food, here’s a note from Frank Wykoff, medal winner in the 1932 games, interviewed by the Herald-Examiner in 1972:

Until 1932, teams arrived almost without notice in the city of the competition, were housed privately in boarding facilities, trained on their own, secretly, were transported privately to the various arenas, and customarily, were sent home as soon as their individual events were completed.

"All that ended in Los Angeles," Wykoff said. "Every night at the village, prominent motion picture stars arrived and put on gigantic shows for us all. It was interesting to see the different foods served to foreign athletes and it was surprising, to me, at least, to watch Frenchmen drinking wine with their meals. When you left the village for any reason, there were always big crowds outside, seeking autographs, which were a big thing to us.”


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I’ve always liked this 3-D appearing poster from the 1932 Olympics:
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Promotional photo for the 1932 Olympic Games.
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Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce Collection, Los Angeles Public Library

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Photo from a book written in German - "Olympia 1932".
publisher REEMTSMA CIGARETTENFABRIKEN; Altona-Bahrenfeld

Downtown Los Angeles decorated as the Olympic City in 1932.
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LA84 Foundation

Pacific Coast Highway hosted the cycling road race in 1932 Olympics.
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In 1932, the Auto Club posted signs to major Olympic venues as an aid to motorists. No word on who the young lady might be.
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Automobile Club of Southern California Archives

When oil wells were thought of as decorative.
Olympic rowing competition in Long Beach's Marine Stadium.
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One from 1984: At the Opening ceremony in the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, a week away from being 30 years ago. http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...FlagStunta.jpg
LA84 Foundation

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HossC Jul 20, 2014 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 6662239)

Engstrom has received a lot of NLA attention. More Engstrom trivia, it had a "bridge" connecting it with the building next door. (Or was it an above-ground tunnel?)

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That bridge actually linked the Edison Building to its annex behind the Engstrum. It can be seen more clearly in this HDL picture posted by Flyingwedge a few months ago.

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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2014 7:06 PM

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I agree. I like the Nose Art photo!



There's a lot of that going around lately. :)

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HossC Jul 20, 2014 7:41 PM

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Culinary Invention Claims From the L.A. Area
The French Dip Sandwich - by Phillipe Mathieu (Phillipe Restaurant, L.A., 1918)
The Cheeseburger - Lionel Sternberger (Rite Spot Restaurant, Pasadena, 1924)
The Hot Fudge Sundae - at C.C. Brown's (Hollywood)
The Shirley Temple & the Cobb Salad - at L.A.'s Original Brown Derby (Hollywood)

I've also seen claims that the Margarita cocktail was invented by Johnny Durlesser while he was head bartender at the Tail o' the Cock restaurant. He's obviously in a long line of claimants, some of whom can be found here.

Godzilla Jul 20, 2014 7:51 PM

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One of the more pronounced participants in LA's 1910 Air Meet, LA resident, Professor Jerome Slough Zerbe (1849-1921). 256 S Spring Street, Rm 252 and 522 Stimson Building. (Per 1911 CD) A professor of ?? Author of "Electricity for Boys" (1914), "Practical Mechanics for Boys" (1914), "Carpentry for Boys" and "Aeroplanes".


Clearly the vanguard of aeronautical design.
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Form does not always follow function? If Prof. Zerbe hadn't died so early I would like to have asked his opinion regarding goat glands. Some scoffed at Drs. Wheeler and Brinkley! But not Harry Chandler. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13309



1896 - Chandler residence, 503 N Broadway
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But will it fly ? Skepticism? :no:

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Harry Chandler receives honorary degree

1933
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1934 - From the roof of the Times
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