And we know that you can't put a bunch of affordable units together in one place because they end up having the same problems like we've seen with housing projects. They need mixed income and market rates interdispersed with the affordable units. They also need to make it true mixed use including office, retail and entertainment, otherwise it'll just be a sterile bedroom community that only residents go back to at night.
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I think you are somehow mistaking low income housing with affordable housing. They are not one in the same, but I agree on a mix, which is what would happen here. But de Blasio isn't talking about building "Manhattan scale" towers across the city's neighborhoods. He's saying that buildings would be "larger" than what you would normally see or expect in some areas. If that means a 15-story building instead of a 5-story buidling, then so be it. The city is growing, and people have to be put somewhere. There's a reason land is so precious in the city, and that's because there isn't more of it coming. What you have is what you get. Unlike the rivers and oceans that surround it, there are limits to how far the city can expand. Unless, of course, that expansion is up. People are always quick to jump into the conversation to tell you how things won't and shouldn't be done. But the fact is, nothing will ever get done without the conversation first. The west side of Manhattan and the railyards there are developing nicely. Is it the plan the Bloomberg originally envisioned? No, it isn't. But it was Bloomberg's initiatives that got us where we are today, despite the many critics of that plan. The mayor is right to push for a plan (the specifics can come later) to put those unused air rights - that will sit there forever - on the table, especially with his push for more affordable housing. Whatever else is built along with the affordable housing is on the table. http://observer.com/2015/02/de-blasi...ards-proposal/ De Blasio Thinks There’s a ‘Way Forward’ for Sunnyside Yards Proposal By Jillian Jorgensen 02/04/15 Quote:
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11,000 units of affordable housing vs 9,000 units of affordable housing, both numbers neither final nor far off from each other. It's not the Cuomo's idea is very different from de Blasio's. But Cuomo's plan would be a convention center that happens to have the affordable unit component to it, while de Blasio focuses on the affordable housing idea (along with whatever else it takes to get that built). The difference is in how the two men see their legacy. (de Blasio wants to be a champion of making the city more affordable for New Yorkers, Cuomo wants a more centrist image.
Cuomo doesn't want de Blasio stealing his thunder, but he has to realize that while the city has its limits, the state does as well, and the Sunnyside yards is just that case where the city has more sway. I don't see how the two ideas are that much different, but the governor's ego is such that he couldn't even wait a full day to try and downplay the city's idea. http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...unnyside-yards Mayor to guv: 'Plenty of room' at Sunnyside Yards http://www.crainsnewyork.com/apps/pb...20150204134935 ANDREW J. HAWKINS FEBRUARY 4, 2015 Quote:
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Related CEO Jeffrey Blau has an ambitious project at Hudson Yards, but he’s also overhauling CitiBike and taking on Willets Point
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Good news! Hopefully a re-zoning is successful. Just glad that the days are numbered for that hot garbage.
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Poor people should move to Poughkepsie. There's no birthright to live in Manhattan.
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People who work in bagel shops live in the Bronx, Queens, SI, etc. -- not Manhattan. I work in Manhattan too, but I don't live there and haven't for many years.
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Here's a question that's been on my mind for a while:
What's going to become of the highly trafficked curbside bus terminals,namely BoltBus and Megabus based on 33rd and 34th street? They're pretty bare bones, essentially just long lines catered by a few food carts, but I'm sure thousands of people go through there daily. I can't picture them continuing to route doubledecker buses through what will eventually be a residential neighborhood. Will they finally construct a physical terminal somewhere else? Thoughts, insights or opinions? |
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