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Noircitydame Jan 27, 2016 4:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7313663)
I haven't adjusted the colors of this Julius Shulman photoset, but they look a little off to me. The pictures show the interior of an unidentified branch of California Bank in 1956. It's "Job 2231: Flewelling and Moody, California Bank (Los Angeles, Calif.),1956 ".
NB. the set also includes two black & white shots with the same views.

The second picture is the key to finding the location. The building opposite, combined with the number over the doors, tells us we're at 608 S Grand Avenue. Here's a current view of the building across the street, now the Milano Lofts.

608 S. Grand: Security Title Insurance Building (Walker & Eisen). Opened Aug 1, 1927.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...th%20grand.jpg CSL

1952 view:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...952%20lapl.jpg LAPL

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...lle/8-1-27.jpg 8-1-27 lat


609 S. Grand: originally the Edwards-Wildey Building (also Walker & Eisen).
Renamed the "609 South Grand Building" 1936, National Oil Building in 1950. It replaced an older brick building on the site.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...le/2-17-24.jpg 2-17-1924 lat

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...9sgrandcsl.jpg CSL

Flyingwedge Jan 27, 2016 8:52 AM

West side of 200 Block of South Bunker Hill Avenue
 
These will mostly be photos of 221 through 251 South Bunker Hill Avenue.

The 1884 LA City Directory was the first to show addresses on this block of Bunker Hill Avenue. Before, the
listing was something like, "Bunker Hill Avenue between 2nd and 3rd." The 1884 LACD shows George M. Holton
(1845-1919) at at 123 S. Bunker Hill. He was an attorney; he was also Los Angeles County District Attorney
from 1885-86 and Chief Deputy District Attorney from 1895-99. His first wife, Corneliae, died in 1892, and
by 1901 so had three of their four children, including 17-year-old Dane Mortimer. The 1920 City Directory
still lists Holton at the same house on S. Bunker Hill Avenue, by then renumbered 227.

Newspaper articles place Holton on S. Bunker Hill Avenue (presumably in the same house) in 1882. Holton
was the only person I could locate in limited searching on this block of SBH in the "pre-address era" and
in 1884 or later. [UPDATE: Frederick W. Sparr is listed at 117/221 SBH in the 1888 LA City Directory and
at "SBH near 3rd" as early as 1883].

Here's the 1888 Sanborn Map, showing 123 S. Bunker Hill Avenue and some of its neighbors. I wonder if 131
was really between 127 and 129? The writing on the unique shape at left says, "BR [brick] Foundation for D
[Dwelling] Work Abandoned at Present." The rectangle behind the foundation is a shed, and the empty lot to
the left/south is on the NW corner of South Bunker Hill Avenue and 3rd Street:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...c.jpg~original
LA Public Library

This is the 1950 Sanborn Map. Like its neighbors, 123 SBH has been remodeled and renumbered:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original
LA Public Library

This c. 1890 photo looks SW at what would eventually become (from left to right) 245 (partial), 241, and
237-39 SBH. The porch over the front door of 241 isn't on the 1888 Sanborn, nor is the addition in the rear
of 237-39. However, both are on the 1894 Sanborn, so perhaps this photo really is c. 1890-94. Can anyone
identify the structure in the distance to the right of 237-239 SBH? It almost looks like a trestle. Also, there
appears to be a street above the mystery structure, but I cannot identify that either:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original
00060250 @ LA Public Library

This photo of 237-39 SBH is undated, but it may be c. 1956:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original
00026497 @ LA Public Library

Here are 237-39 (nice woodwork on the front porch!) and next door at 231 the Earlcliff Hotel in July 1957.
The Earlcliff went up sometime between 1894 and 1906:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...m.jpg~original
00026635 @ LA Public Library

Here's a better look at the Earlcliff c. 1955:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...d.jpg~original
00091465 @ LA Public Library

North of the Earlcliff was the old Holton house, 123/227 SBH. This is how it appeared on June 12, 1961,
with a bit of the Earlcliff on the left:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...g.jpg~original
411271 @ Huntington Digital Library

Looking at the houses north of 227, we see 221 and its brownish roof, just a tiny bit of 211-217, followed by
209 with its dark green roof, then 203 SBH. The yellow fire hydrant is on the SW corner of South Bunker Hill
and 2nd Street; we can see just a little of 145 SBH beyond that. Thanks to GW for including the caption,
which jogged my memory about having seen Frederick W. Sparr in the city directories at 117/221 SBH:
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6556965)
http://i.imgur.com/Fnm3Z9X.jpg?1?8138HDL
Great photo caption: "This is 221 South Bunker Hill Avenue. Built between 1888 and 1894. Attributed to Frederick Sparr or Judge Halton. The Mattachine Society was in part born here in 1953; it was where Tony Reyes and Don Slater lived. Demolished circa 1963." Also love the "Coming or Going" Studebaker and the gold bathtub Packard. Just a great picture--dated Apr 20, 1957.

This is a c. 1950 view of the rear half of the south side of 221 SBH:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...o.jpg~original
00026491 @ LA Public Library

Here are, from left to right, 251, 245, and 241 SBH in 1962 or 1964. I believe the gray car at left is a
1955 Austin:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original
408099 @ Huntington Digital Library

Here's a closer shot of 251 SBH, c. 1956:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...u.jpg~original
00026482 @ LA Public Library

Looking north on Hope Street on February 1, 1959, we see in the center the large, beige south side of
255-59 South Bunker Hill, on the NW corner of 3rd Street. The white, multi-storied structure behind it
is the Earlcliff, 231 SBH:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original
411340 @ Huntington Digital Library

This 1965 photo looks up at the rear of homes on South Bunker Hill Avenue. From left to right that's
237-39, 241, 245 (white), and 251:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...a.jpg~original
00026528 @ LA Public Library

This c. 1966 photo looks north on South Bunker Hill Avenue, with 251 SBH the first house on the left and the
Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in the distance:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...p.jpg~original
00026609 @ LA Public Library

By the time this photo was taken on June 10, 1966, 245 South Bunker Hill was the only house remaining on the
west side of the street:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original
408136 @ Huntington Digital Library

HossC Jan 27, 2016 10:39 AM

:previous:

Excellent round-up of the houses/apartments on the 200 block of S Bunker Hill Avenue, Flyingwedge. Here's an aerial view of most of them from a 1955 Goodyear blimp series which I've posted from before.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...e.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Here's the full picture from my previous post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6619501)


HossC Jan 27, 2016 12:33 PM

This is the Butler-Moody Drug Co in 1924. USC have it located at 11th and Western (due to that address being on the envelope), but the 1925 CD lists it at 1455 Crown Hill Avenue. There's a new building permit for that address dated 1924, but the actual permit isn't available online. There are three similar shots in the photoset.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

This part of Crown Hill Avenue is now W 3rd Street, and 1455 W 3rd Street, like 1455 Crown Hill Avenue, is on the corner of Witmer Street. That expains the awning saying "334 The Witmer 334" on the left and "Witmer Tailors" on the right of the drug store in the picture above. The dress shop at 332 Witmer Street belonged to Mrs Beulah Veit. Could the lovely brickwork of the drug store be hidden under the current façade of 1455 W 3rd Street?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

HossC Jan 27, 2016 1:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7314185)

This negative is for sale on eBay.

"Penny Edwards & Mayor Bowron June 25 Ribbon cutting ceremonies, ave. 57 & n. Fig."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/RLijr6.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PENNY-EDWARD...UAAOSwJkJWhucM

I'm not sure why they're cutting a ribbon at this location.

March 17, 1948

I can't help with the reason for the ribbon cutting, but the 1956 CD shows S H Kress & Co 5-10 & 25c Stores at 5715 N Figueroa Street. Here's that building today.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

Up until sometime around 2014, the building was Frank's Highland Park Camera store (the roof/blade sign can still be seen above). It looks like Frank's large second floor sign (below) may have preserved the windows seen in e_r's picture.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

GaylordWilshire Jan 27, 2016 3:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7314523)
This is the Butler-Moody Drug Co in 1924. USC have it located at 11th and Western (due to that address being on the envelope), but the 1925 CD lists it at 1455 Crown Hill Avenue. There's a new building permit for that address dated 1924, but the actual permit isn't available online. There are three similar shots in the photoset.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
USC Digital Library


A bit of crime at 1455 Crown Hill... from the Times, May 11, 1927:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K...2520AM.bmp.jpg

Tourmaline Jan 27, 2016 4:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7314546)
Up until sometime around 2014, the building was Frank's Highland Park Camera store (the roof/blade sign can still be seen above). It looks like Frank's large second floor sign (below) may have preserved the windows seen in e_r's picture.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV



http://www.czechreality.com/images/F...cPhoto-70C.jpghttp://www.czechreality.com/images/F...cPhoto-70C.jpg


The ubiquitous Vera, Frank, Jana and Milan. :)
http://www.frankscamera.com/images/IMAG0000.jpghttp://www.frankscamera.com/images/IMAG0000.jpg



https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7258/7...0e1cbc05_b.jpghttps://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7258/7...0e1cbc05_b.jpg


http://www.frankscamera.com/FranksCa...AP-NoHours.jpghttp://www.frankscamera.com/FranksCa...AP-NoHours.jpg

Tourmaline Jan 27, 2016 4:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7314447)
These will mostly be photos of 221 through 251 South Bunker Hill Avenue.


This c. 1966 photo looks north on South Bunker Hill Avenue, with 251 SBH the first house on the left and the
Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in the distance:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...p.jpg~original
00026609 @ LA Public Library

By the time this photo was taken on June 10, 1966, 245 South Bunker Hill was the only house remaining on the
west side of the street:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original
408136 @ Huntington Digital Library



Remarkable series of photos. Fascinating to see the "old" juxtaposed with the the "new." The overhead street lamp appears to be similar if not the same as so many that were installed some fifty years prior to the date of these circa '66 images. Can just imagine the garish illumination it provided to that part of the street supplemented by each residence's lighting. How wonderfully noirish.

ethereal_reality Jan 27, 2016 7:00 PM

:previous:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...903/mSkPk4.jpg

My father worked for the post office (rural mail delivery for 39 years!), so I couldn't help but notice the mail box attached to the utility pole.

still there in the color shot as well
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/orvu2C.jpg
detail


1947 (location unknown) -note the noirish looking cocktail lounge across the street.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...907/lKwu9E.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/smithsonian/2674301205/

I grew up in a rural community; our town didn't have this type of mail box.
__

Thanks for the fantastic post Flyingwedge.

GaylordWilshire Jan 27, 2016 7:14 PM

:previous:


They were common in cities....


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H...2520PM.bmp.jpg


PS Though the one seen here is a full-size model, I think this picture is great:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00116/00116305.jpgLAPL

Judging by the cars, this seems to be 1960, more or less; according to display ads in the Times around this time,
the Woodland Hills Branch was at 21620 Ventura Blvd.

Tourmaline Jan 27, 2016 7:25 PM

:previous: ER's very own Hotel Nugent post? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=10473




http://imageshack.us/a/img443/1100/a...tdetailang.jpg

ethereal_reality Jan 27, 2016 7:40 PM

:previous: I had forgotten about that photograph Tourmaline, and the earlier mail box discussion.
As you have no doubt noticed, I have a problem with my memory.




originally posted by Flyingwedge
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...912/xArLEz.jpg
Huntington Archives



below: Well this certainly looks like an accident waiting to happen, even the center line swerves a bit. (can you imagine a drunk driver approaching this at night)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/PLxILb.jpg
detail

Didn't realize it projected into the roadway to this degree.

_

HossC Jan 27, 2016 8:11 PM

Here's another Julius Shulman photoset with just a single picture. It's "Job 2734: Burke, Kober & Nicolais, Florsheim Shoes (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1959".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Getty Research Institute

The main clue to the location are the words "...ST SIXTH" above the entrance. A quick look through the CDs showed a branch of Florsheim Shoes at 408 W 6th Street. That's opposite Pershing Square, which explains the foliage in the foreground of the picture above. I believe this USC image is a little earlier, with Florsheim's store being just half the size.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

As we've seen before, the Consolidated Realty Building now looks a little different. Here's where Florsheim Shoes used to be.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
GSV

BifRayRock Jan 27, 2016 8:12 PM





Few of us are blessed with perfect memories.;)

Remembering, or at least agreeing on correct spelling, may have been Charles Ray's real problem. Was it Myles or Miles or Smiles Standish? :shrug:

From Jan. 1924 Photoplay. (Hard to believe over 92 years ago.)
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...psueq2xzaw.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=33199




CityBoyDoug Jan 27, 2016 8:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7315102)
:previous: I had forgotten about that photograph Tourmaline, and the earlier mail box discussion.
As you have no doubt noticed, I have a problem with my memory.
_

:previous:

ER: You've posted over 9,000 items on this thread. That's a lot more than I could remember...

City Boy Doug.

BifRayRock Jan 27, 2016 8:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5106035)
:previous:


http://www.silverlake.org/Architectu...no_Estate3.JPG
http://www.silverlake.org/Architectu...no_Estate3.JPG


ethereal-- your shots remind me of the Canfield-Moreno house, at the top of Micheltorena Street in those pictures. It has an interesting history, in addition to being L.A. HCM #391 and where Antonio Moreno and his wife Daisy Canfield moved after selling their Sycamore Avenue house to the Masquers. You can Google it--lots of info--and it's been used in various movies and tv shows. (I went through it once with a NY friend who knew a film person. At any moment I expected to hear a voice call out, "You there! Why are you so late? Why have you kept me waiting so long?" The atmospherics, architecture, and gardens made it seem as though it could easily have been used to film Sunset Boulevard.) I remember the huge basement kitchen as being original, as the rest of the house seemed to be. Anyway, what I didn't know was that, according to http://www.silverlake.org/Architectu...chitecture.htm, Moreno developed the area.


A few more shots:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics39/00039293.jpgLAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics39/00039293.jpg
At the top of the hill above is the Canfield-Moreno house below:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics23/00031421.jpgLAPL http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics23/00031421.jpg


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics22/00045872.jpgLAPL http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics22/00045872.jpg
Whoever said Chester Place shunned Hollywood? Estelle, Antonio, Ed, and Daisy: the Dohenys
and the Morenos.







Speaking of memories, it is interesting to revisit some of NLA's earlier posts.

Anyone remember Antonio "Tony" Moreno and his quaint cottage? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Moreno https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canfield-Moreno_Estate

The most beautiful Home in Hollywood (?) circa, January '24, Photoplay

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...u.jpg~originalhttp://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...i.jpg~original


Thomas Ince's little Beverly Hills' "Spanish hacienda," (featured in the same issue) probably did not receive the coveted :previous: designation because of the commercial signage in his back yard. :P
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...q.jpg~original




HossC Jan 27, 2016 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7315102)

below: Well this certainly looks like an accident waiting to happen, even the center line swerves a bit. (can you imagine a drunk driver approaching this at night)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/PLxILb.jpg
detail

Didn't realize it projected into the roadway to this degree.

Going back to this image I posted earlier, there seems to be a stairway (arrowed) near the Hotel Elmar which can't be seen in Flyingwedge's picture. It looks like this probably put cars on the right line to miss the wall above the tunnel entrance. The camera also foreshortens the view, making it look worse than it was.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

AlvaroLegido Jan 27, 2016 9:01 PM

An accident waiting to happen !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7315102)
below: Well this certainly looks like an accident waiting to happen, even the center line swerves a bit. (can you imagine a drunk driver approaching this at night)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/PLxILb.jpg
detail
Didn't realize it projected into the roadway to this degree.

_

This is my favorite kind of post. As fluent as its number #.....

ethereal_reality Jan 27, 2016 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 7312918)
There is also a very noirish chapter to the Western Avenue Golf Course's history.
The lover's lane mentioned in this article about the case of two El Segundo Police officers killed in the line of duty in 1957
apparently was on the golf course property.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/WuzK4K.jpg
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/30/us...-officers.html


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...912/vLXvyY.jpg
http://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/mason-gerald-fit.htm

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...633/eWGIIJ.jpg
http://murderpedia.org/male.M/m/mason-gerald-fit.htm

The killer evaded the law for 46 years! He was arrested in 2003.



Here's a rather noirish looking photograph of the murder scene.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/xrZ4Gk.jpg
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...rror/page/601/

:previous: Why the large monument-like street marker? -this looks more like a border marker.



Here's Palm Avenue & W. Rosecrans today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/zRHgB7.jpggsv

I thought there might be a small plaque for the slain officers but I didn't find one.



The deadly encounter with Mason was quite a distance from the 'lover's lane' robbery/rape (upper right) -as bristolian said, the west edge of the golf course.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/YIF1AB.jpg
google_earth

O = murder scene

[] = lover's lane

The policemen stopped Mason " about an hour and a half later", after the rape, so what was he doing for an hour and a half between the two points?
I bet if one delved a bit deeper, you'd find a bar he stopped at.

-perhaps that's why he ran that red light at Rosecrans & Sepulveda. He was tipsy.

___

BifRayRock Jan 27, 2016 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7305156)
Fannie Ward seems to have used a high-profile house for publicity. She acquired or rented 255 S New Hampshire from Mayor Henry T. Hazard, a major landowner in the area who'd built the house in (it appears) 1912 and who died in 1921.

Here's an illustration from previous post 20609:


http://i.imgur.com/8btq4ph.jpg?1?1479
LAT Dec 7, 1912






It turns out that the Hazard Homestead and its lower latitude flora located in "the Bimini District" was a location for Theda Bara's lost film, Cleopatra (1917).

http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...pshhyp4fax.jpg 1917 MoPicNews


Elsewhere, it has been reported there were 3,000 extras present as part of a barge-on-the-Nile scene, in or near what is now known as Dominguez Slough. Sadly, just like Ray's Mayflower, few, if any "location" stills exist. :shrug:


Here's some of what's left of 1917-Cleo's moving images: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9D8p1mI13A




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