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I'd also like to award a LOL to Lorendoc for this great editing explanation from a recent post: "Reason: multiple attempts to render text into English". I often preview my own posts and wonder what I was thinking when I wrote them. Hopefully I catch most of my errors before I click "Submit Reply" ;). |
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...910/MSrRum.jpggsv Thanks for the information on 3201-3215 W. 54th Street HossC. I'm thinking if I go through that list of former inhabitants I might come across a vintage photograph (or have you already done that?) Using the link you provided, I noticed that the building is located in Park Mesa Heights. (that's news to me...I've never heard of a Park Mesa Heights) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/fXZMgS.jpg http://commercial-properties.findthe...geles-CA-90043 http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/633/QsjiiY.jpg http://commercial-properties.findthe...geles-CA-90043 __ |
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The U.S. Hotel was supposedly acquired in 1863 by one Louis Mesmer. Some accounts imply 1866. Acquired from whom would require a search of deed records. Some historical accounts may incorrectly give Mesmer credit for building the U.S. Hotel. Historically, it is unclear whether it was originally a single or two story building and no photos of the original building seem to exist. However historical descriptions of its amenities would lead one to believe it was a two story structure. It was "remodeled" in 1886 by adding a floor and the turreted bay windows indicative of 1880's architectural concepts. The front elevation of 1886 apparently fully replaced the original front elevation. The U.S. Hotel was owned and operated by Louis Mesmer's son Joseph after his father's death in 1900 until it was razed. According to some accounts Louis Mesmer and son Joseph were among the early "Movers & Shakers" in real estate development, and building construction in Los Angeles in the late 1800's. The Louis Mesmer family lived in the Dr. R. T. Hayes home on Fort Street, purchased in 1871. It continued to be the family residence for over twenty-five years. |
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BTW, thanks for reminding me of my post about the building on the corner of 54th and Crenshaw, but a couple of points I made turned out to be wrong. They were immediately corrected by GW in post #17768. I made my excuses in post #17769. ------------- Staying with 3201 W 54th Street, I found a 1962 edition of the California Eagle on mocavo.com. Under the heading "Student Recital", it says "The students of Nicola Holland Fowles will be presented in their annual piano recital Saturday, June 22, at 4:30 p.m. in the auditorium of the Institute of Musical Arts, 3201 W. 54th street. Guest artists will include Mrs. Vermya Phillips, lyric soprano; Miss Sarah E. Fowles, flute, and LaFayette Hight, clarinette." As 3201 W 54th Street doesn't look like the sort of place to have an auditorium, I Googled the Institute of Musical Arts and found they were across the street at 3210 W 54th Street, so I'm guessing it was a typo. Their Facebook page says that the blade sign was new in 2012, although historic Streetview images show the metal framework of the sign dates to well before that. The building out of shot to the left is also part of the institute. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...IMA54thSt1.jpg GSV The Facebook page has a link to the institute's website which has an interesting 'About' page. I was going to summarize its history, but it also gives a good overview of the changes to the neighborhood: Quote:
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...IMA54thSt2.jpg www.imalosangeles.com Just to confuse things, another hit I got when I Googled the 3201 address was a link to the Capoeira Angola Center of Los Angeles which lists the venue type as "Ballroom/Dance Hall". I wonder if this was also a typo and whether they were using the auditorium at the IMA. Their Facebook page gives their current location as 4307 S Crenshaw. While we're on W 54th Street, another late '20s addition to the neighborhood was MacMarr Stores, a block away at 3303 West 54th Street. I posted about its 1929 grand opening in post #19809. |
Hey guys, great work going on here as always!
I've recently started an LA photo blog - www.SouthOnSpring.com - of both historic & modern stuff. Basically solely architecture, influenced heavily by my years of reading this thread. Let me know what you think! |
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The original United States Hotel was, indeed, a two-storey structure (at left, by the flagpole): https://otters.net/img/lanoir/Temple...Henry_crop.jpg Stereoscope photo by Henry T. Payne, ca. 1880, via Wikimedia Commons. (File image cropped.) I don't know if it's really possible to state definitively one way or another if the 1886 hotel incorporated portions of the original or not. Either POV can only be termed speculation based upon what scant evidence we have available to us today. If some of the old building was added onto, my guess would be only the bottom floor was retained, but that large corner entrance on the ground floor of the 1886 hotel was clearly a new structural element not present in the original building. |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LA701W6th1.jpg LAPL I'm not sure of the build date, but I did find this demolition picture dated August 1955. The caption says it was wrecked for the Superior Oil Building. In the background is the California Club, which wasn't built until a couple of years after the picture above. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LA701W6th2.jpg Huntington Digital Library Here's are the businesses I found at 701 W 6th Street: 1898 C E Barschig - grocers 1900-1901 Frank Snow - grocers 1909 J J Sickner - second-hand goods 1911 William O Buckles - restaurant 1915 Jacob D Moss - tailor 1917 Aaron Nadler - tailor 1918 Harry Brusau - trunk manufacturer 1929 California Producers Inc - real estate 1932 George Collins - restaurant 1936 Loretta Brown - restaurant 1939 Tom Shaw Hong - restaurant 1942 William Keil - restaurant So where does that leave us date-wise? It was a restaurant in 1911, but then returned to being a restaurant in 1932 for at least a decade. I think the "Complete Dinners" sign on the end window quotes prices of 25 and 35 cents, which would suggest a later date than the sepia toning implies. The larger text in the sign above the word "Luncheon" says "Eastern Hamburgers" and "Coney Island". Back in post# 13019, e_r posted an eBay find showing the Los Angeles Public Library in 1943. I wish it was a USC image so I could zoom in. I've had to make do with enlarging a small section and tweaking the levels. I can't read the sign, but it's obviously not the Berger's sign seen above. Having said that, the awnings, the gooseneck lights over the sign and the blade sign all look the same. I'm going to guess that Berger's was trading at 701 W 6th in the mid-40s. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LA701W6th4.jpg Detail of picture found on eBay by ethereal_reality. The site is now a parking lot for The Standard Downtown LA, a boutique hotel in the former Superior Oil Company Building. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LA701W6th3.jpg GSV |
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Francis (Frank) Michael Berger was born in Missouri on November 30, 1875 to German immigrant parents. His father was a mechanic. He is found, at the age of four, in the 1880 Census, living in Appleton, St Clair County, Missouri. He married Luella Thomas, born in Nevada in 1871, on August 7, 1900 in Silver Bow County, Montana. They had a daughter, Lorena (Lola), who was born in Montana in 1901, (She married a Rutherford Beck) and a son Lewis Frank Berger (born in 1907, in Nevada) He appears in directories, prior to his marriage, in Montana, working in various capacities, including as a mining smelter. The area had many copper mines at that time. They appear in the 1910 Census, living in Sacramento, CA. At that time he is listed in the Census as being an employee of a restaurant. They moved to Los Angeles before 1918 when he appears in the draft registrations for the First World War. His WWI draft registration card describes him as being of medium build with blue eyes and dark brown hair. They lived at 215 N. Broadway, Los Angeles when his draft card was filled out in 1918. This is, of course, now the lawn in front of City Hall, part of Grand Park. The 1930 Census lists him as being employed as a confectioner. His wife was listed as being a saleslady at the confectionery. At that time they lived at 4037 Glassell Avenue. (now apparently Glassell Street, the area is now condos) Her mother lived with them. The Bergers lived in Eagle Rock in 1937, according to a directory. He is listed as being a restaurant worker. At that time, they lived at 4041 Eagle Rock Blvd. The 1940 Census gives the clue as to the date of the restaurant. It lists Frank as being the proprietor of a restaurant. Frank and Luella were living with their daughter and her husband at 4805 York Blvd., at the time of the 1940 Census in April of 1940. This house, built in 1921, is still there. He died on March 3, 1952 in Los Angeles. His wife died in Los Angeles in December of 1962 |
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:previous: Great sleuthing HossC and oldstuff on Berger's Restaurant. I should have looked closer at that 101 address.
I was just thrilled to have found the postcard. :) |
and speaking of sleuthing....
I am going to need some help in figuring out where in Hollywood this photograph was taken. -not too many clues. (the houses, obviously...the streetlight missing a couple globes....the shape of the hills) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/742/Y2QCqO.jpgebay "Hollywood, Los Angeles, March 1917" reverse http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/jLR4g0.jpg Good luck! :) __ |
Just for fun, I've also been trying to figure out which downtown street this photograph was taken.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/LBtka2.jpg www.badgehistory.com "LAPD Officer Voy Kay Apt in 1920's ticketing Santa." Again, there aren't that many clues. There is the blade sign at left (S E D...B R I C K?) And if those boys are newsies, maybe they're in front of the Los Angeles Examiner building (or one of the other newspaper co.) ...also there are the other two signs on the right (one ends in King) oops. I almost missed the obvious. There's the advertisement on Santa's bag with an address...V A _O R(?) Clothing Co. entrance 214 So.' Broadway. (of course Mr. Claus could have wandered several blocks from the store he's been paid to advertise) __ |
A couple days ago (on ebay), I found these two extraordinary photographs of Santa Monica, circa 1917!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/674/wTWkx6.jpg ebay The sign either says Palace Bathing Club or Private Bathing Club. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/DI5DGC.jpg ebay It's pretty cool to see the private dressing rooms on the beach (like in the U.K.) __ |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...oadway1924.jpg USC Digital Library The "KING" on the right belongs to the Hotel New King at 206½ S Broadway. You can also see the entrance of the Victor Clothing Co, as advertised on Santa's bag. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...telNewKing.jpg Detail of picture in USC Digital Library |
Guess Where Vice-President Joe Biden Was Today
LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Vice President Joe Biden attended a roundtable discussion on minimum wage with Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti on Tuesday.
Business leaders also participated in the discussion at the L.A. Baking Company in Lincoln Heights around 10:15 a.m. Remember my post from last December? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18194 I bet the place really impressed old Joe! |
Newsboy wool caps were the rage in 1920
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I noticed all the boys were wearing a similar style cap. Sears catalog page from 1921..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps9f3758ac.jpg |
:previous: -damn, you're fast....47 minutes HossC :) -kudos! -and you located both Hotel New King and Victor Clothing Co.
-so Santa hadn't wandered very far at all...he was right in front of the store. Los Angeles Railway streetcar near the old Selig Zoo gates, 1954. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/1qsOFI.jpg https://www.flickr.com/photos/metrol...ve/2931568457/ Is that a Tilt-A-Whirl? below: Detail of my favorite photograph of the Selig Zoo gate. (love the girl with the sunglasses) 1930s http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/JDhmpB.jpgebay See the complete photograph here (there's even an elephant!!) http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9430 __ |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ceBathing2.jpg Detail of picture in USC Digital Library Here's the full picture showing Santa Monica's pleasure pier. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ceBathing1.jpg USC Digital Library And the view looking in the other direction. This one was previously posted by e_r in a post about the camera obscura. http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ceBathing3.jpg USC Digital Library |
-a simply beautiful advertising card (1890s?)
Dillman & Will http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/674/1tZbPG.jpg ebay reverse http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/912/hyHWpj.jpg __ |
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