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williamchung taiwan Aug 15, 2008 6:52 AM

Taipei | Gate of Taipei | 319m | 76 fl | 239m | 56 fl | Prep
 
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williamchung taiwan Aug 29, 2008 4:32 AM

from skyscrapers.cn
by 白



8/26
continuous wall seen to be completed
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Australiasian Sep 6, 2008 9:12 AM

going no where still? the site has been like that for ages guys!

williamchung taiwan Sep 6, 2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Australiasian (Post 3782057)
going no where still? the site has been like that for ages guys!

There is a MRT beneath the Gate of Taipei which is airport line.

Razqal Sep 6, 2008 10:32 PM

i hope they keep that little park. and even expand it. the city needs more green open space and trees cuz it's so polluted and dense.

ed21x Sep 6, 2008 11:46 PM

eh? i live in manhattan right now, feel free to come by if you want to see dense and polluted. after living here, going to taipei is a breath of very fresh air. and besides, have you ever stopped complaining about taiwan?

Razqal Sep 7, 2008 9:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ed21x (Post 3783092)
eh? i live in manhattan right now, feel free to come by if you want to see dense and polluted. after living here, going to taipei is a breath of very fresh air. and besides, have you ever stopped complaining about taiwan?

i'm originally from nyc too. if you live in manhattan than you should know central park takes up a huge chunk of manhattan and just a subway ride from any part of the island. and there's other squares and smaller parks that dot the island and very well maintained, e.g., madison square park, gramercy park, cloisters, battery park etc. not to mention flushing meadows, brooklyn botanical, bronx botanical, etc. in the other boroughs. and the air in nyc is generally better than in taipei. having those parklands definitely help.

i complain about nyc and los angeles too, btw. :D

ed21x Sep 11, 2008 3:23 AM

ahh... in that case, as long as every place gets criticized equally :) One thing that I've noticed about Taiwanese people is that they tend to criticize Taiwan disproportionately compared to people from other cities, and there is a general lack of civic pride... although it is getting better now. And yeah, you're right, NYC does have alot of designated parks and nice areas. However, the places that are NOT nice are also dangerous, which is a main factor that makes Taipei (and Taiwan for that matter) appealing. No matter how run down a place is, it is still safe to walk around in. I would take the most run down places of Taipei over the Bronx, Harlem, Long Beach, South Central LA any day of the week.

williamchung taiwan Sep 11, 2008 6:37 AM

I do not want to say about air or environmentm, but I suppose that New York and Taipei are totally different cities. New York is traditional western style city and Taipei is similar to Japanese cities. It is hard to say which city is better. In some particular areas, for example public transport. Taipei MRT is one the best MRTs in the world. But you can say that New York has one of the most beautiful skylines in the world. It's really just depended on which point you are looking.

Street vendor is an interesting thing. Most Aisan cities have street vandor. In Taiwan, is night market.
Here is a report I find from internet:
http://www.apsa2005.net/FullPapers/P...%20Deguchi.pdf

duabi Oct 20, 2008 4:38 AM

I found this in "Urban Design in Cities of Taiwan" page 79

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6643/011wx9.jpg

1. 1984 KMG
2. 1989 Sasaki

Looks like..not much has been done since then lol

Australiasian Oct 29, 2008 6:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duabi (Post 3865424)
I found this in "Urban Design in Cities of Taiwan" page 79

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6643/011wx9.jpg

1. 1984 KMG
2. 1989 Sasaki

Looks like..not much has been done since then lol

oh my god, it just shows how grossly inefficient the taiwanese government is!! 20 years down the track and still nothing?

williamchung taiwan Oct 29, 2008 2:06 PM

Actually, the plan is changed like this
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williamchung taiwan Oct 29, 2008 2:08 PM

However, the plan is still changing.

pierre-laurent Oct 31, 2008 7:05 AM

it's time that the dated taipei main station is renovated. whole the urban environment around is evolving...

jjl Oct 31, 2008 8:58 AM

Wait.. I liked the original tower designs. What the heck is going on?!

Coyett Oct 31, 2008 4:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjl (Post 3884605)
Wait.. I liked the original tower designs. What the heck is going on?!

Nothing going on, the original plan for Maki's towers is still in the works. William's post is not one but actually three completely unrelated projects; Central Park, The Gate of Taipei, and the TDC business center near the corner of Zhongshan. I've listed them according to architect in the "Downtown" thread. ;)

williamchung taiwan Nov 2, 2008 6:30 AM

Here's detail of central station urban planning (2006)

台北車站特區 E1 E2暫予保留區先期規劃

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Razqal Nov 2, 2008 8:27 PM

Are They Going To Build That Gate Of Taipei Already And If So When???????

Coyett Nov 3, 2008 4:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razqal (Post 3888153)
Are They Going To Build That Gate Of Taipei Already And If So When???????

Construction of the Gate of Taipei can only begin after the bus station has been relocated to itaipei. My best guess would be sometime in early 2010.

Australiasian Nov 3, 2008 10:45 AM

hurry up already!

anyiliang Nov 6, 2008 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taiwan ren (Post 3888831)
Construction of the Gate of Taipei can only begin after the bus station has been relocated to itaipei. My best guess would be sometime in early 2010.

Is iTaipei that building, the one that looks like four?

williamchung taiwan Dec 13, 2008 2:42 PM

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為地下四層之建築,地下第四層為停車場,地下第三層為桃園機場捷運a1車站之月台層,地下二層、一層為車站大廳層,



其基地上方為兩棟商業聯開大樓,c1街廓大樓為地上56層大樓, D1東半街廓基地大樓為地上76層大樓,

The underground construction which contain Taipei main station and Gate of Taipei is going to start.

williamchung taiwan Jan 12, 2009 3:45 AM

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williamchung taiwan Feb 22, 2009 11:19 AM

11/02/09
from skyscrapers.tw by templer
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Australiasian Feb 22, 2009 10:35 PM

have they even started laying out foundations?

williamchung taiwan Jun 4, 2009 4:58 AM

from skyscrapers.tw

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Razqal Jun 4, 2009 7:37 PM

thanks for the new post. are they going to build this sucker already??

williamchung taiwan Jun 5, 2009 3:08 AM

Still waiting for MRT A1 station complete , the reason is it is part of Gate of Taipei foundation and basement and also the removal of bus interchange in
D1 site which will be relocated in I-Taipie.

Razqal Jun 5, 2009 4:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamchung taiwan (Post 4288806)
Still waiting for MRT A1 station complete , the reason is it is part of Gate of Taipei foundation and basement and also the removal of bus interchange in
D1 site which will be relocated in I-Taipie.

but isnt gate of taipei right across the street from taipei main station? why do they need another mrt station under gate of taipei?

ed21x Jun 5, 2009 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razqal (Post 4288956)
but isnt gate of taipei right across the street from taipei main station? why do they need another mrt station under gate of taipei?

A1 refers specifically to the Airport Access MRT stop, which is accessible via underground passage from Taipei Main Station, but will be directly under these towers. I'm assuming they probably ran out of space at TMS, or maybe having a separate area for the Airport Link is better logistically as TMS is already congested and overburdened. Moving the bus hub away from TMS will also do well to remove congestion in that area.

anyiliang Jun 7, 2009 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razqal (Post 4288956)
but isnt gate of taipei right across the street from taipei main station? why do they need another mrt station under gate of taipei?

It will be just like Hong Kong. In Hong Kong you can take the Express train from the Airport to Central Station on Hong Kong Island. But once you get to Central Station you have to walk under a long tunnel to access the MTR.

Coyett Jun 16, 2009 8:08 AM

Beimen - Taipei Aiport MRT Terminal -Taipei Main Station

sungFFman Jun 17, 2009 1:31 PM

Does anyone know when the bus terminal will be moved to iTaipei? Honestly, the current one is horrible.

No air conditioning? You kidding me, feels like walking into a furnace.

williamchung taiwan Jun 17, 2009 4:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sungFFman (Post 4311032)
Does anyone know when the bus terminal will be moved to iTaipei? Honestly, the current one is horrible.

No air conditioning? You kidding me, feels like walking into a furnace.

Sadly, the bus companies find there is problem for circulation of ITaipei. They also find the bus driver is hard to drive the bus inside ITaipei.

anyiliang Jun 18, 2009 6:47 AM

I was told by a Ho-Hsin Staff member that they should be moving over there in July.

williamchung taiwan Jul 6, 2009 3:15 PM

from skyscrapers.tw by 白

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Razqal Jul 7, 2009 7:16 AM

cool!!! finally some construction!!

you know something i noticed about construction projects in taiwan: they dont seem to build big holes in the ground but build right on the surface. is that right? dont they need to build foundations below ground and space for a parking garage?

if you check out construction projects in this forum like in new york city, they tend to build huge holes tens of feet below the surface.

williamchung taiwan Jul 7, 2009 8:22 AM

from skyscrapers.tw

These pictures were all taken by 白

The photo which took in 2007.

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williamchung taiwan Jul 7, 2009 8:27 AM

These photos are taken in 2008.


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williamchung taiwan Jul 7, 2009 8:30 AM

They excavate the site first and dig a couple of holes on it. One of these holes is use to remove underground water. And then they put the continous retaining wall in remain two hole and pour concrete into. I think underground foundation is in process and we can not see from the surface.

(Continous retaining wall is about 50m deep....)

For information, I think we need to ask engineer....

Razqal Jul 8, 2009 5:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamchung taiwan (Post 4344499)
They excavate the site first and dig a couple of holes on it. One of these holes is use to remove underground water. And then they put the continous retaining wall in remain two hole and pour concrete into. I think underground foundation is in process and we can not see from the surface.

(Continous retaining wall is about 50m deep....)

For information, I think we need to ask engineer....

i dont see how you can build a foundation without building a hole from the surface. usually you just dig a big hole and pour concrete for the retaining walls and floors and then put in the pillars for the structure, etc. like at world trade center new york city:


(look how big and deep this hole is)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706999/large.jpg

metroXpress Jul 8, 2009 6:46 PM

holy smokes....this is even taller than Vancouver's tallest (197m)

williamchung taiwan Jul 9, 2009 2:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razqal (Post 4347041)
i dont see how you can build a foundation without building a hole from the surface. usually you just dig a big hole and pour concrete for the retaining walls and floors and then put in the pillars for the structure, etc. like at world trade center new york city:


(look how big and deep this hole is)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/82706999/large.jpg

Everything I say in my last respond is depend on these photos I posted, but I not an engineer. I just say what I saw from photos and also some infromation from skyscrapers.tw. And, the A1 station is in process, it is part of the foundation of this twin tower. From this point, I guess the underground construction is still going and we just can not see from surface.

I also hear from skyscrapers.tw, they use some construction tech same as use for tunnel.

Unfortunately, I'm not engineer......
I really think it is better ask engineer staff.
And there are a lot of construction tech, maybe it is one you not often see in Amercia.

Razqal Jul 9, 2009 9:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamchung taiwan (Post 4348095)
Everything I say in my last respond is depend on these photos I posted, but I not an engineer. I just say what I saw from photos and also some infromation from skyscrapers.tw. And, the A1 station is in process, it is part of the foundation of this twin tower. From this point, I guess the underground construction is still going and we just can not see from surface.

I also hear from skyscrapers.tw, they use some construction tech same as use for tunnel.

Unfortunately, I'm not engineer......
I really think it is better ask engineer staff.
And there are a lot of construction tech, maybe it is one you not often see in Amercia.

okay tank yoo xie xie chop chop!! :cool:

williamchung taiwan Jul 9, 2009 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razqal (Post 4348633)
okay tank yoo xie xie chop chop!! :cool:

I don't understand what you try to say!:rolleyes:
Is it kind of English?:P

metroXpress Jul 9, 2009 3:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razqal (Post 4348633)
okay tank yoo xie xie chop chop!! :cool:

than koo bery mach....I understand!@!:rolleyes:

Razqal Jul 9, 2009 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamchung taiwan (Post 4348653)
I don't understand what you try to say!:rolleyes:
Is it kind of English?:P

me no speaka no engwish. me speaka chingwish!! chop chop!! :haha:

williamchung taiwan Aug 31, 2009 5:29 AM

from skyscrapers.tw from 白

23/08/09
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...i/DSC_9356.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...DSC_9349-1.jpg

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metroXpress Aug 31, 2009 4:17 PM

what a clear view of the site...thanks!

williamchung taiwan Sep 3, 2009 12:08 AM

The tendering of superstructure for this project still haven't get any tenders come to take. The reason is residentail project have much higher internal rate of return than official project in these ten years. And also most Taiwan big companies are manufacture and IT, they don't need a lot of office space. Economic recession is also affect the rent....
These factors come together result no tenderers.


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