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Los Angeles Past Feb 26, 2010 8:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4718416)
Scott- Interesting ruminations in your post. I like the postcard and Linda's sweet simple message.
And to answer your question, No...I haven't come across the original photograph of that postcard. :(

Concerning the "Crime of the Century" (the Times Building bombing).
It used to confuse me that some photos of the Times Building had the crenelated tower and others did not.
Recently, I read somewhere that the tower was an addition to the building AFTER the bombing.
Does anyone know, is this correct?

I'll dig up some of the photos I have.

Ah well, it was worth asking anyway. :) I didn't think of this before, but since it was taken from the vantage point of the Times Building, the original photo might have belonged to the Times, and was perhaps destroyed along with the building itself in 1910...

And, yes, that crenelated tower was part of the third Times Building.

Here's a postcard view from shortly after the new building was completed:

https://otters.net/img/lanoir/newtim...dingpc_sky.jpg

Later, a flagpole and the word "TIMES" were added to the top of the tower, though I don't know exactly when...

-Scott

Los Angeles Past Feb 26, 2010 8:34 AM

Aha, I knew I had this photo somewhere...

Here are the first three buildings that were home to the Los Angeles Times:

https://otters.net/img/lanoir/00011936.jpg
LAPL

The first was located at Temple and New High (1881); the latter two at First and Broadway (1886 and 1911-2 respectively).

-S

ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2010 8:42 PM

^^^I appreciate the explanation Scott. Thank you.

ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2010 9:59 PM

I just found this photograph in one of my files.
This is post-bomb...construction of Times Building #3 with tower.


http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4...fterthebla.jpg
usc archive




Here's a detail of the sign from the above photo.


http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1...tertheblap.jpg



lol...this one sign would have answer several of my questions in an earlier post of mine. :)

ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2010 11:40 PM

I'm doing this ass-backwards.....here are a couple photos from the bombing (1910).






http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6776/la0228bomb1.jpg
usc digital library









http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1...0228bomb1a.jpg
usc digital archive

ethereal_reality Feb 27, 2010 11:41 PM

You can see the Times Building with the tower below.



http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9130/latimesbldgm5.jpg
cal state

ethereal_reality Feb 28, 2010 11:34 PM

Here's a photo of some especially nice buildings.
This is looking south on Main Street from Temple in 1926.




http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4...ainstsouth.jpg
usc digital library

sopas ej Mar 2, 2010 8:22 AM

Some pics of Long Beach.

Long Beach Municipal Auditorium, 1940
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6...cipalaudit.jpg
USC archive

Long Beach Municipal Auditorium, 1930
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3...ditorium19.jpg
USC archive

Long Beach Municipal Auditorium, 1938
This is the front entrance. Before the auditorium was demolished, the mosaic in that recess of the arch was saved and is now on the side of a parking structure.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066102.jpg
lapl.org

Long Beach Municipal Auditorium and Rainbow Pier, 1946. Here you can see why the Rainbow Pier was called the Rainbow Pier.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6...alauditori.jpg
USC archive

Long Beach Convention Center, 1968
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/877...entioncent.jpg
USC archive

This picture is amazing to me because I can see where the municipal auditorium once stood in relation to what's there today. I wasn't aware that when the Long Beach Arena was built, it was connected to the Municipal Auditorium. This site is now the Long Beach Convention and Entertainment Center, with the very 1970s Terrace Theater now occupying where the Municipal Auditorium once stood, and the Convention Center exhibit space occupying buildings adjacent to the theater.

The Municipal Auditorium was demolished in 1975. I don't know when the Rainbow Pier met its demise; that beach area was drastically altered when the LA/Long Beach harbors built their breakwaters. Also, that area was filled in with landfill and to build the convention center and adjacent downtown Long Beach marina. Shoreline Drive is now in that area, too, where of course Long Beach holds its annual Grand Prix.

Los Angeles Past Mar 2, 2010 4:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4723358)
Here's a photo of some especially nice buildings.
This is looking south on Main Street from Temple in 1926.




http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4...ainstsouth.jpg
usc digital library

Great pic of the Temple Block in its declining years! Everything in this picture had but 2-3 years left to exist. This is the exact spot upon which the new City Hall would very soon begin to rise...

Los Angeles Past Mar 2, 2010 4:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4721949)
You can see the Times Building with the tower below.



http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9130/latimesbldgm5.jpg
cal state

Superb aerial photo! I just wish it were available in a much higher resolution...

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2010 11:29 PM

^^^I'm glad you liked the photographs Scott.
I'll see if I can find a higher resolution of the aerial photo.


The photographs of Long Beach were great sopas_ej.
I was particularly impressed with the old Long Beach Municipal Auditorium.
I cringed when I saw the Long Beach Arena.





Below: Long Beach Pier and Pavilion around 1898.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2...chpiertowa.jpg
usc digital library

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2010 11:31 PM

Long Beach Pier and Pavilion in 1895.


http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9...chpierpavi.jpg
usc digital library





Below: Long Beach Pier and Pavilion in 1900.
The pavilion in this photograph is more ornate than the pavilion in the previous two photos.




http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1...chcrowdsho.jpg
usc digital library

ethereal_reality Mar 2, 2010 11:40 PM

Long Beach Pier in 1902.


http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8...chpier1900.jpg
usc digital library

GaylordWilshire Mar 3, 2010 1:56 AM

There's our old wet-blanket friend the WCTU at Broadway & Temple (upper center), and the Broadway Tunnel beyond that. But I'm blanking out on the tunnel at the upper left. Anyone?



Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4721949)
You can see the Times Building with the tower below.



http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9130/latimesbldgm5.jpg
cal state


Los Angeles Past Mar 5, 2010 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 4727175)
There's our old wet-blanket friend the WCTU at Broadway & Temple (upper center), and the Broadway Tunnel beyond that. But I'm blanking out on the tunnel at the upper left. Anyone?


I've never heard a name for that tunnel, but I think it's another trolley tunnel that's just north of the Hill Street trolley tunnel (the one on the left in this view):


https://otters.net/img/lanoir/DW-B5-49-11-ISLA.jpg


I like this photo from 1908 showing where Hill stopped at First Street, and before First was extended up First Street Hill:


https://otters.net/img/lanoir/CHS-6347.jpg


And check out the sign for the Highland Villa (a grand old building):

"Furnished rooms/$2.00 per week & up." :)

ethereal_reality Mar 7, 2010 9:37 PM

Main Street at Spring in 1939.


http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3...tspringst1.jpg
usc digital library

Notice the very 'noir' looking Hotel Chandler.

ethereal_reality Mar 7, 2010 9:40 PM

Another angle of the same area in 1939 (looking north on S. Spring St.).


http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1...orthsouths.jpg
usc digital library

kanhawk Mar 8, 2010 3:07 AM

I'm wondering about those 5 cent hamburgers at the corner building. "Always fresh" it says:yes:

sopas ej Mar 8, 2010 5:21 AM

:previous:

And over 56 tons.

Great photos, ethereal, I really like them.

Yeah, 5 cent hamburgers-- and 5 cent root beers too? I never understood the prices on menus of that era. Often it'll be like 10 cents for coffee, and then only 25 cents for a burger... whereas today it'll be like 2 bucks for a soda and nearly 5 bucks for a burger. Was a penny really worth all that much back then?

JDRCRASH Mar 8, 2010 5:48 AM

Wow...that picture of main/spring/9th makes it look so much like an early 1900's Times Square.

With all that signage, along with the nearby theaters, you might wonder what could've been...

ethereal_reality Mar 8, 2010 10:56 PM

^^^ That's what I liked about the photograph as well.
All the signs with the different types of fonts. Also how the buildings are in a stepped formation....from shortest to tallest.

garfield Mar 12, 2010 6:45 AM

Will Angels flight actually re-open this time?!?
 
http://college.usc.edu/geography/pri...gelsflight.jpg

John Welborne, head of the Angels Flight Railway Foundation, said it will re-open as early as April 15th! Anyone going to show up for this? I know I will. :cheers:

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...les&id=7326530

http://cbs2.com/local/Historic.Angel...2.1553056.html

JDRCRASH Mar 12, 2010 6:49 AM

Wouldn't count on it. There have been so many delays now that i have to believe it when I see it.

garfield Mar 12, 2010 7:07 AM

Angels Flight Re-opening Delays
 
I know it has had many delays, but I would be very disappointed if I missed it.

ethereal_reality Mar 12, 2010 6:44 PM

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/273...ylookingno.jpg
usc digital library

Broadway looking north from 10th Street in 1931

I spy an advertisement for 'The Champ' starring Wallace Beery and Jackie Cooper.

ethereal_reality Mar 12, 2010 6:48 PM

Another 1931 view of downtown Los Angeles.

Can anyone here pinpoint this view? There were no details except for the date.
The odd shaped building in the lower left makes me think there could be a diagonal street just out of the shot.




http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/307...06view1931.jpg
usc digital library

ethereal_reality Mar 12, 2010 8:06 PM

Here are three more 1931 photographs.
I believe all three were taken from the vicinity of the Herald Examiner Building.


http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/130...rview1931b.jpg
usc digital archive









http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/478...rview1931a.jpg
usc digital archive









http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/488...erview1931.jpg
usc digital archive

ethereal_reality Mar 12, 2010 8:32 PM

The Buffalo Cafe at 1326 S. Main Street in 1929.

The lighting fixtures on either side of the door are extremely cool.
Does anyone have an idea what is attached to the wall between the cafe and the tire shop next door?



http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1...cafehidden.jpg
usc digital library







Below: The unveiling of the Buffalo Cafe as a speakeasy.



http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2...cafeh2exam.jpg
usc digital library

Los Angeles Past Mar 13, 2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4743263)
Here are three more 1931 photographs.
I believe all three were taken from the vicinity of the Herald Examiner Building.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/478...rview1931a.jpg
usc digital archive

I can ID this one, at least. It's 11th Street looking west from Broadway. :)

ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2010 7:52 PM

^^^cool....thanks for the info. :)

Johnny Socko Mar 14, 2010 12:08 AM

^^ Knowing where the Mayan & Belasco are located, I was gonna jump in and say "Hill and Olympic". But I would've only been half right!

Johnny Socko Mar 14, 2010 12:14 AM

Press Release: Angels Flight to Reopen March 15, 2010
 
(Via AngelsFlight Twitter feed)

This JUST in (within the last hour): A press release was just, er, released stating that Angels Flight would re-open on Monday, March 15th.

http://pic70.picturetrail.com/VOL182.../384170737.jpg

Here is the website where that press release was posted:

http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/23044083

ethereal_reality Mar 14, 2010 2:59 AM

A beautiful Kodachrome slide from the 1940s.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8...hrome1940s.jpg
found on ebay

sopas ej Mar 14, 2010 4:49 PM

:previous:

That is indeed beautiful. Those other photos are also great!

Los Angeles Past Mar 14, 2010 5:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4745197)
A beautiful Kodachrome slide from the 1940s.

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8...hrome1940s.jpg
found on ebay


Very nice! I think this parking lot was at the NE corner of Aliso and Alameda. That pyramid-tipped tower actually belongs to the Engine Co. 4 fire station featured in this post. Union Station is on this site now; in fact, this is probably its parking lot.

-Scott

garfield Mar 15, 2010 3:50 AM

Lost Airfield in Los Angeles
 
http://www.laobserved.com/assets_c/2...400x289-22.jpg

The corner of Wilshire and Fairfax, used to be an airfield in 1920 before it changed to The Grove and Farmer's Market.

LAObserved.com

JDRCRASH Mar 15, 2010 4:11 AM

I don't know if this was posted, but i'll post it anyway:

http://images.snapfish.com/3427::472...3C7:::;:nu0mrj
Credit: http://www.usc.edu/isd/archives/la/p...roa/AF1959.jpg

dktshb Mar 15, 2010 4:42 AM

It definitely looks like the picture captures the "Hollywoodland" sign:

Quote:

ethereal_reality

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/130...rview1931b.jpg
usc digital archive

Johnny Socko Mar 16, 2010 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garfield (Post 4746326)
http://www.laobserved.com/assets_c/2...400x289-22.jpg

The corner of Wilshire and Fairfax, used to be an airfield in 1920 before it changed to The Grove and Farmer's Market.

LAObserved.com

Now THIS is right in my wheelhouse -- or cockpit, as it were -- since I'm an aviation geek as well as an L.A. history geek. Somewhere around here, I have an aviation book that has a fantastic aerial photo of that very airfield. But I could never find many details about it. Kevin Roderick saves the day again; that guy is a one-man History Channel.

PHX31 Mar 16, 2010 2:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4743305)
The Buffalo Cafe at 1326 S. Main Street in 1929.

The lighting fixtures on either side of the door are extremely cool.
Does anyone have an idea what is attached to the wall between the cafe and the tire shop next door?



http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1...cafehidden.jpg
usc digital library



I would think that is a small marquee or something, maybe for advertisements or menus?

The fact that that was a speakeasy is awesome.

garfield Mar 16, 2010 4:58 AM

Angels Flight Re-opened Today!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JDRCRASH (Post 4746348)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/...dbdc5f0179.jpg

Here's what it lookes like today. I was on the first ride at 6:45 this morning. :pepper:

Los Angeles Past Mar 16, 2010 7:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garfield (Post 4748256)
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/...dbdc5f0179.jpg

Here's what it lookes like today. I was on the first ride at 6:45 this morning. :pepper:

So, is Angels Flight a real funicular railway again (a single cable for both cars), or does it still employ separate cables for each car?

sopas ej Mar 16, 2010 9:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles Past (Post 4748420)
So, is Angels Flight a real funicular railway again (a single cable for both cars), or does it still employ separate cables for each car?

It's now a single cable for both cars; they counterbalance each other, kind of like a diagonal elevator.

sopas ej Mar 16, 2010 9:08 AM

Boy hit, Crenshaw and Washington Boulevards, 1951
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7...nshawandwa.jpg
USC archive

Car accident on Wilshire near Fairfax, 1952
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/4...lshirenear.jpg
USC archive

Phil Spector, 1958 at age 18 (he looks like a car wreck now hehe). A graduate of Fairfax High School, at age 18 he wrote the pop song "To Know Him is to Love Him"
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5...pector1958.jpg
USC archive

Hollywood Blvd. and Vermont Ave., pedestrian safety zone for streetcar, 1937
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6...etyzonehol.jpg
USC archive

sopas ej Mar 16, 2010 9:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 4743263)

I found it funny that you posted these pictures because coincidentally, while walking around downtown LA two Saturdays ago (March 6th 2010), I took these pictures:

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4012/p1100244.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9980/p1100245.jpg

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6264/p1100239.jpg

sopas ej Mar 16, 2010 9:42 AM

West 6th St. and Hill, downtown Los Angeles, circa 1940:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4...d6thca1940.jpg
USC archive

Johnny Socko Mar 16, 2010 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 4748452)
Boy hit, Crenshaw and Washington Boulevards, 1951
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7...nshawandwa.jpg
USC archive

Hollywood Blvd. and Vermont Ave., pedestrian safety zone for streetcar, 1937
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6...etyzonehol.jpg
USC archive

Man, poor kid in that first pic! That's all he needs: Hit by a car, and then some busybody sticks a camera with a blinding flashbulb in his face.

That last shot illustrates an unfortunate reality: As big a fan of the old LA streetcar system as I am, I don't think it could work in today's world, even if all the tracks were still in place. The reason can be seen in the picture -- waiting or disembarking passengers had to gather in the middle of the street, with no separation from automobiles. I don't think that would fly today. Also, since urban streetcars ran in the left lane, people in cars would have to pass on the right, which is another no-no.

I often wonder how a comprehensive, citywide streetcar system would be implemented today, given all these limitations (I realize there's no danger of that actually happening, of course).

garfield Mar 17, 2010 5:52 AM

Funicular (Angels Flight)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 4748445)
It's now a single cable for both cars; they counterbalance each other, kind of like a diagonal elevator.

Angels Flight has always been a funicular as the definition is to have an object move by means of a rope or cable (dictionary.reference.com). But yes, Angels Flight is now a "traditional" funicular in that both cars are attached to the same cable. There have also been other safety upgrades, such as computer controlled breaks and better safety checks.

It was kinda cool being interviewed by all the news stations.

ethereal_reality Mar 18, 2010 2:37 AM

Sopas_ej...all the photos you posted are great.
It was a joy to log in and see all these interesting posts.



Below is a photo of Angels Flight that I don't recall seeing before.


http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6...neverseent.jpg
ebay/

The buildings adjacent (to the south at least) are now gone.

ethereal_reality Mar 18, 2010 2:45 AM

Here is another Angels Flight photograph that was new to me (and hopefully you).


http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2...aflightcab.jpg
unkown

It's hard to believe all these buildings on the left were torn down. :(


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