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tech12 Apr 12, 2015 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthew2109 (Post 6986951)
Will the type of fans change? Like the Oracle is in Oakland...this will be in SF.

Why would the fans change? They're the Bay Area's basketball team, and are only moving across the bay (which is where they were before they were in Oakland, for the record).

Gordo Apr 12, 2015 5:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech12 (Post 6987542)
Why would the fans change? They're the Bay Area's basketball team, and are only moving across the bay (which is where they were before they were in Oakland, for the record).

Sure, but I think that you will see a change in the fans attending the average game. I'll definitely go to more games with the team in SF just because of convenience. It's not super hard to get to the current location, but the added benefit of being able to walk somewhere for food/drink before/after the game is a huge plus for me, and probably means at least 5-6 more games a year.

SF born and RAISED Apr 12, 2015 9:31 PM

Fan base changes with new home
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tech12 (Post 6987542)
Why would the fans change? They're the Bay Area's basketball team, and are only moving across the bay (which is where they were before they were in Oakland, for the record).

It definitely changes the fan base. With the Warriors winning these couple of years, I've been priced out of so many games. Prices were only $40-50 a seat a few years back, now go for $100+. Moving into a brand new stadium only will jack up the prices more like Levi's Stadium.

tech12 Apr 13, 2015 1:51 AM

Good points...but is that really the fan base changing? The people who go to games may skew more wealthy due to rising ticket prices, but most fans who can't afford to go to the games anymore will still watch them on TV or go to a smaller number of games when they can afford it. I doubt your average warriors fan in Oakland or San Leandro will stop rooting for them just because they move back to SF, just like your average fan back when they were in SF didn't stop rooting for them when they moved to Oakland.

tech12 Apr 29, 2015 4:04 PM

What the hell...this fucking city...

NIMBYs are trying to kill the arena again:

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...rena-plan.html

patriotizzy Apr 29, 2015 4:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech12 (Post 7008525)
What the hell...this fucking city...

NIMBYs are trying to kill the arena again:

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...rena-plan.html

To be fair, there is a medical center right across the street.

pizzaguy Apr 30, 2015 9:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech12 (Post 7008525)
What the hell...this fucking city...

NIMBYs are trying to kill the arena again:

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...rena-plan.html

They have no ground to stand on. It's gonna be privately financed on private land and is well within the height restrictions.

viewguysf Apr 30, 2015 6:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patriotizzy (Post 7008557)
To be fair, there is a medical center right across the street.

Yes--calling them NIMBYs is a simplistic answer when there's much more to it than that. I've always questioned this location and would like to have seen it along the Embarcadero or on the Giant's land south of the stadium. UCSF and the medical center want room for future expansion and research facilities, the main reason that Mission Bay was started in the first place. Don't get me wrong though--I'd love to have that arena in San Francisco.

thedudley Apr 30, 2015 9:04 PM

I mean, it's a stadium/arena in SF. No matter where you put it, it's gonna be next to something. 50,000 seat Kezar Stadium sat right next to St. Mary's hospital and nobody seemed to have a problem with that.

If UCSF wanted to expand to that plot of land in the future, then they should have bought that land. It belonged to Salesforce before the Warriors bought it.

But let's actually analyze the argument that's being brought against the project. "There will be too much traffic because there is not enough parking at the arena (950 spaces for 18,500 people)." So they want more parking so that more people will drive there? It's bass-ackwards thinking.

WildCowboy Apr 30, 2015 9:06 PM

UCSF is publicly distancing themselves from this group and saying they are pleased with negotiations with the Warriors and the city about ensuring emergency vehicle access. They're likely downplaying any more overt internal opposition, but seems completely reasonable they want to ensure access to the hospital during high traffic events. They'd be neglectful if they didn't make sure there were plans and infrastructure in place to handle it.

The group of donors wants that land available for UCSF, but UCSF hasn't expressed interest in or a need for it.

thedudley Apr 30, 2015 9:10 PM

Something tells me that a lot of people will take the central subway to the game once that line is finished. and considering the arena wouldn't open for another couple years at the earliest, they should coincide nicely.

For those that are curious, here is the Warrior's plan to mitigate gameday/event traffic: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...ssion-bay.html

WildCowboy May 1, 2015 3:09 AM

Benioff and Conway, who between them have given UCSF $240 million for its hospitals, are blasting the arena foes.

viewguysf May 1, 2015 4:41 AM

This will hopefully blow over since the City, Benioff, and Conway are all pushing back hard. Plus, can you imagine a hospital more difficult to get to than the new CPMC Medical Center being built? Van Ness, Franklin, and Geary are usually busy, and Post will become that way.

One thing though, I wouldn't compare St. Mary's Hospital to UCSF Mission Bay. It isn't just the hospitals (which eventually will double in size when the next phase is built); it's also the campus research and other facilities. I can well see that some people would want to keep land available for expansion, but as WildCowboy and thedudley pointed out, the university itself hasn't expressed interest in it, nor did they buy it.

mt_climber13 May 1, 2015 4:51 PM

You guys can come use our new arena in downtown Sacramento.

a very long weekend May 1, 2015 5:32 PM

man, i can only imagine the angry phone calls marc benioff is making this week at the very highest levels.

the tinfoil theory that explains why it's coming out of nowhere: coliseum city developers and people near the mayor of oakland are behind this.

pizzaguy Sep 19, 2015 8:48 PM

New video

http://www.sfgate.com/warriors/artic...at-6506120.php

peanut gallery Oct 7, 2015 7:00 AM

Some big news coming out tonight. UCSF will now endorse the Warriors new arena, taking some of the wind out of the sails of the opposition. From the SF Business Times:

Quote:

With a $10 million-plus fund for potential traffic issues and other safeguards, the leadership of the University of California, San Francisco — whose Mission Bay campus sits across from the proposed arena, office and retail project — now officially endorses the project, Lee said Tuesday.

The endorsement is a big win for the Warriors and Lee, who sees the return of the Warriors to San Francisco after more than 40 years in Oakland as a signature project. It also undercuts the ability of the opposing Mission Bay Alliance to use UCSF's previously lukewarm reception to the Warriors' plans as a tool to drum up opposition.

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But UCSF Chancellor Sam Hawgood signing off on an endorsement moves the institution from tacit approval to a full-on OK of an 18,050-seat arena in time for the tipoff of the 2018-19 season. The alliance continues to say, however, that the development would overwhelm Mission Bay with traffic and block access to UCSF hospitals.

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The agreements — one creating a dedicated transportation improvement fund, the other setting a "special circumstances cap" that requires last-resort limitations when there are overlapping events at the arena and the San Francisco Giants' AT&T Park, less than a half-mile down Third Street — would provide the "safeguards UCSF needs to fully endorse the Warriors' arena project," Hawgood said.

The fund would be fed by at least $10 million to spend annually on possible solutions to traffic problems through the life of the arena, Lee's office said. That could be used for four new light-rail cars dedicated to serving the arena — and available at other times to augment general Muni light-rail service — new, expanded light-rail platforms for the T-Third line serving Mission Bay, and a plan to keep certain streets clear of event traffic for UCSF, local businesses and residents.

The money would come from revenue generated by the Warriors' arena.

WildCowboy Oct 7, 2015 1:27 PM

And yet, the opposition is just going to "fight harder" for someone who doesn't want their protection.

tech12 Oct 7, 2015 9:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildCowboy (Post 7189273)
And yet, the opposition is just going to "fight harder" for someone who doesn't want their protection.

Because as usual, what it's really about is selfish NIMBYs who want their views to always be 100% the same, their personal parking situation to never change, their property values to only ever go up as much possible, their own personal opinions on "beauty" and "character" to be accepted as universal fact, etc, etc. With a splash of misguided fools suckered in as support, who think it's about affordability, or hospital access, or saving the environment or something.

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but :yuck:

peanut gallery Oct 7, 2015 9:17 PM

This will at least take away one of their fake altruistic arguments.

minesweeper Oct 12, 2015 6:38 PM

I didn't realize this wasn't previously official. I guess the Warriors were waiting to make sure this didn't get killed like the last proposal:

Quote:

Warriors Formally Purchase Mission Bay Site

The NBA Champion Golden State Warriors announced today the team has formally acquired the 12-acre site of its future sports and entertainment complex in Mission Bay from Salesforce.

Terms of the deal were not announced.

The Warriors purchased an option on the private property in 2014, and have spent the past year and a half participating in a public planning process. Environmental review is expected to be completed this fall; the team plans to open the new arena in time for the 2018-19 NBA season.

peanut gallery Oct 14, 2015 6:12 PM

The Warriors also announced that financing and a general contractor are in place. From the SF Business Times:

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A joint venture between Clark Construction Co. and M.A. Mortenson Co. is set to build the Golden State Warriors' $1 billion arena in San Francisco, which also has financing ready to deploy, team co-owner and CEO Joe Lacob said.

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The Mortenson/Clark joint venture was picked as the general contractor as long ago as last fall, but the team had not publicly identified the builder until Lacob spoke Monday to the San Francisco Business Times. A Mortenson official on Tuesday referred questions to the Warriors.

The still-undisclosed financier — which Lacob described as a "big, big, big, big financial institution," but not a bank — has been in place for a couple years, he said, and would layer on top of funding provided by a Warriors' ownership group of more than 30 people.

The arena project is entirely privately funded, a rarity in a sports business world where cities and regions subsidize stadiums as an economic development tool or to retain or attract "major league" status. The Warriors' plans would — in theory, at least — be accelerated because there is no direct government money and the team now controls the site.

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The Warriors hope to secure all the necessary government approvals for the project by the end of the year, Lacob said. The franchise, which expects to open an interactive preview center in Mission Bay early next year and allow season-ticket holders to pick their seats later in 2016, plans to have the entire site ready for a move from Oakland by the tipoff of the 2018-19 National Basketball Association season.

But the Warriors still must win a key sign-off of the environmental impact report, or EIR, from the city's Office of Community Investment and Infrastructure Commission. That OK could come next month, and the Board of Supervisors may approve the EIR by the end of the year, Lacob said.

peanut gallery Oct 22, 2015 5:18 PM

Yet more support for the project:

Quote:

Some of the largest biotech players — and potential neighbors — of the team's planned Mission Bay arena said in a letter Tuesday to Warriors President and COO Rick Welts that they are joining the project's lineup of supporters.

That includes big players in the life sciences industry, namely Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE), Celgene Corp. (NASDAQ: CELG), Bayer HealthCare Pharmaceuticals and Illumina Inc. (NASDAQ: ILMN), as well as a handful of startups and biotech landlord Alexandria Real Estate Equities Inc. (NYSE: ARE).

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A copy of the letter, whose other signatories included FibroGen Inc. (NASDAQ: FGEN), Nektar Therapeutics Inc. (NASDAQ: NKTR) and the California Life Sciences Association trade group, was sent to Mayor Ed Lee.
Full article at SF Business Times.

timbad Oct 24, 2015 6:02 PM

Eir
 
<--- thanks pg; good news...

sfgate and socketsite articles on the release of the final EIR for the project, the former highlighting the $60 million transportation plan. from sfgate:

Quote:

...includes plans for a light-rail center boarding platform with “crossover tracks,” similar to the one in front of AT&T Park, that will “increase T-Third transit capacity and reduce walking distance to the arena and hospital,” according to the document.

And it calls for the purchase of four new rail cars for the T-Third line and the creation of two satellite parking lots on Port of San Francisco property south of Mission Bay. All of the improvements, as well as $6 million in annual operating costs, will be funded by fees collected at the arena from special taxes on ticket sales, parking and concessions. ...
right now the north- and southbound boarding platforms are staggered, separated by South St, with only the southbound one directly in front of the arena site, so I assume this means demo'ing the existing northbound platform and consolidating/reconstructing where the southbound one is*. I always thought the platforms had originally been laid out staggered because Third St's width didn't easily accommodate center platforms. I imagine the EIR document addresses this - I haven't dared to delve into its thousands of pages!

Mission Bay Alliance of course isn't happy and will appeal, but everyone else involved seems to be. SFMTA says they have gotten more than they need to handle the added capacity demands.

anyway, the vote to certify the EIR is Election Day, Nov 3.

*this would mean moving a platform away from right in front of the new Uber headquarters. so, how on earth are the Uber employees supposed to get to work now? I mean, if you make public transit less convenient for them, what other possible option is left to Uber people for their transportation needs? we don't want to be filling up nearby parking garages... I just don't know what the solution here is. someone needs to come up with a transport idea for people in situations such as these poor Uber folks.

WildCowboy Oct 25, 2015 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by timbad (Post 7210416)
right now the north- and southbound boarding platforms are staggered, separated by South St, with only the southbound one directly in front of the arena site, so I assume this means demo'ing the existing northbound platform and consolidating/reconstructing where the southbound one is*. I always thought the platforms had originally been laid out staggered because Third St's width didn't easily accommodate center platforms. I imagine the EIR document addresses this - I haven't dared to delve into its thousands of pages!

This is incorrect. They are simply going to extend the existing northbound station an additional 160 feet northward to allow for two two-car trains to stop simultaneously.

Yes, I delved into the EIR (warning: massive PDF)!

You can see it in a few figures including this one on page 5.2.61.

http://i61.tinypic.com/2lkblee.jpg

timbad Oct 25, 2015 2:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildCowboy (Post 7210667)
This is incorrect. They are simply going to extend the existing northbound station an additional 160 feet northward ...

huh, is sfgate just making stuff up again!??! they had quotes around it and everything! :shrug:

WildCowboy Oct 26, 2015 4:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timbad (Post 7210718)
huh, is sfgate just making stuff up again!??! they had quotes around it and everything! :shrug:

Unless they updated things and I'm looking at an old proposal, which could very well be the case...

minesweeper Nov 6, 2015 3:03 AM

The Planning Commission unanimously approved the project today, apparently the last major approval needed (now come the appeals and lawsuits):

Quote:

The Golden State Warriors got a win Thursday even bigger than this week’s 50-point blowout of the Memphis Grizzlies, as the San Francisco Planning Commission unanimously approved the team’s proposed Mission Bay arena.

While the $1 billion, 18,000-seat arena will likely face a legal challenge from opponents the Mission Bay Alliance, the vote represented the final major approval the Warriors need as the commission approved the project’s design, environmental study and two adjacent office buildings.

The vote was the culmination of a 3 1/2-year process that started with a different — and much more controversial — plan to build an arena on Piers 30-32 just south of the Bay Bridge. When opposition to that project arose from neighborhood groups and environmentalists, the Warriors moved a mile south to a site they bought from Salesforce.com.

[...]

Warriors spokesman P.J. Johnston said the unanimous vote shows that the Mission Bay Alliance’s arguments have not gained any traction.

“They are like a Whoopie cushion that’s run out of gas,” Johnston said.

minesweeper Dec 9, 2015 6:47 AM

The Board of Supervisors rejected the EIR appeal and approved the transportation fund:

Quote:

The Golden State Warriors’ three-year campaign to bring professional basketball back to San Francisco reached its final political milestone Tuesday night, as the Board of Supervisors unanimously voted to support the construction of an 18,500-seat, $1 billion arena in Mission Bay.

After five hours of testimony about the arena’s impact on traffic, parking and the UCSF Hospital at Mission Bay, the supervisors found that plans for beefed-up public transit and a nimble fleet of traffic control officers could handle the thousands of basketball fans flooding the neighborhood for games.

While the board approval sealed the political deal, the fight will likely move to the courts. The Mission Bay Alliance — an organization made up of UCSF donors and former board members — has said it will file a lawsuit to block the arena.

timbad Dec 20, 2015 3:55 AM

sure enough, lawsuit filed,
Quote:

“arguing that the University of California at San Francisco (“UCSF”) illegally signed an agreement with the Golden State Warriors that would give away state property to private parties and pose potentially grave health and safety dangers to Bay Area residents.”
I don't get this. what state property is UCSF supposed to have given? didn't the Warriors buy the site from Salesforce? edit: who bought it from Alexandria?

WildCowboy Dec 22, 2015 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timbad (Post 7276082)
I don't get this. what state property is UCSF supposed to have given? didn't the Warriors buy the site from Salesforce? edit: who bought it from Alexandria?

I'm not about to pay Alameda's exorbitant fees to look up the lawsuit myself, but here's what I've been able to piece together:

http://www.courthousenews.com/2015/1...arena-plan.htm

Quote:

The plaintiffs claim Hawgood on Oct. 7 secretly negotiated a memorandum of understanding to transfer UC property near the UCSF Children's Hospital to the Warriors basketball franchise.

"Such a transfer is unlawful because Chancellor Hawgood acted without the UC Regents' authority in purporting to bind UCSF and by extension the regents. Furthermore, the transfer is an unconstitutional delegation of the UC Regents' police powers, including the power to abate nuisances that affect land owned by the UC Regents; an unlawful gift of public property; and represents an abuse of the chancellor's discretion," the 93-page complaint states.
So I went to the memorandum of understanding, and it's not entirely clear what the lawsuit is referring to. It may be this part under the Warriors and Joint Obligations section:
Quote:

(b) recording of an agreement modifying a Grant of Easement dated June 30, 1999, by and between The Regents of the University of California ("UC") and Catellus Development Corporation ("Catullus") so as to consent to the Project...
That led me back to the Warriors arena SEIR, where I found discussion of a view easement.

UCSF has/had a view easement that extends along the line of Campus Way (the road between Third and Fourth that passes among UCSF parking lots, the Third Street Garage, and Mission Hall) across Third Street for 100 feet into the heart of the Warriors project site. That's apparently what Hawgood gave away.

timbad Dec 24, 2015 6:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildCowboy (Post 7277983)
... here's what I've been able to piece together:

... UCSF has/had a view easement that extends along the line of Campus Way (the road between Third and Fourth that passes among UCSF parking lots, the Third Street Garage, and Mission Hall) across Third Street for 100 feet into the heart of the Warriors project site. That's apparently what Hawgood gave away.

nice sleuthing! and thanks.

just for the heck of it, here's a view of (the eastern portion of) the site from this last weekend

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/712/2...178c33af_b.jpg

timbad Jan 16, 2016 10:14 AM

not 2018
 
not too surprisingly, at least one-year delay

cos2x Jan 28, 2016 1:43 AM

New Golden State Warriors arena in San Francisco to be named Chase Center

KRON
By Mario Sevilla
Published: January 27, 2016, 5:26 pm Updated: January 27, 2016, 5:37 pm

Quote:

JP Morgan Chase & Co. snatched up several domain names that suggest it has bought or considering to buy the naming rights to the 18,000 seat arena expected to open in the fall of 2019.

1977 Jan 28, 2016 2:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cos2x (Post 7315717)
New Golden State Warriors arena in San Francisco to be named Chase Center

KRON
By Mario Sevilla
Published: January 27, 2016, 5:26 pm Updated: January 27, 2016, 5:37 pm

Looks like it's a done deal:
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...arena-jpm.html

minesweeper Jan 28, 2016 9:51 PM

A new website has been launched: www.chasecenter.com

Press releases:
http://i.imgur.com/HSDOX84.jpg
Source: chasecenter.com

botoxic Jul 19, 2016 12:13 AM

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...ew-8385295.php

Quote:

The Golden State Warriors’ three-year push to build an arena in San Francisco’s Mission Bay neighborhood passed a key hurdle Monday, as a judge ruled against a group that had filed multiple lawsuits to kill the project.

On Monday, Superior Court Judge Garrett Wong ruled that the city’s environmental review of the proposed arena was adequate, rejecting arguments it had failed to consider alternative sites for the arena.
More at the link above.

timbad Jul 19, 2016 8:05 AM

and of course, the socketsite blurb

timbad Nov 20, 2016 7:08 AM

first building permit! and mostly meaningless for the moment!

observatory Nov 21, 2016 7:21 PM

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Originally Posted by timbad (Post 7628331)
first building permit! and mostly meaningless for the moment!


Hopefully we'll hear some good news from the Court of Appeals this week or next!

1977 Nov 30, 2016 1:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by observatory (Post 7629289)
Hopefully we'll hear some good news from the Court of Appeals this week or next!

Quote:

The Golden State Warriors announced Tuesday that the team will be moving forward with their plans to build a new venue in San Francisco after the Warriors' environmental impact report (EIR) was upheld by a California court of appeals.

“We’re very pleased by the Appellate Court’s ruling,” Warriors COO Rick Welts said in a statement. “We engaged in an extensive public planning process and we were approved by every board, agency and regulatory body we went before.”

Opponents had argued that the EIR was flawed and reportedly didn't account for the rise in traffic and noise issues in the area.

The Chase Center is expected to open for the start of the 2019-20 season. The 18,000-seat arena will be located in Mission Bay, returning the team's home games to San Francisco for the first time since 1972. The Warriors currently play in Oakland at Oracle Arena.

Welts said the court’s ruling paves the way for the organization to break ground on the project.
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/w...-ruling-112916

don116 Dec 20, 2016 11:37 PM

The construction team set up a website. No groundbreaking yet, but it seems like they're one step closer to getting started.

http://www.gswconstruction.com/

minesweeper Dec 23, 2016 6:58 PM

The story's behind a paywall, but SFBT reports that work is set to begin in January:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...-alliance.html

Enigmatism415 Jan 4, 2017 1:38 AM

January 17th groundbreaking

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/0...-january-17th/

observatory Jan 7, 2017 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigmatism415 (Post 7666770)

This is awesome news!! How long have we been waiting for this now? :cheers:

Potrero Jan 9, 2017 5:57 PM

Construction Webcam
 
Edit: webcam link is now dead.

A webcam has been setup for the Chase Center Construction site. Nothing to see yet but should provide a nice view of the construction.

http://www.gswconstruction.com/webcam/

timbad Jan 15, 2017 5:33 AM

the Future
 
but apparently the Future is Here...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/638/32...a5a9223c_b.jpg

walking toward the site from the SE this afternoon I noticed profiles of drilling equipment, and overturned earth...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/362/31...35b3f643_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/742/31...0e91b085_b.jpg

and a tent and stage being set up for some sort of event with blue and yellow lights, hmmm

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/591/31...16d453c0_b.jpg

looking south from the roof of the South St garage:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/281/31...49705770_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/646/31...0964863a_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/472/32...4d7c7f62_b.jpg

WildCowboy will be happy to see that the vexing parking lot is still there for the moment

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5592/3...a26be89e_b.jpg

the northbound Muni stop that I think is to be lengthened to increase capacity for trains serving the arena

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/408/32...b89f1c46_b.jpg

WildCowboy Jan 16, 2017 3:09 PM

Thanks, timbad....that parking lot isn't long for this world!

The event they're setting up for would be the groundbreaking ceremony scheduled for tomorrow. Or maybe a blue and yellow themed Cirque du Soleil show? :)

don116 Jan 17, 2017 8:54 AM

I hope the ceremony will be open to the public. Anyone else planning on going?

WildCowboy Jan 17, 2017 5:35 PM

I can't imagine it would be open to the public...there's just a small stage for the speeches and ceremony and a few tents set up for the reception. No way it could handle a crush of thousands of people.

They're streaming it live on the Chase Center website though.


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