Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7344961)

While Katinka was definitely at 7351 Beverly Blvd., I don't believe Carolina Pines ever was . . .

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7345311)

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7345260)

I also spent a week at a Scout Camp, which is also known as Cherry Valley. I believe this was in 1956 approx. I did rowing and some hiking if I recall. I'll see if I have some photos of it. Its a short distance from Emerald Bay Camp.

Cherry Valley is one of the most rugged camps on the island due to its terrain and location. There were few trees and high canyon walls. Its low terrain is a cause for flooding at high tide. It was a hot and dusty place but the water was warm in the summer for swimming.

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7344822)

http://waterandpower.org/6%20Histori...EMCO_1960S.jpgValley Relics Museum

(1960's ) – View looking east on Ventura Boulevard showing GEMCO at 20801 Ventura Boulevard with ‘Chalk Hill’ in the distance. Just
up that hill were the restaurants Victoria Station and Charlie Brown. Across the street on the right is the Ridgewood Military Academy.

Originally Posted by C. King (Post 7345766)

I remember Cherry Valley, they were a "rival" camp down the coast from EB. EB was a more wide open canyon, and not the steep canyon walls that CV had. Tons of Oaks in camp. Wild boar running thru camp overnight. Got to see a few buffalo from the herd that was taken over there in the silent film era. I may have a 50 yr patch from the camp floating around here someplace.

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7345492)

Rose died in December 1938 at age 63. 7315 Melrose was also her home address. The Carolina Pines there lived on until 1962.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...2.jpg~original lat 9-16-62.

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7345916)

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7345916)

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7344961)

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3472/3...9c1408ce_b.jpg
Hollywood's Bar of Music
7351 Beverly Blvd.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3394/3...0e5786de_b.jpg


Marjorie Casper and Lt. Michael R. Rusnack
This photo was taken on March 7, 1943.

For additional prints write to Bar of Music- Pictures are $1.25 each, tax and mailing charges included.
Be sure to mention this date: March 7, 1943, and this no.: 15.

Michael attached a note on the back of the picture:


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I thought sure I'd heard of the Bar of Music before on NLA, but I haven't located anything.

In January, BifRayRock, on post #32931, quoted a 1929 amusement map referencing a place on Beverly Blvd. called The Cuckoo Clock and later in the post writes:

In 1930, the Cuckoo Clock was located at 7351 Beverly Blvd. Later became the "Katinka" and "The Carolina Pines."
In his post, the source of the referenced photo is this post by Chuckaluck:



While Katinka was definitely at 7351 Beverly Blvd., I don't believe Carolina Pines ever was, because E_R's post was inquiring about
the ad with Carolina Pines at 7351 Melrose Ave. (4 short blocks west of La Brea) and Chuckaluck happened to veer off on another tangent
with Katinka at 7351 Beverly Blvd. and then BRR joined the two together. In researching the location, however, I discovered that
Martin Turnbull's Garden of Allah site, now has this incorrect information as well.

Here's an exterior of the club: (I left it large to notice the building next to it--the blade sign and also painted on the side--is the Spanish Kitchen,
it's history and mystery mentioned previously on NLA, but no older photos of it!)

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/me...estaurante.jpgTripAdvisor

It's said to have a circular bar and behind this bar was a stage with two pianos on it, which
looks to be drawn on this napkin from the place. Phone: WEbstr-7811

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8051/8...195d05ce_b.jpgjericl cat/Flickr

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7345813)

What caught my eye in the last two images is the dome roughly in the center. After a bit of digging, I found it was the Valley Music Theater. From Wikipedia:

"The Valley Music Theater was built in 1963, as a concrete shell structure, by pouring a concrete 'dome' over a rounded hill of soil, then excavating the soil away. The theater project was backed by entertainers Bob Hope and Art Linkletter, along with Cy Warner."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
sanfernandovalleyblog.blogspot.com

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7346307)

Afternoon before a summer concert in 1965.

Let's see if anyone can guess who these boys are!

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7108449)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/909/Uukmu8.jpg



:previous: That's a good possibility CBD. I wish the TWA Skyliner was flying a bit higher.



I've been trying to figure out this building (circled below). My first thought was 'Truck Stop'. ( I am from the Midwest you know ;))

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/WdA6KA.jpg
detail

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7345287)

NCD, Apparently Midge and Michael were not to be. In looking at the source I got the photo from and reading more that
some followers of it wrote, and who believe their findings to be accurate, there's more information about these two:


Michael R. Rusnak was born in 1915, and was from Beaver, Pennsylvania, and enlisted in the Army Air Corps
as a private in December, 1940, at Fort MacArthur, San Pedro, CA.

Judging from the shape of the wings he is wearing, Michael was most likely a bombardier.

Lt. Michael R. Rusnak, only three months and 20 days after this photo was taken, was involved in an accident
and killed on June 27th, 1943, in a B-25, serial number: B-25C 41-12493, along with Horace S. Bowen, Jr.,
a Sgt. from Pennsylvania, Daniel F. Hall, SS (Staff Sgt.?) from Alabama, Gilbert P. Johnson, the pilot, a
2Lt. from Illinois, Mourse A. Nielsen, a 2Lt. from California and Joseph E. Redmen, a Sgt. from UN.
-- (UN - ? - might stand for unknown as another entry of his was blank.)
-- (In the report, Michael Rusnak is listed as a 2nd Lieutenant.)

(Michael Rusnak's brother (or other relative) also from Beaver, PA, John G. Rusnak, was also KIA on January 10, 1945.)

Michael was assigned to the 377th Bombardment Squadron of the 309th Bombardment Group, based at
Columbia Army Air Base in South Carolina and was killed when his ship crashed about 18 miles East
of Sandersville, Georgia while being piloted by 2Lt. Gilbert P. Johnson. The Action Code 'KCRU' indicates that
there were 6 fatalities (K) and that the aircraft crashed (CR). The 'U' most likely stands for 'unknown' or an
'undetermined' reason, as in 'cause unknown'.

:(

Sources:
www.usaafdata.com
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/s...493&Submit4=Go
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/help.htm#ACTION
http://www.ancestry.com
http://www.ww2wings.com/wings/usaaf/...mbardier.shtml

According to one of these sources that I was looking at that details USAAF accidents or worse in the Untied States,
I was pretty surprised at how many of them there are that have occurred over the years.

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7345492)

It's amazing how long Carolina Pines lasted! The founder, Rose P. Satterfield was from North Carolina; she came out to LA from Texas c. 1923 and had the first tea room at Melrose & Normandie by 1924- that must be the 4621 address.

In 1930 she brought a lawsuit against another restaurant using the similar name "Catalina Pines." She'd offered to sell its owners, Jacob & Mary Rosenberg, the Carolina Pines name for $150k (!) but they thought it was too steep. Catalina Pines seems to have gone away, anyway.

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7346497)

ok, so what happened with him and Bette Jo? This was March 1942.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...lle/3-9-42.jpg lat 3-9-42