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BillinGlendaleCA Sep 2, 2019 8:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 8675595)
I think this is a great image of the current ridge line trail...(from a friend's flickr stream) We don't see the Hollywood sign from this side very often...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...787d24ca_o.jpgPanorama looking north from 1,625 foot Mt Hollywood, Mitch Barrie

(Be sure to scroll right...)

That's 1,708 foot Mt Lee at left (with Hollywood sign below the summit); then 1,820 foot Cahuenga Peak just behind it to the right; then 1,614 foot Mt Chapel;
then 1,582 foot Mt Bell; and finally Mt Baby Bell to the right. M.B.

On loan from Mitch Barrie's photo stream. With Glendale/Burbank on the right and Cahuenga Pass somewhere in the foothill jumble below and to the left of Mt. Lee,
I think this offers a superior view of the ridge line trail.

I think one of the pictures that ER posted a few weeks ago was taken just to the right(out of frame). You can also see Mulholland "Highway" (actually a trail) from Mt. Lee Road to the left to Mt. Hollywood Road at the right below Mt. Chapel. Baby Mt. Bell is sometimes called "Taco Peak" and for about a year had a teahouse just below the summit.

https://live.staticflickr.com/462/19...e5466cb0_b.jpg20150714_150155 by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

MichaelRyerson Sep 2, 2019 9:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8675742)
I think one of the pictures that ER posted a few weeks ago was taken just to the right(out of frame). You can also see Mulholland "Highway" (actually a trail) from Mt. Lee Road to the left to Mt. Hollywood Road at the right below Mt. Chapel. Baby Mt. Bell is sometimes called "Taco Peak" and for about a year had a teahouse just below the summit.

https://live.staticflickr.com/462/19...e5466cb0_b.jpg20150714_150155 by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr


Oh, I think you're exactly right. They've obviously rebuilt the tea house over the years. Still looks good though, not too pristine.

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 2, 2019 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 8675773)
Oh, I think you're exactly right. They've obviously rebuilt the tea house over the years. Still looks good though, not too pristine.

Actually it was a flash project that a bunch of folk did one morning. Parks and Rec said it wouldn't work there and moved it about 6 months after it was built. They were planning putting it somewhere, but as far as I know, it's still in storage.

ETA: I guess it was only there for 2 months...Here's a bit more on it(and where it was): https://socalhiker.net/hike-to-the-g...park-teahouse/.

Beaudry Sep 3, 2019 1:38 AM

Thought this was pretty cool, a little bit of Old LA coming back, sorta kinda. More Perry Mason filming, images shot recently and posted to Instagram.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...ac9f5e82_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a15dd902_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...17ef7d32_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...99330013_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...220a2923_b.jpg

Handsome Stranger Sep 4, 2019 1:17 AM

Mount Wilson Hotel Resort?
 
I've been digging through boxes of family photos looking for pictures of my dad, who passed away quite recently. In one box I stumbled across this undated brochure. I don't think this attraction has been previously mentioned at Noirish Los Angeles, but I could be wrong.

https://i.postimg.cc/W1G1qhjq/MW-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/q7pMs4Mb/MW-2.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Dz5f5HS2/MW-3.jpg

If anyone can share additional photos or information about the hotel, it would be much appreciated.

Scott Charles Sep 4, 2019 1:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8676786)
I've been digging through boxes of family photos looking for pictures of my dad, who passed away quite recently.

My condolences, Handsome Stranger. My dad passed away just a few years ago, and I still miss him.

:(

T.J.P. Sep 4, 2019 5:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.J.P. (Post 8675479)
I know this is off topic, but I am cross-referencing filming locations from old TV shows and thought maybe one of you L.A. historians might recognize this building, which I suppose is somewhere in the Greater Los Angeles area.

The screen grabs are from productions that aired in 1985, but since they are stock footage from film libraries, they might have been photographed earlier.

www.flickr.com/photos/37847653@N05/48664848251/in/dateposted-public/
This first link shows the property in daylight. It is a screen grab from # 4.20 of "The Fall Guy", a 1985 episode entitled "Spring Break". It's just an establishing shot -- no scene for this episode was filmed at that location.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
There are two guards visible in the clip from "The Fall Guy", one on the balcony on the right and another one between the trees more to the left. This second link is just to show the size and height of the building in question.

The same property was featured in an explosion on "Falcon Crest" in 1985. That was stock footage, too. "Falcon" never filmed there either. Here are screen grabs from
"Falcon Crest":
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/378476...posted-public/

Sorry I was unable to post the photos right here. I tried to add them, but they remained invisible. So I added the links.

Does anyone have any idea what and where this might be?


No need to look any longer for the location I tried to identify. Somebody informed me it's Walker McCune's home at 6066 North Paradise View Drive in Paradise Valley, AZ. This seems to be correct. Thanks for taking a look to everyone!

ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2019 6:06 AM

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When a person thinks of cantilevered architecture most think of FLW's Fallingwater.


Few remember the cantilevered wing at the Huntington Hotel in Pasadena. [shown below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Z6oOWw.jpg

The Huntington Hotel and Swimming Pool, Pasadena California.






Seriously now:

Is it just me, or is this rppc creating an optical illusion?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/T7ZPdz.jpg
eBay


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ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2019 6:30 AM

I don't believe we have seen this RPPC on NLA.

John T. Harris Jeweler - Optical. (formerly Schepps & Harris) c.1911


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/jNs62v.jpg
Found a few days ago on eBay. No longer listed.

You can see the street number, 761 , between Jeweler and Optical.


THE REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/Q0SBiW.jpg


I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your father, Handsome Stranger.


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ethereal_reality Sep 4, 2019 6:50 AM

One more RPPC for tonight.

RPPC REAL PHOTO / Leo D. Hyer's House, 1576 W. 37th Place, Los Angeles California [c.1910]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/o0HvUK.jpg
eBay



For easier reading.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/CQxf7G.jpg


There's a possibility the home is still there...but I can't decide if it's the same house.

You can check it out for yourself HERE (it's about the same size..but the dormer is missing) :shrug:

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Scott Charles Sep 4, 2019 9:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8676966)
RPPC REAL PHOTO / Leo D. Hyer's House, 1576 W. 37th Place, Los Angeles California [c.1910]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/o0HvUK.jpg

There's a possibility the home is still there...but I can't decide if it's the same house.

You can check it out for yourself HERE (it's about the same size..but the dormer is missing) :shrug:

I think that the entire front section of the modern-day house is an add-on.

The roofs face in different directions in the old and the modern photo (90° from each other). Also, the winding path in the old photo is much longer than the modern-day front yard would allow.

If you get rid of the yellow section below, the house would pretty much match the layout of the old photo.

https://i.imgur.com/iEXBQTN.jpg

Also, the house in question is the only house on the street that doesn't sit back a good 20 feet from the sidewalk - which again makes me think that the yellow section in the photo above is an add-on.

https://i.imgur.com/7eyqGEc.gif

That's my guess and I'm sticking to it! :haha:

CityBoyDoug Sep 4, 2019 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8676953)
.

When a person thinks of cantilevered architecture most think of FLW's Fallingwater.


Few remember the cantilevered wing at the Huntington Hotel in Pasadena. [shown below]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Z6oOWw.jpg
...................................................................................Heavily damaged in the 1933 earthquake. The wing was removed a few years later.

The Huntington Hotel and Swimming Pool, Pasadena California.






Seriously now:

Is it just me, or is this rppc creating an optical illusion.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/T7ZPdz.jpg
eBay


.

As a kid, I dipped in that pool a few times. But what I remember most was the lush Bermuda grass on both sides of the pool. You even got a huge hotel towel to use. The public could use the pool for a dollar.

That hotel was my landing place for the Airport Bus in my Navy days. LAX <-> Huntington Hotel $3 one way....I think the bus left every two or three hours. We lived about 2 miles distant at that time.

Thanks ER for the memories. [I believe the ivy on the side of the hotel gives an illusion.]

GaylordWilshire Sep 4, 2019 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8676958)
I don't believe we have seen this RPPC on NLA.

John T. Harris Jeweler - Optical. (formerly Schepps & Harris) c.1911


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/jNs62v.jpg
Found a few days ago on eBay. No longer listed.

You can see the street number, 761 , between Jeweler and Optical.


THE REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/Q0SBiW.jpg


I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your father, Handsome Stranger.


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The name "Schepps" on the window got me wondering if there was a connection between "Formerly Schepps & Harris" and a well-known store here in NY, if not so much to tourists, who of course prefer initials and name recognition. Turns out there is a connection...

From https://www.freemansauction.com/news...seaman-schepps
"Born in New York City in 1881, Seaman Schepps created an eponymous jewelry house, becoming known as “America’s Court Jeweler” for his unique, bold designs, worn by the country’s most prominent society families.

The son of immigrants, his humble beginnings led him to sit outside of the boutique of quintessential New York jeweler David Webb and sketch drawings for his own designs. Schepps left the Lower East Side of Manhattan around the turn of the century, finding work as a traveling salesman in Los Angeles and San Francisco. It was in California that he opened his first jewelry store, “The Virginia Studios,” named for his eldest daughter.

After returning to New York in 1921 with his wife and two children, Schepps opened a store on 6th Avenue, near the storied Algonquin Hotel. He expanded a few years later to a second location, but the stock market crash of 1929 forced Schepps to shutter both shops. The sudden forced closure lasted five years, during which time here focused his business strategy, and when Schepps reopened in 1934at a new location on Madison Avenue, he had developed his own exclusive jewelry designs."


http://seamanschepps.com/

https://i.postimg.cc/1tQ2hTq7/seamanschepps-bmp.jpgGSV


But back to Los Angeles. Schepps appears to have first had a store, one without Harris in the name, at 621 S. Broadway, as early as 1909. Here is news from the LAT of Oct 3, 1920, on Schepps's Virginia Studios:

https://i.postimg.cc/XNFKyJt5/SSpic-LAT-bmp.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/XY9tH4ZB/SSarticle1-bmp.jpg

Noir_Noir Sep 4, 2019 12:53 PM

1576 W 37th Place
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8676994)


With apologies for the poor wanton commandeering of your graphic Scott Charles. :yes:



The original 1907 house was a tiny ol' thing.


First add-on to the rear in 1919.

https://i.imgur.com/jnvYOkv.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org



Second add-on to the front in 1936.

https://i.imgur.com/DAEhPAh.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org



Resulting in


https://i.imgur.com/lDlBKqu.jpg

odinthor Sep 4, 2019 4:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8677025)
The name "Schepps" on the window got me wondering if there was a connection between "Formerly Schepps & Harris" and a well-known store here in NY, if not so much to tourists, who of course prefer initials and name recognition. Turns out there is a connection...

From https://www.freemansauction.com/news...seaman-schepps
"Born in New York City in 1881, Seaman Schepps created an eponymous jewelry house, becoming known as “America’s Court Jeweler” for his unique, bold designs, worn by the country’s most prominent society families.

The son of immigrants, his humble beginnings led him to sit outside of the boutique of quintessential New York jeweler David Webb and sketch drawings for his own designs. Schepps left the Lower East Side of Manhattan around the turn of the century, finding work as a traveling salesman in Los Angeles and San Francisco. It was in California that he opened his first jewelry store, “The Virginia Studios,” named for his eldest daughter.

After returning to New York in 1921 with his wife and two children, Schepps opened a store on 6th Avenue, near the storied Algonquin Hotel. He expanded a few years later to a second location, but the stock market crash of 1929 forced Schepps to shutter both shops. The sudden forced closure lasted five years, during which time here focused his business strategy, and when Schepps reopened in 1934at a new location on Madison Avenue, he had developed his own exclusive jewelry designs."


http://seamanschepps.com/

https://i.postimg.cc/1tQ2hTq7/seamanschepps-bmp.jpgGSV


But back to Los Angeles. Schepps appears to have first had a store, one without Harris in the name, at 621 S. Broadway, as early as 1909. Here is news from the LAT of Oct 3, 1920, on Schepps's Virginia Studios:

https://i.postimg.cc/XNFKyJt5/SSpic-LAT-bmp.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/XY9tH4ZB/SSarticle1-bmp.jpg


===========================

It seems in keeping with Noirishness to look a moment into the demise of Mr. John T. Harris, "Successor to Schepps & Harris" (but not for very long . . . ):

https://i.postimg.cc/sX3rXW7c/John-THarris2-14-12.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DySK8nJt/Harris2-20-12.jpg
both images from L.A. Times (dates as given in the images) via ProQuest via CSULB Library. Layout of articles rearranged for your viewing pleasure.

Does it strike me as interesting that "a young man, who works as an accountant at the club, was at work in Harris' room from 8 o'clock until 11 yesterday morning. He says he heard Harris snore. Manager Witt says that he does not know the name of this young man"? Nope, nothing odd at all about any of that. Company accountants in social clubs frequently do their best work in the rooms of guests of the establishment; and how can managers be expected to know the names of office employees? And I'm certain that the fact that this was the night before Valentine's Day is a mere happenstance. Fie on anyone who would see anything out of the ordinary in any of this!

Kidding aside, sorry, Mr. Harris, you had to live a life of personal and social challenges, with such an end.

GaylordWilshire Sep 4, 2019 4:56 PM

:previous:


More on Schepps in LA--apparently he was a BSD at the LAAC, which is interesting considering that J. T. Harris died at the club, as odinthor has just dicovered:

https://i.postimg.cc/02JwRt1D/famouschepps1-bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/KYKzBjcL/seamanscheppsinc-bmp.jpg
LAHerald Aug 3, 1908/Apr 13, 1909

Scott Charles Sep 4, 2019 4:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8677051)
With apologies for the poor wanton commandeering of your graphic Scott Charles. :yes:

The original 1907 house was a tiny ol' thing.

First add-on to the rear in 1919.

https://i.imgur.com/jnvYOkv.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

Second add-on to the front in 1936.

https://i.imgur.com/DAEhPAh.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

Resulting in

https://i.imgur.com/lDlBKqu.jpg

Wow, great sleuthing there, Noir_Noir! That old house seems to have about tripled in size!

Earl Boebert Sep 4, 2019 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8677324)
===========================

It seems in keeping with Noirishness to look a moment into the demise of Mr. John T. Harris, "Successor to Schepps & Harris" (but not for very long . . . ):

https://i.postimg.cc/sX3rXW7c/John-THarris2-14-12.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DySK8nJt/Harris2-20-12.jpg
both images from L.A. Times (dates as given in the images) via ProQuest via CSULB Library. Layout of articles rearranged for your viewing pleasure.

Does it strike me as interesting that "a young man, who works as an accountant at the club, was at work in Harris' room from 8 o'clock until 11 yesterday morning. He says he heard Harris snore. Manager Witt says that he does not know the name of this young man"? Nope, nothing odd at all about any of that. Company accountants in social clubs frequently do their best work in the rooms of guests of the establishment; and how can managers be expected to know the names of office employees? And I'm certain that the fact that this was the night before Valentine's Day is a mere happenstance. Fie on anyone who would see anything out of the ordinary in any of this!

Kidding aside, sorry, Mr. Harris, you had to live a life of personal and social challenges, with such an end.

Sounds like a classic case of sleep apnea. History of heart trouble and audible snoring.

Earl

Flyingwedge Sep 4, 2019 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8676786)
I've been digging through boxes of family photos looking for pictures of my dad, who passed away quite recently. In one box I stumbled across this undated brochure. I don't think this attraction has been previously mentioned at Noirish Los Angeles, but I could be wrong.

https://i.postimg.cc/W1G1qhjq/MW-1.jpg

If anyone can share additional photos or information about the hotel, it would be much appreciated.

My condolences too, HS.


The hotel in this October 22, 1930, photo appears to be the same building shown in your brochure. Please note the tree behind the hotel
at the center of the photo:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pse1hbvbxy.jpg

248055 @ Huntington Digital Library



This c. 1907 photo shows an earlier version of the Mount Wilson Hotel before it burned down in 1913. The tree I've arrowed is the same
one that's behind the hotel in the center of the previous photo:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...ps4ekldlhm.jpg

24883 @ Huntington Digital Library


There are other photos of both versions of the Mount Wilson Hotel at the Huntington Digital Library.

odinthor Sep 4, 2019 8:38 PM

I became interested in John T. Harris' home address, 600 S. Coronado St.:

https://i.postimg.cc/y8RLpMQx/600-SCoronado-Summary.jpg

(Oops, I forgot to caption that last one from 1906: It's from the LA Times of July 15, 1906.)

It seems to have been a single family residence early on, and apartments later.

Now if I only had a picture of the place! The address appears to be just barely off the 1909 Bird's Eye map of L.A.


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