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ethereal_reality Jul 23, 2015 8:02 PM

Kodachrome slide, 1959.


Back when there were hand painted signs.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/AhV84H.jpg
eBay

ethereal_reality Jul 23, 2015 8:08 PM

Here's an interesting ' RED LEAD' ad from 1964 showing the Elysian Viaduct Bridge ramp.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...910/8nvFyO.jpg
eBay / under paper

Lead Industries Assoc.

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FLL David Jul 23, 2015 10:40 PM

And Bert Lahr (the Cowardly Lion), and high kicking Charlotte Greenwood

ethereal_reality Jul 23, 2015 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7101789)
This 'mystery' snapshot from the 1920s has all kinds of written 'clues', but I can't make heads or tails out of it.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...912/rVmONH.jpg
eBay

in white border:
"These Hollywood Quizz Kids & I. Watched girls on side walk instead of camera."
"SPL Packard Speedster"

in black border:
"Chauffeur for Rudolph Valentino" (with arrow pointing toward photograph)
"These are not his kids, movie stars and relatives kids."
"Rudolph Valentino liked me because my name was Rood(?)."
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If you look closely, there is a movie camera in front of the car. (and it looks like the car is being towed)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/I3h6eD.jpg

There's also a mighty fine house in the background.

I believe this is from the same seller that had the photographs I posted back in May showing a silent movie being filmed at the Muller Bros. Service Station. (6380 Sunset Blvd.)

Here's the earlier post:
http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=28764

:previous::):previous:




I just came across this photograph on eBay that I believe shows the man that claims he was Rudolph Valentino's chauffeur in my earlier post above.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/u5jNTM.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1927...item2802ece7a3

R.H. Rood
February 27-1927
(at the Ostrich Farm)


I located his home address in the 1927 Los Angeles City Directory (and he's listed as a chauf!)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...673/WXosC7.jpg
lapl

408 N. Hill Street



And I'm pretty sure this second photograph shows Mr. Rood's traveling companion on his trip out to the Ostrich Farm.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/6hwcvm.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1927...item5b14e3737d

tovangar2 Jul 23, 2015 11:57 PM

R.H. Rood / Walker Apartments / Rudolph Valentino / 1927
 
:previous:

Wait, is this the same fella?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7041644)
408 N. Hill Street, 2 blocks from City Hall, circa. 1927.

"Mrs. Cern (landlady) and I"
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/6DE5HW.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1927...00363532&rt=nc


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alanlutz Jul 24, 2015 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7105208)
It sounds as if you have a fascinating second career Alan. Good for you!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/ZqnavY.jpg
http://matterhorn1959.blogspot.com/2...1_archive.html

A tourist taking a photograph and two Jungle Cruise employees (the boat loader, left, and the boat skipper under the awning), 1960s.

-note the name of the boat....the Nile Princess. (is there still a 'Nile Princess' today?)

Thanks guys, yes It is a great job working at the Happiest Place on Earth and being a Jungle Cruise Skipper. Yes, we do still have a Nile Princess. It is one of the two wheelchair loading boats we have, the other being Ucayali Una, although we usually only have one on the river at a time, the other being in rehab. There are 12 in all according to this wikipedia article and 9 in the usual we run at one time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Cruise
Thanks for the photos of the original African Queen, T2 and the 60s one, ER.

ethereal_reality Jul 24, 2015 2:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7105525)
:previous:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/a88rWM.jpg

Wait, is this the same fella?

:previous: OMG, you're right t2! That's 408 N. Hill Street. I had forgotten about that snapshot.

I really despise when sellers on eBay break up photo albums so they can sell the photographs individually in order to make more money.
Together the photographs tell a complete story. If they're sold individually, we're lucky to piece them together to understand the original narrative. :(

It's quite frustrating.

Noircitydame Jul 24, 2015 4:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7105651)
I really despise when sellers on eBay break up photo albums so they can sell the photographs individually in order to make more money.
Together the photographs tell a complete story. If they're sold individually, we're lucky to piece them together to understand the original narrative. :(

It's quite frustrating.


I agree. I won't buy from them. Same goes for letters and scrapbooks.

oldstuff Jul 24, 2015 2:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 7105574)
Thanks guys, yes It is a great job working at the Happiest Place on Earth and being a Jungle Cruise Skipper. Yes, we do still have a Nile Princess. It is one of the two wheelchair loading boats we have, the other being Ucayali Una, although we usually only have one on the river at a time, the other being in rehab. There are 12 in all according to this wikipedia article and 9 in the usual we run at one time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Cruise
Thanks for the photos of the original African Queen, T2 and the 60s one, ER.

As for the picture above, you can certainly tell how long ago it was since the trees and the Oldham bamboo currently are about 70-80 feet tall.

oldstuff Jul 24, 2015 3:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7105450)
:previous::):previous:




I just came across this photograph on eBay that I believe shows the man that claims he was Rudolph Valentino's chauffeur in my earlier post above.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/u5jNTM.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1927...item2802ece7a3

R.H. Rood
February 27-1927
(at the Ostrich Farm)


I located his home address in the 1927 Los Angeles City Directory (and he's listed as a chauf!)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...673/WXosC7.jpg
lapl

408 N. Hill Street



And I'm pretty sure this second photograph shows Mr. Rood's traveling companion on his trip out to the Ostrich Farm.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/6hwcvm.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1927...item5b14e3737d

Here is a short bio on Ralph H. Rood, the supposed chauffer of Rudolph Valentino:

Ralph Harrison Rood was born in Elkhart, Indiana on May 25, 1895, the son of Wilson Rood, who was a manufacturer of tile. He registered for the draft in WWI, living in Elkhart, Indiana. In 1917 he married a Terol King (spelled Ferol in the 1920 Census). They lived in Goshen, Indiana. They were divorced before 1930 when she remarried in Chicago.

A 1924 Voter registration shows that he is in Los Angeles, living at 115 A. North Olive and he is listed then as a chauffer. He then appears in 1930 at the Hill Street address in Los Angeles, divorced and working as a chauffer. He is not found in the 1940 Census, but a voter registration for 1944 shows him living on Grand in Los Angeles. The viewer is having problems today so the street number is not legible. A 1948 directory of Goshen, Indiana, shows him living there with his mother, who is listed as being a widow of Wilson, and he was working as a carpenter. He was living in San Diego in 1966, from information in a directory. Mr. Rood died in San Diego in December of 1977.

ethereal_reality Jul 24, 2015 6:21 PM

:previous: Excellent information oldstuff! Thanks so much.
I've tried to find excerpts from various Valentino biographies in hopes of finding a mention of his chauffeur by name. -no luck yet.






-mid-century modern:

Snapshot of 3000 Clyde Avenue, 1950s. (just north of W. Jefferson Blvd.)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/McJXoQ.jpg
eBay


and today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/dHlADc.jpg
gsv




It's located next to some pretty intense looking power lines.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/GwJgSj.jpg
gsv





In this aerial the power lines are at top. (there's a second garage in the back) -or maybe it's a rental property.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/d18rXG.jpg
google earth



notice that the high-voltage power-lines are missing in the 1950s views. the owner must have been pretty pissed when they erected them so close to his house.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...909/c9KPxU.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...912/HJFZrU.jpg
eBay

tovangar2 Jul 24, 2015 6:30 PM

The 20s craze for all things Egyptian-style
 
Just one more Egyptian-style building. This one, a ten-unit garden apartment complex, was built in 1925. It's at 1426 S Bonnie Brae in Pico-Union, just 1/2 block from Terrace Park on Alvarado Terrace. Check out that monumental door-case one can see through the archway (the winged sun symbol above the arch is repeated on each unit's entrance)...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e...10706%2BAM.jpg
gsv

and note the bas-relief images on the archway surround. I wonder if they were originally painted in bright colors?:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-J...13302%2BAM.jpg
gsv

...because they were blue in 2007:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8...15200%2BAM.jpg
gsv

And whoa, that palm tree. It's still alive, but its mates on either side are dead.

ethereal_reality Jul 24, 2015 6:37 PM

Bellevue Court in Pasadena, circa 1924.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...901/DVz4JC.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/SGTotq.jpg
eBay

S. Marengo Avenue (but no street number)

C. King Jul 24, 2015 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7106499)
Bellevue Court in Pasadena, circa 1924.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...901/DVz4JC.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/SGTotq.jpg
eBay

S. Marengo Avenue (but no street number)

ER,

Looks like the court is still there. Present GSV views show the bungalows having addys in the mid 400 blk of Marengo. Look on the east side of Marengo Ave., 2 blks north of California Blvd. Marengo is one blk east of Arroyo Parkway.

Hope that helps.

tovangar2 Jul 24, 2015 8:07 PM

Bellevue Bungalow Court, Pasadena
 
:previous:

427 S Marengo, corner of E Bellevue Dr may well be it. The building at the apex looks as though it is now single-story though.

Street widening, remodeling and landscaping make it hard to tell.


I'm a dope. I was looking on the wrong side of the street.

The bungalow court is at No. 446.

ethereal_reality Jul 24, 2015 8:07 PM

C. King, is this the court bungalows you spotted?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/RkjvnD.jpg
gsv



There are two lamp poles in the courtyard (just like the ones in the photograph from 1924)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/QkEcGj.jpg
detail

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/GjRf16.jpg



Here's a closer look at the front bungalow on the right. (I'd sure like to see inside)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/5lVIty.jpg
gsv



And finally, a view of the bungalows from Bellevue Drive.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/XA0Eos.jpg
gsv

:previous: Courtyard apartments work better when they're located mid-block. There's no excuse for having the back of buildings facing a street. ugh!


Thanks for your help C. King :)

ethereal_reality Jul 24, 2015 8:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7106486)

...because they were blue in 2007:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8...15200%2BAM.jpg
gsv

:previous: Good eye t2. I never thought of looking back to 2007.

Flyingwedge Jul 24, 2015 9:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7106467)

-mid-century modern:

Snapshot of 3000 Clyde Avenue, 1950s. (just north of W. Jefferson Blvd.)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/McJXoQ.jpg
eBay

and today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/dHlADc.jpg
gsv

It's located next to some pretty intense looking power lines.

In this aerial the power lines are at top. (there's a second garage in the back) -or maybe it's a rental property.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/d18rXG.jpg
google earth

notice that the high-voltage power-lines are missing in the 1950s views. the owner must have been pretty pissed when they erected them so close to his house.

3000 Clyde was built on the site of short-lived Spartan Field, which was at 2801 Clyde. On the lower map, the street that hits Jefferson in the lower right corner is probably Hauser Blvd:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...v.jpg~original
Airway Bulletin No. 940, March 1, 1930 @ HathiTrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=285

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...k.jpg~original
Airway Bulletin No. 940, March 1, 1930 @ HathiTrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=286

Spartan Field was gone by February 1931:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original
Air Commerce Bulletin v. 2 No. 15, February 2, 1931 @ HathiTrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=404

This c. 1940 Spence Air Photo looks south at the Baldwin Hills. The two streets entering the hills are La Brea at left and Moynier Lane (now La Cienega) at right by the 57.
The former Spartan Field site is in the triangular area near the lower right corner. The intersection at the area's southwest corner is Moyner/La Cienega and Jefferson Blvd.
The street that runs through houses left to right near the bottom of the photo is Blackwelder Street, whose western terminus is at Clyde. Clyde's southern terminus is at
the edge of the old Spartan Field site, about where the utility line right-of-way is today.
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original
Photo from Rancho Cienega o Paso de la Tijera by Virginia French (John D. Roche, Inc., Los Angeles, 1970)

The Spartan Field site today, looking north:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...l.jpg~original
GoogleEarth

C. King Jul 24, 2015 9:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7106620)
C. King, is this the court bungalows you spotted?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/RkjvnD.jpg
gsv



There are two lamp poles in the courtyard (just like the ones in the photograph from 1924)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/QkEcGj.jpg
detail

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/GjRf16.jpg



Here's a closer look at the front bungalow on the right. (I'd sure like to see inside)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/5lVIty.jpg
gsv



And finally, a view of the bungalows from Bellevue Drive.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/XA0Eos.jpg
gsv

:previous: I think courtyard apartments work better when they're located mid-block. We're only seeing the back-side of each bungalow .


Thanks for your help C. King :)

Yup! That's the one. :) Used to pass it on my way to work when I lived in Pasadena little over 10 yrs ago.

ethereal_reality Jul 24, 2015 11:16 PM

I don't believe we've seen this image on NLA.

"Los Angeles City Hall seen from US 101 and Interstate 110 interchange. 1950"
(photograph taken near Sunset Blvd. and Figueroa Street)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/OfFnyR.jpg
http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/vie...198/zz0002qqw5

I'm curious about several things.



What's up with the crazy chimney flues? Does anyone know what building this is?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/9rW7PT.jpg
detail





To the right of City Hall we get a glimpse at the top of the Hall of Records building.
(I've never seen the rooftop flag-pole so prominent....so I was a little perplexed at first)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/fofVK2.jpg
detail




Here's a detail of the lower right edge of the photograph. I think that's a Café sign (red arrow). -and what is 'Challange' advertising?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/CLAuMb.jpg
detail








Here's the complete photograph as it appears in the UCLA Digital Archives.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/s1tKWN.jpg
http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/vie...198/zz0002qqw5

So glad UCLA added the zoom feature.
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ethereal_reality Jul 24, 2015 11:37 PM

Spartan Field


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/McJXoQ.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7106775)
3000 Clyde (above) was built on the site of short-lived Spartan Field, which was at 2801 Clyde.
On the lower map, the street that hits Jefferson in the lower right corner is probably Hauser Blvd:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...v.jpg~original
Airway Bulletin No. 940, March 1, 1930 @ HathiTrust -- http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?i...ew=1up;seq=285


This c. 1940 Spence Air Photo looks south at the Baldwin Hills.
The former Spartan Field site is in the triangular area near the lower right corner.
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...w.jpg~original
Photo from Rancho Cienega o Paso de la Tijera by Virginia French (John D. Roche, Inc., Los Angeles)

:previous: It's so great to see the giant 57.

Thanks for the information on Spartan Field Flyingwedge!
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ethereal_reality Jul 25, 2015 1:20 AM

I recently came across these two snapshots on eBay. (the seller is asking $150.00)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...907/6rRYFW.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LASKY-RANCH-...item35eb6b6a86



I've enlarged them for you.

3-19-1925
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/DlqXq4.jpg
eBay




3-19-1925
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/4gJlHR.jpg
eBay

I wonder who the visitors were? Dignitaries?
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Site of Lasky Ranch.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/GP5iUH.jpg
https://silentlocations.files.wordpr...dy_page_11.jpg

:previous: "The former Lasky Ranch, bordering Griffith Park near Burbank, and future site of Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills Memorial Park.
Once part of the Spanish-era Rancho Providencia, the Lasky Ranch was used for more than three decades as a filming location."



Just for Fun. Famous Players Lasky (1916). Star Power!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/HivJio.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famous...yers_Lasky.jpg

# # # # #

As I was finishing my post, I came across information about a second Lasky Ranch. This one was called 'Lasky Mesa' ranch.

details here:
http://www.moviesites.org/laskymesa.htm
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ProphetM Jul 25, 2015 3:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7106853)
I don't believe we've seen this image on NLA.

"Los Angeles City Hall seen from US 101 and Interstate 110 interchange. 1950"
(photograph taken near Sunset Blvd. and Figueroa Street)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/OfFnyR.jpg
http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/vie...198/zz0002qqw5

I'm curious about several things.




Here's a detail of the lower right edge of the photograph. I think that's a Café sign (red arrow). -and what is 'Challange' advertising? ice_something

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/CLAuMb.jpg
detail


Ice cream, certainly. Their product line seems to be just butter and cream cheese now, but Challenge is still very much a going concern. I recognized the logo immediately as it's not much different today:

http://challengedairy.com/

Challenge butter is a common sight in supermarkets around here; I assumed it was well-known so I was a little surprised you didn't recognize them.

Regarding Bellevue Courts, last spring I did some research and even made a map of historic bungalow courts in Pasadena:

NRHP bungalow courts in Pasadena

Bellevue Court was built in 1916 in Colonial Revival style and consists of 8 individual units, plus one two-story triplex at the back. It was included in a 1983 group nomination of 27 bungalow courts to the National Register of Historic Places. It was determined eligible but was not added to the NRHP due to the owner's objection.

Flyingwedge Jul 25, 2015 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7106853)
I don't believe we've seen this image on NLA.

"Los Angeles City Hall seen from US 101 and Interstate 110 interchange. 1950"
(photograph taken near Sunset Blvd. and Figueroa Street)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/OfFnyR.jpg
http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/vie...198/zz0002qqw5

I'm curious about several things.

What's up with the crazy chimney flues? Does anyone know what building this is?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/9rW7PT.jpg
detail

It looks like the St. Angelo Hotel at 237 N. Grand:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original
UCLA Digital Library, previously posted by er: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1203

tovangar2 Jul 25, 2015 6:23 AM

The St. Angelo Hotel at 237 N Grand, Bunker Hill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7107039)
It looks like the St. Angelo Hotel at 237 N. Grand:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original
UCLA Digital Library, previously posted by er: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1203

Thank you. I hadn't remembered those extraordinary, branching flues at all. What a contrast with the new freeway exchange.

Apparently they were not original:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...10719%2BPM.jpg
historic hotels of los angeles and hollywood, page 34

...but, they're in all the 1950s pix:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...04536%2BPM.jpg
huntington dl (detail from a selection of 8 color images)

More info on the St Angelo from On Bunker Hill

CityBoyDoug Jul 25, 2015 6:40 AM

St Angelo Hotel...life in the big city.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7107125)
Thank you. I hadn't remembered those extraordinary, branching flues at all. What a contrast with the new freeway exchange.

Apparently they were not original:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...10719%2BPM.jpg
historic hotels of los angeles and hollywood, page 34

...but, they're in all the 1950s pix:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...04536%2BPM.jpg
huntington dl (detail from a selection of 8 color images)

More info on the St Angelo from On Bunker Hill

No boarding house on Bunker Hill would be complete without a bit of death and mayhem. In 1906, Charles Malan, a Frenchman suffering from consumption and depleted funds, did himself in by sealing off all the doors and cracks of his room and turning on the gas.

Then there is the sad story of Frederick Merrill, an 87 year old inventor and resident who slipped on a banana peel on Main Street and died from his injuries a couple of weeks later.

Finally, in 1943 a fight broke out in the hotel's lobby and Mrs. Mae Perry, the hotel manager, broke up the scuffle...with a gun. Rubio Ernesto, 17 and not a hotel guest was killed in the incident.

HossC Jul 25, 2015 1:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7106970)

Site of Lasky Ranch.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/GP5iUH.jpg
https://silentlocations.files.wordpr...dy_page_11.jpg

:previous: "The former Lasky Ranch, bordering Griffith Park near Burbank, and future site of Forest Lawn Hollywood Hills Memorial Park.
Once part of the Spanish-era Rancho Providencia, the Lasky Ranch was used for more than three decades as a filming location."

Here's the same area in the mid-40s. I found the picture below in an article called Burbankers Remember on wesclark.com. About halfway down the page is a section titled "The Ranch (1946), by Richard Dixon", which details how, as an eleven-year-old boy, Richard witnessed the filming of A Boy and His Dog on the movie ranch managed by his father. To whet your appetites, here are a couple of the early paragraphs:
This ranch had once been the Lasky-Paramount movie ranch back in the very early days of film making. Cecil B. DeMille once shot parts of Squaw Man (1914) there. Also, D.W. Griffith shot scenes for Intolerance (1916) here as well. The studio moved most of the standing sets up the coast to Agora in 1924 and opened the new Paramount Ranch there, but this entire area remained a film shooting location and on this day the movie was being shot, literally, right in our front yard.

My father had taken a job as manager of part of this movie ranch which was just across the L.A. River from Warner Brothers Studio. We lived up at the foot of Mt. Lee, just over the crest from the Hollywood sign. We were on the east side of the mountain facing the San Fernando Valley. It was the end of my Catalina Street adventure and the beginning of another very special time of my childhood.
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
wesclark.com

The author also provides a 2012 image of the area here. I chose to do my own.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Google Earth

ethereal_reality Jul 25, 2015 5:36 PM

:previous: Wow! Thanks Hoss!

ethereal_reality Jul 25, 2015 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7107125)

So what was gained by branching the flues? Does anyone know?
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Thanks for recognizing the St. Angelo Hotel in the first place Flyingwedge
and for digging up the noirish backstories CityBoyDoug

ethereal_reality Jul 25, 2015 5:59 PM

There's a Hudkins connection with an earlier post from several weeks ago.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/aG5EbA.jpg
originally posted by HossC

re: Boxer 'Ace' Hudkins
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...673/Ut4Cxc.jpg
https://movieland.wordpress.com/2007...atman-trigger/

Here's Ace at the Hudkins Bros. Ranch & Stables.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...907/hz33Mj.jpg
http://www.westernclippings.com/trea...llery_21.shtml

excerpt:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...905/h95w4W.jpg
http://a-drifting-cowboy.blogspot.co...d-whizzer.html


A pre-dawn delivery of Hudkins Bros. movies horses to Iverson Ranch in Chatsworth .
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/KMDQyD.jpg
http://a-drifting-cowboy.blogspot.co...d-whizzer.html

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Here's the earlier post.

'mystery girl'
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/UDrP8T.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7088169)
It looks like 16-year-old Ione Gail Murphy, aka Patsy Gail, was the alleged victim of an assault by Arthur Hudkins at a "wild party".

July 30, 1928
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...oneMurphy1.jpg
www.newspapers.com


dannywa01 Jul 25, 2015 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7102679)
I could not resist looking at dannywa01's "new" neighborhood, S Wilton Place from Pico to Venice in Mid-City:

This is the place in 1910 when Pico Blvd was "Pico Street", W 15th through here was "Dorchester" and Venice was still called "16th Street". Three institutions then dominated the neighborhood:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...64146%2BPM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1910 (detail)

dannywa01's two blocks of S Wilton Place:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0...15029%2BAM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1910 (detail)

The Los Angeles Country Club (mentioned many times on the thread, this is just a tiny recap) was started as the Los Angeles Golf Club in 1897 on land that is now centered on Alvarado Terrace. Too cramped, LACC briefly moved to 16th (Venice) and Hobart, then on to the nearby premises shown on the map below, at the NW corner of Pico and Western, where they built their first 18-hole course. In 1911 LACC decamped to West LA, to a parcel just north of 20th-Century Fox studios, where they remain. The grounds of the club's former premises were platted into house lots and built out.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M...94006%2BPM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1910 (detail)

Eleven years later (compare with the map immediately above):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R...00705%2BAM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1921 (detail)

This photo taken looking north towards Hollywood up Western from Pico in 1898 gives an idea of the lay of the land before anything was built. Just two years later, LACC will take over an irregularly-shaped parcel on the left, siting their clubhouse near the intersection. After the club departed, this area was converted to residential use and became known as Country Club Park:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...90047%2BAM.jpg
cc pierce/usc dl

The same view today:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...73645%2BAM.jpg
gsv

"Harvard College", later "Harvard School" and now Harvard-Westlake, (the school has also come up multiple times on the thread) was established, originally as a military school, in 1900 at the site shown on the first map above, at W 16th St (Venice Blvd) and Western. Thirty-seven years later, thwarted in their attempt to move to Westwood, they relocated to the defunct Hollywood Country Club grounds at the Valley end of Coldwater Canyon. The school's former location is now Western Plaza Shopping Center. There's a big Food 4 Less there, a CVS, a Factory 2U and some other shops.

The original Harvard College/School building, "Harvard Hall", by Arthur Burnette Benton (1900), faced on Western Avenue:


Today the site is Western Plaza Shopping Center:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...74544%2BAM.jpg
gsv

The Good Shepherd House is a Catholic charity which provided, and still provides, services to women and their children. As part of their mission, they ran a girls' high school on the northern end of their property from 1905 until 1977. When the school ceased operations, the land was sold to LAUSD. Pio Pico Middle School is there now and uses two of the historic structures from the former high school. Good Shepherd retreated to the southern end of the property at the corner of Arlington and Venice behind a big hedge. The Sisters continue to maintain a shelter for victims of domestic violence:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d...74247%2BAM.jpg
gsv

Good Shepherd (SW corner with pool below) now shares its original site with Pio Pico Middle School:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2...01912%2BAM.jpg
gvs

The streets surrounded by Good Shepherd, LACC and Harvard School were built with large homes of wood and stucco during the first two decades of the last century. Good brick apartments and 4-plexes provided infill in the 1920s. More modern apartments have replaced many of the homes. About twelve of the original houses remain on S Wilton Place, between Pico and Venice, most in good repair.

This one, for example, from 1910 is at No. 1422:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U...91854%2BAM.jpg
gsv

Another at No.1527, also from 1910, features an unusual roof line:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...24719%2BPM.jpg
gsv

One of the 1920s apartments is No. 1310 (1927):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...10130%2BPM.jpg
gsv

A generous four-plex (1922) at No. 1321:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...80401%2BAM.jpg
gsv

_____________________________________________________________________




All thx go to Beaudry. He's the one who so generously gave us the info re building permit searches. I put that one up so he'd know I do pay attention....sometimes :-)

(now if the city would just cross-reference them by architect & contractor!)

You are a god send! Thanks so much t2 & Beaudry for the history lesson! I tried so hard to look for old pictures of my old middle school "Pio Pico Span School", but all I could find was just information that I already knew. I know the school used to be an all girls catholic school owned by the "Sisters of the Good Sheperd" and that they still use two of the former buldings (the gym & the rose cottage). The only new information I came across was a possible name (Pelletier High School). During the time I worked there afterschool, I would hear rumors of the rose cottage being haunted by a little girl and a monk in a robe. I tried looking for some pictures of the school, but ended up empty handed. I think I might stop by the actual Sisters place and ask for some information. I also once worked at that Food4Less on that plaza (Venice and Western), so I frequented that place many times. All the houses you pointed out on my block are fascinating and have always caught my attention. Thank you very much for the history lesson.

Earl Boebert Jul 25, 2015 8:33 PM

A Noirish shot from "The Case of the Substitute Face," 1958. Anybody recognize the house Perry and Paul are walking up to?

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Perry1.jpg

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Jul 25, 2015 8:57 PM

"Old Charter" bourbon mural

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...633/oU9Vdh.jpg
detail / mural



Frank's Liquor 12329 Prairie Ave. Hawthorne CA.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/PzCU5g.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/1577/rec/1

"Thought it appears stylistically to be much older, this mural was actually painted on Frank's Liquor store in 1968 by MGM Studios as part of a location shot
for the movie "Zabriskie Point" by Michelangelo Antonioni."



Frank's Liquor today :(. The mural is long gone.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/YRMaoV.jpg

The shamrock topped blade sign is gone as well.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/YT61Jw.jpg
detail






Here's the liquor store scene in "Zabriskie Point".


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/3qTqjN.jpg
http://www.idyllopuspress.com/idyllopus/film/z_3.htm

:previous: I was surprised to see the Giant Man.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/w0Ew7V.jpg
http://www.idyllopuspress.com/idyllopus/film/z_3.htm

" As Mark rounds the corner to the front of the store, we see a hitchhiker. A mechanic in white overalls exits the store with a bottle or canister of some type in his hand and promptly, intentionally drops it in the street's gutter as Mark passes, then the mechanic simply walks off."

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ethereal_reality Jul 25, 2015 10:49 PM

Kodachrome slides of the Los Angeles Police Academy, circa 1966.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/Ap2tlh.jpg
eBay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...911/EXUdZ8.jpg
eBay




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/UHnpon.jpg
eBay




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...913/yU8I2t.jpg
eBay




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/ZW6Ohv.jpg
eBay

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tovangar2 Jul 25, 2015 11:48 PM

S Wilton Place between Pico and Venice.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dannywa01 (Post 7107448)
I know the school used to be an all girls catholic school owned by the "Sisters of the Good Shepherd" and that they still use two of the former buildings (the gym & the rose cottage). The only new information I came across was a possible name (Pelletier High School). During the time I worked there after school, I would hear rumors of the rose cottage being haunted by a little girl and a monk in a robe.

It was called Pelletier HS (I'll add the name to my original post). I wish I knew more about Rose Cottage being haunted.

I'm glad you liked that post. I had fun with it as I hardly ever focus on that area. Many thx for the new, first-hand info.

Tourmaline Jul 26, 2015 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 6026389)
The place where your pop got the horse meat was one block farther west, it was called Mabel's, I worked for Mabel for a week or so as a kid. I would go out when a car pulled up and take an order for horse meat. Mabel had a Spider Monkey she kept in the store, monkey bit me, quit. My pop bought horse meat there also. Just beyond was Metropolitan Chevrolet and up a couple more stores was the chicken market you mention. You watched as the chicken was killed, defeathered, gutted and wrapped up for you. Up the next block was Michaeltorena Street School. I also went to King in 56, 7 and 8.


Did the same Metropolitan eventually move to 400 S. La Brea?



Metropolitan Chevrolet, 3225 Sunset Blvd.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3Jfqo4VnZY...etroimpala.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3Jfqo4VnZY...etroimpala.jpg



Currently Sunset Auto Crafters.
http://pics3.city-data.com/businesse.../8/6444248.JPGhttp://pics3.city-data.com/businesse.../8/6444248.JPG




Go quietly into the night?




July 22, 1955 Pasadena Fwy Accident. Grim.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/84456/rec/1

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0



Still purrs like a kitten?
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0




http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0










http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0







Little Joe's , Chinatown in background
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...203&DMROTATE=0





1955 - Los Angeles (From the 1955 film, Broadway Jungle) >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ8xn21jD6w

tovangar2 Jul 26, 2015 1:14 AM

Pelletier Catholic High School for Girls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dannywa01 (Post 7107448)
I tried looking for some pictures of the school, but ended up empty handed.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5...60252%2BPM.jpg

No build date or photo date:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X...60554%2BPM.jpg

images: lapl

ethereal_reality Jul 26, 2015 6:04 PM

Mural, Venice Ca late 1960s or early 70s.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...907/QyvXmO.jpg
https://libraries.usc.edu/

detail (Brooks Ave.)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/IJ7Xe1.jpg




slide #2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/dfRGFZ.jpg
https://libraries.usc.edu/

After several searches along Brooks Avenue I found the subject of the mural (below).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/z0SGZZ.jpg
gsv

...but it took me a bit longer to spot the actual mural.

I found a match to the white house in the first slide and viola there's the mural (on the right) partially hidden by new construction.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/cj99nh.jpg
gsv

Martin Pal Jul 26, 2015 6:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7107491)

When I first saw this photo I wondered if they designed the left aide of
this mural to resemble a rolodex card with the Frank's Liquor tab and then
subsequent info, but the current photo shows the building is designed like
that, so maybe not.

Martin Pal Jul 26, 2015 6:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7107566)
Kodachrome slides of the Los Angeles Police Academy, circa 1966.

Fascinating, and to think that if they all succeeded they'd be retired now.

ethereal_reality Jul 26, 2015 6:35 PM

Here's a couple fun chaps.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/mKiEPK.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/4y1mZo.jpg

Penny Pleasure Palace (how I'd love to dig up a photograph of that place!), 253 S. Main Street Los Angeles.
I believe the address places it across the street from St. Vibiana.
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CityBoyDoug Jul 26, 2015 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7107358)
There's a Hudkins connection with an earlier post from several weeks ago.



A pre-dawn delivery of Hudkins Bros. movies horses to Iverson Ranch in Chatsworth .
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/KMDQyD.jpg
http://a-drifting-cowboy.blogspot.co...d-whizzer.html

# # # # #


If you like old cowboy and Western movies you'll like the website that ER posted in his comment....and below the photo. Its a goldmine of information and lots of photos.

Imagine getting 40 saddled horses to a movie location before dawn as we see in the photo. It takes several large trucks, lots of coordination and a whole platoon of movie livestock wranglers.

ethereal_reality Jul 26, 2015 7:07 PM

:previous: That was my thought too CBD. Imagine the logistics involved.

I imagine they had to take feed along as well. (unless it was catered ;))



May 1939.

"Main arteries leading to Pasadena, Calif., are shown choked with thousands of cars, as an estimated 1,500,000 persons make their way to Pasadena, to attend annual Tournament of Roses, the Rose Bowl Football Classic, or a meeting at Santa Anita Race Track, nearby. This air view was from a T.W.A. Skyliner, from which Chief of Police C.H. Kelley of Pasadena, by means of a short wave radio, routed the heavy traffic to reduce congestion to a minimum."


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...909/Uukmu8.jpg
eBay

I tried to line this vintage view up with a present day aerial but I couldn't figure it out..



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/7KtQL9.jpg

ethereal_reality Jul 26, 2015 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7100926)
This photo is undated, but I'd guess it was from around 1930, give or take a few years. The home we see part of to the left of The Darby, 226 W. Adams, is shown on the 1922 Sanborn Map as the "Hotel Darby Annex (Help's Quarters)":
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...u.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...ll170/id/69215

At some point between 1943 and 1950, the name changed to the Grace Apartment Hotel.
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...k.jpg~original
GSV Mar 2015

:previous: Is it just me, or does anyone else hate the present day color scheme?
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tovangar2 Jul 26, 2015 8:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7107971)

I briefly lived across the street from that mural in the late 1970s at No. 49. That house has been replaced with some pricey-looking condos.

The mural has been replaced too

Wig-Wag Jul 26, 2015 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7108029)
:previous: Is it just me, or does anyone else hate the present day color scheme?
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Super bad! Double ugly!!!!!

Cheers,
Jack

tovangar2 Jul 27, 2015 12:33 AM

Penny Pleasure Palace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7107981)
Here's a couple fun chaps.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/mKiEPK.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/4y1mZo.jpg

Penny Pleasure Palace (how I'd love to dig up a photograph of that place!), 253 S. Main Street Los Angeles.
I believe the address places it across the street from St. Vibiana.
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There were all kinds of fun places south of the Higgins Building on that block. Anyway, everything north of the two single-story buildings is a parking lot now. Amazingly the 1902 building which housed "The Arrow" theater, at No. 251) is still there, but unrecognizable (click on FFF's post for the gsv).

(Can you figure out which building housed the Penny Pleasure Palace from the map below the photo? I think it was the "Uncle John's" building)

USC DL dates this photo to 1939:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fab Fifties Fan (Post 5437166)

Looking in the opposite direction:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...0%252520PM.jpg
lapl

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o...93639%2BAM.jpg
1921 baist

ethereal_reality Jul 27, 2015 12:59 AM

:previous: Thanks for the photograph tovanger2!



:( oops. I created this post, then realized Flyingwedge posted about this art deco gem back in March of 2013. (I even complimented him on the discovery!)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=14831



Here's the apartment with over-grown foliage

2009
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/NsyKAy.jpg
gsv

and without.

2014
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/KoAxFM.jpg
gsv




Back by the alley.

2009
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/nfWifH.jpg
gsv

2014
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/qypYix.jpg
gsv

:previous: I'm curious about this tiny room facing the street.
Is it the tiniest apartment ever, or a 'store-front' type of space?

The garage (and the tiny 'mystery' space) is/are unattached to the main building. (there's a tree between them)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...911/y1hFDj.jpg
google_earth
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/NwO6tj.jpg
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tovangar2 Jul 27, 2015 1:46 AM

Crescent Heights and Blackburn
 
:previous:

Oh, I love that one. It's on Crescent Heights and Blackburn, a couple of blocks south of Third. I've spent a lot of time sitting outside of it in my googlemobile. I've never been able to figure out what the little room is.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y...64932%2BPM.jpg
gsv

The volumes, the windows, the terraces...everything, it's perfect. What fun it would be to own it and do it up as it should be to share with friends. One to dream on for sure.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2...65512%2BPM.jpg
gsv

According to Zillow, it was built in 1936 and has 5 baths and 4 beds, making it 4 one-beds and a single(?). Zillow estimates the value at almost $2mm.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R...71417%2BPM.jpg
gsv

(Maybe the little room at the end of the garages is the single?)

CityBoyDoug Jul 27, 2015 2:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7108029)
:previous: Is it just me, or does anyone else hate the present day color scheme?
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Horrible beyond belief. My teeth are hurting and I have a migraine headache when looking at that hideous and repulsive blue paint.

:yuck: :yuck: :yuck:


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