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Tourmaline Jul 20, 2015 5:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7101261)
Following up on another drive-in Martin Pal posted about a while back. There was some confusion about the address, the Colonial style building appearing in some places as 8240 Sunset and sometimes a different address. Was it ever clarified that 8240 is the correct? I think it is.

The photo in full, seen here before, originally from here
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...ncropped_1.jpg

They also have this 1970s view of the 1953 building. Looks like it was built on the same footprint as the earlier Colonial-style one.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k.../marquis73.jpg
here


The consensus seems to agree on the 8420 Sunset address for the Colonial Drive-In. Errors exist in some of the so-called source materials. E.g., here the Colonial is mistakenly listed as "6420." http://www.hpoliver.com/FEATURES/LA3...REA/index.html


Searches for common addresses often produce unexpected results. 1987 CD lists 8420 Sunset Blvd., as "Poor Man's Rent-A-Car of Sunset." http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...00002/00000002

The 8420 address was also home to "Carlos 'n Charlies."


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8325/...c8440546_z.jpghttps://farm9.staticflickr.com/8325/...c8440546_z.jpg




https://c3.staticflickr.com/7/6221/6...1d788e6e_b.jpghttps://c3.staticflickr.com/7/6221/6...1d788e6e_b.jpg





Just down the street at 8351 Sunset (northern side), there is a '56CD listing for the "Colonial Hotel." This seems to be the current location for "Carney's."


http://www.carneytrain.com/wp-conten...75fb6fd4a1.jpghttp://www.carneytrain.com/wp-conten...75fb6fd4a1.jpg




There was a Colonial Restaurant on 314 N. Camden Drive, BH
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098574.jpg http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098574.jpg

oldstuff Jul 20, 2015 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7100755)
:previous: They look great all together! Good job Martin_Pal.





1940s matchbook, Los Angeles Calif.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/IhIvRO.jpg
eBay

and lounge.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/VUIDmH.jpg
eBay

Host, Michael Madura (I tried to find out more about Mr. Madura...without success)



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/0RDpBi.jpg
inside cover

:previous: "Where the Customer is Invariably Wrong."



As I usually do, I checked out the address.

Initially, I was disappointed that there wasn't much to see.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/yOEXCL.jpg
gsv


but as I was leaving, I turned the google-mobile north on Norton Avenue and noticed an awning in the back of the building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...901/VbEMGX.jpg
gsv


I couldn't believe my eyes when I zoomed in!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/9roPp4.jpg
gsv / detail

After all these decades, a venue at 4009 W. Olympic still goes by 'Chatter Box'.

Of course I whipped the google-mobile around to take a second look at the front of the building.
If you look closely, you can make out the word 'Chatter' in this rather unattractive sign facing Olympic Boulevard (below).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/NI1wmK.jpg
detail

Has anyone heard of the 'Chatter Box' before?
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for search purposes:

The Chatterbox Café and Lounge, 4009 W. Olympic Blvd. Host Michael Madura.

Here is a short bio on Michael Madura:
Michael T. Madura was born in Nebraska on March 10, 1910. He enlisted for WWII, and at that time, May of 1942, he was living in Los Angeles and his occupation was in hotel and restaurant management. He served in the Army during the war. That record shows him as being 5'11". He shows up, married to a Bernice Madura, in a voter registration in 1952. They were living at 966 3rd Avenue, Los Angeles in both the 1952 and 1954 Voter registrations. That house is still there and the "Googlemobile" gives us a nice picture without the dreaded "vegetation". Mr. Madura died in May of 1976

oldstuff Jul 20, 2015 5:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7100719)
:previous: This is a fun find Hoss!
...and thanks for pointing out the discrepancy with the date.


Just for fun; Here's Yvonne DeCarlo (again) walking toward the Dragon's Den from Union Station.

film noir: Criss-Cross (1949)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...901/1pIWKw.jpg
Beaudry screen-grab.


View Beaudry initial post on 'Criss Cross' here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1358

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The Dragon's Den was begun by the uncles of a friend of mine. The family business was F. Suie One Company which was in the ground floor of the building at one time and the Dragon's den was in the basement. A fascinating read "On Gold Mountain" tells the story of the Chinese in California and the See family who founded F. Suie One. Lisa See is the author.

Earl Boebert Jul 20, 2015 5:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7101517)
The Dragon's Den was begun by the uncles of a friend of mine. The family business was F. Suie One Company which was in the ground floor of the building at one time and the Dragon's den was in the basement. A fascinating read "On Gold Mountain" tells the story of the Chinese in California and the See family who founded F. Suie One. Lisa See is the author.

I have been told that "Jin Shan" (Gold Mountain) is Cantonese for "California."

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2015 6:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 7101391)
I have been inactive lately since I started my post-retirement career as a cast member at Disneyland.

I didn't know you were working at Disneyland alan.

If you don't mind me asking...what part of the cast do you play?

ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2015 6:18 PM

Four amateur snapshots from an album dated 1927.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/vUbRTH.jpg
eBay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/0KmzO6.jpg
eBay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/iLxPOJ.jpg
eBay




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/AiZbVS.jpg
eBay

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tovangar2 Jul 20, 2015 6:36 PM

Michael T. Madura / Chatterbox Cafe / 966 3rd Ave
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7101508)
Here is a short bio on Michael Madura:
Michael T. Madura was born in Nebraska on March 10, 1910. He enlisted for WWII, and at that time, May of 1942, he was living in Los Angeles and his occupation was in hotel and restaurant management. He served in the Army during the war. That record shows him as being 5'11". He shows up, married to a Bernice Madura, in a voter registration in 1952. They were living at 966 3rd Avenue, Los Angeles in both the 1952 and 1954 Voter registrations. That house is still there and the "Googlemobile" gives us a nice picture without the dreaded "vegetation". Mr. Madura died in May of 1976

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w...13213%2BAM.jpg
gsv

Thank you oldstuff


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Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7101517)
The Dragon's Den was begun by the uncles of a friend of mine. The family business was F. Suie One Company which was in the ground floor of the building at one time and the Dragon's den was in the basement. A fascinating read "On Gold Mountain" tells the story of the Chinese in California and the See family who founded F. Suie One. Lisa See is the author.

I'd love to know more about your friend's uncles' business

(Lisa See is author Carolyn See's daughter)


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Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Boebert (Post 7101525)
I have been told that "Jin Shan" (Gold Mountain) is Cantonese for "California."

Cheers,

Earl


Wiki says "Jin Shan" is the pinyin. Gan Saan, the Cantonese name is often spelt "Gum Shan" in English.

Anyway, it looks like this: 金山


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Thank you alanlutz for checking in with us and for your kind words


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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7101544)
Four amateur snapshots from an album dated 1927.

There's some great individuals to look at in a couple of those shots:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O...20106%2BPM.jpg
ebay via e_r

Thx!

ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2015 6:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7101508)
Michael T. Madura was born in Nebraska on March 10, 1910. He enlisted for WWII, and at that time, May of 1942, he was living in Los Angeles and his occupation was in hotel and restaurant management. He served in the Army during the war. That record shows him as being 5'11". He shows up, married to a Bernice Madura, in a voter registration in 1952. They were living at 966 3rd Avenue, Los Angeles in both the 1952 and 1954 Voter registrations. That house is still there and the "Googlemobile" gives us a nice picture without the dreaded "vegetation". Mr. Madura died in May of 1976

oldstuff, thanks for the information on Chatterbox Café & Lounge host Michael Madura


Here's an interesting architectural style several doors south of Mr. & Mrs. Madura's house on 3rd Avenue.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...901/wzZJYe.jpg
gsv

974 3rd Avenue. (built 1922)

It's rather odd, but I like it. (I have a soft spot for anything with a cartouche ;))

HossC Jul 20, 2015 7:14 PM

After Martin Pal collected e_r's recent color image finds from eBay, I decided to remove the watermarks from a few more of them. I hope no one minds the repetition.

Photobucket kindly removed three of these images due to a claim of copyright infringement - sorry if you didn't get to see them.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...m.jpg~original

ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2015 7:31 PM

:previous: That's great HossC! I was hoping you would do that. :)


Kodachrome slide, Municipal Plunge, Los Angeles CA (1950s?)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/vHf1TV.jpg
eBay

I wasn't sure at first, but this is the Griffith Park Municipal.

And it's still there! ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/nTNIDO.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/citypr...ream/lightbox/

ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2015 7:35 PM

And here it is in 1939.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/v8v4Px.jpg
http://www.laparks.org/dos/aquatic/p...background.htm

CityBoyDoug Jul 20, 2015 8:34 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psrpmgj0cn.jpg
CBDfile

Martin Pal Jul 20, 2015 8:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7101613)
I decided to remove the watermarks from a few more of them. I hope no one minds the repetition.

I cannot imagine who would, HossC, thanks. Beautiful!

I also liked that Spalding Maids Panorama photo you posted. Lots of great faces. Nice touches, too,
like the child sitting to the side in the front. I like the last girl in line, also, who seems to be yelling
out "don't forget to look at me, too" by posing with her left foot positioned in the opposite direction
as everyone else! LOL!
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Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7100817)

I just heard about this yesterday. Ugh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7100817)
It's interesting to note that during WWII, the building was covered in camouflage netting. (Mitchell Camera Corp. was manufacturing bomb-sights at this location)
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Were they manufacturing the infamous "Norden" bomb-sights?
I don't know if there even were any other kinds.

ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2015 8:54 PM

Jerry wrote:

"For more information and photos on Corriganville, visit my web site at http://movielocationsplus.com/corrigan/enter1.htm "
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Jerry's site is a wealth of information for all things Corriganville! Be sure to check it out.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...661/cV8KT2.jpg
http://movielocationsplus.com/corrigan/enter1.htm

*I went back and attributed the 'Silvertown' photograph I posted earlier to your web-site.

tovangar2 Jul 20, 2015 9:22 PM

The Factory / Studio One / Mitchell Camera Corp
 
New buildings of similar design are popular. The public likes them because they look familiar and historic.

Surely an adaptive reuse can be found for the Factory. It looks tailor-made to be the center of a creative development. I hope West Hollywood gets its act together on this one.



New "old" buildings:

The "Marketplace" building, Century City Shopping Center:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W...21158%2BPM.jpg
seeing-stars

Anawalts Lumber, WLA:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a...20035%2BPM.jpg
gsv

ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2015 9:38 PM

Perhaps this young lad just returned from a visit to Corriganville. ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/YXXohc.jpg
eBay

Pasadena, 1960s.

Andys Jul 20, 2015 9:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7101636)

In the late 50's/early 60's, my friends and I would bicycle from Atwater (Village), across the LA river pedestrian bridge to what we called The Griffith Park Pool (?) countless times. Fond summertime memories as a kid. As I recall, they had a morning session, and an afternoon session. Fifteen cents per session, as I recall.

Andys

oldstuff Jul 20, 2015 9:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7101760)
Perhaps this young lad just returned from a visit to Corriganville. ;)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/YXXohc.jpg
eBay

Pasadena, 1960s.

The bumper sticker on the car looks like it says "Old Miner's Days" an event which is still held each year at Big Bear Lake

ethereal_reality Jul 20, 2015 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7101743)
Surely an adaptive reuse can be found for the Mitchell Camera Factory.
It looks tailor-made to be the center of a creative development. I hope West Hollywood gets its act together on this one.

:previous: I agree t2. With it's unique history, it should be saved.




This snapshot from the 1920s has all kinds of written 'clues', but I can't make heads or tails out of it.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...912/rVmONH.jpg
eBay

in white border:
"These Hollywood Quizz Kids & I. Watched girls on side walk instead of camera."
"SPL Packard Speedster"

in black border:
"Chauffeur for Rudolph Valentino" (with arrow pointing toward photograph)
"These are not his kids, movie stars and relatives kids."
"Rudolph Valentino liked me because my name was Rood(?)."
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If you look closely, there is a movie camera in front of the car. (and it looks like the car is being towed)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...661/I3h6eD.jpg

And there's a mighty fine house in the background as well.


I believe this is from the same seller that had the photographs I posted back in May showing a silent movie being filmed at the Muller Bros. Service Station. (6380 Sunset Blvd.)

Here's the earlier post:
http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=28764

# # # #



Good job CityBoyDoug on the '9 Million Views' faux-Hollywood Sign.

CityBoyDoug Jul 21, 2015 12:38 AM

Bombs Away......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7100817)
Well this is shitty news.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...912/yzZzMx.jpg
story here: http://www.latimes.com/local/westsid...719-story.html




and today:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/Nc8r94.jpg
gsv


It's interesting to note that during WWII, the building was covered in camouflage netting. (Mitchell Camera Corp. was manufacturing bomb-sights at this location)

More information by Mayor_Shaw here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=10105

From the 1970s to the 1990s this was the location of 'Studio One', arguably the most famous gay bar in Los Angeles.

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The Norden Bombsight was a CLASSIFIED complicated bombing device that actually required the Bombardier Officer to ''fly the plane'' when it was over the target.
When I was a kid my uncle talked about it with great reverence. No other nation had anything like it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps50fnkqt9.jpg
google

Andys Jul 21, 2015 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corriganville (Post 7101064)
Jerry

Jerry,

I very much enjoyed your Corriganville site. My memories are from a later time after the 1970 fire. Explored the property many times, though not much was left of the town; the barn, some out buildings, and one of the soundstages remained; the saloon I believe. The "Hopetown" signage was still up. Sometime in the mid 1970's, they sadly used the property to run a motocross race through many of the roadway film locations. I visited Corriganville (Park) recently; how sad to see the resultant fire took out what had remained of the town, and only a few foundations remain.

Andys

Tetsu Jul 21, 2015 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannywa01 (Post 7100999)
I actually looked at the wiki link that tovangar2 linked in her reply and that was the first thing I noticed! That's pretty amazing. I did some digging up of my own on the street I now reside in, and found a VERY interesting article that I'm sure you guys would LOVE to read.

http://cemeteryguide.com/gotw-parker.html

And to think I live about 300 feet away! Get to reading, its very interesting! Sad, but intriguing, and scary!

Interesting and spooky stuff for sure. As I recall, the murder of Marion Parker was pretty extensively covered here on NLA, starting with this post from page 89.

Mstimc Jul 21, 2015 1:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7101932)
The Norden Bombsight was a CLASSIFIED complicated bombing device that actually required the Bombardier Officer to ''fly the plane'' when it was over the target.
When I was a kid my uncle talked about it with great reverence. No other nation had anything like it.

I got to see one up close at the old Planes of Fame Museum in Buena Park in the 1970's. As I recall, the description said the bombsights were outfitted with a small explosive so the bombardier could destroy it if the plane was forced to land in enemy territory. I suppose being shot down took care of the problem anyway. None was captured intact by the Germans nor the Japanese.

Bristolian Jul 21, 2015 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7097834)
Thanks for your help Henry_H. I appreciate it.
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Here are a couple enigmatic photographs from 1920s Los Angeles.

description from eBay.
"Vintage SAPS (letters on sign?) Los Angeles Aeroplane Junk-Yard Photo"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/h9MFud.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SAPS...item28030d04d7

:previous: Is that Baldwin Hills in the distance?


And later in the day, I came across this second photograph.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/r9ABqz.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-LOS-...item28032eb4ba

Does anyone have any ideas where this might be?

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Hey, I'm new here but have been reading for a while and I really enjoy the site.

My first attempt at a contribution:
Could this be in the Long Beach area with Signal Hill in the background? It would make sense that there could have been an airplane junkyard at Long Beach Airport and a photo shot there looking southward would show Signal Hill in the distance.

ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2015 1:35 PM

:previous: Welcome Bristolian!

This mystery has been a difficult one to solve. What's especially intriguing to me is the long building in the second photograph.
What is that bell-shaped object over the front entrance? And is the small 'house-like room' on the roof a sort of a lookout 'tower'?

And I don't know my geography well enough to tell if the hills in the background are Baldwin or Signal.

I also was hoping someone here on NLA might recognize some of the aircraft.
I thought that might be a WWI era tank on the right in the first photograph, but now I'm not so sure.

Plus, there's that enigmatic sign in the first photograph. The seller on eBay thought it said SAPS.
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So thanks for your hypothesis Bristolian. You could be on to something.

*There was also a 'Wilmington Airport' in between Bixby Slough and Figueroa.
You can read more about it and others in the Long beach area here:
http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/..._LongBeach.htm

ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2015 2:14 PM

"If you build it they will come."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/9cONST.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/F5ZU6d.jpg

It looks like Mr. Zabendin built his trout filled 'lake' in his very own backyard. I wonder if he got the proper permits? ;)
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oldstuff, do you think you could dig up some information on Clarence Zabendin?
His home address might prove to be the location of his lake folly.


Here's a closer look at the people.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/iEYEM9.jpg
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ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2015 2:20 PM

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/WBFsGH.jpg
eBay

I believe that says 'spaghetti' over the front entrance.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/22xq1D.jpg
eBay

Michael Mosca, Proprietor



The Café Angelino would have been located in this building.

2009
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/h1ZID7.jpg
gsv



2013
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/X3vEDX.jpg
gsv



2015 Gone!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/gqM7SX.jpg
gsv
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ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2015 2:36 PM

Yet another mural controversy.

"Covering the nudes for the prudes."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/zoiedM.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/hdbzDc.jpg

Artist Frank Johnson Taylor, Beverly Hills Athletics Club, 3/28/1935.

ethereal_reality Jul 21, 2015 2:42 PM

I'm not sure where the Beverly Hills Athletic Club was located....but while looking for the address I came across this 1933 photograph on pinterest.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/SA8yKk.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/548594798331753451/

The "Nine O'clock Revue" (whatever that means)

left to right:
Doris Whitney, Carla Laemmle, Marcia Kreuger, Mary Ann Darling, Helen Clive and Virginia Kami.
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I'm out of town until Thursday. Have fun everyone!

John Maddox Roberts Jul 21, 2015 3:16 PM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;7102429]I'm not sure where the Beverly Hills Athletic Club was located....but while looking for the address I came across this 1933 photograph on pinterest.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/SA8yKk.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/548594798331753451/

The "Nine O'clock Revue" (whatever that means)

left to right:
Doris Whitney, Carla Laemmle, Marcia Kreuger, Mary Ann Darling, Helen Clive and Virginia Kami.

Carla Laemmle was the niece of Carl Laemmle, founder of Uiversal Pictures. She earned cinema immortality by speaking the first line in Lugosi's "Dracula." Carla died just over a year ago at the age of 103.

oldstuff Jul 21, 2015 3:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7102383)
"If you build it they will come."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/9cONST.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/F5ZU6d.jpg

It looks like Mr. Zabendin built his trout filled 'lake' in his very own backyard. I wonder if he got the proper permits? ;)
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oldstuff, do you think you could dig up some information on Clarence Zabendin?
His home address might prove to be the location of his lake folly.


Here's a closer look at the people.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/iEYEM9.jpg
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Sorry, I struck out. The only person who he remotely might be is a Clarence Earl Zbendin, born in 1891 in Washington State. He did apparently serve in the Navy in WWI, and spent some time in Naval Hospitals where he appears on patient registers. He lived in Nevada for a time and died in Washington, but there are no records of him in Los Angeles. He may have lived in Stockton for a while, but not in LA, at least according to the records I can find. He died in 1947.

Tourmaline Jul 21, 2015 4:06 PM

Imbued with hues, pt. 2.


We have seen colorized LA images before. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28180 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28181 Here are some more with a certain ring of familiarity. From: https://www.facebook.com/imbuedwithhues









https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8f&oe=5652F043https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8f&oe=5652F043








https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b3&oe=5613E91Dhttps://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b3&oe=5613E91D













https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...70&oe=561ACC6Chttps://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...70&oe=561ACC6C











https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a6&oe=56505C6Ahttps://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a6&oe=56505C6A










https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...06&oe=5618B89Ehttps://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...06&oe=5618B89E











https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...94&oe=564D40AEhttps://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...94&oe=564D40AE












https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...28&oe=565CA2D4https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...28&oe=565CA2D4










Exact location unknown
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ef&oe=5649EC05https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ef&oe=5649EC05







https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9b&oe=56532E88https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...9b&oe=56532E88







https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...76506697_o.jpghttps://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...76506697_o.jpg







https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bf&oe=5617D5C4https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...bf&oe=5617D5C4

CityBoyDoug Jul 21, 2015 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7102390)
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2015 Gone!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/gqM7SX.jpg
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I thought its interesting that they're recycling the bricks from the old building. We see the stacks of them in the back of the lot. I've heard that used bricks are not cheap.

tovangar2 Jul 21, 2015 5:44 PM

S Wilton Place from Pico to Venice, Mid-City
 
I could not resist looking at dannywa01's "new" neighborhood, S Wilton Place from Pico to Venice in Mid-City:

This is the place in 1910 when Pico Blvd was "Pico Street", W 15th through here was "Dorchester" and Venice was still called "16th Street". Three institutions then dominated the neighborhood:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...64146%2BPM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1910 (detail)

dannywa01's two blocks of S Wilton Place:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-0...15029%2BAM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1910 (detail)

The Los Angeles Country Club (mentioned many times on the thread, this is just a tiny recap) was started as the Los Angeles Golf Club in 1897 on land that is now centered on Alvarado Terrace. Too cramped, LACC briefly moved to 16th (Venice) and Hobart, then on to the nearby premises shown on the map below, at the NW corner of Pico and Western, where they built their first 18-hole course. In 1911 LACC decamped to West LA, to a parcel just north of 20th-Century Fox studios, where they remain. The grounds of the club's former premises were platted into house lots and built out.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M...94006%2BPM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1910 (detail)

Eleven years later (compare with the map immediately above):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R...00705%2BAM.jpg
Baist, plate No. 17, 1921 (detail)

This photo taken looking north towards Hollywood up Western from Pico in 1898 gives an idea of the lay of the land before anything was built. Just two years later, LACC will take over an irregularly-shaped parcel on the left, siting their clubhouse near the intersection. After the club departed, this area was converted to residential use and became known as Country Club Park:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...90047%2BAM.jpg
cc pierce/usc dl

The same view today:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B...73645%2BAM.jpg
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"Harvard College", later "Harvard School" and now Harvard-Westlake, (the school has also come up multiple times on the thread) was established, originally as a military school, in 1900 at the site shown on the first map above, at W 16th St (Venice Blvd) and Western. Thirty-seven years later, thwarted in their attempt to move to Westwood, they relocated to the defunct Hollywood Country Club grounds at the Valley end of Coldwater Canyon. The school's former location is now Western Plaza Shopping Center. There's a big Food 4 Less there, a CVS, a Factory 2U and some other shops.

The original Harvard College/School building, "Harvard Hall", by Arthur Burnette Benton (1900), faced on Western Avenue:
Today the site is Western Plaza Shopping Center:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J...74544%2BAM.jpg
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The Good Shepherd House is a Catholic charity which provided, and still provides, services to women and their children. As part of their mission, they ran Pelletier Catholic High School for Girls on the northern end of their property from 1905 until 1977. When the school ceased operations, the land was sold to LAUSD. Pio Pico Middle School is there now and uses two of the historic structures from the former high school. Good Shepherd retreated to the southern end of the property at the corner of Arlington and Venice behind a big hedge. The Sisters continue to maintain a shelter for victims of domestic violence:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-d...74247%2BAM.jpg
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Good Shepherd (SW corner with pool below) now shares its original site with Pio Pico Middle School:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2...01912%2BAM.jpg
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The streets surrounded by Good Shepherd, LACC and Harvard School were built with large homes of wood and stucco during the first two decades of the last century. Good brick apartments and 4-plexes provided infill in the 1920s. More modern apartments have replaced many of the homes. About twelve of the original houses remain on S Wilton Place, between Pico and Venice, most in good repair.

This one, for example, from 1910 is at No. 1422:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U...91854%2BAM.jpg
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Another at No.1527, also from 1910, features an unusual roof line:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...24719%2BPM.jpg
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One of the 1920s apartments is No. 1310 (1927):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P...10130%2BPM.jpg
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A generous four-plex (1922) at No. 1321:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...80401%2BAM.jpg
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsu (Post 7100910)
Thanks to t2 for digging up the building permit. :D

All thx go to Beaudry. He's the one who so generously gave us the info re building permit searches. I put that one up so he'd know I do pay attention....sometimes :-)

(now if the city would just cross-reference them by architect & contractor!)

oldstuff Jul 21, 2015 7:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7102589)
I thought its interesting that they're recycling the bricks from the old building. We see the stacks of them in the back of the lot. I've heard that used bricks are not cheap.

The general going rate for used brick is about 50 cents apiece, for generic ones. Something more interesting like clinker brick may be more.

When our old church building was damaged in 1971 by the Northridge earthquake, the parapet wall fell down and our youth group "cleaned" brick, knocking off the old mortar with hammers and chisels and stacking the brick (1927 vintage) to be sold. The Church made some good money which was used to repair the damage to the building.

Noircitydame Jul 22, 2015 1:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7102429)
I'm not sure where the Beverly Hills Athletic Club was located....but while looking for the address I came across this 1933 photograph on pinterest.

Did you get the address, E-R? 120 S. Roxbury Dr.

jumbo0 Jul 22, 2015 5:47 AM

I found this one between some old pictures of L.A. of my grandfather. Does anybody know where and when this could have been taken? I haven't the slightest clue!

http://s1.postimg.org/o2dy6ljbz/image_1.jpg

tovangar2 Jul 22, 2015 7:54 PM

966 3rd Ave / Michael Madura / Chatterboc Cafe
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 7101508)
Here is a short bio on Michael Madura:
Michael T. Madura was born in Nebraska on March 10, 1910. He enlisted for WWII, and at that time, May of 1942, he was living in Los Angeles and his occupation was in hotel and restaurant management. He served in the Army during the war. That record shows him as being 5'11". He shows up, married to a Bernice Madura, in a voter registration in 1952. They were living at 966 3rd Avenue, Los Angeles in both the 1952 and 1954 Voter registrations. That house is still there and the "Googlemobile" gives us a nice picture without the dreaded "vegetation". Mr. Madura died in May of 1976

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7101568)

oldstuff, e_r, remember this 1926 house? The LA Conservancy does tours of it:

LAT article here

LAT photo essay http://www.latimes.com/home/la-hm-li...togallery.html

Zillow listing

The inside is beautifully detailed and maintained.

Batchelder tile fireplace:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-l...22044%2BPM.jpg

Built-ins:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D...22632%2BPM.jpg


Pix: LAT

fhammon Jul 22, 2015 8:54 PM

Location Please
 
Can anyone identify from where this photo was taken?
It might be a shot from Fort Moore Hill overlooking the Protestant cemetery with the town in the background. Or?
There must be more photos from the set somewhere.

http://i57.tinypic.com/1yqypv.jpg

Having trouble with linking photos just now...

rbpjr Jul 22, 2015 10:43 PM

West Adams area
 
Can anyone out there find a history of the apartment building at 440 South Bonnie Brae?

CityBoyDoug Jul 22, 2015 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 7104272)
Can anyone out there find a history of the apartment building at 440 South Bonnie Brae?

Click this link>>>>>>


http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/P...eles-CA-90057/

tovangar2 Jul 22, 2015 11:26 PM

440 S Bonnie Brae
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 7104272)
Can anyone out there find a history of the apartment building at 440 South Bonnie Brae?

A bit more:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-v...41747%2BPM.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-T...41739%2BPM.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-M...41723%2BPM.jpg
online building records system

Hasn't this come up before? That building looks familiar.

Sixteen years earlier architect Rosenthal was a mere draughtsman:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y...75023%2BPM.jpg
Los Angeles Herald, 17 September 1907

tovangar2 Jul 22, 2015 11:38 PM

Old Calvary Cemetery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 7104141)
Can anyone identify from where this photo was taken?
It might be a shot from Fort Moore Hill overlooking the Protestant cemetery with the town in the background. Or?
There must be more photos from the set somewhere.

http://i57.tinypic.com/1yqypv.jpg

Having trouble with linking photos just now...

Old Calvary Cemetery looking SW I think from Radio Hill Gardens. The cemetery is now the site of Cathedral High, home of the "Phantoms"

Here:
Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 5999805)
I think the first pic is looking southwest, from approximately the location of today's Savoy Street as it approaches Bishops Road. And the second pic looks from the same general direction, but from further up Radio Hill, and turned to look more to the left (southerly).


I'm sure some kind person spliced these together for me, but I can't find it now.

LAPL has six images

Krell58 Jul 23, 2015 3:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7102429)
I'm not sure where the Beverly Hills Athletic Club was located....but while looking for the address I came across this 1933 photograph on pinterest.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/SA8yKk.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/548594798331753451/

The "Nine O'clock Revue" (whatever that means)

left to right:
Doris Whitney, Carla Laemmle, Marcia Kreuger, Mary Ann Darling, Helen Clive and Virginia Kami.
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I was hoping this would connect to our rooftop boxers from last May,
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28554 but it doesn't look like it.

fhammon Jul 23, 2015 3:31 AM

Dang, yer good tovangar2.
I'm almost speechless. Good thing I can still type.
Thanks, once again!

tovangar2 Jul 23, 2015 5:27 AM

:previous:

LOL, most of the time I'm drawing a complete blank, but I remember a lot of the images and info re Old Calvary b/c there was a discussion that went on for a few pages starting with FredH's post back on pg 610.

SW view from Radio Hill over Bishops Rd and Cathedral High (to compare with second cemetery photo):
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N...92117%2BAM.jpg
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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-a...72259%2BAM.jpg
baist 1910

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...72504%2BAM.jpg
google maps 2015

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Krell58 (Post 7104517)
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I was hoping this would connect to our rooftop boxers from last May,
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=28554 but it doesn't look like it.

Miss Bow looks like she's hoping to "connect":
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-N...90956%2BPM.jpg
still for "rough house rosie" (1927)

alanlutz Jul 23, 2015 5:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7101542)
I didn't know you were working at Disneyland alan.

If you don't mind me asking...what part of the cast do you play?

ethereal_reality,

You May recall that I was an educator for 40 years which is part of why I found this site in the first place, after doing annual 6th grade field trips to Los Angeles from Orange Co for 20 years using the Metrolink. After one of the trips I was doing some further research and googled Los Angeles Hall of Records and found images of the old building here. I got hooked on your group ever since and became even more of an expert on DTLA and appreciated my trips all the more because I now knew what it USED to look like and all the transitions it has been through. Made me a better tour guide and a more facinating hobby of riding not only the Metrolink from OC to LA but also the Green line, Blue Line, Gold Line. Expo Line and of course the original subway in LA, the Red Line.
Anyway, I retired from school in 2013 but continue leading the trips for the good of the school and the kids. Which brings me to answer your question, after a year and half of retirement here and my other love of Disneyland 4 miles away and all things Disney, I wanted to drive the trains as Fireman and Engineer but had to be working in the park somewhere first to transfer. They ended up offering me a job in Attractions in Adventureland which is also the same department as Frontierland and Main Street Transportation and Trains. I was first trained as a Skipper on The JUNGLE CRUISE and to run the Tiki Room. Last week I just finished training for Indiana Jones. I also do guest control on main street for parades and fireworks and for the Fantasmic! show. Only been 5 months now but I love it.
Sorry to the rest for off topic but wanted to reply to ER and T2 so it's this short paragraph instead of messaging.
I still Love and enjoy all the work and research ALL you guys do here. Best historical site on the Internet. Alan

tovangar2 Jul 23, 2015 3:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 7104618)
...I was first trained as a Skipper on The JUNGLE CRUISE....

LOL, that's great. Thanks for the news. Did you do the jokes? I loved that part.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k...91321%2BAM.jpg
african queen (1951)

ethereal_reality Jul 23, 2015 7:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7103175)
Did you get the address, E-R? 120 S. Roxbury Dr.

Thanks NoirCityDame.
I've been out of town, so I haven't had much time to find a photograph of the old athletic club.

ethereal_reality Jul 23, 2015 7:48 PM

It sounds as if you have a fascinating second career Alan. Good for you!


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/ZqnavY.jpg
http://matterhorn1959.blogspot.com/2...1_archive.html

A tourist taking a photograph and two Jungle Cruise employees (the boat loader, left, and the boat skipper under the awning), 1960s.

-note the name of the boat....the Nile Princess. (is there still a 'Nile Princess' today?)


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