Our fearless leader e_r originally posted this photo (along with several other shots of the Sign) way back on page 4, in this threads infancy: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show....php?p=4336855

I was really fascinated by the group of photos and as one who loves to hike in the Hollywood hills, kept wondering when and where this particular image was taken. Recently I did a couple of little photo safaris to the area and though my mission was not 100% successful, I can offer a few photos and insights concerning this spot, which is near Mulholland Highway and Ledgewood Drive.

After walking and studying the area around these streets I think the crew in ethereal's photo were not building the road to the sign, or any road in that scene. The sign is finished, and the road leading to it would have been the first construction phase of the project, so it has probably been in place for at least a year or two. My hunch is that our crew was actually working on Mulholland Highway (behind the camera) or perhaps was doing maintenance on the road to the sign.

So, what is this road? After stomping around the area, my conclusion is that it no longer exists, and was just an access road, built before the sign went up. My best guess is that this spot is now occupied by the homes at 6105 and 6107 Mulholland Highway. Here's a photo taken from a hill behind those homes. I think the relatively clear section that winds around to the right was a part of the old access road.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/HlwdSign/100_8962.JPG
My photo

I think the road may have intersected with Mulholland Highway at bit further west at the driveway that now leads to 6145. It looks suitably old, and would have been the least steep approach to the little ridge in my first photo, with one or two little switchbacks in between.


http://wwww.dkse.net/david/HlwdSign/100_8968.JPG
My photo

(In the early 30's broadcaster Don Lee bought the land on the plateau above the sign in conjunction with his new experimental TV station and the longer, more gradual Mt. Lee Road was built to the summit. With the new road in place, the steeper old road would no longer be needed for access to the sign.)

Now, here's another old photo that caught my attention, though I don't know whether it has been posted on this thread before. This is the short divided section of Mulholland Highway, a few blocks west of Ledgewood. I have driven this section many times over the years and always found it intriguing and very charming. I believe that's our Hollywoodland Sign access road near the top left corner of the frame. That same hillside on the left, now the site of the homes at 6145 through 6105, also has a large green water tank, that I think can be seen at the upper left:

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/HlwdSign/...hwy-1925.2.jpg
http://underthehollywoodsign.wordpre...lland-highway/

Here's shot I took, from a similar vantage point:

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/HlwdSign/100_8972.JPG
My photo

The large white home in the older photo is at 6182 Mulholland Highway and was a model home / sales office for the then new Hollywoodland Estates. This handsome structure can seen on many old photos of the Hollywood hills. It's still there but today is more hidden by trees and other homes on the block. It is not the white home in the background of the photo above, but here's a view of it from down on Durand Drive. The identifying feature is the tall rectangular chimney along the west wall.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/HlwdSign/100_8974.JPG
My photo

This is a great old section of Hollywood and I never tire of seeing it. The neighborhood has loads of character and many fine older homes, with few of the hideous "wedding cake palaces" that are common in other hilltop sections of L.A. Lake Hollywood is nearby and just down the street at 6342 M.H. is Castillo del Lago apparently built by Bugsy Siegel, and later owned by Madonna.

More later, maybe...

Wow.

This is my FIRST post to this fabulous group of similar thinkers.

I absolutely miss Los Angeles after having left in 1978. And I miss all the good memories that really were merely daily life but seem so great compared to today.

I've searched high and low on the internet for old photos just to ponder for a moment how things once were in this world. But your photos are gold.

And, now I have other people to talk to about them! Nobody in my life today cares about what once was in my years past. You people all think like I do !

Somewhere in here, I'll bet there are even photos of the Westlake School For Girls where my mother worked. Can't wait to see a few of those since I've none of my own and only found a couple online.

Durand Drive...
 

You mentioned Durand Drive as being close to the original Hollywoodland home on Mulholland Highway...my father's uncle, Tom Powers, who was a stage actor in New York and eventually appeared in many movies...lived at 3154 Durand Drive from 1948 to 1954...I visited the home a few times and remember him driving us up and down those winding roads in his yellow Packard convertible, with a rumble seat...where my brother and I were seated. I am hoping that someone, at this site, would be able to photograph the home as it appears today. Seems there weren't too many homes on that meandering road in those days...

rbpjr, I'll be glad to photograph that house next time I'm in the area, but you can probably find a nice image of it on Google street view, too.

rbpjr-

Here is a google street view of the garage where your Great Uncle parked his yellow Packard convertible.


http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9...uranddrive.jpg
google street view


The home is rather hard to see. (perhaps you already know this, but I wasn't sure if you had already used google street views)

I'm curious...was the home quite a distance from the garage? Did it have a fireplace?

After looking at entrances along Durand Drive again, I believe your Great Uncle's house is the one on the right with the long pathway.


http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/464...rantaerial.jpg
google street view



If this is correct, it's virtually impossible to see unless you go to Rodgerton Drive and look up.


http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1305/3154durand1.jpg
google street view



Here is a closer view.
You can see the fireplace chimney at right. I wasn't sure what to call the tall-peaked area... it's almost a turret but not quite.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6...vefrombelo.jpg
google street view


Do you think this the house rbpjr?
If not, I'm sorry....but it certainly was fun for me to go looking for it. :)
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That said, I'm sure 3940dxer could get a much better photo for you rbpjr. He has posted some excellent photos in this thread.

Welcome to the thread MovingAloha & IAlsoRememberLA! It's so great that you found the thread.

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I loved your enthusiastic posts on Miss Velma and her other half Gaylord_Wilshire.
It's really hard to believe that these two oddballs flew under our radar all this time.
It makes me wonder was else is out there under the palms waiting to be rediscovered.

I hope everyone had a great holiday with family and friends (or alone if need be).

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The home is rather hard to see. (perhaps you already know this, but I wasn't sure if you had already used google street views)

I'm curious...was the home quite a distance from the garage? Did it have a fireplace?

I remember we parked on the street...there was a gate by the garage and a long path which took us to the lower part of the house...we went in a door on the west-side...not the "front-door"...my great uncle had painted ivy or some kind of vines on the stucco around the door...I can't remember a fireplace as we spent most of our time in his studio (he painted and was a writer)...I remember the views west were sensational! Oh, speaking of "Noir"...he played Barbara Stanwyk's husband in "Double Indemnity"...(the stage was his first love, but he said he acted in films "to help pay the bills")...

I FINALLY found that postcard I mentioned in the above post.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5...whatisthis.jpg
ebay, several years ago

The lack of taste is astounding.
It seems odd that there isn't an address on the postcard. I wonder if they owned any land outright for this monstrosity for 10,000 people?
Perhaps the parcel of land on Lake Street was large enough....but I doubt it.

I just noticed the flag on the right isn't the Star and Stripes.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w...2520PM.bmp.jpghttp://lapl.org

Welcome, Ialso.... The ad above dates from 1915, when Westlake was on Alvarado across from the park for which it and the area was named (now, of course, it's MacArthur Park). Two years later the school moved to 333 S. Westmoreland Ave.; the house still at that address may have been part of that campus. About ten years after that, the school moved to 700 N. Faring Rd. in Holmby Hills, which is now the campus for grades 7-9 of Harvard-Westlake. The buildings there were designed by Arthur Kelly:

http://www.paulrwilliamsproject.org/...s/366562pv.jpgPaul Williams Project

Hello E.R. .... bear with me on my browsing and posts. I'm trying to navigate and sometimes not finding my way back to the page where I came from. Great photos
posted by yourself a couple of days ago of an odd named store. I never heard of it,
either. (The one with a Paul Revere horseback rider doing his thing out front in 1938).

BEAUTIFUL shot of the admin (?) building at Westlake School For Girls.

I can't tell if thats the new version of the school or the old. Haven't seen it in person since about 1967.

The original owners apparently lost control of the school through legal manuvering and committed suicide in their later years, I think. The "head mistriss" name was Helen. My mother admired that woman.

They used to have a talking bird in the admin lobby that was so used to hearing the receptionist answer the phone that whenever the phone would ring, the bird would speak, "Westlake School For Girls." YAK !

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Wow, all these great posts!

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Last week, after 3 years of reconstruction, the 1st Street Bridge over the Los Angeles River, connecting Boyle Heights to downtown, was reopened--all lanes of it, that is. The Metro Gold Line extension from Union Station into East LA was opened in 2009, with the rails going over the 1st Street Bridge. However, the Gold Line tracks took over the north half of the bridge, while the south 2 lanes were only for eastbound automobile traffic. The bridge was to be widened to accommodate 2 lanes for westbound automobile traffic, extending the bridge 26 feet north, all while Gold Line trains, eastbound automobile traffic, and trains running beneath the bridge along both sides of the LA river, were to continue running. The reopening was pushed back about a year and a half because of problems with construction and delays. The north railing of the bridge was demolished, and the original decorative arches were saved and moved while the roadway was widened. The north railing was then recreated, with the decorative arches anchored back in place. Even the original street lamps were recreated. The whole bridge has been strengthened to withstand a 7.0 earthquake (I think they should've shot for at least an 8.0 quake). Here's a pictorial history of the bridge.

The original 1st Street Bridge was actually a wooden trestle structure that dated from 1889. This photo dates from 1893. Notice the streetcar, which I assume is actually a cable car, being that I see no overhead trolley wires.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8...geshack1st.jpg
Consin's image from imageshack

Here's the bridge in 1924. Notice the wooden sidewalks.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/199...therncalif.png
Auto Club of Southern California

Undated image
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1...ststreetbr.jpg
LAPL

Undated image
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1...ststreetbr.jpg
LAPL

By the mid or late 1920s, the bridge was considered antiquated and inadequate, so a new concrete bridge was constructed in a more monumental, "City Beautiful" style (along with other bridges over the LA River). The bridge opened to traffic in 1929. Here it is from a photo dated December 15, 1928, with construction nearing completion.
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3...8nearlycom.jpg
USC Archive

Here it is after it was completed.
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/5...bridgelapl.jpg
LAPL

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1...bridgeunda.jpg
LAPL

Look at the soot from the locomotives running benath:
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/5083/lapl2.jpg
LAPL

Some time in the late 1950s (I think), the original streetlamps were removed, replaced with these. The photo dates from about 1963.
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6...rchiveca19.jpg
Metro Library Archive

Circa 1963
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/326...rchivecirc.jpg
Metro Library Archive

Here's the bridge in 1986. This is how I remember it looking, before construction for the Gold Line light rail started.
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/300...bridge1986.jpg
LAPL

I don't know why I was never in the frame of mind to take pictures of the bridge's reconstruction the last 3 years. But today, December 26th, 2011, I took some photos of the now completed, widened and restored, 1st Street Bridge. I like the bridge now. I sorta kinda wish that the lamp posts were used to hold up the catenary wires for the light rail trains, but I guess you can't have everything.
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8217/p1200435.jpg
Photo by me

They even recreated the light fixtures in the decorative arches.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9797/p1200420.jpg
Photo by me

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/2483/p1200422.jpg
Photo by me

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4637/p1200469.jpg
Photo by me

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9154/p1200444.jpg
Photo by me

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/7629/p1200421.jpg
Photo by me

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2830/p1200455.jpg
Photo by me

A few Then and Nows.

1963, looking west towards downtown.
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/543/1963v.jpg
nycsubway.org

December 26, 2011, looking west towards downtown.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3152/p1200428.jpg
Photo by me

Looking east towards Boyle Heights, 1954. The original street lamps were still in place.
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8...streetbrid.jpg
USC Archive

Looking east towards Boyle Heights, December 26, 2011. I'd have waited for a train, but I wanted to keep walking. Plus my partner got impatient while waiting for the train to pass by in the other photo.
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8293/p1200433.jpg
Photo by me

Night shot, taken December 21, 2011. Photo by me. I thought it had a noirish quality. :)
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...94332274_n.jpg

:previous: Excellent essay on the 1st Street Bridge sopas_ej! Fantastic that you went out and took photos of the bridge today.
The original wooden tresle seems so distant that it might as well be from another planet.

:previous:
Thanks! I took photos of a few other bridges, too, to compare with older photos. Maybe I'll post them another time.

That would be great sopas. :)

Central and 49th
 

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;5513042]An accident at Central Avenue and 49th Street in 1952.


http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6...49thst1952.jpg
LAPL




below: I am pretty sure these are the same buildings at Central Ave. & 49th St.


http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/282...lave49thst.jpg
goggle street view

This is great. Not only has the building survived, but the narrowly-missed telephone pole as well. If you look at the knot holes in the 1952 pic you'll see they match up perfectly with the current view. I'm not a pole fanatic, but think of all the changes on that block in the last 60 years, while that lonely piece of wood stood watch.

A few recent eBay finds:

Santa Monica Blvd. & Western Avenue, 1890
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...520Western.jpg
[source: eBay]


Looking down at Hollywood & Vine, 1945 Feb. 9
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-t...252520Blvd.jpg
[source: eBay]


Hollywood & Vine again, 1981
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w.../s800/1981.JPG
[source: eBay]


Noirish view of the Earl Carroll Theater, 1942
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-A...520Theater.JPG
[source: eBay]


Muller Bros. Service Station in Hollywood, 1941 Nov. 28.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...520station.JPG
[source: eBay]


Passers-by luxuriating in the idyllic splendor of the Hollywood Freeway just west of the four level interchange, 1963
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y...520Freeway.JPG
[source: eBay]


Aerial view of Hollywood, 1963
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...0Hollywood.jpg
[source: eBay]

New Federal Bldg
 

I came across this LA Times story about the vacant lot where a proposed new Federal Courthouse may be built. It appears this has been discussed for several years, now one of the State legislators is trying to permanently kill it my selling the land.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov...house-20111104

I thought, though, what a great opportunity if the Fed did build to attempt to mimic some of the older archtecture.

I'm still working my way through this whole Thread, so you all may have already discussed this situation.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics41/00055385.jpgLAPL

This Victorian extravaganza stood at 414 East 27th Street (southeast corner of Maple) and was the home of prolific L.A. architect Frederick Rice Dorn. It was a huge house for the neighborhood. The block is still one of modest Victorian cottages in a district largely made up the same (one of the most fascinating and unknown parts of L.A., I think), and though they appear to be of the same vintage, they'd have been dwarfed by the house in the picture. Dorn was still listed there in the 1909 CD, though he'd moved to the house still at 1126 Fourth Ave by 1915 and was living there when he died in 1934. Btw, non-residential projects by Dorn include the still-extant Hotel Bristol (nee Woodward) and B.H. Dyas/Broadway-Hollywood, both of which we've seen here recently.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...6%252520PM.jpgEbay

I love the colors in this glass slide currently on Ebay, identified as Figueroa Street ca. 1900.

[QUOTE=sopas ej;4316703]Crime

I find old Los Angeles crimes fascinating. Somehow glamorous, even. ;)
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Responding to a photo series of crime scenes on page 3.

I know its not considered mainstream conversation, but I also find historical
crime scenes very intriguing. I like to look for the specific location such as an address and then go to google street level maps to view the area as it is today.
Sometimes I think I can see the crime scene from a more accurate angle due to modern aerial photos than the police of yesteryear.

Shotguns vs. handguns/rifles ?
 

In the photo above with caption of "stray bullet holes," I have to wonder a couple of things. First, how did the assailants NOT kill their targets while
using shotguns from that range? And, if they were only using shotguns, whats with the large bore holes on the right rear fender of that car. Clearly,
the damage was caused by someone on the assailants side of the street. What a lousy shot !

Praise !
 

I totally agree.

I love all these old photos of L.A. I've never seen them before.

The father of a good friend of mine growing up worked at UCLA. I wish he could see the previously posted UCLA photos.

Happy 110th Olivet and Sinai!!!
 

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3...flight2011.jpg

For all of you in or around L.A. this weekend, its celebration time...

From LAist:

It's time to break open the piggy bank or shake out your pants pockets and take your pennies to Downtown L.A. Saturday for 1¢ rides on Angels Flight in honor of the funicular's 110th anniversary.

The fare will be lowered December 31 only to its 1901 opening day fare.

In addition to the penny rides, the two iconic orange rail cars, Olivet and Sinai, have been Tweeting about special 110th anniversary treats and fun in store for Saturday's celebration. $1.00 commemorative tickets are on sale now at the Angels Flight station house; follow @AngelsFlight on Twitter for more info.

The other half and I will be in LA this weekend anyway so we will definitely be joining in on the celebration.

~Jon Paul

Roybal was built to solve all the space needs "for the forseeable future".

Their crystal ball must be murky and not so hot at foresight, as Roybal was built way back in.....

........1991.

Tell the judges to pound sand. Sell it to someone who might actually build something on it after 40 years. Or better yet.....leave it in stasis....as a permanent memorial to the spectacular gross incompetence that is now The City of Los Angeles.

This is such an amazing edifice G_W! I hope we find more information about it....and I agree, it seems much too large to be a residence
on East 27th Street.
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Since G_W mentioned 27th Street I thought I'd post some before/after photos of some of the impressive homes along WEST 27th Street near USC.

The William V. Cockins residence, northwest corner of w. 27th & Hoover in 1980.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/5...sr2in1980l.jpg
LAPL


below: The William Cockins residence today.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/552...sresidence.jpg
google street view

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Directly across 27th Street from the Cockins residence is the Alfred Salisbury residence.
The address is 2703 S. Hoover Street (at 27th Street).

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2...isburyr1la.jpg
LAPL




The Alfred Salisbury residence today.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2...isburyresi.jpg
google street view

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The J.H. Kiefer residence at 1150 West 27th Street.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/887...ence1150we.jpg
LAPL



I was unable to find the Kiefer residence at 1150, but I found this house at 1204 W. 27th Street which I believe is the Kiefer residence.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9...ence2at120.jpg
google street view






http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/6...a1204w27th.jpg
google street view




http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1450/jhkiefer1.jpg
google street view

Is this the Kiefer residence?

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I zero'd in on the plaque at 1204 West 27th Street (Kiefer residence). It seems to say 'Ellis 1204 Island'.


http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/684...aquedetail.jpg
google street view



After many searches I found this obscure reference.

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1...llisisland.jpg
http://lists.topica.com/lists/wednit...&mid=913196358

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I don't know... I've read every history of Los Angeles I've ever been able to get my hands on, political and otherwise, and don't see that there were really any fewer such civic cockups... nostalgia has a tendency to edit out the unpleasant parts....

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061665.jpgLAPL

One house on West 27th St that has always intrigued me is that of Frances de Pauw still at 1146. I'd love to find a shot of it before a 1952 fire destroyed what was apparently a large gable on the facade. The pic above is dated 1980. (Btw, the LAPL refers to this address as being in the Westlake neighborhood...don't we have some of its photo curators on board here?) It seems that Ms. de Pauw was a philanthropist with a particular interest in educating Latinas (see Google Books).

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u...2520AM.bmp.jpgUSCDL
Circa 1910; attributed to John Austin. The second de Pauw school, seen below, replaced it.
(Unless that's the old building off to the right... the addresses differ in CDs, the first at 4970
Sunset, the second at 4952.)

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics43/00071325.jpglapl.org

I DO agree that LA's history is littered with bottom-feeders and scoundrels and quarrels by the bushel. There's no denying that, GW. You are absolutely correct.

But look at it this way - I think you would also agree that an early-20th Century Los Angeles would never have allowed a large parcel adjacent to City Hall to slumber for four decades in a way that a late-20th Century Los Angeles has.

Or consider this - I'll bet that in the same time it took the Gold Line to go from draft proposal to actual in-service running (over already-existing R.O.W. I might add), the PE and LARY laid hundreds of miles of track and put dozens of routes in operation from one end of the Basin to the other.

It's a problem not restricted to L.A., of course. But they sure seem to have perfected it.

Miss Velma's follies & that AMAZING yellow dress.
 

:worship::worship:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-D...2520PM.bmp.jpgAmazon

Well, 1900 = apples; 2011 = oranges. A fraction of the land area; a fraction of the population, and one that was homogenous vs. polyglot; year-by-year accumulation of political interests and purposes; myriad and differing civic goals; and Harrison Gray Otis. The book pictured above is sort of interesting, though I'd recommend getting it from the library or buying a used copy--the introduction especially is almost comically, obtusely academic. The book itself does remind you of how much was accomplished 100 years ago, but it also helps you understand that, as history has shown, getting the trains to run on time can sometimes involve tyranny. Anyway--Viva Los Angeles, then and now!

[IMG]http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics49/00059081.jpgLAPL https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

A relic remaining on the northwest corner of Figueroa & 42nd Street.

:previous: That's a great before/after photo G_W.

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Earlier this year I came across this sad story of eminent domain from the LAPL archives.
While searching for further details I came across a wonderful blog by Steve Vaught named 'Paradise Leased'.
Two clippings and several photos in this post were found on the 'Paradise Leased' blog. All the rest are from the Los Angeles Public Library.

Click on the link to read an excellent in-depth story about Steven Anthony by Steve Vaught.
http://paradiseleased.wordpress.com/...nthony-part-i/


http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/6...5d2article.jpg
los angeles times via paradiseleased





Illustration of the proposed Hollywood Museum of Film and Television.

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3...forhollywo.jpg
William A. Pereria & Associates



Sadly, the site chosen for this mega-museum was Alta Loma Terrace....a distinctly beautiful enclave of residences in the Hollywood Hills overlooking the entrance to Cahuenga Pass. Fifteen home owners agreed to a buyout except for one, Steven Anthony of 6655 Alta Loma Terrace.



Mr. Anthony's cottage was especially enchanting. It was built in 1923 for cinematographer Gordon Pollock, best known for his work with Erich Von Stroheim and Charlie Chaplin. Many of the home's most endearing details were originally set pieces from Rex Ingram's 1922 production of 'The Prisoner of Zenda'. (these details were found at http://paradiseleased.wordpress.com/...nthony-part-i/)


In the 1930s Bette Davis rented 6655 Alta Vista Terrace from the Pollocks.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2...erracefrom.jpg
from ms. davis 1962 autobiography via http://paradiseleased.wordpress.com/...nthony-part-i/


below: Ms. Davis posing in the living room at 6655 Alta Loma Terrace.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/883...erracedavi.jpg
from ms. davis 1962 autobiography via http://paradiseleased.wordpress.com/...nthony-part-i/



http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/7...diseleased.jpg




Mr. Arnold decides to stand his ground against eminent domain (along with his wife and three children).

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9...unwillfigh.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/



Mr. Arnold peering out an upstairs window. I'm guessing that gorgeous window pane is indicative of the rest of the house. Can you imagine what the interior must have looked like?

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8...erracewith.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=77561



Sheriff's deputies and newsmen mill about following attempts to evict Mr. Anthony.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1193/6655altapolice.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=77558




Mr. Arnold is arrested on a six year old traffic warrant. In the middle of the night Sheriffs deputies supervise movers as they carry Steven Anthony's possessions from the condemned Hollywood home.


http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6...iction1964.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=77554






Released on bail, Mr. Anthony and his wife return to 6655 Alta Loma Terrace but are not allowed to go up to their home on the hill.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/1989/6655alta1.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/FullRecord?
databaseID=968&record=6&controlNumber=77551

description of the above photo from LAPL:
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/599...cantreturn.jpg






A wrecking crane begins demolishing the cottage.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9...erracedest.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=77547



6655 Alta Loma Terrace is gone. :(

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4007/...erracedes2.jpg
LAPL




Children play where the cottage once stood. Notice the small sign on the tree above the middle girl.

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This is that sign.

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Signs and flowers are left at the bottom of the hill next to the sign advertising the new $6.5 million Hollywood Film and Television Museum.

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http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=77541




And the museum?...........NEVER BUILT.

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Steve Vaught does a fantastic job with Paradise Leased.

and back to West 27th Street for a minute...
 

A good friend just alerted me to a couple of good shots of the de Pauw house... one showing the fire of January 6, 1952, and the remains of the lost gable.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n...2520PM.bmp.jpgUSCDL

And the house today, looking good except for that odd mansardish roof...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...os_Angeles.jpgWikipedia

Turns out that 1146 W 27th was also at one time the home of William Dennison Stephens, mayor of Los Angeles for 11 days in March 1909, a U.S. congressman, and governor of California 1917-1923. (Well, in 1915 he was listed at "1108" W 27th, but since so many sources say it was this house... maybe there was a renumbering... and, Frances de Pauw was listed at "1110" in 1899.. history is slippery, isn't it?)

Thank you, Don!

:previous: Such a beautiful house. Hopefully the original blueprints survive and the top portion of the house will eventually be restored.
Are there any photos with the turret intact G_W?

Irving Gill's Dodge House
 

Torn down for an apartment complex. What else! :hell:

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Los Angeles Times

Nice story and more pictures here:

http://www.latimes.com/features/home...,2938783.story

:previous: It's hard to believe it was designed in 1914 and completed in 1916.

Here is a photo of the interior.

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http://consommacteurs.blogs.com/phot.../012044pv.html

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...and to drive the point home. :(



http://www.latimes.com/features/home...0,840790.photo
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Soulless investors blinded by dollar signs.
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Pacific Electric Co.
 

Trips from the 1941 Los Angeles Guide and Apartment House Directory:

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Handsome Stranger:

Your image of the Earl Carroll Theater...

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...reminded me of this screen grab from the introduction to Farewell My Lovely (1975)

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Farewell My Lovely (1975)

This is such a great find Handsome_Stranger. I love the swath of sunlight piercing the intersection.
In the lower right corner is the Melody Lane Cafe.




Here is another view of Melody Lane about five years later. The sign above the entrance says 'free parking'.....I wonder where that would be?

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Also found on ebay-April 2010

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Film Noirs for Christmas
 

Yes, I got some! :banana: So here we go with a few screen grabs.

Out of the Past (1947)

You can't go wrong with Robert Mitchum, Jane Greer, Kirk Douglas and Rhonda Fleming.

Driving down Main Street, going past Our Lady Queen of Angels Church:

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Out of the Past (1947)

Today we have:

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Google Street View

Around the corner from the church:

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Out OF The Past (1947)

Gone now.


Gun Crazy (1950)

Much better than I thought, with Peggy Cummins and John Dall.

Here we are driving to the Amour plant in Albuquerque?

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Gun Crazy (1950)

Wait a minute, I think I see gas holders!

The "Albuquerque" plant:

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Gun Crazy (1950)

Actually, the plant was located at 2300 E. Olympic Blvd, in Los Angeles. Today, it looks like this:

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Google Street View

More gas holders:

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Gun Crazy (1950)


This Gun for Hire (1942)

The building in the background...

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This Gun For Hire (1942)

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This Gun for Hire (1942)

...is still there at Broadway and Savoy:

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Google Street View

This image reminded me of Billie Burke... who once lived at 607 N. Elm Drive in Beverly Hills (Robert Young succeeded her there):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...ieburke607.jpgSeeing Stars
(Today, Google Street View reveals that the house needs some TLC--some shutters are in
shards. Billie would never have allowed it.)

Receiving her first social security check, 1958:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520PM.bmp.jpgUSCDL

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r...2520AM.bmp.jpgEbay

Looking (to me, at least) as though it might be out in the country instead of in the middle of Los Angeles--then (1920) and even now--is lawyer Leonard B. Slosson's unusual house at 426 S Arden.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogle Street View

I'll give you half a bag of apples and half a bag of oranges, GW......

True, it was a lot easier to lay PE track across a mostly empty San Gabriel Valley in 1910 than it is to construct a Gold Line in an urbanized area. In retrospect, I agree that analogy doesn't hold much water.

But I still maintain that empty State Building site is an unintentional monument to LA's general shnide.

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So, malumot... I take it that by using that term you might be open to the possibility that at some point L.A. may go off the schine.... I moved to NYC in the '70s, and no one would have ever thought that the city, at the very bottom of a losing streak (but still an incredibly exciting and enriching place to live), would turn into the pulled-together place it is today. Arguably, it's a duller town, but there's no going back to any romanticized era--not '70s NYC, not "golden age" L.A.....

Maybe, given that L.A. seems hell-bent on imitating Manhattan, building tall and out to the sidewalks and subwaying underneath, it will rebound the way we did. And as far as I can see, downtown L.A., at least, from the Broad to the many loft conversions, is off to a pretty good start...

In response to my post about Barney's Beanery and their infamous anti-gay policy, GaylordWilshire wrote

GW, your words really stuck with me and you are so right...looking at all these wonderful old photos, it's easy to romanticize this very stylish chapter in L.A.'s history and forget that the "good old days" were in many respects not very good.

While looking into the history of Mulholland Drive and Mulholland Highway yesterday, I came across another sad reminder of our past...not noirish, just dark...as seen near the center of this old map, and the inset on the left. I won't repeat the name in this text, because I don't want search engines to associate it with this thread. But some cartographer, landowner, committee, person, or entity once thought it was a perfectly reasonable name and I guess the L.A. Times and most Americans would have agreed.

http://wwww.dkse.net/david/Mulholland/N.Hill.map.jpg
L.A. Times June 5, 1927

After scouring my old Santa Monica mountains hiking map, I believe that this area is now Rocky Oaks Park, in Agoura.

This was not the only place with that name. Searches for more information turned up absolutely nothing in Southern California but I did find a cemetery in northern California (recently renamed, amid much consternation to those involved) and places with the same name in Boston, Wisconsin, Iowa, Colorado, Australia and New Zealand.

I guess we should not blindly wax nostalgic about those times. Yes, the architecture was splendid and a bowl of chili may have cost only a nickel. But I doubt that many of us, knowing what we now know do and enjoying more freedom than could have been imagined back then, would be deeply satisfied if transported back to that time.


P.S. e_r, I loved your post about the Hollywood Museum that never was.