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BDiH Jul 3, 2020 3:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OJC1927 (Post 8969870)
OMG! I know exactly where this is! This is the intersection of 9th Street and Wilton, on the westernmost edge of Koreatown. The shot is looking across Wilton. The building sits on the SE corner of the intersection. The building is still there but is surrounded by stone framed wrought iron black fence. You can still see the the first floor windows when passing by but not the yard. It was recently undergoing renovations (Thank God!), until Covid hit and slowed down it's progress. The little house next door to the right is gone and was replaced with one of those 60's styled 2 story apartment buildings that runs depth wise on the property. I live one block east of this corner.

You overlooked the main event.

ethereal_reality Jul 3, 2020 4:14 AM

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Close, But No Cigar Periscope.


Christine Larson Love Nest, 1624 N. Beverly Glen [now demolished]

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Good sleuthing GW. I appreciate your help, buddy.

It makes me sad to see these simple houses (love nests?) destroyed. I can just imagine what the new owners of the land plan to build there.
No doubt something four or five times larger. ...*shakes head in dismay*


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/VjgMeY.jpg
eBay


I'm surprised that Ms. Larson was given 4th billing on the movie poster for, The Well [1951]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FWvR5P.jpg
imdb

On imdb she is listed sixteenth in official credit order. (I believe she played a waitress)....Someone pulled some serious strings to get her name on the poster.




Welcome to the thread, OJC1927. :hi:
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CaliNative Jul 3, 2020 5:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8970001)
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Close, But No Cigar Periscope.


Christine Larson Love Nest, 1624 N. Beverly Glen [now demolished]



Good sleuthing GW. I appreciate your help, buddy.

It makes me sad to see these simple houses (love nests?) destroyed. I can just imagine what the new owners of the land plan to build there.
No doubt something four or five times larger. ...*shakes head in dismay*


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/VjgMeY.jpg
eBay


I'm surprised that Ms. Larson was given 4th billing on the movie poster for, The Well [1951]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FWvR5P.jpg
imdb

On imdb she is listed sixteenth in official credit order. (I believe she played a waitress)....Someone pulled some serious strings to get her name on the poster.




Welcome to the thread, OJC1927.
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^^^
"The Well" was loosely based on the late 1940s Kathy Fiscus tragedy. Fiscus was a little girl who fell into an abandoned well in Sierra Madre (or was it San Marino?) and died. It was one of the first stories covered at the scene remotely by TV news. It made KTLA and a few other stations and TV set sales surged. LA oldtimers still talk about the Fiscus tragedy today. In the 1980s there was a baby in a well case in Texas that garnered lots of coverage, but fortunately she was saved.

Lorendoc Jul 3, 2020 5:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OJC1927 (Post 8969910)
As strange and bizarre as this may sound, I'm 95% sure that the woman in line at the bank holding the baby in this photo is my grandmother and the baby is my mother. I sent a private message to Lorendoc with the details. I hope they see it and get back to me. =)

Hello OJC1927, I have sent you a private message in response.

sadykadie2 Jul 3, 2020 5:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8966900)
Hey thanks CaliNative..........
Rabbit tastes kinda bland.....people use all kinds of spices to flavor it.

Venison has a pungent wild taste, its dark red in color....no fat. Horse meat is kinda sweet, also no fat. Horse is often called Cheval. Horse meat for humans is not legal in all states. Bison is like beef...very nice muscle meat....lean. Goat I think is quite tasty. Its great in Mexican food.

Always interesting to discuss unusual food.

My uncle had us over for a "pulled pork" sandwich as a kid. the meat was bear and venison he'd hunted himself. It was good, but the bear was a tad tough

CaliNative Jul 3, 2020 5:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8966900)
Hey thanks CaliNative..........
Rabbit tastes kinda bland.....people use all kinds of spices to flavor it.

Venison has a pungent wild taste, its dark red in color....no fat. Horse meat is kinda sweet, also no fat. Horse is often called Cheval. Horse meat for humans is not legal in all states. Bison is like beef...very nice muscle meat....lean. Goat I think is quite tasty. Its great in Mexican food.

Always interesting to discuss unusual food.

The Latinos rave about goat meat, cabrito. I do want to try it. Deer sounds kind of gamy, maybe a freshness issue when hunters carry it home unrefrigerated? Horse meat...is the sweetness an issue? My mind would think of dog food. Bison sounds good and healthier than beef. I'll try it. I doubt I'll ever eat insects unless food supplies dry up. Of course they say most processed food has some insects in it. Rabbit I may try. In rainy years we have wild rabbits grazing on our lawn but I'll stick to store bought. Beef tripe I will never eat, or anything made from intestines. I would starve first. I used to eat beef liver but rarely do anymore. My mom sometimes served it and it wasn't terrible with catsup and broiled onions on it but I haven't had it since maybe 1975. Liver used to be common to find in stores but not as much today. One of those foods that fell out of popularity. When I was a kid I remember most stores had calf brains in the meat dept., but you rarely see calf brains in the meat aisles anymore. Probably grossed out people. Never ate calf brains and I never will. Stores used to sell calf kidneys when I was a tadpole in the 1960s, but kidneys are rare. Archaic foods.

ethereal_reality Jul 3, 2020 6:01 AM

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RE: The Stacked Gondolas..... Here


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Originally Posted by corriganville (Post 8968557)
The gondola boats are sitting on the MGM backlot #3. Just to the south of that backlot is a hill with the Inglewood Oil Field which still has oil wells on it.
West Los Angeles College is directly south of where the backlot used to be. This backlot #3 had a Tarzan jungle and at least 2 separate western streets, among many other sets.

:previous: I appreciate your help, corriganville.

And thanks for your tremendous follow-up post Martin Pal.




Here's a large layout of MGM Backlot #3 from Judyonthebacklot


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/VHQZ4F.jpg
Judyonthebacklot



ethereal_reality Jul 3, 2020 3:25 PM

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Here'a fun image.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/XCwUdJ.jpg
old file / eBay


Myers Mfg. Co.

"Swim Easy" Revue

Industrial Exposition

Los Angeles, 1922


I found this newspaper clipping of Myrna Loy modeling a "Swim Easy" bathing suit. (but I don't believe Myrna Loy is one of the lovely ladies shown in the group photo)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/LMLhzj.jpg
old file [no date]




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ethereal_reality Jul 3, 2020 3:29 PM

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A "Swim-Easy" mystery location.


I believe the "Myers Mfg. Co. might be out of San Francisco but the photograph below was taken by a Los Angeles based photographer (Chateau Art Studio)
so I'd say the setting is possibly Los Angeles.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/VcovbI.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/FIRIse.jpg

Does the surrounding area look familiar to anyone?

The stitching on the swimsuit is beautiful. I believe she's holding her bathing cap. She forgot to wash her feet.


I wonder if the model is a silent film actress. . .ala Myrna Loy....(I have an idea who she might be but I need to do some research first)
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Bristolian Jul 3, 2020 8:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OJC1927 (Post 8969870)
OMG! I know exactly where this is! This is the intersection of 9th Street and Wilton, on the westernmost edge of Koreatown. The shot is looking across Wilton. The building sits on the SE corner of the intersection. The building is still there but is surrounded by stone framed wrought iron black fence. You can still see the the first floor windows when passing by but not the yard. It was recently undergoing renovations (Thank God!), until Covid hit and slowed down it's progress. The little house next door to the right is gone and was replaced with one of those 60's styled 2 story apartment buildings that runs depth wise on the property. I live one block east of this corner.

It's definitely the corner. The Studebaker and Cadillac have been replaced by a Prius. Progress? The ladies and policeman have also moved on. The lady on the right looks a lot like a much taller version of my dear departed mother. It looks like they were probably born around the same time.
https://i.imgur.com/Fw3iGOm.png?1

For comparison:

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Martin Pal Jul 3, 2020 10:18 PM

:previous:

There's also a stoplight replacing the policeman in the now photo and also a man behind the fence doing...something.

CaliNative Jul 3, 2020 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8970180)
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Here'a fun image.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/XCwUdJ.jpg
old file / eBay


Myers Mfg. Co.

"Swim Easy" Revue

Industrial Exposition

Los Angeles, 1922


I found this newspaper clipping of Myrna Loy modeling a "Swim Easy" bathing suit. (but I don't believe Myrna Loy is one of the lovely ladies shown in the group photo)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/LMLhzj.jpg
old file [no date]


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"Thoroughly Modern" Myrna was a looker. No wonder she became a star. Liked her naturalistic acting style too. Always liked the slim/healthy/athletic ladies with brains & she was that.:yes: Mae West was not my type, although her flims are funny. Did Myrna surf too or is she just posing with a long board? The modern era started in the '20s. Plant a 1920s person in today's world and they would feel at home in a few weeks & vis versa. Heck, a few people were probably still wearing masks as 1919 flowed into 1920 as the "Spanish" flu pandemic wound down. They did a better job with masks & social distancing than we are doing now with a few exceptions, like the unmasking party San Francisco had in 1918/19 followed by a surge.

Noir_Noir Jul 4, 2020 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8970184)
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A "Swim-Easy" mystery location.


I believe the "Myers Mfg. Co. might be out of San Francisco but the photograph below was taken by a Los Angeles based photographer (Chateau Art Studio)
so I'd say the setting is possibly Los Angeles.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/VcovbI.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/FIRIse.jpg

Does the surrounding area look familiar to anyone?

The stitching on the swimsuit is beautiful. I believe she's holding her bathing cap. She forgot to wash her feet.


I wonder if the model is a silent film actress. . .ala Myrna Loy....(I have an idea who she might be but I need to do some research first)
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Here's another from the same photoshoot with Delphine included.


https://i.imgur.com/LCx3npT.jpg
i.pinimg.com


Looks like it's a substantial hotel with an adjacent golf course. :shrug:



As for Delphine De Remeaux and her shot at stardom. She submitted a hand writing sample to showbiz writer Fritzi Remont who doubled as a “graphologist”
and offered character readings and vocational guidance to budding stars. :rolleyes:


https://i.imgur.com/GpXEYUO.jpg
archive.org - Camera - Sept 4th 1920


Maybe she got discouraged by Fritzi's suggestion that a motion picture career was not for her. :(

odinthor Jul 4, 2020 3:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8970184)
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A "Swim-Easy" mystery location.


I believe the "Myers Mfg. Co. might be out of San Francisco but the photograph below was taken by a Los Angeles based photographer (Chateau Art Studio)
so I'd say the setting is possibly Los Angeles.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/VcovbI.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/FIRIse.jpg

Does the surrounding area look familiar to anyone?

The stitching on the swimsuit is beautiful. I believe she's holding her bathing cap. She forgot to wash her feet.


I wonder if the model is a silent film actress. . .ala Myrna Loy....(I have an idea who she might be but I need to do some research first)
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e_r, didn't the Huntington Hotel in Pasadena have a renowned pool in this era (and so would make an obvious site for a shoot featuring swimwear)? The architecture--what one can see of it--with the angles and so on, makes the Huntington pop into my head (the wings of the hotel were/are not at right angles to the main structure).

CaliNative Jul 4, 2020 3:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8970184)
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A "Swim-Easy" mystery location.


I believe the "Myers Mfg. Co. might be out of San Francisco but the photograph below was taken by a Los Angeles based photographer (Chateau Art Studio)
so I'd say the setting is possibly Los Angeles.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/VcovbI.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/FIRIse.jpg

Does the surrounding area look familiar to anyone?

The stitching on the swimsuit is beautiful. I believe she's holding her bathing cap. She forgot to wash her feet.


I wonder if the model is a silent film actress. . .ala Myrna Loy....(I have an idea who she might be but I need to do some research first)
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^^^^
Not sure about the location, but it looks like a young Marion Douras, aka Marion Davies, the true love of a famous newspaper publisher and a very underrated comic actress (Chaplin said so). She bore little resemblance to the talentless mental lightweight "singer" in Orson W.'s "Citizen Kane". Orson, you did her wrong. Rosebud was not a sled.

Flyingwedge Jul 4, 2020 4:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8970184)


That appears to be the south side of the Ambassador Hotel, looking east toward the back of a house on Catalina Street.


Below is an undated photo looking west at the south side of the Ambassador (and the east end of its SE wing), with an
arrow pointing to the part of the hotel behind Ms. De Remeaux. The golf course is in the foreground:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

00007051 at LA Public Library


At the USC Digital Library, image DW-C1-10-19-ISLA is a 1940 aerial showing the Ambassador from about the same angle
as the undated photo. The golf course looks decommissioned and perhaps partly built-over, but you can tell about where
the photo with Delphine was taken.

HossC Jul 4, 2020 8:16 AM

Happy Birthday to NLA founder ethereal_reality. :happybirthday:

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...RBirthday1.jpg
Original at USC Digital Library

(Truth be told, I borrowed the cake from Carl Laemmle!)

Slauson Slim Jul 4, 2020 5:26 PM

Nearly every photo of contemporary Los Angeles here on Noirish Los Angeles, of both commercial and residential areas, shows cracked sidewalks and curbs, security bars, security grates, barbed wire, and bricked up windows and doors.

GaylordWilshire Jul 4, 2020 7:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8970184)
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A "Swim-Easy" mystery location.

I believe the "Myers Mfg. Co. might be out of San Francisco but the photograph below was taken by a Los Angeles based photographer (Chateau Art Studio)
so I'd say the setting is possibly Los Angeles.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/VcovbI.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/FIRIse.jpg

Does the surrounding area look familiar to anyone?

The stitching on the swimsuit is beautiful. I believe she's holding her bathing cap. She forgot to wash her feet.


Well, her piano legs aren't helping either. I don't think this is the much prettier Myrna, but Ms Loy was known to have not such great gams herself. You rarely see them in film. As for the house...

In the background is the rear of the 1910 Phineus Newmark house at 703 S Catalina...owned in the mid-1910s by hide dealer Aleck Brownstein (a Newmark relative) and by 1920 by "Razor King" King C. Gillette. Both Brownstein and Gillette added to the house.


The façade before expansion:

https://i.postimg.cc/TY2xbwGn/703catalina1-bmp.jpg
Kansas Sebastian


https://i.postimg.cc/sgBtPGLG/703catalinaaerial.jpg
USCDL

Martin Pal Jul 4, 2020 8:42 PM


Lwize Jul 4, 2020 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8970792)
Happy Birthday to NLA founder ethereal_reality. :happybirthday:

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...RBirthday1.jpg
Original at USC Digital Library

(Truth be told, I borrowed the cake from Carl Laemmle!)

I can't quite place it, but this image looks photoshopped.

ethereal_reality Jul 4, 2020 11:02 PM

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I hope everyone is having a great Fourth of July!

Here's an astonishing cabinet card of a family celebrating the Fourth of July in Pasadena. [c.1890]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/yU1aUR.jpg
old file / ebay

I love the bucolic feel. . .the sunlight filtered through the trees. . .the slight breeze (the flags are fluttering)

If you look closely, beneath the large flag on the left, there is a long table set up for refreshments.

The empty chairs on the right are no doubt where the people posing on the ground were sitting) - note the small flag someone has stuck in the tree.





Here's a closer look at the mystery family.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/chiQ2W.jpg
detail

Thanks for the birthday wishes! :fireworks:


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CaliNative Jul 4, 2020 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8970184)
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A "Swim-Easy" mystery location.


I believe the "Myers Mfg. Co. might be out of San Francisco but the photograph below was taken by a Los Angeles based photographer (Chateau Art Studio)
so I'd say the setting is possibly Los Angeles.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/VcovbI.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/FIRIse.jpg

Does the surrounding area look familiar to anyone?

The stitching on the swimsuit is beautiful. I believe she's holding her bathing cap. She forgot to wash her feet.


I wonder if the model is a silent film actress. . .ala Myrna Loy....(I have an idea who she might be but I need to do some research first)
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8970636)
Here's another from the same photoshoot with Delphine included.


https://i.imgur.com/LCx3npT.jpg
i.pinimg.com


Looks like it's a substantial hotel with an adjacent golf course. :shrug:



As for Delphine De Remeaux and her shot at stardom. She submitted a hand writing sample to showbiz writer Fritzi Remont who doubled as a “graphologist”
and offered character readings and vocational guidance to budding stars. :rolleyes:


https://i.imgur.com/GpXEYUO.jpg
archive.org - Camera - Sept 4th 1920


Maybe she got discouraged by Fritzi's suggestion that a motion picture career was not for her. :(

Could have sworn that was Marion Davies. Never heard of Delphine. Pretty obscure. Happy birthday---39?

CaliNative Jul 4, 2020 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8970792)
Happy Birthday to NLA founder ethereal_reality. :happybirthday:

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...RBirthday1.jpg
Original at USC Digital Library

(Truth be told, I borrowed the cake from Carl Laemmle!)

I believe that is Irving Thalberg on the right, the "boy wonder" of MGM, the one guy Louis B. Meyer deferred to, along with Irving's wife, Norma S.

odinthor Jul 5, 2020 12:02 AM

NLA has not, I think, visited Harlow's Cafe yet. Who will join me there tonight to toast e_r on his birthday?


https://i.postimg.cc/d0Zvx0Md/Harlow-Caf001.jpg
odinthor collection


https://i.postimg.cc/WpwVKKy9/Harlow...AT-13-9-15.jpg
LA Times, 9/15/1913


https://i.postimg.cc/0jWBvpDN/Harlow-Her-14-12-26.jpg
LA Herald, 12/26/1914


https://i.postimg.cc/NfGtwDqQ/Harlow-LAT-59-11-4.jpg
LA Times, 11/4/1959

Beaudry Jul 5, 2020 12:08 AM

Greetings fellow Noirishers, a buddy of mine had a request, so I'm taking it to the group:

Does anybody have a 1940s or 50s photo of 9701 Santa Monica Beverly Hills? It was where my great uncle had his store Beverly Uniform Shop. I remember going there once but liked going to his house better - it was one of the stilt houses near Universal Studios. https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0685...2!8i6656?hl=en

Thanks in advance for whatever y'all might turn up!

John Maddox Roberts Jul 5, 2020 4:15 AM

I just found out that the Rose Bowl July 4th fireworks have been cancelled for this year. When I was a boy in the Linda Vista neighborhood in Pasadena, we neighborhood kids would troop up the Chamberlain Street firebreak for a half-mile or so. From up there you were looking right down into the Rose Bowl and we'd sit there with our cokes and snacks and watch the fireworks. I wonder if kids still do that.

ScottyB Jul 5, 2020 6:16 AM

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Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 8971398)
I just found out that the Rose Bowl July 4th fireworks have been cancelled for this year. When I was a boy in the Linda Vista neighborhood in Pasadena, we neighborhood kids would troop up the Chamberlain Street firebreak for a half-mile or so. From up there you were looking right down into the Rose Bowl and we'd sit there with our cokes and snacks and watch the fireworks. I wonder if kids still do that.


In recent years the streets in the San Rafaels above the Rose Bowl become swamped with cars despite the manned PPD barriers at the entry points.....quite a mess (my Dad's house is up there, and, yes, we would watch from the hills).....but I prefer that to the barrage of shells currently assaulting the greater Los Angeles area! Hundreds can be heard every minute.:surrender:

MartinTurnbull Jul 5, 2020 2:26 PM

Not the Boy Wonder
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8971240)
I believe that is Irving Thalberg on the right, the "boy wonder" of MGM, the one guy Louis B. Meyer deferred to, along with Irving's wife, Norma S.

Nope! That's not Irving Thalberg or Norma Shearer or LB Mayer. (I've just released a novel about Thalberg called "The Heart of the Lion" which I researched for 2.5 years, so I know Thalberg's face when I see (and don't see) it.)

This is them:

https://martinturnbull.files.wordpre...g-thalberg.jpg

ethereal_reality Jul 5, 2020 3:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8971252)
NLA has not, I think, visited Harlow's Cafe yet. Who will join me there tonight to toast e_r on his birthday?


https://i.postimg.cc/d0Zvx0Md/Harlow-Caf001.jpg
odinthor collection

:previous:
That's a beautiful interior. It's a bit odd to leave off the address on a printed postcard. (odinthor. .or is the street address on the back?)

Judging by the entrance(?) on the right, where you see the impressive lion's head, a person takes several steps down to enter the cafe proper.
I take that to mean the cafe is below ground. (but not by very much)

Now try to imagine an ice skating rink in that space!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/o9Le3B.jpg
Los Angeles Herald March 16, 1916




postscript:

The ad for Harlow's Cafe in odinthor's post has the address as 311 1/2 S. Spring and 208 1/2 Third St but I just noticed the address in the ice rink blurb
is "Second and Spring".

Do you think this is an entirely new space adjacent to the cafe or simple a different entrance to the same cafe as shown in odinthor's postcard. :shrug:

Enquiring minds want to know.





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Noir_Noir Jul 5, 2020 4:49 PM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8971252)
NLA has not, I think, visited Harlow's Cafe yet. Who will join me there tonight to toast e_r on his birthday?


https://i.postimg.cc/d0Zvx0Md/Harlow-Caf001.jpg
odinthor collection



Harlow's other cafe in Venice.


https://i.imgur.com/3CfnPcD.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org - Santa Monica City Directory 1919-1920

HossC Jul 5, 2020 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8971240)

I believe that is Irving Thalberg on the right, the "boy wonder" of MGM, the one guy Louis B. Meyer deferred to, along with Irving's wife, Norma S.

According to the original photo's title, it's "Carl Laemmle presenting piece of cake to his son [Carl Laemmle, Jr], 1934".

ethereal_reality Jul 5, 2020 5:34 PM

:previous:

Noir Noir, that's an amazing photogragh! I don't remember seeing the interior of the Dome Cafe. It's awesome.





It appears C. Fred Harlow also owned a "roadhouse" in Culver City. It was seized by the federal authorities in 1921.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ilByoS.jpg

I didn't realize the federal government could seize property under the Volstead Act.


I'm posted this LARGE for easier reading.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/9pJoHr.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/y7Xum6.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/J825h6.jpg
Los Angeles Herald Feb. 15, 1921


Here are the three other interesting places in hot water: ......The Castle Inn (Ocean Park)........The Tumble Inn (on the highway) What highway?.....and Baron Long's Vernon Country Club.


Baron Long and the Vernon Country Club rings bell or two. - Unless I'm mistaken it had a training area for boxers & held boxing matches(?)

The Tumble Inn rings half a bell.

The Castle Inn rings no bell at all.



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Martin Pal Jul 5, 2020 6:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 8971398)
I just found out that the Rose Bowl July 4th fireworks have been cancelled for this year. When I was a boy in the Linda Vista neighborhood in Pasadena, we neighborhood kids would troop up the Chamberlain Street firebreak for a half-mile or so. From up there you were looking right down into the Rose Bowl and we'd sit there with our cokes and snacks and watch the fireworks. I wonder if kids still do that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyB (Post 8971439)
In recent years the streets in the San Rafaels above the Rose Bowl become swamped with cars despite the manned PPD barriers at the entry points.....quite a mess (my Dad's house is up there, and, yes, we would watch from the hills).....but I prefer that to the barrage of shells currently assaulting the greater Los Angeles area! Hundreds can be heard every minute.:surrender:


No fireworks, but:

Moviegoers Rejoice as Rose Bowl Turns Into Drive-In Theater This Weekend
The Rose Bowl in Pasadena will not have a fireworks display this holiday weekend, but it is host to the latest drive-in movie theater in Southern California.

Story with video:
https://abc7.com/rose-bowl-drive-in-...adena/6294184/

It's $30 per car, no matter how many are in the car. I know someone who attended there last night, but haven't spoken with them about it yet.

As for all the cancelled fireworks shows:

With Most Firework Shows Canceled, SoCal Residents Set Off Their Own 4th of July Celebrations
Although fireworks are illegal in the city of Los Angeles and all firework displays are banned in L.A. County this year, that didn't stop residents on Saturday night, putting citizens in danger. The Los Angeles Fire Department said it responded to over 100 fires, including 29 structure fires, 12 brush and tree fires and 116 rubbish fires. It's unclear if fireworks were responsible for all them but the department tweeted "Fireworks are not toys."

Story with videos:
https://abc7.com/society/illegal-fir...a-sky/6298951/

I think it was just to celebrate NLA and E_R's birthday! Was this going on in other cities and towns?

ProphetM Jul 5, 2020 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8971688)
No fireworks, but:

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As for all the cancelled fireworks shows:

With Most Firework Shows Canceled, SoCal Residents Set Off Their Own 4th of July Celebrations
Although fireworks are illegal in the city of Los Angeles and all firework displays are banned in L.A. County this year, that didn't stop residents on Saturday night, putting citizens in danger. The Los Angeles Fire Department said it responded to over 100 fires, including 29 structure fires, 12 brush and tree fires and 116 rubbish fires. It's unclear if fireworks were responsible for all them but the department tweeted "Fireworks are not toys."

Story with videos:
https://abc7.com/society/illegal-fir...a-sky/6298951/

I think it was just to celebrate NLA and E_R's birthday! Was this going on in other cities and towns?

Here in Las Vegas my neighborhood sounded like a war zone. Most illegal fireworks that I've ever heard in 21 years in this house. The explosions had started by 6 pm and didn't really let up until after 11, and didn't actually stop until after midnight. I was using Las Vegas's online illegal fireworks reporting site non-stop for 3+ hours. Not that any police ever showed up, of course.

My sister's neighborhood was the same.

odinthor Jul 5, 2020 8:34 PM

e_r, Here's the back of the postcard . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/Nj7WMtpH/Harlow-Caf-Rev001.jpg
odinthor collection

I believe that the newspaper article you noticed made what we call, in technical journalese parlance, a boo-boo in referring to 2nd St., as I can't find any other references to Harlow having a rink on 2nd St. The cafe itself was being overhauled:

https://i.postimg.cc/dQkpCr5v/Harlow...er-16-2-22.jpg
LA Herald, 2/22/1916

And Harlow had looked for local talent for the show:

https://i.postimg.cc/vBHMMTyT/Harlow...er-16-2-18.jpg
LA Herald, 2/18/1916


Ice Rinks seem to have been all the rage at the time. Within a few months, there were no fewer than three:

At Harlow's Cafe, as we saw; and then . . . at the Alexandria:

https://i.postimg.cc/bw33Wwm3/Harlow...AT-16-4-20.jpg
LA Times, 4/20/1916

And the Bristol Cafe:

https://i.postimg.cc/xjzp8Yd1/Harlow...AT-16-2-27.jpg
LA Times, 2/27/1916


And then there's . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/zfQpDPZh/Harlow...AT-16-4-26.jpg
LA Times, 4/26/1916


Harlow was feeling generous. He had just given a free Christmas dinner to 150 local children:

https://i.postimg.cc/Bbj0LzXG/Harlow...-15-12-26a.jpg
LA Times, 12/26/1915; Harlow smiling at right, wife Lulu Bell benignly presiding over the youngsters, and I suspect son Roy is the grinning young gentleman immediately next to Harlow. The young gent farther back, behind both Mrs. Harlow and Roy, seems to be having a moment of dubiety about the whole enterprise. (The partial pic at bottom concerns an unrelated event.)


The needy were selected, with the help of Harlow's son Roy:

https://i.postimg.cc/NG3VkFnX/Harlow...-15-12-26b.jpg
LA Times, 12/26/1915

BillinGlendaleCA Jul 6, 2020 2:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 8971723)
Here in Las Vegas my neighborhood sounded like a war zone. Most illegal fireworks that I've ever heard in 21 years in this house. The explosions had started by 6 pm and didn't really let up until after 11, and didn't actually stop until after midnight. I was using Las Vegas's online illegal fireworks reporting site non-stop for 3+ hours. Not that any police ever showed up, of course.

My sister's neighborhood was the same.

They didn't stop here in Glendale until about 4am. The air was so smokey that it reminded me of LA in the 50's and 60's except the smoke was blue. My eyes were stinging all day today. I guess folk really got into celebrating E_R's b-day. I guess that's appropriate since it's one of the big ones, IIRC(I'm a few months older than E_R I believe).

CaliNative Jul 6, 2020 4:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 8971545)
Nope! That's not Irving Thalberg or Norma Shearer or LB Mayer. (I've just released a novel about Thalberg called "The Heart of the Lion" which I researched for 2.5 years, so I know Thalberg's face when I see (and don't see) it.)

This is them:

https://martinturnbull.files.wordpre...g-thalberg.jpg

I didn't say Shearer or L.B. were in the photo, I just said the guy on the right appears to be Thalberg. Take a close look...Thalberg...quite sure. Is the older dude near the cake Laemlee?

CaliNative Jul 6, 2020 4:36 AM

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Noir_Noir Jul 6, 2020 1:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8972032)
I didn't say Shearer or L.B. were in the photo, I just said the guy on the right appears to be Thalberg. Take a close look...Thalberg...quite sure. Is the older dude near the cake Laemlee?



The forensics are in and they're saying the fellow on the right in the birthday cake picture is Carl Laemmle Jr.


https://i.imgur.com/DxgrA53.jpg


:)

ethereal_reality Jul 6, 2020 2:40 PM

.

Here is a beauty contestant winner wearing, what I believe to be, a 'Swim Easy' bathing suit.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/AjXGfD.jpg
old file / worthpoint

Her name is Marie McDonald and she placed third.

The mystery here is the VP on her elaborately stitched swimsuit.



REVERSE
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/2GPMWq.jpg

KEYSTONE PHOTO SERVICE

1231 South Olive Street

LOS ANGELES







I haven't any information on this photo but it's fun to look at nevertheless.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/KJiHgD.jpg
pinterest

If you look closely "Swim Easy" is stitched along the hem of the swimsuits.





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ethereal_reality Jul 6, 2020 3:59 PM

Before we get too far removed from the Noll & Company dice and gambling equipment manufacturer. (they of the tragic nitro-cellulose dice which killed three employees. Link)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/BbLJmW.jpg
Noll & Company

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Here is another Los Angeles based dice/gambling manufacturer.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/L4y6xV.jpg
trking.com

T.R.King and Co.

123 E. 6th Street

Los Angeles, California. . . . . . . . .


The TR stands for Teddy Roosevelt and the King part is for the crown style molds they used for their chips.




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/vLI5zQ.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/6gECni.jpg


This chip is soooooo cool!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/Y0PUqB.jpg


Some history:

The company was started in Kansas City in the 1920s by Milton C. Anderson.
in 1931, the company moved to Los Angeles, California. They first set up shop on South Olive street. (I don't know when it moved to Sixth St.)

The company changed hands in 1956.

"In 1956 Anderson wanted to sell his company. He approached his salesman, Paul Endy, Sr., who along with a partner, George Davies, agreed to buy TR King."


I found this very interesting.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/okbfpr.jpg
trking.com


The company was eventually banned from selling chips in Nevada because of their illegal chips.


You can read more about Here but the site is old and many of the 'pages' no longer work) - like the 'gallery' :(



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odinthor Jul 6, 2020 6:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8972299)
Before we get too far removed from the Noll & Company dice and gambling equipment manufacturer. (they of the tragic nitro-cellulose dice which killed three employees. Link)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/BbLJmW.jpg
Noll & Company

____________________________________________________________








Here is another Los Angeles based dice/gambling manufacturer.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/L4y6xV.jpg
trking.com

T.R.King and Co.

123 E. 6th Street

Los Angeles, California. . . . . . . . .


The TR stands for Teddy Roosevelt and the King part is for the crown style molds they used for their chips.




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/vLI5zQ.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/6gECni.jpg


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123 E. 6th is directly across the street from Cole's Pacific Electric Grill.

https://i.postimg.cc/pVkBRbpp/123E6th.jpg
gsv

HossC Jul 6, 2020 7:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8972299)

Here is another Los Angeles based dice/gambling manufacturer.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/L4y6xV.jpg
trking.com

T.R.King and Co.

123 E. 6th Street

Los Angeles, California. . . . . . . . .


The TR stands for Teddy Roosevelt and the King part is for the crown style molds they used for their chips.

...

Some history:

The company was started in Kansas City in the 1920s by Milton C. Anderson.
in 1931, the company moved to Los Angeles, California. They first set up shop on South Olive street. (I don't know when it moved to Sixth St.)

The company changed hands in 1956.

"In 1956 Anderson wanted to sell his company. He approached his salesman, Paul Endy, Sr., who along with a partner, George Davies, agreed to buy TR King."

Here are the addresses I found for T R King Co in the CDs:

1931
218 S Broadway

1933
213 S Broadway

1934
213 S Broadway & 636½ S Main Street

1934
213 S Broadway & 644 S Main Street

1936 & 1939
644 S Main Street
(The 1937 & 1938 CDs list the company as Milton C Anderson at 644 S Main)

1940-1942
123 E Sixth Street

1956-1969
1035 S Olive Street

1973
1245 S Hope Street

1987
400 W Pico Boulevard

Scott Charles Jul 6, 2020 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8971988)
They didn't stop here in Glendale until about 4am. The air was so smokey that it reminded me of LA in the 50's and 60's except the smoke was blue. My eyes were stinging all day today.

I was downtown when the recent brush fires happened - stinging eyes and impossible to breathe. Probably someone setting off illegal fireworks.

Here's the view after I left downtown, looking back:

https://i.imgur.com/FmE7wob.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SKDPDJC.jpg

Flyingwedge Jul 7, 2020 4:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8970792)

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...RBirthday1.jpg
Original at USC Digital Library

(Truth be told, I borrowed the cake from Carl Laemmle!)


How much do you think that cake weighed? (Answer at bottom)

The only description with this photo (other than the 1/19/34 date) is "Carl Laemmle, Sr., presenting piece of birthday cake to
Carl Laemmle, Jr.". However, I believe the guy in the cowboy hat is western star Ken Maynard.

In 1934, Maynard and his then-wife Mary were living at 315 S. Las Palmas Avenue.


Here's a photo of Maynard from 1962 (the caption is cut off on the original):

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

Historic Images Outlet


Maynard tripped on a step in 1971 ("I was sober, too.") and injured a leg. He died in 1973.


Back to the cake . . . whoever guessed 67 pounds . . . you win!

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

January 18, 1934, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LA Public Library

CaliNative Jul 7, 2020 7:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8972172)
The forensics are in and they're saying the fellow on the right in the birthday cake picture is Carl Laemmle Jr.


https://i.imgur.com/DxgrA53.jpg


:)

Very impressive sleuthing.

CaliNative Jul 7, 2020 7:38 AM

Here's a photo of Maynard from 1962 (the caption is cut off on the original):

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

Historic Images Outlet

Looks like Jay Leno in about 10 years if he had a bigger lantern jaw.

Snix Jul 7, 2020 7:12 PM

1356 S. Flower
 
I made an inquiry with (ghost) Councilman Huizar's office to see if the brick building would be included in the new project. Here is the reply from city planning:

"...The project located at 1334-1356 South Flower Street was approved under City Planning Case No. DIR-2017-4-TDR-SPR in December 2018. The approved plans associated with the case contain the brick facade. As far as we are aware, there has been no change requests or a new filing for this property. The proposal depicted and described on the UrbanizedLA website is a different use and design so that would necessitate a new filing as the change would not be in substantial conformance."

If any of you see construction there, let me know and I will follow up with the council office.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8968996)
This project which was all set to go in 2019 would have incorporated your building into the design.


https://i.imgur.com/8Up2Ctv.jpg
urbanize.la


But in fairly quick time that all seems to have been superseded by this, set for 2021.


https://i.imgur.com/bHxKKVu.jpg
urbanize.la


I don't spot it as a feature this time round.



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