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rcarlton Jan 14, 2013 6:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5965427)
"Ornate street lights -- relics of gingerbread era -- H.J. Lindhardt, Bureau of Street Lighing, examines fixtures." -- Examiner clipping attached to verso, dated 4 October 1959.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...001&DMROTATE=0USC

I wonder if the article in the Examiner would answer the question as to when the street lights were changed.:shrug:

tovangar2 Jan 14, 2013 6:35 PM

Big Trees: Morton Bay Fig / Sen. J. P. Jones: Miramar
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5971884)

Can't let a pic of one of our Big Trees come up without adding the history:
http://www.santamonicalandmarks.com/landmk20.html

The Miramar Morton Bay Fig is the second largest in California. The champ is in Santa Barbara:

http://sbmerge.com/wp-content/upload...a-barbara.jpeg
sbmerge.com

http://www.andysnow.com/legacy/newvi.../sbfigtree.JPG
andysnow.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moreton...ra,_California)

It's just near the old Southern Pacific Station, also worth a look if you're ever up that way.

West LA has one too: http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...-fig-tree.html

P.S.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5971884)
Santa Monica's Miramar
December 14, 1937
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics33/00066084.jpgLapl

Here's a "Before" of the old Senator John Pecival Jones home, "Miramar", pre-remodel, pre-hotel and pre-signage:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ramar-1890.jpg
wiki

Christmas at Miramar, 1897:
http://o1.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dim...81bc5a8d111d6c
santamonicapatch

The front porch at Miramar:
http://digital.smpl.org/cgi-bin/geti...B=1&DMROTATE=0
http://digital.smpl.org/cdm4/item_vi...SOBOX=1&REC=14

Miramar was sold to King Gillette in 1912, used as a military academy and finally sold for use as a hotel in 1921.

see also: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3724

The Jones' neighbor at Wilshire and Ocean was Frederick Hastings Rindge and his wife May:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b...236%2520PM.jpg
Fred E. Baston

This was the Rindge's main home from 1887 until 1904 when their Havard Blvd home was built. All three of their children were born at the Santa Monica house.

The Rindge's new home on Harvard Blvd, with its round, Norman-style towers, is reminiscent of Miramar. It may represent a slight case of 'keeping up with the Joneses'.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...House_1910.jpg
wiki

tovangar2 Jan 14, 2013 6:54 PM

DTLA 5-globe streetlamps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5972628)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...001&DMROTATE=0
I wonder if the article in the Examiner would answer the question as to when the street lights were changed.:shrug:

The five-globe DTLA lamps were so festive and gave such a sense of place. The different lamps for various neighborhoods gave real identity in the sprawl. I'm endlessly grateful our neighborhood still has its original lamps. The then-new lamps seem to have inspired Parkinson's exterior illuminations to the Alexandria Hotel and, as we have just seen, were mimicked in the King Edward Hotel's original lobby lighting fixtures.

Chuckaluck Jan 14, 2013 8:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5972645)
Can't let a pic of one of our Big Trees come up without adding the history:
http://www.santamonicalandmarks.com/landmk20.html

The Miramar Morton Bay Fig is the second largest in California. The champ is in Santa Barbara

Ficus macrophylla
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/home...th-a-look.html


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6...19db970c-600wi

The City of Glendora is proud of its Ficus/Fig Tree too. (665 S. Santa Fe Ave, Glendora, CA 91740)
http://activerain.com/image_store/up...6195159498.jpghttp://activerain.com/blogsview/1928...-big-tree-park

1937 - Glendora Ave (formerly Michigan Ave) looking north. Trees were evidently replaced with ficus trees.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00076/00076271.jpgLapl

Anaheim may not have been as proud of its 100-year-old tree since it was lopped at the roots in 1960. Euclid and LaPalma Avenues.
http://imgzoom.cdlib.org/Converter?i...26&w=681&h=771cdlib.org

tovangar2 Jan 14, 2013 8:43 PM

Morton Bay Fig Trees / La Mesa Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 5972786)

Yes! I've seen that article. La Mesa Drive has a hell of a streetscape:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6...a3e3970b-600wi
LAT

Even more impressive in person.

tovangar2 Jan 14, 2013 10:21 PM

Carlos and Gower, Hollywood
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BDiH (Post 5962317)
I've searched high & low for vintage photos of Carlos Avenue, east or west of Gower Street. Anyone have any or know where they can be found?
Thanks.

Just the one. (how "vintage"?)

http://www.scpr.org/news/2012/08/10/...are-lapd-onio/

Chuckaluck Jan 14, 2013 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5965427)
"Ornate street lights -- relics of gingerbread era -- H.J. Lindhardt, Bureau of Street Lighing, examines fixtures." -- Examiner clipping attached to verso, dated 4 October 1959.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...001&DMROTATE=0USC

Can't quite put my finger on it, but your photo reminds me of the Jack in the Box restaurant chain that is so prevalent in the So Cal Area. I believe its roots go back to San Diego in '51.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md...63xro1_500.jpg

J in the B in Los Angeles
http://american-business.org/uploads...estaurants.jpghttp://american-business.org/2477-fa...staurants.html


Not that there is any direct relationship, but there was a restaurant on the 9000 Block of West Sunset that went by the name of "Hamburger Jacks.")

1937 (??)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics43/00071369.jpgLapl

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6...idemarket1.jpghttp://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2...rgoburlesk.jpg http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=917




More fast food potpourri:

Undated
Somewhere in El Monte - Undated
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...UTGS1U6KGY.jpgCalStLib

1970 "Jack and Hy" on Olive Street
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...13TK6GDI4Q.jpg

1986 the same "Jack and Hy."
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...LLT34TS9AB.jpgCalStLib

May 25, 1962 - Another orb-related eatery. Don's "future" Dugout on Oxnard Street in Van Nuys
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052205.jpgLapl

rbpjr Jan 14, 2013 11:30 PM

John C. Fremont High School
 
I attended John C. Fremont High School around '50 to '52...all the original buildings were there from 1926...beautiful buildings and campus...in those days...now, I understand...just the auditorium survives to this day...

Chuckaluck Jan 14, 2013 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5966667)
I jumped the gun. There are two other 'White Spot' negatives as well.
Some of the signs are missing, and if I'm looking at it correctly, so is the Geo T. Cline Building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img826/4122/aabbwhite.jpg
ebay

The "White Spot" name was popular enough to live on as a "White Spot" hamburger stand/shop at 2403 Whittier Blvd. (1960) Not suggesting any known connection with ^^^^^, but you never know. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...=0&search_doc=

GaylordWilshire Jan 14, 2013 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 5973121)
I attended John C. Fremont High School around '50 to '52...all the original buildings were there from 1926...beautiful buildings and campus...in those days...now, I understand...just the auditorium survives to this day...

Pictures here:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6657

tovangar2 Jan 15, 2013 12:52 AM

King Gillette Ranch / Wallace Neff
 
Speaking of King Gillette (1855-1932), he was a bit of an oddball. According to wiki he was, among other things, a Utopian Socialist. He advocated that all industry should be taken over by a single corporation owned by the public, and that everyone in the US should live in a giant city called Metropolis powered by Niagara Falls. Gillette made no small plans.

When Metropolis didn't take off (Teddy Roosevelt turned down the presidency of the corporation, including the $1 million salary), Gillette bought a 588 acre property in the Santa Monica Mountains, adjacent to what later would become Malibu Creek State Park, and commissioned Wallace Neff to build him, "a paradise on earth, California style".

The parcel of land is beautiful, a high, flat valley that leaves the mountain tops looking like little hills surrounding the property. The setting really is gorgeous and very remote. When one is there the cares of the world below seem very far away. A true life Shangri La:

http://www.trbimg.com/img-505ca4da/t...g-20120920/600
LAT

http://www.cityofcalabasas.com/envir...l/gillette.jpg
cityofcalabasas.com

http://lamountains.com/enlarged_images/aerial-bldgs.jpg
lamountains.com

http://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-con...g_6493-800.jpg
iamnotastalker.com

http://aka-img-1.h-img.com/media/img...83336.400_600r
hunch.com

"MGM movie director Clarence Brown (Anna Karenina, National Velvet) bought the property in 1930, following Gillette's death. Brown built a private airstrip for elaborate MGM "fly-in parties" that were attended by such luminaries as Clark Gable and Greta Garbo."
-santa monica mountains conservancy


The property became an RC retreat in 1952 and was then sold to Soka University in '86. Soka, a Japanese concern, was great, pretty much letting the public in for any reason. Finally it was bought for the public in 2005 and opened in 2007. So now it belongs to everyone, even though it's not powered by Niagara Falls:
http://www.trbimg.com/img-4fb69aaf/t...ains20-001/600
LAT

MORE:

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep...ranch-20120922

http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-...5.photogallery


1906 ad:
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1906-Gillette...!H2RQ~~_12.JPG
eBay

1931:
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Original-1931...-PQ~~60_57.JPG
eBay

rbpjr Jan 15, 2013 1:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5973146)

I had forgotten that I had posted before...so thanks for the reminder...my brother attended the old Los Angeles High School a couple of years later...gone now.

Chuckaluck Jan 15, 2013 1:53 AM

King Camp Gillette's 1917 abode at 100 Fremont Place. Probably mentioned before. Neither a whisker nor a blade of grass out of place?

Circa 1972
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061652.jpglapl

kznyc2k Jan 15, 2013 6:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 5972593)
^^^

It's crazy to believe they could remove a vertical slice from a steel-reinforced concrete 13-story building, then slide the pieces together. what about the foundation and/or basement?!
They must have had assistance from space aliens.

No kidding! That picture--and the accompanying story--are unbelievable. Amazing that someone would go through all that effort over 5 feet (and amazing that the city made that demand!).

GaylordWilshire Jan 15, 2013 2:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 5973261)
King Camp Gillette's 1917 abode at 100 Fremont Place. Probably mentioned before. Neither a whisker nor a blade of grass out of place?

Circa 1972
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061652.jpglapl


Love that the FP Patrol was using a 17-year-old Dodge.... A history of 100 Fremont Place is here: http://fremontplace.blogspot.com/201...e-see-our.html

Note that it wasn't "razor king" King C. Gillette who occupied 100 FP after its original builder, Charles Henry Thompson--but rather his son, King Gaines Gillette. No doubt that real-estate salesmen perpetuate the myth of the famous father having lived in the house (he lived on Catalina Street when he was in town).


http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4824/gillettecompl.jpgLAT


K G Gillette didn't stay long. By 1928, the house was the home of John J. Cantwell, bishop of the diocese of L.A. and San Diego. A private chapel was added to the house that year.

tovangar2 Jan 15, 2013 7:02 PM

Grauman's Chinese Theater
 
http://www.lamag.com/EI/sharedobject...=&h=500&mh=500

Los Angeles, CA –
Here’s Why Sid Grauman’s Name Should Not Disappear From His Chinese Theatre

by Theatre Historical Society

Elie Samaha and Don Kushner, who purchased Grauman’s Chinese Theatre from mall owner CIM at a reported cost of $10 million in 2011, announced this morning that they have sold naming rights to the Hollywood showplace. The gentlemen have earned half their investment back in a deal to strip off Sid Grauman’s name and rename the theater in honor of Chinese TV manufacturer TCL...


http://www.lamag.com/citythink/askch...hinese-theatre

FrankAbignaleJr. Jan 15, 2013 7:18 PM

The Gillette pool
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5973200)
Speaking of King Gillette (1855-1932), he was a bit of an oddball. According to wiki he was, among other things, a Utopian Socialist. He advocated that all industry should be taken over by a single corporation owned by the public, and that everyone in the US should live in a giant city called Metropolis powered by Niagara Falls. Gillette made no small plans.

When Metropolis didn't take off (Teddy Roosevelt turned down the presidency of the corporation, including the $1 million salary), Gillette bought a 588 acre property in the Santa Monica Mountains, adjacent to what later would become Malibu Creek State Park, and commissioned Wallace Neff to build him, "a paradise on earth, California style".

The parcel of land is beautiful, a high, flat valley that leaves the mountain tops looking like little hills surrounding the property
The property became an RC retreat in 1952 and was then sold to Soka University in '86. Soka, a Japanese concern, was great, pretty much letting the public in for any reason. Finally it was bought for the public in 2005 and opened in 2007. So now it belongs to everyone, even though it's not powered by Niagara Falls

If you look at the pool on the property it is actually in the shape of one of his patented safety razors

tovangar2 Jan 15, 2013 7:41 PM

King Gillette
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5973728)
Gillette didn't stay long.

Gillette was living in "paradise, California style" by 1926 and died in '32.


King got the idea for disposable blades (his one great idea* which did take off) from bottle caps. Something everyone needed, bought and discarded, over and over again.

http://www.celebrateboston.com/image...fety-razor.jpg
celebrateboston

And one more of those great Gillette ads:
http://beta.fool.com/media/images/us...ng_1_large.jpg
motleyfool

* If 'planned obsolescence' can be called a 'great idea'.

Godzilla Jan 15, 2013 7:52 PM

A lot of history at 6th and Olive Streets, some of which was influenced by King C. Gillette.


Quote:

On November 10, 1924, safety razor magnate King C. Gillette wrote a check for $1.475 million to purchase the southeast corner of 6th and Olive from the estate of the late Mrs. Mary H. Spires.

The purchase, which the Los Angeles Times called "one of the biggest spot-cash realty deals in the history of the city," looks to have been a bust for Gillette. His widow sold the site, which now contains a 1960s City National Bank tower, just ten years later for approximately $500,000.

In 1921, Spires had built a two-story building on the lot, and Gillette immediately announced plans to tear it down and construct "one of the most monumental office buildings in the city," according to the Times.

Leases in the building ran until 1931, however, and Gillette elected to let them run out before starting work. In the meantime, he had building plans drawn up by Parkinson & Parkinson. Gillette announced a 99-year-lease with the head of Western National Bank in May of 1929, but the national economy may have acted to crush construction plans there.

Gillette passed away in 1932, and his widow, Atlanta E. Gillette, sold the property to the Property Services Corporation in November of 1934. While the exact purchase price was not disclosed, it was said to be roughly one-third the original price the Gillettes had paid.

The new owners quickly announced a $125,000 modern facelift for the now 14-year-old building.

They didn't hold onto it long, turning around and selling the property to Union Pacific in March of 1937 for $1,000,000. The railroad had recently leased the ground floor for its ticket office.

It wasn't until 1963 that the property next changed hands. Union Pacific sold the site to City National Bank, which then erected the tower on the corner today.http://blogdowntown.com/2009/11/4840...ays-15-million

1909 - 6th and Olive - Pacific Mutual
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0USC Digital



1920-21 Western Tire Company store, southeast corner of Sixth Street and Olive Street.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0USC Digital


1927
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0USC Digital

Take me to the Bimini Baths please!
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0


1938-56 Looking east/southeast from the corners of Sixth and Olive Streets
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0



1940 Associated Realty Building (6th and Olive)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0
USC Digital

1927 - Sun Finance Bldg.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0
USC Digital


1950-60 (?) Union Pacific at right
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...eet&DMROTATE=0 USC Digital

GaylordWilshire Jan 15, 2013 8:44 PM

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2000/dahliadual.jpg
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8218/dahlialawn.jpg


66 years ago today, the body of a key noir figure was found here...


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