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ethereal_reality Dec 17, 2012 4:12 AM

We haven't seen the Mooers House since GaylordWilshire's post dated June 9, 2010.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1465




below: The asymmetrical design beneath the eve resembles a wave! How remarkable is that?

818 South Bonnie Brae.
http://imageshack.us/a/img818/8489/a...enotsincej.jpg
http://www.dsoderblog.com/

....just amazing. :) I love it.

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sopas ej Dec 17, 2012 4:14 AM

I don't remember if this picture was posted on this thread before, but I saw this today and thought it was interesting, because it shows the two LA Times buildings from different eras existing at the same time.

May 4, 1936
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7...ngsmay4193.jpg
Los Angeles Times

From the caption: May 4, 1936: In a rooftop view looking down Broadway, the third Los Angeles Times building dominates the intersection at First St. In the background at the left is the current Times building.

The third Los Angeles Times building opened on Oct. 1, 1912 — on the second anniversary of the bombing of the second Times building. It was used until the new Times Building was opened in 1935. The building was torn down in early 1938.

Source: http://framework.latimes.com/2012/12...g-on-broadway/

tovangar2 Dec 17, 2012 4:16 AM

Beverly Hills Hotel site
 
Speaking of Elmer Grey hotels, I wonder if this design was rejected:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U...941%2520PM.jpg
ryerson & burnham archives, art institute of chicago

...in favor of this. The terrain looks very similar:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...11_drawing.jpg
wiki

...although the drawing says "Hollywood", not BH.

ethereal_reality Dec 17, 2012 4:25 AM

Abracadabra! A Hudson dealership downtown.

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/1236/a...ntownlosan.jpg
ad/ebay



The Hudson building today.

http://imageshack.us/a/img839/7857/a...ntownlatod.jpg
google street view
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ProphetM Dec 17, 2012 4:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5940717)


That first floor is quite unfortunate, but all in all it could be a lot worse!

And there's a lovely ghost sign for the Reo Speedwagon and the used car dept:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-X...202%2520PM.jpg

I wonder if Reo was there before, after, or concurrently with Hudson. You can still make out "HUDSON" on the street-facing side of the building at the very top.

ethereal_reality Dec 17, 2012 5:13 AM

:previous: Good eye ProphetM. I missed the ghost sign completely.
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originally posted by sopas_ej
http://imageshack.us/a/img812/4278/a...936sopasej.jpg
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I am impressed that the architect of the addition included 'buttresses' that mimic the original buttresses on the Los Angeles Times building.
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ethereal_reality Dec 17, 2012 5:32 AM

A Burbank overlook? I had no idea.

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/3949/a...koutpcmuse.jpg
ebay
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ethereal_reality Dec 17, 2012 6:08 AM

Mamie Van Doren rides her 'motorcycle' to the beach with parents in tow. (1964)


http://imageshack.us/a/img17/5410/aa...unsetplaza.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVW5hm8HMqc

You get a quick view of Sunset Plaza.




below: As they travel west they go through a tunnel. Where is this?

http://imageshack.us/a/img811/6097/a...tunnel1964.jpg


Ms. Van Doren is somewhat charming in the video but she should have spit out her gum.

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tovangar2 Dec 17, 2012 7:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5940816)
below: As they travel west they go through a tunnel. Where is this?

http://imageshack.us/a/img811/6097/a...tunnel1964.jpg

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Looks like the Sepulveda Blvd one at the crest. It goes under Mulholland. If it's the same one, it's been refaced.

P.S. Looking at it again, it's more likely in Malibu Canyon. It's too wild around where they're riding for Sepulveda Pass in the 60's.

P.P.S. Here it is. Malibu Canyon Rd. LOL, I'd forgotten the "Pink Lady"
October 1966:
http://www.csudh.edu/oliver/sabrep/pink-lr.jpg
Hubert A. McClain

November 1966:
http://www.woostercollective.com/pinklady4-thumb.jpg
http://blogs.kcrw.com/shortcuts/the-...popular-demand

today:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-whg6KpH4co...bu-cyn-rd3.jpg
allthegoodblognamesreallyaretaken

tovangar2 Dec 17, 2012 9:34 AM

Belmont Tunnel & Sub-Station
 
Graffiti Archaeology has a bit more on the Belmont Tunnel & Sub-station (re FredH's post on page 547):http://grafarc.org/index.html

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-q...447%2520AM.jpg
30 July 2005 - cassidy curtis

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l...402%2520AM.jpg
May 2011 - gvs

tovangar2 Dec 17, 2012 9:49 AM

Burbank Overlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5940781)
A Burbank overlook? I had no idea.

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/3949/a...koutpcmuse.jpg
ebay
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...455%2520AM.jpg
google maps

GaylordWilshire Dec 17, 2012 10:50 AM

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1...rham2compl.jpgLos Angeles Times March 8, 1908


More on the Ingraham's extension to Orange/Wilshire.

GaylordWilshire Dec 17, 2012 10:51 AM

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8...stpaul1000.jpgUSCDL


Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5940641)
688 Wilshire Place (1905)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1...133%2520PM.jpg
Ryerson & Bunham Archives, Art Institute of Chicago

I like the entry arch on the left:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...543%2520PM.jpg
Ryerson & Burnham Archives, Art Institute of Chicago


This is not Parkinson's Wilshire Place house. It is the one he built at 600 St. Paul Avenue. Full story here: http://losangeleshistory.blogspot.co...2_archive.html (Full disclosure: I wrote this.)

tovangar2 Dec 17, 2012 11:25 AM

Parkinson's house
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5940912)
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8...stpaul1000.jpgUSCDL

This is not Parkinson's Wilshire Place house. It is the one he built at 600 St. Paul Avenue. Full story here: http://losangeleshistory.blogspot.co...2_archive.html (Full disclosure: I wrote this.)

Thx GW. I didn't question the Art Institute archive info:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L...223%2520AM.jpg

I loved this:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aIfgSCl8c1...1926myREVc.jpg
LAT + http://losangeleshistory.blogspot.co...2_archive.html

tovangar2 Dec 17, 2012 11:41 AM

Ingram Hotel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5940911)
.org"]
More on the Ingraham's extension to Orange/Wilshire.



How does one find these? B/c I want to read this one too:

"Big Works Planned: Mammoth Family Hotel for Orange Street".
Los Angeles Times. 1906-01-07.

GaylordWilshire Dec 17, 2012 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetM (Post 5940728)
And there's a lovely ghost sign for the Reo Speedwagon and the used car dept:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-X...202%2520PM.jpg

I wonder if Reo was there before, after, or concurrently with Hudson. You can still make out "HUDSON" on the street-facing side of the building at the very top.


A little history of Reo at 1200 S Hope:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8461/reocompl.jpgLAT


While the company continued to make trucks (i.e., the Speedwagon), the last REO cars were the '36s Flying Clouds (a model advertised in the ghost sign)...Hudson took over the Hope Street building in 1939: http://home.comcast.net/~sarahdyoung...rsales_ca.html


Another view of the ghost HUDSON sign:
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5594774)
[IMG]
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-e...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle
Fading, fading, but still there....


Lwize Dec 17, 2012 4:07 PM

http://www.trbimg.com/img-50cea024/t...g-20121216/600
(image from LATIMES.COM)

Quote:

U.S. moves ahead on new downtown L.A. courthouse
A $318-million contract is awarded to the architecture firm Skidmore, Owings & Merrill and Clark Construction Group. The new facility will be built at Broadway and 1st Street.

The 550,000-square-foot courthouse will feature a bright, serrated facade and a structural design that allows the cubic courthouse volume to appear to float over its stone base, officials said. (U.S. General Services Administration / December 17, 2012)

By Sam Allen, Los Angeles Times

December 17, 2012, 5:02 a.m.

Downtown Los Angeles is finally getting its new federal courthouse, and it's going to stand out amid the aging government buildings in the Civic Center.

A 550,000-square-foot courthouse — planned for the southwest corner of Broadway and 1st Street, across from the old county law library and the Los Angeles Times building — will feature a bright, serrated facade and a structural design that allow the structure to appear to float over its stone base, officials said.

It will have a public plaza along 1st Street near recently opened Grand Park. Officials say the building's design has received a "platinum" rating for energy efficiency from the U.S. Green Building Council.

The U.S. General Services Administration is moving forward on the project despite last-minute opposition from some Republicans in Congress, who question the viability of the agency's plans to sell the federal courthouse on North Spring Street to private developers. The lawmakers also questioned whether the extra courtrooms were actually necessary.

The GSA awarded a $318-million contract last week to the architecture firm Skidmore, Owings & Merrill and Clark Construction Group, and released several renderings of the proposed design. The building will rise on a 3.6-acre lot on Broadway that city officials have long wanted to develop.

"We are moving toward the groundbreaking of a critically needed facility that will resolve long-standing security and space issues," Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-East Los Angeles) said in a statement. "At a time when we need to keep investing in our recovering economy, we expect the courthouse to create thousands of new jobs in the construction industry and related businesses."

Peter Zellner, faculty member at Southern California Institute of Architecture, noted that the courthouse design in some ways is reminiscent of Mid-Century architectural styles of other Los Angeles government centers, particularly the Wilshire Federal Building. Zellner also suggested the architects consider the courthouse plaza as part of a chain of public spaces spilling down from the Walt Disney Concert Hall.

The courthouse will include 24 courtrooms and 32 judicial chambers. Along with the judges of the U.S. District Court, the building will be used by the U.S. Marshals Service, U.S. attorneys' office and the Federal Public Defender.

Federal judges have been pushing for new space downtown since the late 1990s. In addition to the Spring Street courthouse, federal judges occupy space elsewhere in downtown, but they have complained about overcrowding and security issues.

Construction on the courthouse is expected to begin sometime next year, with completion set for 2016, the GSA said.

The agency also announced that it had released a formal "request for information" to solicit ideas for adaptive reuse of one of the old federal courthouses, on North Spring Street. Under the agency's plan, the 72-year-old building would be sold to a private developer, with the proceeds to help finance construction of a second federal office building next to the new courthouse.

Some real estate experts have questioned whether the exchange proposal would be feasible, saying it could be difficult for a private owner to adapt the old courthouse because of its structural issues, location and historic status. And the Republican critics of the courthouse plan expressed concern that if the GSA could not manage to sell the old courthouse, it would be stuck with a vacant building and higher costs to taxpayers.

There is still no specific timeline on when the exchange would be made, a GSA spokeswoman said, but officials remain upbeat about the plan.

"This step is just another example of GSA's commitment to providing real value to the American public," said acting GSA Administrator Dan Tangherlini.

sam.allen@latimes.com
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,4364584.story

GaylordWilshire Dec 17, 2012 4:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5940926)
How does one find these? B/c I want to read this one too:

"Big Works Planned: Mammoth Family Hotel for Orange Street".
Los Angeles Times. 1906-01-07.


http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4953/ingcomplb.jpgLAT


You can get Times articles through its archives http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/latimes/advancedsearch.html; I have a research portal through the NYU library, which is a couple of blocks away from me.

ethereal_reality Dec 17, 2012 7:38 PM

Burbank man proposes 1,000 foot tower, 1928.

http://imageshack.us/a/img707/6481/aaburbanktower.jpg
ebay

His building looks like it was designed for a miniature golf course.


http://imageshack.us/a/img594/1872/aaburbanktower1r.jpg
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tovangar2 Dec 17, 2012 7:45 PM

Ingraham Hotel
 
Thank you so much GW, LAT's enthusiasm in that era for new buildings is always entertaining. Their lengthy description of the bathroom arrangements was beyond delightful.


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