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CityBoyDoug Mar 3, 2018 3:17 AM

This is the kind of coffee shop food that was popular in the 1940s and '50s.

You can recreate these at home for a nostalgic dinner or lunch.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4...ymenu1950a.jpg
ebay Previously posted years ago by ER.

CityBoyDoug Mar 3, 2018 3:35 AM

https://78.media.tumblr.com/e4f017fc...2kso1_1280.jpg

Junior Olympic athletes Johnny Falcon, Jerry Deal, Rex Heap and Mike Pina in “Los Angeles 1932” uniforms in Los Angeles, Calif., 1929

acorn8332 Mar 3, 2018 5:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality;Engineer Bill even had a record: [COLOR="Green"
Green[/COLOR] Light-Red Light. [ca.1958]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/FtEFJ9.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/QDR86I.jpg


I sort of feel sorry for the lactose intolerant kids :(

I recall some sort of gimmick with the record. Note the "Magic Record" on the sleeve. The grooves were cut in such a way that the listener would only get the Red Light/Green Light game sometimes. Depending upon where the needle dropped, something else would play--although I'm racking my brain as to what that something else could have been.

Anyone remember?

ethereal_reality Mar 3, 2018 5:33 AM

I recently came across some intriguing photographs by Louis Fleckenstein, co-founder & one-time director of the prestigious Camera Pictorialists of Los Angeles.

I wasn't aware of Fleckenstein until this photograph came up in one of my google searches.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/i7hQ3c.jpg
ARTNET

Louis Fleckenstein (American, 1866–1943)

Title: Court house - City Hall - Los Angeles , 1930

Medium: Gelatin Silver Print



Here are a few of Fleckensteins more intriguing efforts.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/Wkuj04.jpg
terpsichorean artists

Artist:
Louis Fleckenstein (American, 1866–1943)

Title:
Terpsichorean artists, ca. 1930–1935

Medium:
silver gelatin prints, mounted




I believe odinthor will like this one (what with the tree and all)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/gJS20y.jpg
terpsichorean artist


Artist:
Louis Fleckenstein (American, 1866–1943)

Title:
Terpsichorean artists, ca. 1930–1935 (artists plural, so there must be someone inside the Joshua tree :shrug:)

Medium:
silver gelatin prints, mounted
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Fleckenstein lived in Eagle Rock (in 1918 at least) with a studio downtown. [730 S. Grand Ave.]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/pSgDyQ.jpg
lapl

The article below mentions that Fleckenstein eventually moved down to Long Beach.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/uSBL3o.jpg
CAMERA MAGAZINE



Which brings me to my first Louis Fleckenstein mystery photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/wcHcSN.jpg
getty collection

Title:
Two Boys in front of Fleckenstein's Studio in Long Beach, CA

Artist/Maker:
Louis Fleckenstein (American, 1866 - 1943)

Date:
1924 - 1943

Medium:
Toned gelatin silver print
____________________

:previous:
I need help in locating Fleckenstein's home dash studio in Long Beach. (as you can see, there's a street number....but no street name)
I'm anxious to see if 'Casa de Estudios' is still above the door. Wouldn't it be great if it was still there.


p.s. There will be more Fleckenstein mystery photographs in the coming days. (in other words...hands off my stash ;))

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odinthor Mar 3, 2018 5:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8106253)
[...]
I believe odinthor will like this one (what with the tree and all)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/gJS20y.jpg
terpsichorean artist


Artist:
Louis Fleckenstein (American, 1866–1943)

Title:
Terpsichorean artists, ca. 1930–1935 (artists plural, so there must be someone inside the Joshua tree :shrug:)

Medium:
silver gelatin prints, mounted
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[...]
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Thanks, e_r: We botanical dudes know that them Joshua Trees git awful lonely out in the desert. Awful lonely . . . :runaway:

Lomara Mar 3, 2018 7:20 AM

Casa de Estudios found
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8106253)
Which brings me to my first Louis Fleckenstein mystery photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/wcHcSN.jpg
getty collection

Title:
Two Boys in front of Fleckenstein's Studio in Long Beach, CA

Artist/Maker:
Louis Fleckenstein (American, 1866 - 1943)

Date:
1924 - 1943

Medium:
Toned gelatin silver print
____________________

:previous:
I need help in locating Fleckenstein's home dash studio in Long Beach. (as you can see, there's a street number....but no street name)
I'm anxious to see if 'Casa de Estudios' is still above the door. Wouldn't it be great if it was still there.


p.s. There will be more Fleckenstein mystery photographs in the coming days. (in other words...hands off my stash ;))

_

After 10 seconds on Google, I found Casa de estudios at 1510 E. 3rd Street, Long Beach. I'm surprised how quickly I found it. It still carries the tile above the doorway

Found here: https://www.redfin.com/CA/Long-Beach...2/home/7618429

It's too bad the real estate agent's camera lens was smeared with vaseline, because this is an interesting property:
(from the listing on Redfin)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4670/...b399fed1_o.png
Casa De Estudios by Kimberly, on Flickr

Redfin shows us it was built in 1926, has 8 units, with underground parking, and was recently sold in 2015 for $1.4m.

The googlemobile didn't get a clear image of the front door. This was the best I could do.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4624/...7121041e_c.jpg
Casa De Estudios by Kimberly, on Flickr

Scott Charles Mar 3, 2018 8:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8106088)
Your posts have been a breath of fresh air Scott Charles. Pleeeeeeaze keep contributing.

Thanks, ER! :pepper: It's nice to feel welcome!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8106088)
I’ve made abysmal mistakes (and some silly ones too) Early in the thread I wrote that I could see an airplane’s entrails in the sky of an old photograph. GW pointed out, rather gleefully, that I must have meant contrails.

:D

Okay then, allow me to use this as an excuse to comment on some of my favorite posts in this thread, ones that stir personal memories:

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This post of yours, ER, about the Stardust Ballroom. I went there in the late 80s to see a live show. The band performing was Einstürzende Neubauten, which in German means “tearing down new buildings” - an idea I’d bet that many here would like to take literally!

Lead singer Blixa Bargeld began the show by walking out holding a jerry can style gasoline can, which he then emptied all over the stage. Then he lit a match. As people started shifting uncomfortably and eyeing the exits, Blixa tossed the match down into the puddle and yelled out "It's WATER!" Then the band erupted into their first song.

For decades I’ve thought of that venue, but had no way of finding any information about it - I didn’t remember the name of the venue, and nobody I knew even remembered the place. I couldn't believe it when I found it in this thread!

I guess the place finally shut down in 1989. It sure wasn't in very good shape when I was there.

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Any pictures of the old CBS Columbia Square building at 5121 Sunset Blvd. My mom worked at CBS for 34 years, and I spent countless hours in that building, since the time I was five until I was maybe 20. I was a real quiet, polite kid, so nobody minded it when my mother brought me in with her. I still remember everyone’s names there, including a 25 year-old Keith Olbermann (I know he's a polarizing figure, but he was always extremely nice to my mom and I).

My mom told me that some time in the 60s, the Rolling Stones did some kind of recording in the building, on the fourth floor (which was where the audio studios were - my mom worked on the third floor... the TV news studios were on the first floor... TV shows were filmed at a different location, over at "TV City" on Beverly).

The walls on the fourth floor were carpeted at the time (groovy, man)... and the Stones peed on them. The Vice President and General Manager of KNX (CBS radio) George Nicolaw was furious. Everything had to be torn out and replaced, and the Stones were forever banned from the building.

All these decades later, I can still remember my mom's phone number at CBS - area code 213, 460-3350, extension 350. Nowadays, with cellphones, I don't remember anybody's phone number. Remember how we used to memorize all of our friend's phone numbers by heart?

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Or this post by HossC - my first real job was working at that exact Standard Shoes store, I was 15 or 16. Of course, the decor was a lot less psychedelic by the time I was working there, but other than the colors, it was absolutely identical to those photos. Seeing those photos was a real flashback!

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Or this other post by HossC - I used to be a regular at the Dresden, as well as at the Onyx coffee house (1802 N. Vermont), so it was quite a thrill to see what those places looked like back in the 1950s.

I knew the Dresden's original owner, Carl Ferraro, and have been seeing Marty and Elayne perform since the early 90s. I still know people there, in fact I just got a text message from one of them who's working there right now.

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So yeah, it's been great rekindling all these old memories in this thread - and that's in addition to the subject matter of the thread, old LA buildings, one of my greatest interests! So thanks once again, ER, for giving us all a place to reminisce about old time LA!

BillinGlendaleCA Mar 3, 2018 8:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8106058)
Do you mean, specifically, 3301 Waverly Drive?

Turns out that I've taken quite a few pictures of that house.

BillinGlendaleCA Mar 3, 2018 8:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8089383)

https://i.imgur.com/MBmtYZY.jpg

This restaurant was apparently owned by my great-grandmother. I do not know her first name, but Her name was Emma and our family name is Diltz. It was called the Auto Wheel Cafe, and she supposedly bought it some time in the 1920s.

Scott, I've kind of held off commenting on this picture because I didn't have much to add; but I grew up in Thousand Oaks(1960-1978) and that building looks familiar but I can't place it. Admittily there's about 30 years from when that picture was taken and when I'd have seen(and be able to remember) it. You mentioned in later posts that your family worked in the entertainment industry...there was a great deal of filming in the Conejo Valley before it became urbanized in the early 1970's and there was Jungleland!

Otis Criblecoblis Mar 3, 2018 9:26 AM

Happy Happy Joy Joy!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8106296)

Or this other post by HossC - I used to be a regular at the Dresden, as well as at the Onyx coffee house (1802 N. Vermont), so it was quite a thrill to see what those places looked like back in the 1950s.

I knew the Dresden's original owner, Carl Ferraro, and have been seeing Marty and Elayne perform since the early 90s. I still know people there, in fact I just got a text message from one of them who's working there right now.

I am so jazzed to learn that the Dresden Room is still open, and that Marty and Elayne are still there! I just assumed that, as with pretty much every other important local hangout of my youth, it was long gone.

I have actually sung with Marty and Elayne several times; it was some of the most fun I've ever had in front of an audience.

I am definitely going there soon with my wife. If it's a Tuesday, maybe I'll even sing!

Slauson Slim Mar 3, 2018 4:22 PM

Maybe the People Would Be the Times or Between Clark and Hilldale

Video Link

Slauson Slim Mar 3, 2018 4:25 PM

Gandy Dancers

Video Link

AlvaroLegido Mar 3, 2018 6:26 PM

Temple & Hill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8106253)

I wasn't aware of Fleckenstein until this photograph came up in one of my google searches.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/i7hQ3c.jpg
ARTNET
Louis Fleckenstein (American, 1866–1943)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3364/...35258a89_o.jpg

About 20 years later on a rear projection... I like this only two stories long building standing among the elevated.

Martin Pal Mar 3, 2018 6:36 PM

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A few unsolicited comments: :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8106176)
This is the kind of coffee shop food that was popular in the 1940s and '50s.
You can recreate these at home for a nostalgic dinner or lunch.

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The "Spaghetti Derby" is what Lucy orders in the famous "L.A. at Last" episode when they eat at the Brown Derby. (Although Lucy only says "I'll have the spaghetti," but she emphasizes wanting lots of "meat sauce." And, or course, Fred explains what a "Derby Salad" is.)


Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8106187)
https://78.media.tumblr.com/e4f017fc...2kso1_1280.jpg

Junior Olympic athletes Johnny Falcon, Jerry Deal, Rex Heap and Mike Pina in “Los Angeles 1932” uniforms in Los Angeles, Calif., 1929
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These sound like "porn star" names! (In a good way, of course.)


Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8106303)
Scott...You mentioned in later posts that your family worked in the entertainment industry...
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8104986)
https://silentlocations.wordpress.co...-chase-part-2/
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Scott, in this article link you provided (directly above) in a recent post, you had responded on it with a post talking about your family history and such, and I thought it was quite interesting and was fascinated to read it! And, yes, I've been enjoying your posts here on NLA.

Krell58 Mar 3, 2018 7:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8106058)
Do you mean, specifically, 3301 Waverly Drive?

The morning after / Aug 11, 1969
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/bZ6Cci.jpg
LaBianca

Exactly, e_r!

Lwize Mar 4, 2018 2:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slauson Slim (Post 8106444)
Maybe the People Would Be the Times or Between Clark and Hilldale

Video Link

The Whisky A Go-Go is between Clark & Hilldale. Love used to play there.

They helped another local LA band get their first recording contract. Ever hear of The Doors? :)

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20170510212910

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20170510212910)

acorn8332 Mar 4, 2018 4:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slauson Slim (Post 8106444)
Maybe the People Would Be the Times or Between Clark and Hilldale

Video Link

This image immediately came to mind. An unused poster art concept for the Universal Pictures film "Somewhere in Time." The movie was released in 1980; maybe the proposed image looked too 60s-ish.

From the Facebook group "Somewhere in Time." Image courtesy Bill Shepard

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...7a&oe=5B3CA16D

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4625/...33051ca0_c.jpg

Scott Charles Mar 4, 2018 5:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8106303)
Scott, I've kind of held off commenting on this picture because I didn't have much to add; but I grew up in Thousand Oaks(1960-1978) and that building looks familiar but I can't place it. Admittily there's about 30 years from when that picture was taken and when I'd have seen(and be able to remember) it. You mentioned in later posts that your family worked in the entertainment industry...there was a great deal of filming in the Conejo Valley before it became urbanized in the early 1970's and there was Jungleland!

Interesting, Bill!

All I know of the place is that my great-grandmother bought it "in the 20s", and that (judging by the age of my dad) the photo I have appears to be from the mid-30s - I wonder if the structure survived until the 60s-70s?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 8106304)
I am so jazzed to learn that the Dresden Room is still open, and that Marty and Elayne are still there! I just assumed that, as with pretty much every other important local hangout of my youth, it was long gone.

I have actually sung with Marty and Elayne several times; it was some of the most fun I've ever had in front of an audience.

I am definitely going there soon with my wife. If it's a Tuesday, maybe I'll even sing!

You'll have fun! It can get really crowded, but not always: my bartender buddy told me it was dead last night (which is pretty unusual for a Friday night).

I hope Marty and Elayne stay there as long as they can - the place wouldn't be the same without them.

By the way, at what time was the Dresden one of your hangouts? The period when I spent my most time there was between 1992 and 1999. Do you remember any of your bartenders' names?

Scott Charles Mar 4, 2018 5:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8106539)
Scott, in this article link you provided (directly above) in a recent post, you had responded on it with a post talking about your family history and such, and I thought it was quite interesting and was fascinated to read it! And, yes, I've been enjoying your posts here on NLA.

Thanks, Martin, and I'm glad you found my post interesting!

After that post I corresponded with John Bengtson by email, and he was able to provide me with some information that helped me find a few pictures of my grandmother and grandfather which I'd never seen before.

Many of you already know that John has written some truly fascinating books about the locations in LA where the movies of Chaplin, Keaton, and Lloyd were shot - I'd imagine most of the people in this thread would really enjoy reading his books, which are positively stuffed with photos with photos of 1920s Los Angeles. I don't mean to come across as a shill, I just really love his books, and reading them was one of the things that brought me to this thread when I started Googling some of the locations he writes about.

I haven't posted much about my family's silent movie history here because, though the time period is correct, it has nothing to do with architecture. That said, I trust it won't cause too much trouble if I post just one studio photo of my grandmother...

https://i.imgur.com/zsBTEl0.jpg

That's grandma Elva as a Mack Sennett Bathing Beauty, seen with Keystone Teddy, the Sennett dog, and star in his own right.

Some Teddy links:

http://normanstudios.org/blog/2017/0...s-best-friend/
https://ladailymirror.com/2015/07/06...s-best-friend/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_(dog)

BillinGlendaleCA Mar 4, 2018 7:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8106985)
Interesting, Bill!

All I know of the place is that my great-grandmother bought it "in the 20s", and that (judging by the age of my dad) the photo I have appears to be from the mid-30s - I wonder if the structure survived until the 60s-70s?

It's quite possible, TO really didn't see much development until the early 60's and quite a few of the old buildings were still there in the 60's and early 70's. Because it was so rural and the City of Thousand Oaks didn't exist until 1964, the resources that we usually rely on here may not exist.


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