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Andys Apr 24, 2014 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 6552385)
So we make it back to Pasadena and I want to see Christmas Tree Lane...we try to follow the signs but its sorta hard in the daylight to find it. we get to the end of a street and find this huge fancy gate, I wish i knew weather we were in Altadena or Pasadena so i could pin point the former mansion.

[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps63293766.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps355b6db4.jpg[/IMG]
from what we gathered,at one time it was a mansion,now its a park...anyways it was getting late and low and behold a few blocks away was Christmas Tree Lane....
That was a great day..maybe you can add more info on the trucks wig-wag and i know someone knows more about the mansion...and last but not least this is the Picfair!

That would be the entrance to the Cobb Estate (ruins) built in 1918 by lumber magnate Charles H. Cobb. http://thenativelatourist.com/2011/0...s-cobb-estate/ This is also the entrance to the trailhead to Echo Mountain and the Mount Lowe Railway. I've hiked this area a few times; lots of history. It is located at the end of Lake Avenue in Altadena.

Andys

HossC Apr 24, 2014 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6549887)

transit slide 1956.

pan right to see the green pickup truck...it's very cool.-------->:) Was it owned by the railway?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/834/w3v7.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...0/834/32tj.jpgebay

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 6550002)

ER, this photo was taken at the former Los Angeles Railway 12th and Georgia Street carbarn sometime after the acquisition of LARY by National City lines in 1947. National City Lines renamed the former LARY, Los Angeles Transit Lines and the PCC type streetcars in picture carry the NCL/LATL logo and corporate paint scheme. The truck looks to be a 1949 Chevy but it is not carrying the LATL logo and the resolution of the photo is not quite high enough to make out the lettering on the cab.

Here's what the Herald Express trucks looked like in 1960. The picture shows a couple of their circulation drivers receiving safety awards.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...essPickup2.jpg
LAPL

Pictures of the Herald Express building on Georgia Street seem a bit thin on the ground. This one is dated January 8, 1947. The caption reads, "Firemen are shown pouring streams of water onto the broken gas main in a desperate effort to prevent the escaping gas from exploding."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...giaStreet1.jpg
LAPL

And this one shows the same incident looking south towards Pico. The streetcar barn is off to the right.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...giaStreet2.jpg
LAPL

Speaking of the streetcar barn, the caption for this 1946 picture describes it as "nearly empty (before the strike)". LAPL also has a follow-up "Today" picture showing the barn nearly full, but it's covered in lines and arrows for cropping the photo.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...giaStreet3.jpg
LAPL

I came close to this area when I identified the Dorothy Apartments in post #20619. Here's another close-up from the same aerial view I used in that post. It looks like the streetcar barn has had its tracks replaced with tarmac and is being used as a parking lot for buses.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...giaStreet4.jpg
Detail of picture at USC Digital Library

To show how the area has changed, this aerial is from 1948.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...arBarn1948.jpg
Historic Aerials

The Convention Center now sits squarely on the old streetcar barn. I've kept the original street locations on this 2004 aerial.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...arBarn2004.jpg
Historic Aerials

HossC Apr 24, 2014 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6552458)

House ID

Have we seen this house here before? I might be thinking of another house. But can anyone ID this one? Seems to be the hills-- Hollywood? Los Feliz? Another one in Altadena/Pasadena? These are screenshots from "Standing Pat"--made in 1928 with three actors called "A Ton of Fun": Hilliard Karr, Frank Alexander and "Kewpie" Ross.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-s...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S...2520PM.bmp.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q...2520PM.bmp.jpg

It's just north of Los Feliz Boulevard on the corner of Glendower and Cromwell Avenues.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Google Maps

The screengrab below is from the CHiPs episode 'Name Your Price' (S01E11). It was also used in a later episode called 'Flare Up' (S05E20).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Rosner TV/MGM TV

ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2014 12:10 AM

:previous: Damn you're good HossC. really really really good.


looking west from Bagley Avenue. (the Santa Monica Freeway is up the hill at right)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/s8q9.jpg
Terry Guy at https://www.flickr.com/photos/terryviews



the same view today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/845/l0jm.jpg
GSV

Does anyone know what's planned for this strip of land? and who owns it?
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ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2014 12:27 AM

arf! arf! is this an early version of a dog whisperer?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/835/fk23.jpg
ebay




11927 Montana Avenue
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/834/zgsz.jpg
GSV

The dogs are long gone, but the charming little building survives.
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GaylordWilshire Apr 25, 2014 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6552549)
It's just north of Los Feliz Boulevard on the corner of Glendower and Cromwell Avenues.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
Google Maps

The screengrab below is from the CHiPs episode 'Name Your Price' (S01E11). It was also used in a later episode called 'Flare Up' (S05E20).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
Rosner TV/MGM TV


Fantastic, HossC--thank you so much.

Here's a little histor:

http://i.imgur.com/2UA7ml8.jpg?1?2412

From the Los Feliz Imporvement Association:http://lfia.org/

unihikid Apr 25, 2014 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys (Post 6552496)
That would be the entrance to the Cobb Estate (ruins) built in 1918 by lumber magnate Charles H. Cobb. http://thenativelatourist.com/2011/0...s-cobb-estate/ This is also the entrance to the trailhead to Echo Mountain and the Mount Lowe Railway. I've hiked this area a few times; lots of history. It is located at the end of Lake Avenue in Altadena.

Andys

Thanks Andys I didnt even know the Mt Lowe entrance was that close.

C. King Apr 25, 2014 1:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6552592)
:previous: Damn you're good HossC. really really really good.


looking west from Bagley Avenue. (the Santa Monica Freeway is up the hill at right)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/838/s8q9.jpg
Terry Guy at https://www.flickr.com/photos/terryviews



the same view today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/845/l0jm.jpg
GSV

Does anyone know what's planned for this strip of land? and who owns it?
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The MTA (Metro) is extending the Expo Line from Downtown Culver City to Santa Monica. Here is the link.

http://www.metro.net/projects/expo-santa-monica/

HossC Apr 25, 2014 1:42 AM

After seeing e_r's earlier post with pictures of the Los Angeles City Market in 1910, I had a look for pictures of 9th and San Pedro. What I found was the 9th and San Pedro Branch of the Pacific Southwest Bank in 1924.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...hSanPedro1.jpg
USC Digital Library

I'm guessing that this picture shows the bank's staff (the description doesn't say).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...hSanPedro2.jpg
USC Digital Library

Here's the interior.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...hSanPedro3.jpg
USC Digital Library

We have another survivor. I wonder if that description applies to the interior.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...hSanPedro4.jpg
GSV

Wig-Wag Apr 25, 2014 1:48 AM

[QUOTE=HossC;6552549]It's just north of Los Feliz Boulevard on the corner of Glendower and Cromwell Avenues.

Nice work on both locations and subjects, HossC!

Cheers,
Jack

westcork Apr 25, 2014 4:03 AM

Best post ever!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6551170)


Flyingwedge Apr 25, 2014 8:20 AM

An old Playa del Rey home
 
Blogger Cal Porter grew up in Surfridge in a house at Rindge and Epinard that has been lost to LAX. He posted this photo on his blog:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...2.jpg~original
Cal Porter's Then and Now -- http://www.localbeachhotels.com/defa...r1=View&var2=1

Since Rindge runs near the top of the dunes parallel to and east of Vista Del Mar, I figured "below us on Vista Del Mar" meant at or near VDM and Epinard.
I never saw the Dr. Boyce house in another photo, so I guessed that it had been replaced before all the houses in that area were taken out.

Then I saw this c. 1924 photo of Playa del Rey beach. The house above the dark tent I recognized as the still-standing ex-Fritz Burns house at 200 Waterview.
But the house to its left also looked familiar, like it might be the Dr. Boyce house (look at the guy peeking out of the black tent!):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original
USCDL -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/2997/rec/16

Then I did a bit of triangulating and figured that the house to the left of the Burns house in the c. 1924 photo is at 7324 Vista Del Mar Lane (originally
just Vista Del Mar); below, it and 200 Waterview are marked with crude arrows. (Rindge is above Vista Del Mar Lane; Epinard was several blocks south):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...f.jpg~original
Bing

A balcony and patio have been enclosed, and the two narrow garage doors have become one wider door, but 7324 Vista Del Mar Lane is the old Dr. Boyce
house. The LA County Assessor indicates the house was originally built in 1925 (and has not changed hands since 1978):
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...a.jpg~original
GSV

P.S. Great work HossC and GW on your recent house IDs!

Tourmaline Apr 25, 2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6552417)

The caption on this photograph was Wallace Beery at his Silver Lake retreat.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/845/3dcs.jpg
http://acertaincinema.com/

Is this Silver Lake in Los Angeles proper, or another Silver Lake up in the mountains somewhere?
He looks like he could be a hundred miles from downtown.
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Graybeard's post which seems on target. The coveralls worn by the photo's subject are reminiscent of a flying suit. Same with possible headgear and goggles. Garb could also be for warm-weather skiing, but Wallace was known for taking to the sky in his own planes.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qB_dIrLWN4...he2mgvaq6g.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qB_dIrLWN4...he2mgvaq6g.jpg

http://www.ci.glendale.ca.us/gcatg/i...lace_beery.jpghttp://www.ci.glendale.ca.us/gcatg/i...lace_beery.jpg


Wonder if photo wasn't part of a publicity campaign? Good workout when the boat is tethered.
Other idyllic shots:

http://acertaincinema.com/wp-content...ry-retreat.jpghttp://acertaincinema.com/wp-content...ry-retreat.jpg

http://acertaincinema.com/wp-content...ke-cottage.jpghttp://acertaincinema.com/wp-content...ke-cottage.jpg

More on Wallace's homes here:http://stevesomething.wordpress.com/...rs-the-beerys/




Wallace, had an older look-alike brother, Noah. Noah apparently had a "trout club" somewhere north of LA toward Saugus. See "A-4" on map. http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...postcount=9512

Wallace Berry
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qB_dIrLWN4...llacebeery.jpghttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qB_dIrLWN4...llacebeery.jpg

Noah Berry
http://www.silentsaregolden.com/photos/noahbeery.jpghttp://www.silentsaregolden.com/photos/noahbeery.jpg

And of course, how can one mention Noah, without mentioning Noah Jr?
http://www.bellazon.com/main/uploads...1287940220.jpghttp://www.bellazon.com/main/uploads...1287940220.jpg

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Bet there were innumerable lakes dubbed "Silver."

Amador County
http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...ANMK86JUL5.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...ANMK86JUL5.jpg

Tourmaline Apr 25, 2014 12:46 PM

:previous: Nice find GW (4032 Wilshire)


Another "amazing" discovery? After a harrowing civil defense demonstration - try Maxwell House. The dangers of acid reflux? Ties and protective eye wear optional.

March 12, 1953
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/54596/rec/6

JoeW Apr 25, 2014 3:19 PM

Silver Lake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graybeard (Post 6552481)
He lived on an island on Silver Lake near Yosemite National Park.

This is Silver Lake in the Sierra's June Lake loop, Silver lake has an island aptly named Wallace Berry Island. (Location of the the respective photo showing Wallace Berry)

ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2014 4:59 PM

I didn't know Wallace Beery was a pilot, and I didn't know there was a Wallace Beery Island. -interesting

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originally posted by Tourmaline
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/845/zzdw.jpg
March 12, 1953

I couldn't help but notice the old Hotel Northern in the background.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/834/ae8b.jpg
http://www.onbunkerhill.org/

The hotel opened on Jan. 13, 1913 at 420 W. 2nd Street. (at Clay Street)
It featured 10 floors, 200 rooms with baths.

Using this as a reference:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/842/jgj4.jpg
http://www.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal8.html

Where was the civil defense man demonstrating his extinguisher in Tourmaline's 1953 photo?

Here perhaps?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/1uu2.jpg
http://www.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal8.html
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This was an excellent discovery flyingwedge! Good job.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/sozs8.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/845/mdby.jpg
originally posted by Flyingwedge


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HossC Apr 25, 2014 6:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6553446)

originally posted by Tourmaline
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/845/zzdw.jpg
March 12, 1953

Where was the civil defense man demonstrating his extinguisher in Tourmaline's 1953 photo?

He was next to the Fashion League Building (formerly the Union League Building). The picture below is dated 12/20/56. The Huntington Digital Library also has several pictures showing its demolition in early '57.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...e.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library

This picture is dated 6/25/69. The sad description just says "The Northern Hotel now vacant and ready for wreckers."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...l.jpg~original
Huntington Digital Library

ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2014 6:38 PM

:previous: Oh my, what a couple of great color photos HossC. I especially like the last one...it's so melancholy.
Thanks for figuring out the location.



This is very intriguing.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/835/torv.jpg
ebay


reverse
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/841/mjq8.jpg

So the building they're loading the scrips from would be a printing company. (I'm a little confused)
Anyone recognize the writing above the door? -also, notice the missing bricks..what gives?



I wasn't able to find a 1933 Los Angeles Clearing House Certificate, but here's one from 1907.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/834/q5ic.jpg
http://auction.archivesinternational...Note_i16209324

So how does a Clearing House Certificate work? Why use this instead of money...what's gained from doing so?

...sooo many questions.
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Martin Pal Apr 25, 2014 7:07 PM

The NBC Studios on Sunset & Vine, as well as the Sunset & Vine area, has been featured in many posts on NLA.

http://www.radiocityhollywood.com/wp...%201_thumb.jpg

I know this photo of the lobby mural has been posted before:

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics06/00012858.jpgLAPL

I have also mentioned before that I’ve been looking for a color photo of the mural and, so far, no luck. It was painted by Ed Trumbull, while in his fifties, and it appears he painted many other murals in public buildings in San Francisco, Chicago and Philadelphia, among others, including the mural on the ceiling of the iconic Chrysler Building in New York City. (It was painted on canvas and cemented to the ceiling!) There’s also many photos of the murals, in color, too. That’s probably due to the fact that they are all still around. But, in my opinion, in the twenty-five year existence of the NBC Building, someone must have taken a photograph of this mural in color!

It dawned on me the other day that I have seen very few photos of this mural at all besides the one above. There’s more photos of Elizabeth Short, even one posted by E_R in front of this building! (Perhaps tourists or visitors were not allowed to take photos in the lobby?) I also have not discovered much at all written about this mural. (Does it have a name/title?) His other murals all have names and I haven’t even come across that bit of information about this one. I’ve even begun to wonder if the mural was painted in color at all, which might be why no one thought of taking a color photo of it. Perhaps?

Does anyone have any ideas where I could research this further, as I seem to run into a lot of brick walls while doing so. I admit feeling like I must be doing something wrong to keep being thwarted in this endeavor. Maybe NBC feels guilty for having destroyed this beautiful building and it’s lobby mural and has tried erasing it’s legacy, heh!

Although I looked up many many posts on NLA, I don’t pretend that the following photos of the building have not been posted here before. They’re all a little different than the head-on or corner views, so I thought I’d post them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5981669)
Herman Schultheis, a frequently cited photographer here...

BifRayRock posted a photo of Herman Schultheis, himself, with his favorite beverage! He seems to have had a rather playful personality. I found one of him by his car in front of the NBC building and judging by his jacket he had a colorful wardrobe as well!

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101615.jpgLAPL
Vine Street view c. 1939

I’m guessing his jacket was orange hot pink stripes, perhaps?

And another showing more of NBC:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101616.jpgLAPL

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8357/...c5653bf7_z.jpg
Alan Mays

Here’s a photo from Nick Faitos who says:
Frances, my grandmother (L), and her friend Sarah are posing in the front of Radio City. Nattily dressed and carefully coiffed, the two of them have just attended a live broadcast of Tom Breneman's "Breakfast in Hollywood" program across Vine, and have come over to see about tickets to "This Is Your Life."
https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6171/...f1c17733_b.jpgNick Faitos/Flickr

Here’s the building looking west from Sunset Boulevard and Argyle Avenue (c. 1942):

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00104/00104587.jpgLAPL

Here’s a photo at the corner edge of NBC looking northwest up Vine Street. The shops in the center across the street from left to right include: part of the Tropics restaurant, the Globe Investment Company (1529 Vine Street), the Health Spot Shoe Shop (1531 Vine Street), the Travelknit Shop (1533 Vine Street), Ambassador Florists Inc. (1535 Vine Street) and the Hollywood Recreation Center Bowling Alley (1539 Vine Street). (c.1939):

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101426.jpgLAPL

Here’s a look down the rest of Vine to Sunset, starting from the “parking sign” in the photo above. You can see the full “Tropics” on Vine across the street:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101428.jpgLAPL

Some other angular views around the NBC Building, all LAPL:

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101427.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101435.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101436.jpg

Looking west toward Columbia Square:
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101425.jpg


Here are two photos of World War 2 servicemen sitting on the curved section of the NBC entrance at Sunset & Vine:

http://davelandweb.com/hollywood/ima...anteen_N30.jpg
http://davelandblog.blogspot.com/201...d-canteen.html

This soldier might be looking at an admission ticket to one of the shows:

http://davelandweb.com/hollywood/ima...anteen_N31.jpg
http://davelandblog.blogspot.com/201...d-canteen.html

And…this is listed as a 1950’s Atkin’s Travel Slide:
http://galleryplus.ebayimg.com/ws/we.../1000x1000.jpgeBay

PREVIOUS NBC Building/Sunset and Vine posts - I believe none of the NBC photos I posted are included in these posts, except the lobby mural:

From ER - a noirish nighttime view / postcard-day
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=228

gsjansen – the lobby model, construction, mural, assorted views, destruction:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1498

ER: contains outside side shots/inside lobby photo (some missing):
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1500
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1501

gsjansen – contains demolition
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4118

gsjansen – contains color shots of Hollywood including NBC:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4302

HandsomeStranger - contains color slides
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=4398

BifRayRoc - contains construction / soundstage/ aerial south side/ postcard/ demolition:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9607

ER – contains E. Short at NBC
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=16163

HossC – contains color aerial of Cinerama Dome construction with NBC Building in view:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17644

HossC – contains north side aerial
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17930

CityBoyDoug Apr 25, 2014 7:44 PM

Looking for color photos....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6553634)
The NBC Studios on Sunset & Vine, as well as the Sunset & Vine area, has been featured in many posts on NLA.
I know this photo of the lobby mural has been posted before:

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics06/00012858.jpgLAPL

I have also mentioned before that I’ve been looking for a color photo of the mural and, so far, no luck. It was painted by Ed Trumbull, while in his fifties, and it appears he painted many other murals in public buildings in San Francisco, Chicago and Philadelphia, among others, including the mural on the ceiling of the iconic Chrysler Building in New York City. (It was painted on canvas and cemented to the ceiling!) There’s also many photos of the murals, in color, too. That’s probably due to the fact that they are all still around. But, in my opinion, in the twenty-five year existence of the NBC Building, someone must have taken a photograph of this mural in color!


Edward Trumbull, American artist (1884 - 1968)

Edward Trumbull was born in Michigan and raised in Connecticut. He attended the Art Students’ League of New York and studied in London under the noted muralist, Frank Brangwyn. Trumbull’s style as a muralist was traditional, and he was best known for his ease of bright and varied colors. A long time resident of Pittsburgh, Trumbull painted panels for the Heinz Administration Building in Pittsburgh and used “The Three Rivers” that converge at the city as the theme for the ceiling of the lobby of the Chrysler Building in New York. Two of his murals, located in the South Office building of the Pennsylvania Capitol Complex, are smaller versions of the murals he painted for buildings in Pittsburgh.


Ed Trumbull on the left....1911. [Frank Brangwyn, artist, on the right.]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps9f927593.jpg
Rogallery


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