Spaghetti Junctions: Extensive Highway Interchanges
Spaghetti Junctions: Extensive Highway Interchanges
I am surprised there is no forum yet on this topic (I couldn't find one). Here is one that I recently visited in Shanghai, Puxi side (not my photos): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...C_Shanghai.jpghttp://www.inautonews.com/wp-content...nal1-m5ehi.jpghttp://www.inautonews.com/wp-content..._shanghai3.jpg wikimedia commons; inautonews.com This scary bastard (Tom Moreland Interchange) in Atlanta: http://roclar.net/RP/AtlantaSpaghettiJunction.jpg roclar.net On google maps: http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&...,0.009978&z=17 The High-Five of Dallas: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-High_Five.jpg wikimedia commons The Judge Harry Pregerson Monster of Los Angeles: http://img.desktopwallpapers.ru/worl...05ef5-1600.jpg desktopwallpapers.ru The Basketweave, on the 401, Toronto: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...weave_Crop.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...tweave.svg.png wikimedia commons |
The turcot interchange in Montreal (under reconstruction):
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7YFMAsf5he...0/turcotte.jpg c/o Richard at the Eco-Senior |
The one you showed in L.A.'s definitely one of the worst, MolsonExport. There are numerous ones in the L.A. area that are insanely complicated. Some of the ones in Houston and Dallas are crazy as well. And that stretch of the 401, well, I'll get to experience that one this coming weekend, especially since that photo is only a few kilometers from my aunt's place! :)
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Quite a view from the air. |
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Biggest in the DC area is the Springfield Interchange, which includes both of these. It's 24 lanes in the space between them. The construction you see is the addition of HOT lanes to the Beltway, which will add even more ramps to the left one.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8448/7...433b1fd9_b.jpg |
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chicago's largest is the circle interchange where the dan ryan/kennedy intersects with the ike, just southwest of downtown, but it's an outmoded design from the 60s that has notorious back-ups. i've heard that it's the worst interchange in the nation in terms of back-ups.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ge_Chicago.jpg source: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ge_Chicago.jpg milwaukee has a 5 level interchange, the recently re-opened marquette interchange, just south west of downtown. http://www.hntb.com/sites/default/fi...I_2009_072.jpg source: http://www.hntb.com/sites/default/fi...I_2009_072.jpg |
Miami has the Golden Glades. The intersection of I-95, Palmetto Expressway, US441 (surface) and SR9 (surface), It's not that impressive looking but it is hell to navigate. It's the only interchange I've seen where you have to exit onto surface roads, including a stop light, to get from one highway to another.'
But it also has a great view of Miami's skylines from atope the HOV lane which flys over the whole thing. http://www.crte.org/images/freeways/08-ggx.jpg |
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East St Louis is building a new one for the new bridge, with this one just a few miles away.
http://www.skylinescenes.com/gallery...line_98932.jpg |
I'm always fascinated by these things. BTW, I can see the house my mother grew up in and her high school (Robert E. Lee) in this pic.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8448/7...433b1fd9_b.jpg |
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But it's worth pointing out that the interchange actually has a very small footprint in the scheme of things. I'm anxious to see what happens when they eventually rebuild it. |
Shanghai has a bunch of these, but the largest is probably the Xinzhuang Interchange in south Shanghai. It has 4 freeways (S4 - bottom right, S20 - top centre - centre right, G60 - centre left, Humin Elevated Road - top right) plus surface streets, and passes over both intercity and metro rail.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg69/...pg&res=landing |
Though not exactly a highway interchange, I've always found Toronto's Pearson Airport to be an impressive example of spaghetti manglery:
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=...13164&t=k&z=17 |
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Man I've always loved these.
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Gah, I've been through that interchange with The Connector and I 20 a few times coming from Birmingham. I hate that thing...
Huntsville has one (I-565/US 231/US 431 plus Washington St, Jefferson St, and Oakwood Ave) that's about 3 to 4 miles long. It's more of a slender spaghetti, but it's no less confusing and ineffective (despite it's more recent construction). |
I respect how Chicago generally has undersized expressway infrastructure-with some notable exceptions-in a city with otherwise massive infrastructure. If Chicago was in the sunbelt, the Circle would probably be the largest spaghetti clusterfuck east of California, or worse.
Of course, I've been stuck in fubar circle induced traffic ...mental convulsions. |
Some of these things are unbelievably huge. Nothing mammoth in my city. I think Pittsburgh must have some of the smallest parkways around the city core for any city its size. 4 lanes from the airport to downtown!
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I despise each and every one of these. Disgusting blights on the landscape.
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I-17/I-10 interchange west/northwest of Downtown Phoenix, aka "The Stack"
http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...a-79364155.jpg Source The I-10/AZ 51/AZ 202 "Mini Stack." This one's even more complicated than The Stack, IMO: http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...a-82854472.jpg Source |
milwaukee's is surprisingly large for the size of the metro.
@tredici: yes, the 20/75-85 interchange is fucking terrible. considering it's size, atlanta should probably have more than just one stack interchange, 285/85. the mother city of stack interchanges: |
I assume Chicago's Circle, if rebuilt, will probably resemble the Shanghainese compact stack shown in the thread's first picture, probably with a distortion to allow faster speeds and wider turns on the Eisenhower-Dan Ryan ramps.
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The one is Shanghai is awe inspiring, the one in Dallas (High Five) is probably the cleanest and most elegant spaghetti junction I have seen while the huge on in LA is probably the most depressing looking of the bunch. Don't know why but it has always looked sad to me.
As for Canada, outside of the one in Montreal (which is being replaced) Canada does not really have spaghetti junctions. Metro Toronto and other areas do have impressive interchanges, but none of them to the scale of the High Five or other such spaghetti junctions show. Metro-Vancouver really has nothing to show currently, outside of the semi-large 99/91/Knight Street interchanges in Richmond. That being said, this beast is currently u/c and will be complete next year: The new Cape Horn http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5059/5...b38f407e_b.jpg http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2699/4...bc895040_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/30634635@N03/ |
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Maybe some kind of giant loop would be better with spinoff routes.
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the Turcot Interchange of Montreal. Less impressive now that most of the rail lines have been removed (passing over the CN rail main line, it was partially astride a CN shunting yard, and next to an escarpment, hence the verticality). Very cool but scary, as chunks of concrete regularly fall of and many rusty reinforcing rods show through the structure.
http://static4.businessinsider.com/i...eal-canada.jpg businessinsider It is being completely rebuilt from scratch. redesign render http://spacingmontreal.ca/wp-content...nterchange.jpg spacingmontreal.ca |
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Yay Southern Freeways... |
While not particularly complicated, the sheer amount of land the M-5/I-96/I-969/I-275 interchange in Novi in western Metro Detroit takes up is just ridiculous:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2...ingbowlnd2.jpg BTW, while neither particularly large or complicated, Detroit's main street, Woodward Avenue, has some fairly interesting crossings for a main street at 8 Mile and 696. It's a technically a state highway, but functions as a main street through much of its course, so it's weird when you hit the grade separations. |
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The winding streets (especially outside of Midtown and Downtown) creates odd intersections with other winding streets and may cause confusion. Also the seemingly constant changing of street names may also add to confusion. This situation sometimes make some certain streets underutilized even when the freeway is congested. I have lived in Atlanta many years and know it pretty well but I still find out things on how streets connect here. Until recently, I didn't know that Juniper Street, Courtland Avenue and Washington Street share the same road alignment (same street - name changes) through Midtown/Downtown. It's an excellent alternative to a congested Downtown Connector if you are traveling south. I have never had a terrible commute living in Atlanta but I've always lived inside the city or inside/near the Perimeter. I also seek and utilized alternatives to the freeway like the secondary streets and MARTA. Also, GA400 and the Northern Arc of 285 are bigger "cluster fuck" to the Downtown Connector IMO. They carry just as much traffic, their exits are further apart, and they have less alternatives. |
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...cinCebolao.jpg Link
In São Paulo, this quite simple one, comparing yours is so called Cebolão, which means big onion. There is also the Cebolinha, small onion, this one http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3168/2...b67_z.jpg?zz=1 link cool thread btw. |
^cool shots. I have such a love/hate feeling about these myriad-lane monsters.
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reconstructed acadie circle interchange in Montreal:
http://www.snclavalin.com/upload/exp...inf_acadie.jpg snclavalin |
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http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3020/interchange.jpg source: google maps |
A few from Japan... All images from Google Earth.
Ōyamazaki JCT / IC Two tollways over a Shinkansen line (plus one future tollway) http://goo.gl/maps/lVUp3 http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8720/oyamazakiic.jpg Kawasaki Ukishima JCT / IC Three tollways meeting in a cross, with three legs as tunnels http://goo.gl/maps/I7dJ4 http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9...ukishimaic.jpg Tarumi JCT Three tollways with connectors in concentric circles http://goo.gl/maps/dbfqF http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6310/tarumijct.jpg |
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the massive interchange with the NJ Turnpike with I-78 right near Newark International Airport. I drove on that sucker recently, and if I'm correct with my count, I counted some 18 lanes of NJ Turnpike just north of that major interchange...
There's another notable ginormous stack interchange right near the Eastern terminus of I-70 west of Baltimore... That's four levels anyway... |
Amazing shots.
Do teabaggers ever protest about the $$$$$ spent building/maintaining these monstrosities? |
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And if we go by area and the number of ramps, cases can be made for the Hillside Strangler and the 190/90/294 interchange in Rosemont. They're Chicago's equivalents of the East LA interchange. When they rebuild the 90/290 interchange in Schaumburg and incorporate all those collector/distributor ramps for adjacent exits, that will be Chicago's answer to the Dallas High 5 or the 105/110 in LA. |
Several interchanges in Barcelona are integrated with parkland and plaza space, which is pretty cool.
Plaça de los Glories Catalanes http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1074/4...6627717b_b.jpg source http://i.uride.it/b/p1432_C3z9e.jpg source Parc de la Trinitat http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ymx9e66vrG...00/nudo8uh.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ymx9e66vrG...600/241688.jpg source There's also the rail version... built OVER a highway interchange. Nus de Mollet http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7222/7...051e5846_c.jpg source http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6033/6...c2c1a5ab_z.jpg source |
nyc's best spaghetti junction isnt for cars, its for rail. since 1884, its broadway junction in eastern brooklyn:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=180454 |
Off the top of my head the most complicated major road junction (i.e. ignoring the magic roundabouts) in the UK is probably Gravelly Hill Interchange (aka Spaghetti Junction) in Birmingham. The junction consists of several roads, a roundabout, a railway line, and several canals and rivers.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...i_Junction.jpg Source: Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravelly_Hill_Interchange Quote:
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I'm surprised nobody has posted Spaghetti Junction in Louisville.
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Anthony Henday Drive (hwy 216 - ring road) and Hwy 2 interchange in Edmonton;
http://www.hotmixmag.com/images/vol1...oad-canada.jpg Deerfoot Trail / HWY 22x interchange plans (currently under construction) in Calgary: (PDF) Link. |
SR 520 (Washington)/RH Thomson Expressway. This one was never built, but it would've been interesting:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3589/3...4f2f8e61_b.jpg Answers, at last! by hey skinny, on Flickr The RH Thomson was never built (except for a small section of unused roadway on the south end of the interchange), so the interchange was only partially built (2 ramps connect 520 to Lake Washington Blvd and the one which would've gone from northbound RH Thomson to westbound 520 is unused except for people diving into Lake Washington (the area around the interchange was never filled in)). What is there currently will be removed when 520 from I-5 to the Evergreen Point floating bridge is rebuilt. |
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http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4081/4...a5bc70db_z.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/pikmin/...n/photostream/ |
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