Will the US see an uptick in European/Caucasian Immigration?
This was inspired by the tread "Will Asian American immigration (like Hispanics did in the 2000s) peak/slow soon?"
Europe was the main sources of immigration up until the mid 20th Century but has continued to decline since then. Western Europe: Overall has a much higher standing of living than the US. There is some right wing hysteria about Europe collapsing in the future but still the US is less of a desirable location to immigrate to except for a handful of wealthy people who want to avoid the higher taxes. Eastern Europe/Russia: The overall quality of life has increased in those places and immigration has declined since the modest wave after the fall of Communism. Israel: Israel has a fairly high quality of life but that region is unpredictable. South Africa: A lot of Whites are looking to leave but Australia seems to be the main destination of choice. Canada: Overall higher quality of life but Canada is actually one of the largest sources of White immigration to the US. Latin America: Mostly tied to political upheaval where the White elites leave after leftist uprisings. Was the case in Cuba after the Communist revolution. In the recent case with Venezuela a handful have gone to Miami but most have gone to other Latin American Countries such as Brazil and Chile. |
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There won't be large numbers of whites immigrating to the U.S. anytime soon, for obvious reasons. Immigration is very difficult, so is generally attempted by those without domestic opportunities, and that isn't the case in Western Europe. But that doesn't mean Western Europe has economic parity with the U.S. And most of Eastern Europe can move to Western Europe as easily as an American can move from Michigan to Ohio. So why would they come here? |
No, caucasian immigration isn't happening anytime soon in the US.
Also, like you mentioned, I have noticed lots more white Venezuelans in Brazil as of late, due to the crisis in Venezuela. |
White population is decreasing in most countries and about to decrease in Americas and Oceania. There will be no immigration or it will be negligible.
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Large scale immigration has always been from poverty to opportunity. What nation of white people isn’t on the scale of the US in terms of wealth? Except maybe Russia, and we get a lot in Silicon Valley.
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The entire eastern Europe, the 160 million or so whites in Latin America are all way below the US in terms of wealth.
The thing is eastern Europeans can easily go to Western Europe while White Latin Americans live relatively good lives taking full advantage of extremely unequal societies, regressive taxes, cheap labour and low competitive environment. Moreover, they are about to decline and the bulk of them live in the southern portions of South America, far away from the US or Western Europe, so no mass immigration is likely. |
France and the UK are still top 10 immigrant sources in Canada (as is the US, for that matter). And while Canadian immigration policy obviously has no bearing on that of the US, it's clear that there also are still large numbers of Europeans interested in coming to North America. Moving "up" to from a developing country to a first world country isn't necessarily the only pattern of immigration - as evidenced by the millions of Canadian and American emigrants around the world.
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Historically Europe is overdue for blowing itself up again. |
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but the US has almost every cold economic number in the bag by quite a bit. |
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https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...und-in-places/ https://www.pewresearch.org/global/w...Class_1-01.png There's little incentive for a middle class person to want to come to the US. However there might be a handful of wealthy people who would want to come here for lower taxes or to start businesses. |
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Source: Australian Bureau of Statistics (2018)[2] Place of birth Estimated resident population[A] Total Australian-born 17,650,000 Total foreign-born 7,341,910 England England[B] 992,000 Mainland China Mainland China[C] 651,000 India India 592,000 New Zealand New Zealand 568,000 Philippines Philippines 278,000 Vietnam Vietnam 256,000 South Africa South Africa 189,000 Italy Italy 187,000 Malaysia Malaysia 174,000 Scotland Scotland[D] 135,000 Sri Lanka Sri Lanka 134,500 South Korea South Korea 116,120 Germany Germany 114,580 Greece Greece 108,830 United States United States 108,610 Hong Kong Hong Kong SAR[E] 100,620 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreig...n_of_Australia |
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I don't think many people would define higher living standards as being poorer as long as long as others are poorer too. Quote:
And the wealthy, all things equal, are probably better off in Europe. There are many tax shelters (Switzerland, Luxembourg, Monaco, Lichtenstein, even the UK to an extent), but if you're American you would have renounce citizenship, probably a deal-breaker to most. If you're trying to protect intergenerational wealth Europe is probably a better bet, especially if you're not American (which is why third world despots and Arab playboys tend to domicile in London, Monaco or Zurich instead of NY or LA). |
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I would also say that many European countries have a heavy social and cultural pressure to not over-exceed which the USA largely does not have and in fact we tend to attract people with wildly unlikely desires for wealth and personal success. |
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So I am not that worried and considering I was able to find a very basic job in my early 20's for 35 hours a week that provided adequate healthcare I have a very hard time feeling sympathy for those who dont. Que "yeah but what about these other people" :shrug: what do you expect me to do about that? If we enact universal healthcare I'll still pay for a supplemental above that (as most Europeans with means to also do) so it does nothing but increase my and my friends/families healthcare costs. |
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