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BifRayRock Jan 25, 2013 9:39 PM

Feb 25, 1930 Lots graded and ready for development

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ran&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ran&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ran&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ran&DMROTATE=0

Colvin's - Ask for the UV protection extended warranty! Void where prohibited by law.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ran&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ran&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ran&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ran&DMROTATE=0

Images from USCDigital Awnings and draperies from Colvin's

tovangar2 Jan 25, 2013 10:34 PM

Wilshire & Cloverdale/Miracle Mile
 
I'd say the Dominguez Wilshire/Myer Siegel (Morgan, Walls & Clements, 1930) was improvement on Sackett's & Colville's
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...534%2520PM.jpg
csu dominguez hills arcives

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U...621%2520PM.jpg
djcarlosrossi/flickr

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i...113%2520PM.jpg
juliewolfson306/flickr

I wish I could read the rooftop sign, on the extreme right in the construction photo above, on 5505 Wilshire, across from Desmond's. Anyone know what it was?

And another construction photo, because it makes a nice pair with the one following it.
Security First National Bank, La Brea Branch (Stiles O Clements/Morgan,Walls & Clements, 1929) 5209 Wilshire. One can see the west tower of the existing Security Bank building was demolished to build this. Shown before Rufus Keeler showed up with the black and gold glazed-terra cotta clading and before the Wilson building moved in next door to the west.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-a...049%2520PM.jpg
waterandpower.org

1928:
http://waterandpower.org/Historical_..._Brea_1928.jpg
waterandpower.org

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-C...239%2520PM.jpg
gsv

Godzilla Jan 25, 2013 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5988026)
I'd say the Dominguez Wilshire/Myer Siegel (Morgan, Walls & Clements, 1930) was improvement on Sackett's & Colville's

Colvin may have thought otherwise, and his/her/its draperies come highly recommended by . . . the Sackett Bros! ;)



Wilshire Dominguez series:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9546

Security First Nat'l series:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=9452



Not sure of the sign to which you may be referring. This slightly larger version is not much of an improvement, but it may help.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5...uezwilshir.jpghttp://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5...uezwilshir.jpg

alester young Jan 26, 2013 12:04 AM

Pershing Square Post June 2012
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kznyc2k (Post 5750363)
Pershing square through the prime noir years, starting in 1930.]

Hi kznyc2k

What a great post -thank you for hosting this.

I live in the UK and am a keen collector of 1930s/ 1940s US images -there are some really distinctive and outstanding photos here which have great impact.

Pershing Square looked way better with the banana trees -but then L.A. had to have that Joni Mitchell moment and that underground parking lot was a real must have. What a shame...

I looking forward to seeing more of your posts -hope that you can pull some more white rabbits out of the hat!

All The Best

alester young

Godzilla Jan 26, 2013 12:32 AM

1926 Wilshire and Sycamore (block east of La Brea)

NW Corner

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ore&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ore&DMROTATE=0

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tovangar2 Jan 26, 2013 12:41 AM

5505 Wilshire sign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5988109)
Not sure of the sign to which you may be referring. This slightly larger version is not much of an improvement, but it may help.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5...uezwilshir.jpghttp://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5...uezwilshir.jpg

Thx for trying. It's this one:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...529%2520PM.jpg

...at 5505. Impossible to read. I was hoping someone knew what it said. The building's still there, sans sign.

tovangar2 Jan 26, 2013 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5988149)
1926 Wilshire and Sycamore (block east of La Brea)

NW Corner

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ore&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ore&DMROTATE=0
usc digital

I'm still finding it very odd that Security First National demolished the west end of this building in favor of the black & gold Clements building (not that I'm complaining) as they gained little or no extra square footage. Was it just for image?

Godzilla Jan 26, 2013 12:55 AM

1926 Pico "Street" between 5th and 6th Avenues. Today the building still exists but the streets may have been renumbered and renamed. 3800 W Pico Blvd.??

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Special Sunday Dinner?
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USC Digital

Godzilla Jan 26, 2013 1:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5988176)
I'm still finding it very odd that Security First National demolished the west end of this building in favor of the black & gold Clements building (not that I'm complaining) as they gained little or no extra square footage. Was it just for image?

It looks as though they took over See's candy vault.

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tovangar2 Jan 26, 2013 1:19 AM

Pershing Square Rats
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alester young (Post 5988121)
Pershing Square looked way better with the banana trees...

http://urbandiachrony.wordpress.com/...aza-1939-2011/


...although the quote from the 1948 LA Times article doesn't really quite get it right. The park wasn't so much invaded by rats after dark, the rats, being nocturnal, were already there, they just woke up. They like to nest in banana trees.

More on the Square:
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...e-decades.html


And speaking of rats, Pershing Square's namesake could be a bit of one. In January 1920 a crowd of 500 welcomed Gen John J. Pershing, leader of the American Expeditionary Force in World War I to a banquet in the Hotel Alexandria's Palm Court. Speeches were given "of 100 per cent Americanism" and condemning the menaces of internationalists, isolationists, anarchists, and profiteers. Pershing noted that ignorance had caused the fall of Russia and advocated requiring every foreigner to learn to read and write or be shipped back to "the foul nest from which they came."
quoted from wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Co...exandria_Hotel)

I vote for renaming and rehabbing the park (and extending it to Lindley Place so it's, duh, square).

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2013 2:01 AM

'Stool Pigeon' circa 1935.

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/1378/aabstoolp1.jpg
ebay





reverse
http://imageshack.us/a/img850/9836/aabstoolpigeonr1.jpg


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FredH Jan 26, 2013 2:05 AM

Does anyone have any information on this building at 544 Mateo? I used to work down the street by the 6th Street bridge and went by this place every day on the way home.

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/8691/capturevtp.jpg
Google Street View

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8661/capture1ul.jpg
Google Street View

Its only use seemed to be as a filming location.

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/4049/capture3uf.jpg
Google Maps

Google seems to refer to it as the Pan Pacfic Warehouse

ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2013 2:08 AM

:previous: I love that building FredH. I hope we can dig up some information.
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Storefront, Los Angeles, circa 1909. No address, other than the 2232 above the door.

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ebay






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BifRayRock Jan 26, 2013 2:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 5988168)
Thx for trying. It's this one:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...529%2520PM.jpg

...at 5505. Impossible to read. I was hoping someone knew what it said. The building's still there, sans sign.





The signage and Bank may have changed, but in '47 it was the Bank of America.
http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...5jj/hi-res.jpghttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7638

By '78 it was the Wilshire Insurance COmpany
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090420.jpgLapl


1938 - 5425 Wilshire Blvd. (Wilshire and Cochran) Before it was the "Flying Saucer" it was "The Glorified Hamburger." One could argue that there is no truth in advertising since the grill that never closes, did.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101386.jpgLAPL


ethereal_reality Jan 26, 2013 2:40 AM

I accidentally came across this impressive arts and craft residence on the 1400 block of Colorado Boulevard at Hermosa Avenue.

http://imageshack.us/a/img14/3079/aa...0blockcolo.jpg
gsv





Surprisingly, a closer view reveals the residence is a club of some sort.

http://imageshack.us/a/img268/3535/a...0blockofco.jpg
gsv






below: This is the front facade facing Hermosa Avenue with Colorado Boulevard at left.

http://imageshack.us/a/img571/5639/a...0b1fronton.jpg
gsw






As I was about to leave..I noticed one of those 'El Camino' bells. (if you look closely, it's also visible in the photograph above)

http://imageshack.us/a/img705/5862/a...0blockc2el.jpg
gsv


Does anyone know the history of this place?

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BifRayRock Jan 26, 2013 2:53 AM

November 23, 1962 - 636 Dunsmuir (Little if anything has changed other than some new paint and tenants. :)


http://cbk2.google.com/cbk?output=th...=1&w=300&h=118

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics14/00026748.jpgLapl



1935 - 621 S. Dunsmuir

http://cbk0.google.com/cbk?output=th...=1&w=300&h=118
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics14/00026822.jpgLapl

tovangar2 Jan 26, 2013 3:10 AM

544 Mateo/Nate Starkman/Pan Pacific Warehouse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 5988239)
Does anyone have any information on this building at 544 Mateo? I used to work down the street by the 6th Street bridge and went by this place every day on the way home.
Its only use seemed to be as a filming location.
Google seems to refer to it as the Pan Pacific Warehouse

Built 1908:
http://gallerygodo.net/picture/544%2...leryImage=true
gallerygodo.net

It does only seem to be used as a location.
She's ready for her close-up (when you are): http://natestarkmanbuilding.com/

Interiors:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tutWlUZI_X...0/IMG_2057.JPG
http://fierce-couture.blogspot.com

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_...334%2520PM.jpg
minorthread/modernvariety/flickr

location info:
http://www.repomanfilm.com/map.htm
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?loc...ifornia,%20USA
http://movielanddirectory.com/tour-l...om_movie=53984
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1o3aHf5JLQ
http://www.flickr.com/photos/grassfire/5736339100/
http://moviemaps.org/locations/ub

Loopnet building specs:
http://www.loopnet.com/Property-Reco...13/OzT5peK4A/#

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/...cccf4cf4bd.jpg
http://www.flickriver.com

tovangar2 Jan 26, 2013 3:37 AM

Women's Twentieth Century Club of Eagle Rock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5988268)
Does anyone know the history of this place?

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Women's Twentieth Century Club of Eagle Rock:
http://www.wtcc-er.org/history.htm

1914:
http://www.wtcc-er.org/images/clubhouse_grdbreaking.jpg

2013:
http://www.wtcc-er.org/images/clubhouse_front.jpg
www.wtcc-er.org

Chuckaluck Jan 26, 2013 3:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5988261)


1938 - 5425 Wilshire Blvd. (Wilshire and Cochran) Before it was the "Flying Saucer" it was "The Glorified Hamburger." One could argue that there is no truth in advertising since the grill that never closes, did.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00101/00101386.jpgLAPL


Wimpy's was part of a "Coast to Coast" hamburger chain. The Chain availed itself of a recognizable building design.;)

It seems that Wimpy's The Glorified Hamburger was in existence while Judy pitched her flowers.
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2...andflowers.jpghttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8012


http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090378.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090379.jpghttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6849



http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1248/1...f36158ac_b.jpghttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6848


http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-imag...t-71695669.jpghttp://www.trademarkia.com

http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-imag...r-71379326.jpghttp://www.trademarkia.com

Another former Wimpy's Home of the Glorified Burger
Built in 1946 - Harper and Hyde Park, Chicago. (A future Staples?)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2137/2...783b3c9e_o.jpgFlickr

BifRayRock Jan 26, 2013 4:21 AM



Image is date non-specific (1930-1940) Most likely 1938 - Wilshire Blvd. - "The White Spot" and "Glorified Hamburger" (The Post-Bob's Era) :wiseman::fruit:

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