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FredH Oct 18, 2014 5:31 AM

Speaking of Angels Flight...
 
Does anyone have the details regarding the changes made to the Angels Flight station up on Olive Street?
Here are the basics that I know (or think I know).

When Angels Flight started about 1901, the Olive Street station was just a small shelter.
I think this may be it next to the Elks building.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psddbcceff.jpg
LAPL


About 1910, this beautiful station was built. Here is a photo, which I believe Michael Ryerson
posted (sorry if it was someone else).

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps3f45c4d7.jpg



Here is where I start to get lost. By the early 1920's, the station was down to about one third of its size.
What happened? It appears in this photo that the bottom of some of the pillars were still in place.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps9844d6e7.jpg
LAPL


Then, maybe sometime in the 1930's or 1940's (again I don't know for sure), someone with absolutely no architectural
ability tacked on the ugly addition which remains to this day.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps28c49905.jpg
LAPL


Does anyone know what happened to the 1910 station and why was it never restored?





ER - Pretty ironic that the movie sphinx also got buried in sand and had to be discovered by archaeologists.

ethereal_reality Oct 18, 2014 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 6773115)
I didn't know Mike Lyman had a venue called Flight Deck at Los Angeles International Airport (1960)

Martin_T, I've collected some photographs over the years of Mike Lyman's Flight Deck. Loooove the roof-top signage.

1955
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...903/MUyjaN.jpg
ebay


noir 1955
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/hZ5FWm.jpg
unknown



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/LJr9nc.jpg
ebay



1952
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/xh6ZCE.jpg
ebay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/YS2dcY.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...674/wJ2SPW.jpg
ebay

If I remember correctly, there was also a Mike Lyman's at Burbank/Lockheed. I'll have to look into it. Does anyone else remember that?
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AlvaroLegido Oct 18, 2014 9:24 PM

My guess...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6772629)
I found this earlier in the week on ebay. The seller lists the date as 1909.

Los Angeles
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/VmkUjy.jpg

I'm not 100% sure where we're looking, so I'll leave it to the pros. :)
(Here's a vague guess....is it the area of 6th Street looking west?)

Even though I found this on ebay, there's always the possibility it's a LAPL photograph...or from the UCLA archives.
..or maybe we've even seen this view before on NLA. It's hard to check without solid information.

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As no PRO answered 24 hours later, I'll try.
This picture gave me an headache : no way to identify what section of Downtown it is. The street on the back center/right seems to be Second Street but it wouldn't be cut by the buildings on the front. At last I had the idea to place a mirror in front of my screen and then it seemed to start to make sense. My guess : in the mirror we are looking East from Beaudry or Boylston to Court Street.

ethereal_reality Oct 18, 2014 10:01 PM

:previous: AlvaroLegido, I believe I found the same building (left-foreground) in an old file of mine.
If I remember correctly this is a detail from a 1904 pano. (I'm looking for it now)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/913/kBB2ZK.jpg
old file

..but in this view you can read the large painted sign on the north side of the building...it says Wieland's.
More interesting are the two stubby chimneys. (they're missing in the 1909 sepia photo)

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ethereal_reality Oct 18, 2014 10:30 PM

1909 / right side of the original sepia photo
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/DrTVgN.jpg
ebay



I could be wrong, but
I think this might be the same area as in the above photo (in the red rectangle). The twin white buildings give it away..as does the clump of trees,
and the houses on the crest of the hill.

1904
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/2OOIJz.jpg
detail/1904



And here is the original panorama / I just located it on a different CD I have.
-titled "Looking west from downtown 1904" The buildings in the detail above must be far far away, or else I have the wrong pano.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/674/kKeVcZ.jpg
old file / probably USC

I'm going to USC archives to find the photo so I can provide a link / and to see if this is the correct pano.
also so we can use their super-duper magnifier. :)

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ethereal_reality Oct 18, 2014 10:48 PM

just for fun...


Calla Lily Granulated Soap (detergent I presume) made by the Los Angeles Soap Company.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/UDRYwB.jpg
ebay



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/746/SLKCCm.jpg
ebay


I'm going to count the seconds to see how long it takes someone to post a photograph of Katherine Hepburn in 'Stage Door'. ;)

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CityBoyDoug Oct 19, 2014 1:58 AM

Like a lovely lady
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6773709)
just for fun...


Calla Lily Granulated Soap (detergent I presume) made by the Los Angeles Soap Company.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/UDRYwB.jpg
ebay

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Some beautiful Calla Lilies from wiki....What we see here are the sex organs of the flower...I won't go into details here as this is a family thread......

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps72c0d201.jpg

rick m Oct 19, 2014 2:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 6773648)
As no PRO answered 24 hours later, I'll try.
This picture gave me an headache : no way to identify what section of Downtown it is. The street on the back center/right seems to be Second Street but it wouldn't be cut by the buildings on the front. At last I had the idea to place a mirror in front of my screen and then it seemed to start to make sense. My guess : on the mirror we are looking East from Beaudry or Boylston to Court Street.

My feeling is this is of the Westlake District around 8th looking N/E and picking up some of Angelino Hts ridge - with mountains looming over Pasadena ,etc in far distance.....

FredH Oct 19, 2014 2:43 AM

State Building, Los Angeles, CA, 1931
 
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...pse560fff3.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/17395/rec/47


I thought these buildings were being torn down

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psff13e24e.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/17395/rec/47


But they seemed to have survived...at least for a while

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psa37b0157.jpg


I'm pretty sure this went away

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps06d480a9.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/17395/rec/47


OK - Here I am confused. This has got to be an L.A. Times structure, but what is it exactly? The old building was blown up and this is not the new one.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps0873e298.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/17395/rec/47


http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psf21f9642.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/17395/rec/47


Nice view of the Hall of Records and County Court House next door

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...psde212d46.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/17395/rec/47

ProphetM Oct 19, 2014 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredH (Post 6773888)
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...pse560fff3.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/17395/rec/47


OK - Here I am confused. This has got to be an L.A. Times structure, but what is it exactly? The old building was blown up and this is not the new one.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps0873e298.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/17395/rec/47

That is the third Times building. It was built on the same site as the second building after that was blown up in 1910. It co-existed with the State Building for several years until the Times moved into their 4th and current home, and then it was torn down about 1938. There were a series of posts relating to the building this summer. The remains of the State Building were removed this year to turn that area into a park, and in the process they uncovered a two-story underground parking structure on the corner of 1st and Broadway, with a footprint matching the third Times building. The information our resident sleuths put together suggested very strongly that this parking structure was originally the basement and sub-basement of the third Times building. After the 1938 demolition this area was part of the front lawn of the State Building, so the structure was not seen again from outside until they were removing it this past summer.

Sweet Los Angeles Oct 19, 2014 4:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6773695)
1909 / right side of the original sepia photo
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/DrTVgN.jpg
ebay



I could be wrong, but
I think this might be the same area as in the above photo (in the red rectangle). The twin white buildings give it away..as does the clump of trees,
and the houses on the crest of the hill.

1904
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/2OOIJz.jpg
detail/1904



And here is the original panorama / I just located it on a different CD I have.
-titled "Looking west from downtown 1904" The buildings in the detail above must be far far away, or else I have the wrong pano.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/674/kKeVcZ.jpg
old file / probably USC

I'm going to USC archives to find the photo so I can provide a link / and to see if this is the correct pano.
also so we can use their super-duper magnifier. :)

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It looks to me to be part of the panoramic photo titled "Los Angeles, Cal., Feb. 8th, 1909, looking northwest from Hill and 7th Streets".

I found the pano at the LOC http://www.loc.gov/item/2007660429/

I just haven't found a way to post the image itself. :o)

HossC Oct 19, 2014 5:33 PM

:previous:

Well spotted, Sweet Los Angeles. I was hoping someone would recognize the location, because it's been bugging me since e_r posted the original picture. Here's the full 1909 panorama from 7th and Hill.
NB. I've increased the contrast.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...9.jpg~original
Library of Congress

Now I know where it is, I can work out what some of the buildings are!

Martin Pal Oct 19, 2014 6:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6772602)
Before you roll your eyes and say "Not Angels Flight again."

Do you guys remember Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In? In their filmed sgments they used to have a running gag with a man in a yellow raincoat atop a tricycle who would ride it a few feet in some usually non-descript area of Los Angeles and then tip over.

I was watching an episode last month and there was the yellow raincoated man on the tricycle at the base of Angel's Flight as it was descending and when it reached bottom he tipped over. I was surprised to see that.

Martin Pal Oct 19, 2014 6:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6772602)
Thanks for checking on the Ambassador helipad HossC. Perhaps it was only temporary.

I've seen footage of JFK landing in front of the Ambassador in a helicopter during the Democratic convention in 1960.

BifRayRock Oct 19, 2014 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6618103)
It is with a heavy heart I must report the loss of one of our children. The ModernCraft, RIP. 1930-2014.

Mole-Richardson sold her in December for 9.3mil; that should have been a red flag right there. Then the demo permits were applied for, granted, pulled, and she came down in the blink of an eye. These images are from 10 June:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/...42e7f6c8_c.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3850/...8b0485f6_c.jpg


http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...REBRTQ4JF8.jpghttp://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...REBRTQ4JF8.jpg






ModernCraft but lighter than air? Better mileage with Blimp gas?

The "late" Moderncraft building reminded me of this forgotten transportation-related gem.





1932 - 1415 East Olympic Boulevard.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/33001/rec/55


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0


Shell and Texaco - available under one Dirigible. (Blimp, Associated and Gilmore under another.)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0


Gas for every combustion chamber palate. It would be interesting to see these pumps in their original harlequin-colored glory.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0




http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/27852/rec/54



Source understandably identifies subject as being on "9th Street." CD lists 1415 East Olympic (10th) Street.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0




http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/30355/rec/81



1931 - Construction, finishing touches. In the shadow of a friendly gasometer.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/30355/rec/81



http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ice&DMROTATE=0



Martin Pal Oct 19, 2014 7:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6772653)
Company picnic!

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/LeldId.jpg
ebay
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tag words:

Machinery Mfg. Company Employees
3rd Annual Picnic
Elysian Park
July 18, 1943
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Great evocative photo e_r. Can't help but wonder what was on their minds in that year, the middle of World War II? Such a generic sounding name for a company, too. Wonder if it had anything to do with the war? In most photos like this it seems people generally are not smiling and often a lot of blank expressions, but nearly everyone in this picture seems to have a pleasant enough demeanor!

ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2014 7:50 PM

Thanks for locating that 1909 pano Sweet Los Angeles.

Flyingwedge reminded me that the building in the distance (with the green x) is the Westmoore Hotel at 7th and Francisco.
The church (blue x) is the First Baptist Church at 725 S. Flower.

1904
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/674/jFr1Ff.jpg
detail

...also visible is the Martz Flats at 7th & Flower.


Here's the church around 1910 / originally posted by FlyingWedge
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/905/rVWYpk.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12197



and here's the Westmoore
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/631/wd0WEg.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12197

Go here for FW's complete post that's chock full of information.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=12197

You can see a 1915 color postcard of the Westmoore here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11768
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back to the top 1904 photo.
What do you guy think...are the two rounded objections chimneys? They seem to be in such an odd spot.

ethereal_reality Oct 19, 2014 8:05 PM

I'll repost this interesting article since it's relevant again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5983405)

This image shows the income property built in front of, and attached to, the Westmoore.

CityBoyDoug Oct 19, 2014 9:16 PM

What's old is new again......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5983405)

Over the many years I've lived in Los Angeles, I've seen hundreds of Mexican trucks loaded with used lumber that were headed for Tijuana and a new life.

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5c514988.jpg

You can buy some of this lumber at :
E & K Vintage Wood

5036 Venice Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 9001

People like to use it for tables, flooring, etc....it has a character all its own.

jg6544 Oct 19, 2014 9:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6773845)
Some beautiful Calla Lilies from wiki....What we see here are the sex organs of the flower...I won't go into details here as this is a family thread......

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps72c0d201.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNtz0r5pmXo

Couldn't resist!


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