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FredH Jun 25, 2014 1:03 AM

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I'm trying to decide if the iced tea/malt shack is a remodeled version of the old white log coffee shop, or a new structure on the same site. At the moment i'm leaning toward the former

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...pscd8248e0.jpg
Alameda and Los Angeles Streets, 1943

I think you are correct HossC. That sure looks like the same building.

Albany NY Jun 25, 2014 2:41 AM

Sad, so sad.
 
[QUOTE=Chuckaluck;6629441]1929 Santa Monica and Gower, western view (??).

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...d/7353/rec/320

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I used to enjoy finding "survivors" on NLA, no matter how mundane they may have seemed. But lately I find it simply sad. The survivor below is barely surviving at all. It looks boarded up, with a trash bag on the entry roof. The 'grand dames' of old LA are either renovated and cherished, or reduced to rubble. But simple places like this are left to rot, robbed of their meager dignity....forced to linger in purgatory while denied any hope of rescue.

http://imageshack.com/a/img834/6726/z8jtj.jpg

CityBoyDoug Jun 25, 2014 3:37 AM

Long ago.....as time goes by.
 
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Originally Posted by Albany NY (Post 6630897)
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I used to enjoy finding "survivors" on NLA, no matter how mundane they may have seemed. But lately I find it simply sad. The survivor below is barely surviving at all. It looks boarded up, with a trash bag on the entry roof. The 'grand dames' of old LA are either renovated and cherished, or reduced to rubble. But simple places like this are left to rot, robbed of their meager dignity....forced to linger in purgatory while denied any hope of rescue.

http://imageshack.com/a/img834/6726/z8jtj.jpg

HI Albany:

My roommate Walter, who was a criminal defense attorney, and I used to live at the end of this block going West. I was going to college then and it was 1972. The ramshackle 1901 house we lived in is long gone. You can still see the vacant lot on the South side of the street. Walter later moved to San Francisco....I stayed in the LA area.

The photo you posted brings back a lot of old but still fresh memories.

You can see our old house in the background. I believe it had been built around 1900. Upstairs at the Left was an actor's school. I used to watch the beautiful hopeful actors walk up those stairs. What became of them?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ps6a764378.jpg
personal collection

Retired_in_Texas Jun 25, 2014 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6630972)
I used to watch the beautiful hopeful actors walk up those stairs. What became of them?

They're working as Disney Characters at Disneyland. maybe working in a Valley car wash or at a Denny's. Some may have taken Dionne Warwick's choice to return to San Jose? You do know the way to San Jose I presume.

Sorry, just couldn't resist!

Graybeard Jun 25, 2014 6:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 6630972)
I used to watch the beautiful hopeful actors walk up those stairs. What became of them?

Some married rich and got their own "reality" show...

http://imageshack.com/a/img834/3523/1vsy9.jpg
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CityBoyDoug Jun 25, 2014 8:15 PM

You oughta be in movies....
 
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Originally Posted by Retired_in_Texas (Post 6631653)
They're working as Disney Characters at Disneyland. maybe working in a Valley car wash or at a Denny's. Some may have taken Dionne Warwick's choice to return to San Jose? You do know the way to San Jose I presume.

Sorry, just couldn't resist!

Graybeard and Retired:

:D:D:D Retired.....very true.

Yes, it was really amazing to see these face-beautiful people attending the ''acting classes''. The boys were actually prettier than the girls.

The'' Acting Coach'' would go into a locked room and make the students pound on the door and shout loudly. I could hear it day and night, it went on for hours. I guess that's whats called ''method'' acting?

ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2014 9:47 PM

Thanks for pinpointing the location of the iced tea stand FredH and HossC.

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6629927)
Here's a closer picture from 1954. The Dragon's Den and Lugo House have gone, but there's a nice Gruen clock right
in the center in front of the Methodist Church.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...iousMalts1.jpg
USC Digital Library


I believe this slide shows the back side of the former iced tea stand.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/820/q5a3.jpg
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...and there's the Gruen Clock sign (mentioned by HossC) at far right.

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for reference: the 1940's iced tea stand.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=22173

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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2014 9:49 PM

second slide, I believe was taken on the same day.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/849/3jpm.jpg
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Chuckaluck Jun 25, 2014 11:04 PM

1929 - West Pico meets Ardmore. http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../33332/rec/544


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Piggly meets Wiggly. (Awfully busy when the middle of the image is removed!)
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More complete version
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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2014 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 6629976)
ER, the object on the curb with the pole and weatherhead is a Union Switch and Signal Company railroad signal base. Note that there is a power line running vertically to a tie with the pole line. While I am not sure exactly what it controlled at this location, I suspect it had something to do with Pacific Electric's express service at the south end of LAUPT (Los Angeles Union Passenger Terminal) or Los Angeles Railway's Macy loop at the north end, both of which lay adjacent to the SP tracks on Alameda Street.

Thanks for your expertise Wig-Wag (Jack). I didn't notice that vertical power line until you pointed it out.

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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2014 11:48 PM

originally posted by ChuckaLuck
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/849/7lqu.jpg



pre-code cinema
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/823/j1li.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5...orParis2.1.jpg

-the stylized O between Fifi's legs is a tad bit disconcerting.
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GaylordWilshire Jun 26, 2014 12:17 AM


I couldn't imagine how Pico & Arden might have intersected, then relaized you meant--or USC meant--Ardmore. Looking west from the intersection today, you can see that the three main buildings seen in the vintage shot still stand:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...2520PM.bmp.jpg

HossC Jun 26, 2014 12:38 AM

:previous:

Chuckaluck's link leads to a set of four pictures taken at the intersection of West Pico Boulevard and South Ardmore Avenue in 1929. I decided to do "then and nows" with three of them, although it looks like GW just beat me to the first one. Since I've already done the screengrabs, I'll include my versions here too.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...coArdmore1.jpg
USC Digital Library

As GW says, quite a few of these buildings have survived relatively intact, which should please Albany NY. The building behind the "Hot Paris" sign in the picture above is the yellow building behind the white one in the picture below. The white building on the left has survived reasonably well too. You can even still see the framework for the California Storage Co roof sign, although the current sign isn't as interesting.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...coArdmore2.jpg
GSV

This shot shows Pico looking south from Ardmore.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...coArdmore3.jpg
USC Digital Library

The house across the street is now a medical center, and apart from losing the Alamo Lunch cafe at the front, it looks fairly similar to the picture above.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...coArdmore4.jpg
GSV

This one is the reverse of the picture above.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...coArdmore5.jpg
USC Digital Library

I think the green building is a modified version of the one in the picture above. It's lost a few windows, but looks quite well kept. I was pleased to see that the house on the right with the diamond shaped skylights is still there. In the picture above, it looks like there's a single-story house next to the diamond skylight house. It's actually a seemingly well-preserved little courtyard of houses.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...coArdmore6.jpg
GSV

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2014 12:48 AM

:previous: Great before and after images GW and HossC.



While looking for information on Hot for Paris (1929), I came across this photograph of a strikingly beautiful actress.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/849/8kap.jpg
http://precodecinema.blogspot.com/20...1_archive.html

When I right-clicked on the photograph it was labeled Greta Nissen.


yet the website said it was Sylvia Sidney.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/829/ojb0.jpg


So which is it? Greta or Sylvia.....

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ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2014 12:59 AM

My favorite photograph of the Long Beach Municipal Auditorium.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/5v4bg.jpg
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;)

Graybeard Jun 26, 2014 1:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6632287)
:previous: Great before and after images GW and HossC.



While looking for information on Hot for Paris (1929), I came across this photograph of a strikingly beautiful actress.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/849/8kap.jpg
http://precodecinema.blogspot.com/20...1_archive.html

When I right-clicked on the photograph it was labeled Greta Nissen.


yet the website said it was Sylvia Sidney.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/829/ojb0.jpg


So which is it? Greta or Sylvia.....

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It's Greta. This is a photo of Sylvia and a bit about her.
http://imageshack.com/a/img822/928/kwh1.png
chiseler.org

http://chiseler.org/post/48925405594...ailhouse-blues

GaylordWilshire Jun 26, 2014 1:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6632276)

If you see something, say something.


Btw, ER: I'm still looking for the auditorium.

Wig-Wag Jun 26, 2014 1:47 AM

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Thanks, ER. That would indeed be a great avatar!

Cheers,
Jack

Chuckaluck Jun 26, 2014 2:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6632246)
I couldn't imagine how Pico & Arden might have intersected, then realized you meant--or USC meant--Ardmore. Looking west from the intersection today, you can see that the three main buildings seen in the vintage shot still stand:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...2520PM.bmp.jpg

My mistake.:no: Too many distractions and pauses during post. Was just getting to the other photos in HossC's most welcome post.

Thanks to all for your collective indulgence.


Any idea what the object placed near the bottom of the light post might be?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...coArdmore5.jpg
USC Digital Library

Graybeard Jun 26, 2014 2:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 6632361)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640.../837/3ii0p.jpg

-if skyscraperpage avatar's were rectangle instead of square, this could be your avatar. :)
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Thanks, ER. That would indeed be a great avatar!

Cheers,
Jack[/QUOTE]
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