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WS1911 Jun 10, 2014 11:57 PM

Boston Dry Goods and Newmark Buildings
 
For years I wondered what the two one-story buildings just north of the Byrne Building were originally. It never dawned on me that they might be the remains of the Boston Dry Goods and H. Newmark buildings, both built in the 1890s. Maybe someone can confirm this and if so, when were they reduced to one story. There was also a two-story building right next to the Byrne Building which is long gone.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/...psa8e621dd.jpg

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3f0c47df.jpg
Both above GSV


This is a composite of two photos showing both buildings.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/...ps334fb20f.jpg
Water and Power (left) Wikimedia (right)


1910 Baist Map showing both buildings

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/...ps37e4595b.jpg
Historic Map Works

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ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2014 1:01 AM

:previous: You're correct WS1911. Great post!
I've heard that these two one story buildings were truncated versions of earlier buildings.
Somewhere in my files I have information about a 'fair' that was held in the upper floors of the Boston Dry Goods Store.
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Is this Los Angeles?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/855/9r0e.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...0/829/knl1.jpgebay



A closer look at the buildings on the right.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/849/hl3g.jpg
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Beaudry Jun 11, 2014 1:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WS1911 (Post 6612984)
For years I wondered what the two one-story buildings just north of the Byrne Building were originally. It never dawned on me that they might be the remains of the Boston Dry Goods and H. Newmark buildings, both built in the 1890s. Maybe someone can confirm this and if so, when were they reduced to one story. There was also a two-story building right next to the Byrne Building which is long gone.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3f0c47df.jpg
Both above GSV


This is a composite of two photos showing both buildings.

http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/...ps334fb20f.jpg
Water and Power (left) Wikimedia (right)


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The best thing to do to understand the reduction would be to go down to DBS and pull their permit history. The City Assessor's website says the wedding chapel is 1895 and its neighbor the-former-Goodwill as 1899, so, original buildings.

Until you have all the details, here's a little something --

1958:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3875/...f804d2b2_o.gifhuntington

1965:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3844/...0d14a812_o.gifhuntington

WS1911 Jun 11, 2014 3:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6613074)
The best thing to do to understand the reduction would be to go down to DBS and pull their permit history. The City Assessor's website says the wedding chapel is 1895 and its neighbor the-former-Goodwill as 1899, so, original buildings.

Until you have all the details, here's a little something --

1958:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3875/...f804d2b2_o.gifhuntington

1965:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3844/...0d14a812_o.gifhuntington


Beaudry - Thank you! I knew someone would come up with information. The two photos you posted were great and satisfy my curiosity. I won’t dig into exact dates.

I discovered the Bradbury Building when I was a teenager in the 1960s and probably saw both of these buildings but don’t remember them. I’ve observed that these two and dozens of older buildings downtown had their parapet walls removed. The Bradbury’s parapet has not been restored and I would sure like to see it replicated. It would make the roofline more finished.

There are dozens of now nondescript one-story buildings downtown with brick side and back walls. I wonder what their histories are.

ER - Maybe you could post a link on the information about the "fair" in the Boston Dry Goods building.

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Those Who Squirm! Jun 11, 2014 6:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Retired_in_Texas (Post 6610391)
along with a lot of misapplication. We have a lot of almost pointless gadgets that may well be eating us alive from the inside out.

I hear you on how the kind of progress seen by the World War I generation seems to have stalled out.

OTOH I have to say I'm grateful for the gadgets. When I was a kid we didn't have them--or at least the kind of devices I think you mean--but the museums were free. Today it's usually at least ten bucks to get in and another sawbuck or two just to park the car. Being able to download pictures and other information on your PC or smartphone doesn't entirely replace the accessibility to museums, but it certainly offers some consolation.

JScott Jun 11, 2014 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6613074)



Oooh, cool! There's 224 South Olive up on Bunker Hill in the background. August, 1965 – that would make this the latest-dated photo of the place I've yet seen. Judging by the laundry that's hung out to dry on the porch of the bottom floor flat, it looks to be still occupied at the time, too.

GaylordWilshire Jun 11, 2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6613052)


This view is looking northeast across the NW corner of Hope and 12th--the Fra Apartments is in the background. The Chandler dealer was at 1144 S Hope...


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-o...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-M...2520AM.bmp.jpg

LAT June 9, 1909/Nov 1, 1917/Oct 4, 1914


Within a few years, Chandlers were being sold around the corner at 1100 S Flower in a building apparently replacing a nursery; while the Fra auctioned its contents in 1917, it was still listed in the 1973 phone book...


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-P...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...2520AM.bmp.jpg
LAT Oct 14, 1923/July 13, 1919

ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2014 2:37 PM

:previous: Really interesting information GW, thanks. Do you think that box on the corner is for parking tickets?
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WS1911, I don't have a link to the international fair I mentioned (in the Boston Store). It's in my files. I'm searching for it now.

Martin Pal Jun 11, 2014 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6606427)

Interesting, I don't recall ever seeing any sweet peas in Los Angeles.
In upstate New York my parents used to grow them around our property.
They're very colorful and the more you pick them, the more they grow.

HossC Jun 11, 2014 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WS1911 (Post 6612984)

Here are a few more pictures of Broadway between 2nd and 3rd. I'll start with an undated shot of the California Bank Building. Check out Beaudry's previous post about these buildings here.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...forniaBank.jpg
Huntington Digital Library

A longer shot of the old B F Coulter Building in 1953. FredH recently posted another pre-demolition picture here.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...erBuilding.jpg
Huntington Digital Library

The old B F Coulter Building had gone by 1954. The Million Dollar Theater can be seen in the background.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...llBroadway.jpg
Huntington Digital Library

This is the parking lot created by the demolition of the B F Coulter Building, seen here in 1959. A couple of buildings on Hill and Olive are visible through the gap.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...erBldgGap1.jpg
Huntington Digital Library

I thought I'd turn this last shot into a "then and now".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
GSV

WS1911 Jun 11, 2014 5:15 PM

Broadway between 2nd and 3rd
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6613713)
Here are a few more pictures of Broadway between 2nd and 3rd. I'll start with an undated shot of the California Bank Building. Check out Beaudry's previous post about these buildings here.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...forniaBank.jpg
Huntington Digital Library


Thanks for posting these great pictures. In the above photo, the Bicknell building is not there. I think it was put up around 1890-92 right next to the Potomac Block, thus dating the photo. I was a kid in the 1950s and just too young to get around and see all these wonderful old buildings at the end of their lives.

Two of my very favorite structures were the California Bank building and the Bryson Block. They were such picturesque buildings with their bay windows, towers and profuse decoration. And I think they were designed by one or both of the Newsom brothers.

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ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2014 6:52 PM

Here's a detailed description of the interior of the Boston Store from the Oct. 4, 1895 Los Angeles Herald.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/850/b6kx.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/850/lhjv.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/850/slni.jpg
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1

The 'fair' I mentioned was probably put on by the wholesalers on the Fourth floor.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/840/t9k7.jpg
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/829/imwr.jpg
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/829/c2ix.jpg
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1


To read the entire article (that includes a detailed description of the facade) go here:
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...arRange&page=1



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/850/3qty.jpg
www.-scf.usc.edu
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Andys Jun 11, 2014 7:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6612968)
-origins of Country Club Drive, Burbank


Here are some of the cabins located on the country club grounds.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/837/x9ce.jpg
http://wesclark.com/burbank/


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/822/3o7n.jpg
http://wesclark.com/burbank/


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/853/v2xq.jpg
http://wesclark.com/burbank/


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/rumw.jpg
http://wesclark.com/burbank/


some homes along C C Drive

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...0/853/exgj.jpg
GSV



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/829/j2bk.jpg
zillow.com


I tried to find the remnants of the original Sunset Canyon Club House using Google Earth but I didn't have much luck.

This was an interesting area. Country Club Drive eventually led to Sunset Basin Road
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...0/840/hwp0.jpg
Google Earth

I guess this is for run-off after heavy rains.

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Back in the 1970's, a young woman I worked with in Burbank, owned one of the old cabins along Country Club Drive. It definately had charm, in a rustic sort of way. Very narrow canyon, as I recall.

Andys

Engine54 Jun 11, 2014 10:44 PM

Historical Walks
 
Hi guys and I hope all of you are well. I've been a member on the page for a while, but have never had an opportunity to post. I love all of the historic discussions and images. I produce a local news series and among all of the subjects we cover, we do a segment where L.A. (mostly old L.A.) is celebrated called "Raul's L.A." The reporter, Raul Moreno, is also a member here as well. I thought I'd post one of his segments for your enjoyment. In this one, his first with us, we head over to Angelino Heights. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bij2zzopILw

Tourmaline Jun 11, 2014 11:05 PM

:previous: Nicely done.


;)
824 E. Kensington Rd: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=13517

Moxie Jun 11, 2014 11:12 PM

Thanks for posting that, Engine54. I'm in the process of buying a Victorian house myself (and am a Victorian historian), so I have much love for that vintage. :)

Engine54 Jun 11, 2014 11:34 PM

I have a number of these historic pieces we've done and I'll start posting them for everyone's enjoyment. Those Victorian homes are just breathtaking.

Albany NY Jun 11, 2014 11:40 PM

Yucky, yucky peas
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 6613658)
Interesting, I don't recall ever seeing any sweet peas in Los Angeles.
In upstate New York my parents used to grow them around our property.
They're very colorful and the more you pick them, the more they grow.

I live in upstate NY (Albany, to be exact), and I have a ton of sweet peas growing in my yard. Martin Pal is right....the more you pick them, the more they grow. Too bad I can't stand sweet peas! :yuck:

FredH Jun 11, 2014 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JScott (Post 6613403)
Oooh, cool! There's 224 South Olive[/URL] up on Bunker Hill in the background. August, 1965 – that would make this the latest-dated photo of the place I've yet seen. Judging by the laundry that's hung out to dry on the porch of the bottom floor flat, it looks to be still occupied at the time, too.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...pse0e72b4f.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/7667/rec/15

Here is a little closer view:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps24e8f9ce.jpg
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/7667/rec/15

I recognized the incinerator from this photo I posted a while back. This was taken from Clay Street in July,1961.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps11d3c819.jpg
http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c.../id/6274/rec/4

Hollywood Graham Jun 12, 2014 1:17 AM

Raul's L.A. was pretty good, I look forward to seeing more of him on L.A. Noir. Good stuff Chin, keep them coming.


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