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Godzilla Apr 26, 2017 10:43 PM

:previous:


I recall a few Gasometer images related to Ducommon St. None of them deal directly with the skinny structure, but maybe they could lead to something relevant. :shrug:




http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...68528/rec/9995


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23627


http://wwww.dkse.net/david/NYE51/Gas.Holders.jpg





http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3585


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1295/...296cd7b1_b.jpg

ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2017 11:22 PM

Yep, this again.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/2K7QV3.jpg
detail

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality
I guess Larry Finley opened 'his own place' after his stint at the Mocambo.

:previous:Nope, I was wrong.

'My Own Place' was actually before his stint at the Mocambo and it only lasted a year and a half at the 8517 location. (hence the lack of photos)

Here's an excerpt from a profile in the Oct. 1967 issue of Billboard Magazine.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...924/nU4tfh.jpg
https://books.google.com/books?id=8i...lboard&f=false

So now I'm curious this King's Restaurant on Santa Monica Blvd.....has it been seen on NLA yet?


side-note:
The only King's Restaurant I could find in the city directories was a location at
5909 Pacific Boulevard in Huntington Park. :shrug:
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HossC Apr 27, 2017 8:04 AM

:previous:

Martin Turnbull's site lists "The King’s Restaurant" at 8153 Santa Monica Blvd, possibly in the 1940s. He says the restaurant was " where nightclub employees and the occasional cheeky, trysting movie star, claimed as their hangout."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...estaurant1.jpg
www.martinturnbull.com

Otis Criblecoblis Apr 27, 2017 8:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustifer (Post 7785735)
Edd briefly got sideways with the Warner Bros. over his contract renewal. As a result, he was dropped from the show for a few episodes. Public outcry was so great that he was QUICKLY re-installed and promoted to detective status along with Stu and Jeff. In the interim, Robert Logan filled as parking attendant JR Hale and usually spoke in abbreviations, causing the listener to snap their fingers for a translation. Very odd.

With Kookie gone, Roscoe (Louis Quinn) and Suzanne (Jacqueline Beer) had their usually small roles pumped up a bit to fill in the absence of Edd Byrnes.

As a result of this discussion, I've just started renewing my acquaintance with 77 Sunset Strip after 50 years or so, recording it off the air from Me-TV. It's in the third season right now, with Kookie already a PI, and I'm enjoying it greatly.

Rustifer Apr 27, 2017 2:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 7786672)
As a result of this discussion, I've just started renewing my acquaintance with 77 Sunset Strip after 50 years or so, recording it off the air from Me-TV. It's in the third season right now, with Kookie already a PI, and I'm enjoying it greatly.

Excellent! Keep me up to speed on your progress. I've been looking for some corresponding commentary on 77 Sunset Strip from other subscribers here. I think it fits the thread's "noirish" theme perfectly.

I suspect my fascination with the show is due to the ability for me to relive my younger years (think: early teens) and the anticipation of each new episode on Friday nights. Old guys like me have a tendency to start looking backwards rather than forwards. As I've mentioned in the past, I grew up in Indiana so 77SS and the whole LA area seemed to me to be the epitome of cool--unlike the cornfields of my state.

I was overjoyed when MeTV began broadcasting the reruns, even though I have most of the episodes on DVDs--which were not easy to find 10 years ago.
There's a really good episode coming up in the next week or so where each of the cast members recount their own version of how Bailey & Spencer got started. I believe it's called "Once Upon a Caper". It is hilarious. Do yourself a favor and mix up a batch of martinis, light up a menthol and sit back and enjoy!

LA_CITY_GUY Apr 27, 2017 3:27 PM

Historic Westlake District Heather Apartment Building Built in 1910 Burns Down
 
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https://tribktla.files.wordpress.com...=all&strip=all

LA_CITY_GUY Apr 27, 2017 4:08 PM

Historic Westlake District Heather Apartments Built in 1910 Burns Down

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a1&oe=59C02E0Fhttps://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...2f&oe=59965D65

tovangar2 Apr 27, 2017 4:32 PM

:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6860562)
I don't believe we've seen this unique apartment building at 666 S. Bonnie Brae (just off Wilshire Boulevard).

1978
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/tWgIm7.jpg
Anne Laskey at http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4961087

I was pleasantly surprised to see that it still stands! (it reminds me of some of the places on Bunker Hill)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/LfR6Hi.png
GSV
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 6860686)
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8626/...93d75a79_o.png
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7573/...c2bd82a6_b.jpg

666 is marvelous and wonderfully intact—it BETTER get landmarked, and soon. It's an important piece of the Bonnie Brae fabric, and one of our few unmolested Mission apartment buildings (they always tend to lose their parapets and towers and so on). It was built in 1910 and designed by Charles C. Rittenhouse, AKA first Mayor of Tropico (Glendale) and who built about thirty-forty structures around LA. Rittenhouse was quite gifted and that he's largely forgotten now needs to be rectified. (And yes, this does have a certain Bunker Hill quality to it in its massing....

From the alley:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Wj...=w1018-h622-no
gsv, feb 2017


Video Link

HossC Apr 27, 2017 4:33 PM

:previous:

666 S Bonnie Brae Street may have started out as the Heather Apartments, but then became the Lange Apartments around 1916. That name only stuck for a few years, because the 1921 CD lists them as the Mory Apartments - a name that appears in the CDs up until 1960 (no name is given after that).

There are a few more details of the fire at ktla.com.

Rustifer Apr 27, 2017 4:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otis Criblecoblis (Post 7786672)
As a result of this discussion, I've just started renewing my acquaintance with 77 Sunset Strip after 50 years or so, recording it off the air from Me-TV. It's in the third season right now, with Kookie already a PI, and I'm enjoying it greatly.

By the way, you can find a complete list of the shows and their season here:

http://epguides.com/77SunsetStrip/http://epguides.com/77SunsetStrip/

Rustifer Apr 27, 2017 4:59 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=77+s...WzIpM:&spf=384

Dino's in it's heyday, next to fictitious address 77 Sunset Strip. For a long time, even though Dino's and the office building next door had been razed, the drive-through parking area (where Kookie lingered to park the restaurant guests' cars) between the two buildings survived...at least long enough for me to visit and walk through it to imagine what it was like 50 years ago. Now it's all gone, replaced by the very ugly Millenium Project of condos and apartments. No charm whatsoever.

(one of these days, I'm going to figure out how to make a photo actually appear in my posts, dagnabbit!)

Blaster Apr 27, 2017 5:20 PM

I always loved the announcer's commanding voice at the beginning of 77 SUNSET STRIP, MAVERICK and all the other Warner Brothers shows of that era -

"From the entertainment capital of the world, this is a Warner Brothers television presentation".

The announcer, it turns out was Ed Reimers who was also the guy who told us we were in good hands with All-State.

HossC Apr 27, 2017 5:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustifer (Post 7787109)

(one of these days, I'm going to figure out how to make a photo actually appear in my posts, dagnabbit!)

Was this the image you wanted? Send me a PM if you'd like help posting images.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4/LADinos1.jpg
Pinterest

Martin Pal Apr 27, 2017 6:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7786329)
'My Own Place' was actually before his stint at the Mocambo and it only lasted a year and a half at the 8517 location. (hence the lack of photos)
_________________________________________________________________

E_R, thanks for finding that further information about My Own Place.
That explains a few things. (P.S.: The address was 8514 or 8516, but not across the street at 8517! ;))


Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7786329)
So now I'm curious this King's Restaurant on Santa Monica Blvd.....has it been seen on NLA yet?

side-note:
The only King's Restaurant I could find in the city directories was a location at
5909 Pacific Boulevard in Huntington Park. :shrug:
_________________________________________________________________


I did a post about "The Kings Restaurant" with some menus, ads, history and a couple different postcards here:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21050

HossC Apr 27, 2017 7:06 PM

I thought this was going to be another single-image Julius Shulman post. It's "Job 4275: Flewelling and Moody, Concord Apartments (Pasadena, Calif.), 1967".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

Getty Research Institute

A note in the description suggested looking at another set. "Job 4445: Flewelling and Moody, Two Buildings (Calif.), 1969" contains a few more images, including these color ones.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

Here's a close-up.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

Both from Getty Research Institute

You'll find the Concord Pasadena at 275 Cordova St, Pasadena. Apart from the TV dishes and the height of the trees, nothing appears to have changed much.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
GSV

AlvaroLegido Apr 27, 2017 7:14 PM

Noirish audio is back
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7783730)
Still searching for a photograph of the elusive M. O. P. folks.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/WCpVei.jpg

The noirish mood comes not only by photos or everything visual. It comes too by the sound. The microphone in this poster is an RCA 44. It is a ribbon microphone. It appeared by the early Thirties and disappeared by the mid Fifties, replaced by dynamic and condenser microphones which were less fragile, easier to use and sounded more modern and Hi-Fi. Only that they don't have that smooth and poetical sound that we hear in 1930s/1940s records, movies soundtracks or radio broadcasts. Fortunately, manufacturers since about fifteen years are recreating these old ribbon microphones as they were really missing in recording studios. Among the ribbon microphones, the RCA 44 is the most popular. Not only for its sound (the best ribbon sound) but for its attractive look.

MichaelRyerson Apr 27, 2017 7:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustifer (Post 7786877)
Excellent! Keep me up to speed on your progress. I've been looking for some corresponding commentary on 77 Sunset Strip from other subscribers here. I think it fits the thread's "noirish" theme perfectly.

I suspect my fascination with the show is due to the ability for me to relive my younger years (think: early teens) and the anticipation of each new episode on Friday nights. Old guys like me have a tendency to start looking backwards rather than forwards. As I've mentioned in the past, I grew up in Indiana so 77SS and the whole LA area seemed to me to be the epitome of cool--unlike the cornfields of my state.

I was overjoyed when MeTV began broadcasting the reruns, even though I have most of the episodes on DVDs--which were not easy to find 10 years ago.
There's a really good episode coming up in the next week or so where each of the cast members recount their own version of how Bailey & Spencer got started. I believe it's called "Once Upon a Caper". It is hilarious. Do yourself a favor and mix up a batch of martinis, light up a menthol and sit back and enjoy!

Just wanted to note Edd Byrnes' early life was not a happy affair. Really a sad childhood followed by a harrowing young adulthood. I certainly don't begrudge him whatever success he enjoyed from the TV show and subsequent opportunities, however cheesy.

John Maddox Roberts Apr 27, 2017 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustifer (Post 7787109)
https://www.google.com/search?q=77+s...WzIpM:&spf=384

Dino's in it's heyday, next to fictitious address 77 Sunset Strip. For a long time, even though Dino's and the office building next door had been razed, the drive-through parking area (where Kookie lingered to park the restaurant guests' cars) between the two buildings survived...at least long enough for me to visit and walk through it to imagine what it was like 50 years ago. Now it's all gone, replaced by the very ugly Millenium Project of condos and apartments. No charm whatsoever.

(one of these days, I'm going to figure out how to make a photo actually appear in my posts, dagnabbit!)

I just click "open image in a new tab" and it pops right up.

ethereal_reality Apr 27, 2017 11:46 PM

The Hollywood Knickerbocker Hotel broke ground yesterday (Wed.) for its new Sun and Cabana Club to be constructed adjoining the hotel. [June 8, 1955]

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 7784618)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7269/8...97db7efa_o.jpgGroundbreaking at the Hollywood Knickerbocker Hotel, 1955

Participating in the rites were: (left to right) Herman B. Sarno, hotel president; Film starlets Heidi Heidemann, Beverly Anderson, and Kathy Marlowe; Comedian Jack Carson; Film Actress Connie Towers; and Singing star Byron Palmer.

For some reason photographs of the pool area ('Sun & Cabana Club') are few and far between.


Here's the first one I found...it's a bit blurry.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/R6ICh4.jpg
postmarked 1961 / www.cardcow.com

I'm pretty sure that's Ivar Avenue on the far side of that wall on the left.


below: The pool area is gone, but I believe it used to be where this one story building with an inflatable roof is today.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Y4z87C.jpg
gsv

:previous: hmm...there isn't a pool inside that building, is there....?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/bBStlH.jpg
google_earth / NORTH is at top




And here's the second image of the Knickerbocker pool area.

I believe we're looking north and slightly east, right?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/Y6fvHU.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/487936940854794606/ sorry for the blurriness.

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For comparison, here is the pool area of the nearby Hollywood Plaza Hotel during the same time period.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/xl0mo7.jpg
ebay

I'm pretty sure the Hollywood Plaza is now a retirement home (like the Knickerbocker) so they probably tookthe pool out...

but it's difficult to tell for all the palm trees.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/LiheHD.jpg

Pool or no pool, it's great all those trees are still there. -especially for the elderly tenants.
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update:
Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2
In 1973 the pool was filled in and the hotel converted to senior housing.
The building's owner, Robert Stern, grandson of Jacob, resisted
advice to grub out the palms for additional parking.
The date palms still stand, 50 to 60 feet tall and 111-years old.

here's the link to t2's post from 2012: (it covers much more than the Hollywood Plaza palms)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11094

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Flyingwedge Apr 28, 2017 1:04 AM

Hotel Figueroa, 1888-1926
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6436973)

I wasn't aware of an earlier Hotel Figueroa, this one at Fig & 16th:


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s...2520PM.bmp.jpgUSCDL

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-J...2520PM.bmp.jpgLA Herald, Dec 7, 1892


The January 1, 1888, Los Angeles Herald listed recent buildings by local architects, and R. B. Young's work included
this, which I'm reasonably sure is the Hotel Figueroa:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...8.jpg~original

CDNC


January 10, 1888, Los Angeles Times:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...t.jpg~original

ProQuest via LAPL


In 1888, 16th Street east of Figueroa was called Pine Street (west of Figueroa it was Rouland Street [that's according
to the Sanborn Map, but it may have actually been Rowland]), but of course now 16th Street is called Venice Blvd. The
bridge connecting the main and rear buildings is unusual:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...n.jpg~original

1888 Sanborn @ ProQuest via LAPL


1890 LA City Directory:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...n.jpg~original

fold3.com


1906 Sanborn:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...j.jpg~original

ProQuest via LAPL


This undated photo looks NE at the Hotel Figueroa:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...o.jpg~original

Islandora (link not always available)


The Hotel Figueroa's demo permit ("Demolish + remove from lot") is dated June 18, 1926:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...j.jpg~original

LADBS


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