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CityBoyDoug

Jul 20, 2014 7:53 PM

Mia.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6662141)

Culinary Invention Claims From the L.A. Area
The French Dip Sandwich - by Phillipe Mathieu (Phillipe Restaurant, L.A., 1918)
The Cheeseburger - Lionel Sternberger (Rite Spot Restaurant, Pasadena, 1924)
The Hot Fudge Sundae - at C.C. Brown's (Hollywood)
The Shirley Temple & the Cobb Salad - at L.A.'s Original Brown Derby (Hollywood)

The History of Eating Out in Los Angeles
Origins of Some Local Food Empires
1926 - Orange Julius, Julius Freed, Los Angeles
1941 - Carl's Hot Dog Stand (Carl's Jr.), Carl Karcher, Los Angeles
1948 - In-N-Out, Harry Snyder, Baldwin Park
1948 - Winchell's Donuts, Verne Winchell, Temple City
1952 - Fatburger, Lovie Yancey, Los Angeles
1958 - IHOP, Al Lapin, Toluca Lake
1958 - Sizzler, Culver City
1961 - Wienerschnitzel, John Galardi, Long Beach,
1962 - Taco Bell, Glen Bell, Downey
1972 - The Cheesecake Factory, David Overton, Los Angeles
1972 - Gladstone's 4-Fish, Robert Morris, Malibu
1982 - Islands, Tony DeGrazier, West Lost Angeles
1983 - Panda Express, Ming-Tsai Cherng and son, Andrew Cherng, Pasadena

:previous: Lists from http://www.laalmanac.com/history/hi08r.htm

What, no Tom's # 49, Ca. Pizza Kitchen and W. Puck spinoffs? :uhh:

Two world famous eating establishments were oddly missing from the above list:

McDonald's....the McDonald brothers, San Bernardino, CA....1940

Bob's [The Big Boy]....Bob Wian, Glendale, CA....1936

Another runner-up might be the Tiki craze and the Zombie cocktail. Both of these were sort of invented by Don Beach, at his Don the Beachcomber restaurant in Hollywood, circa 1936.

Francis Langford, the famous Hollywood singer and movie star, transplanted the Tiki theme to her restaurant The Outrigger in the 1950s. It was located in her hometown of Jensen Beach, FL.

Godzilla

Jul 20, 2014 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6662305)

I've also seen claims that the Margarita cocktail was invented by Johnny Durlesser while he was head bartender at the Tail o' the Cock restaurant. He's obviously in a long line of claimants, some of whom can be found here.

:previous: I think that was a "starter" list.

Moscow Mule? http://liquor.com/articles/behind-th...e-moscow-mule/

Then there are the other starter lists for other firsts, e.g., inventions, fashion trends, art and even politics (Major Shaw?).:surrender:

Lwize

Jul 20, 2014 8:28 PM

The Original Tommy's should be on the LA list - 1946
Ptomaine Tommy's (unrelated) supposedly invented the chili burger in the 1920's in Lincoln Heights.

Both Phillipe's and Cole's P.E. Buffet claim to have invented the French dip sandwich in the early 20th Century.

HossC

Jul 20, 2014 8:46 PM

:previous:

Baskin Robbins was founded in Glendale in 1945. Also, fortune cookies were almost certainly invented in California, although there's a ferocious debate between San Francisco and Los Angeles.

CityBoyDoug

Jul 20, 2014 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lwize (Post 6662346)

I thought about adding Tommy's. Good that you did, Lwize.

Founder Tommy Koulax standing in front.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pse57fd693.jpg
Tommy's archives

ethereal_reality

Jul 20, 2014 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6661949)

Back to the drawing board.
http://waterandpower.org/Historical_...lane_Crash.jpg http://waterandpower.org/Historical_...lane_Crash.jpg

Here's another view of the crash Tourmaline.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...913/bc70e2.jpg
-from a series of glass negatives found on ebay.

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ethereal_reality

Jul 20, 2014 11:25 PM

One last look at the photo that started the municipal dump conversation.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...743/8a073d.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6661614)

:previous: That picture is definitely East Washington Boulevard because it shows the General Motors Truck Co at 1850 East Washington Boulevard.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...cipalDump1.jpg
USC Digital Library

_____

This is too cool...
I just found a photograph that show the buildings across from the General Motors Truck Co.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/90ba55.jpgold file of mine

The gate itself is missing, and an obelisk has appeared in the middle of the entrance.

detail
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...901/36c742.jpg

It looks like the prominent building has Richfield Oil Company of California written below it's cornice. There's a gas station on the corner as well.

I'll try one more slightly closer look.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...539/7c4ea8.jpg

The other building's rooftop sign says Junior (obviously), but I'm not sure about the word that follows.

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HossC

Jul 21, 2014 12:23 AM

:previous:

The sign says "Junior-Norris". Junior-Norris Galvanizing Inc was based at 1823 E Washington Boulevard (according to the 1932 CD). BTW, I did mention that the picture I posted yesterday of the General Motors Truck Co was part of a set with different views of the intersection. Here's a sharper view of the Richfield gas station and some of the buildings. I also like the hanging GMC sign on the left.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...cipalDump4.jpg
Detail of picture at USC Digital Library

Albany NY

Jul 21, 2014 12:31 AM

Oh, won't you be my neighbor?

Albany NY

Jul 21, 2014 12:34 AM

Oh, won't you be my neighbor?

Krell58

Jul 21, 2014 4:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6661841)

Anyone remember Nixon's Family Restaurants?

http://www.afoodbank.org/NewsAndEven...240&h=180&as=1 http://www.afoodbank.org/NewsAndEven...240&h=180&as=1

I wonder if Donald ever said, "I am not a cook".

TangoJuliet

Jul 21, 2014 4:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krell58 (Post 6662719)

I wonder if Donald ever said, "I am not a cook".

:lmao:

GaylordWilshire

Jul 21, 2014 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albany NY (Post 6662536)

It looks to me like the photo of the three Mrs. Hong's was taken in the back yard of 1039 (the house next door). Notice that the detail around the 2nd floor windows matches, as does the underside of the roof eaves. The details of the entryway and first floor windows of the house has changed over the years, but it also looks to be the driveway in which Jr. showed off his Ford. Maybe a simple clerical error in noting the Hong's address?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6507163)

Mabel Hong--Mrs. Y. C.--in the back yard of 1045 S Gramercy, which is the not the house in the background...no indication which of the three ladies is Mrs. Hong.

In a shot similar to the one of his father with Hupmobile, here's Y.C.'s son Nowland with his '49 Ford and his brother Roger:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-J...2520PM.bmp.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpg HDL/HDL

Not that it matters much...but if you look closely, you will see the southwest corner of 1039, with the tall hedge between its driveway and the back yard of 1045. If you were to look in CDs from the '30s into the '60s, you will find Y C Hong listed at 1045 S Gramercy, so it seems unlikely to have been a clerical error of several decades' standing; also, if you check the LA Times, you will find an obituary for Y C Hong's mother in 1937 that gives his address as 1045. As for the second shot, if you look at the house closest to the driveway in the shot of Nowland (a graduate of U.S.C. law school) and his Ford, you will see that it is not 1039 S Gramercy... I'm not sure why you assume that "The details of the entryway and first floor windows of the house has changed over the years." All of the houses to the north of 1039 appear to be remarkably original, of similar vintage, and with even setbacks. The houses on the far side of the Ford don't match at all.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-b...2520AM.bmp.jpgGSV
Y.C. Hong's 1045 S Gramercy is the leftmost house, with 1039 next door

ethereal_reality

Jul 21, 2014 2:39 PM

I spy a sidewalk clock.

Hamburger''s Department store all gussied up for the visiting Shriners.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/4e86bf.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/539/303067.jpg
lacity.org

Here's a closer look.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/539/b15a67.jpg

...street scene and Anita Cream. :)

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ethereal_reality

Jul 21, 2014 3:10 PM

Recently I posted blue tinted (from glass negs) photographs of early Los Angeles fire fighting apparatus-

The seller has added a couple more on ebay. They're pretty amazing.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/9d2f4a.jpg

-ladder truck
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/631/c89e03.jpg

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Tourmaline

Jul 21, 2014 3:59 PM

Tourmaline

Jul 21, 2014 4:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6662960)

I spy a sidewalk clock.

Hamburger''s Department store all gussied up for the visiting Shriners.

Here's a closer look.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/539/b15a67.jpg

...street scene and Anita Cream. :)

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Tourmaline

Jul 21, 2014 4:35 PM

ethereal_reality

Jul 21, 2014 5:04 PM

:previous: Excellent photographs Tourmaline. I've never seen Oliver's Cafe before. Can you imagine the interesting smells emanating from that place?
That last photo t makes me want to go inside (but I'd avoid the Tripe Italian Style).

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Godzilla

Jul 21, 2014 5:45 PM

:previous:Ken's Burgers left me scratching my head regarding the last time I did not have to ask for drinking water. Might have saved on a lot of cups.

Easy on the flouride?
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0
http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0 http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...id/11592/rec/5

1929 - The Pantages makes self-hydration elegant.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater1/00014735.jpg http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater1/00014735.jpg

1937 - Possibly Arroyo Seco Park, now known as Hermon Park, 5566 Via Marisol in Montecito Heights.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098089.jpg http://jpg1.lapl.org/00098/00098089.jpg

1937 - Pershing Square
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics45/00072143.jpg http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics45/00072143.jpg

Westlake/MacArthur Park woman at drinking fountain. (No cellphone service?)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics02/00010708.jpg http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics02/00010708.jpg

Have a sip in this unidentified theater lobby.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater3/00015785.jpg http://jpg2.lapl.org/theater3/00015785.jpg

Still Parched?

1937 - Westport Beach Club, 7301 Vista Del Mar in Playa del Rey. Gone in '84.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00096/00096798.jpg http://jpg1.lapl.org/00096/00096798.jpg

And if you "caint" find a fountain and don't trust the local zanja . . .

115 South Spring Street - The Fountain Saloon Proprietors: L. B. Wood and J. R. Smith. (Wishbone and Cookie highly recommend the place.)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011861.jpg http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011861.jpg

hpepperdine

Jul 21, 2014 7:37 PM

"It wasn't as though George Pepperdine wound up on Skid Row; he died at the commodious 1614 Wellington Road."

This is not accurate and would have benefited from further research. My grandfather passed away bankrupt. He was able to stay in this house because he signed ownership over to the university before he declared bankruptcy. If not for that, he and my grandmother would have had to move to another location. Upon my grandmother's death, the university sold the house and auctioned off everything in the house. All the money went to the university.

Godzilla

Jul 21, 2014 7:44 PM

HossC

Jul 21, 2014 8:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6661614)

The truck in the image below is roughly where the dump entrance would be a few years later. The sign is for the Blue Diamond Corp which is listed at 1650 S Alameda (a couple of blocks north) in the 1932 CD. They were in the building materials and supplies business, so it's possible this was their yard just south of their office.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...cipalDump2.jpg
Detail of picture at USC Digital Library

With the municipal dump still fresh in our minds, I thought I'd revisit the Blue Diamond Corp. The Blue Diamond Corp seems to have started off as the Blue Diamond Plaster Co at 2200 E 16th. Their entry in the 1917 CD (the first I could find) was only one line, but by 1923 they had become the Blue Diamond Materials Co, Inc with a half-page advert.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mondAd1923.jpg
LAPL

Their first listing at 1650 S Alameda appears in the 1926 CD, and they are first listed as the Blue Diamond Corp in the 1932 CD, but by then they had reverted to single line adverts. The one below is taken from the 1938 CD. They continue to appear in the City Directories until the late 1960s.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mondAd1938.jpg
LAPL

The picture below shows an aerial view of Blue Diamond Plaster Company (USC's description), and is dated circa 1930. The large excavations may be why the area was chosen as the site of the municipal dump. Near the center they still had stables, even though USC has several pictures of their heavy duty delivery trucks, some with solid tires. They also had their own Blue Diamond baseball diamond!

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...mondAerial.jpg
USC Digital Library

The steel plant doesn't appear on the aerial view above, so I tried to figure it out from the 1961 aerial view I posted here. I think it was built behind the general offices on Alameda Street. This one is dated 1931, and is part of a set.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...amondPlant.jpg
USC Digital Library

The 1921 Baist map shows the area of the Blue Diamond Corp/municipal dump to be mostly empty, although there are a couple of buildings labeled "Blue Diamond Plaster Co" next to the railroad tracks (that must have been related to the 2200 E 16th Street address).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alDumpMap1.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com

Using Google Maps and Historic Aerials I've overlaid the routes of East Washington Boulevard between Alameda and Santa Fe (below). USC has a constuction picture of the first extension of Washington Boulevard here. This picture itself only shows a big trench with a few industrial structures in the background, but the description is quite interesting:

"Looking over the excavation at the end of Washington Street at Alameda which city council paid $75,000 for right of way. Washington street would start in the center of the photo and continue straight over the gully." -- typed noted attached to verso, dated 12 September 1931. "Photo shows the gravel pit on the East Side which the city purchased for $175,000 and apparently cannot use. Diagram shows plans for extension of Washington street between Alameda and Alameda and Santa Fe." -- Examiner clipping attached to verso, dated 18 September 1931. "'Hole-in-the-ground' to cost city still more" -- Examiner clipping attached to verso, dated 5 October 1934.

That seems to date the building of the first extension as 1931, which ties in nicely with e_r's original dump pictures. E Washington was still using the lower route in 1961 (see link to the 1961 aerial, above), but the Historic Aerials image from 1972 shows the current route fully in use (the path of the lower route can still be seen quite clearly). I'm guessing that the current route was built in the late 1960s, which is around the end of the Blue Diamond Corp at that location.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...alDumpMap2.jpg
www.historicmapworks.com

I did a quick search of NLA to check for previous mentions of the Blue Diamond Corp, and found one of my own posts about the Pigeon Hole Garage (the full post is here):

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6452531)

Pigeon Hole Garage.
Under construction at Wilshire and Flower is a six-story garage in which an elevator will lift automobiles to the desired floor and park them in "pigeon hole" stalls. Blue Diamond Corp. is furnishing materials for the structure scheduled to open late next month. Photo dated: September 8, 1953.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...igeonHole3.jpg
LAPL

I assume there's no connection between the Blue Diamond Corp and the Blue Diamond Produce Co which I mentioned in post #19843 when I wrote about the Produce Terminal in the Central Manufaturing District.

GaylordWilshire

Jul 21, 2014 8:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6663344)

I smell trouble.

1932 - East Seventh and Santa Fe Ford Pool Hall

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0

A post with a then and now view:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17599

Quote:

Originally Posted by hpepperdine (Post 6663336)

Well, it sounds like he didn't wind up on Skid Row, if he was fortunate enough to die in a big house, whoever actually owned it.

Godzilla

Jul 21, 2014 8:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6663402)

A post with a then and now view:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=17599

Oops! :blush:

I knew I smelled trouble!

He swore he was the only seller of officially licensed Olympic umbrellas

. . . so I left him to watch my car and wallet.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0

GaylordWilshire

Jul 21, 2014 8:49 PM

:previous:

Not at all...you have great details. Someone else had a post about the Ford pool hall's natural popularity with workers at the Ford assembly plant across the street.... Never easy to find old posts here, with the search tool or on google....

Godzilla

Jul 21, 2014 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6651599)

Unrelated question for those who frequent La Brea at or near Wilshire: I am told that the macadam has a series of parallel cracks for several blocks that strongly resemble the pattern of standard gauge street car tracks. Was there a street car line that ran on La Brea?

Lwize

Jul 21, 2014 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6663573)

I never knew about the squigly nature of S La Brea at San Vicente, but Google maps shows the northern portion of the squiggle is still there (note my incredibly steady red line, hand-moused like a surgeon!). Also, this explains the sharp chizzled fascia of the green circled building on the left, as it would have been on the sharp corner of the street north of the crossing.

http://larry.wizegallery.com/VWV/labrea.jpg
(Google Maps - hosted by me)

JScott

Jul 21, 2014 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6662960)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/4e86bf.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/539/303067.jpg
lacity.org

e_r: Do you maybe have a direct link to this photo? I'd like to get an up-close look at some of the decorative details of the Phillips Block exterior, and maybe get a full-res capture of the whole image, too. Thanks.

Godzilla

Jul 21, 2014 11:46 PM

San Vicente - La Brea continued.

There seems to have been a natural cleft at the intersection. Any known springs or flowing water in that vicinity? I ask because of another well-commented upon slough at Beverly and Vermont.

1928 or later??
http://www.raremaps.com/maps/large/28411.jpg http://www.raremaps.com/maps/large/28411.jpg

HossC

Jul 22, 2014 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6663573)

NE "area" of San Vicente and Fairfax intersection. Green Spray Market

1936

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...nte&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...nte&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...nte&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...nte&DMROTATE=0

1932 Green Spray Market (Another Green Spray at at 10867 Pico Blvd per CD??)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...nte&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...nte&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...nte&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...nte&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/43878/rec/40

Here's a current view of the intersection.
NB. I picked the closest view and rotated it by 25 degrees to match the picture above.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...picFairfax.jpg
Google Maps

As you can see from the Google image, the Green Spray Market building is still there, although it's lost the fancy details at roof level and the first floor now has solid walls. It's now Shalhevet School.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...evetSchool.jpg
GSV

Lwize beat me to the Google Maps view of the San Vicente and La Brea intersection. I also looked at Historic Aerials, and can tell you the bridge was there in 1952, but gone by 1972 with the current road layout in place.

Godzilla

Jul 22, 2014 12:16 AM

HossC

Jul 22, 2014 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6663344)

Around the corner,

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ger&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/54429/rec/69

A current view of the intersection.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7thSantaFe.jpg
GSV

Just to the right down S Santa Fe Avenue is Engine Company No. 17 and the Heinz 57 building, as posted by 3940dxer (see here for the full post - it's well worth it).

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3940dxer (Post 6243539)

I was happy to find that not only does Engine Company No. 17 remain, but also its southern neighbor, the Heinz 57 building, with traces of its "ghost sign" barely visible. Here's a then and now.

http://dkse.net/david/SF.Ave/FS017_1930-000.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/

http://dkse.net/david/SF.Ave/DSCN2965.JPG

Since 3940dxer's cycling tour of LA last summer, the old Heinz building has been smartened up and turned into a restaurant called Fifty Seven. The only external signage seems to be this relatively subtle neon lettering on a pillar.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...FiftySeven.jpg
GSV

GW also wrote about these buildings in post #10023.

Albany NY

Jul 22, 2014 12:19 AM

Even Agent 86 would give a face-palm

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 6662851)

Kudos, GW! I looked again at the backyard photo and realized my mistake. I had always thought that the yard belonged to the house in the background. Taking my insanity one step further, I then wrongly assumed that the photo of Jr. must then be in the driveway of 1039. I think I'll stick to my day job. I'm a regular Maxwell Smart when it comes to sleuthing! Thanks for setting the record straight for me.

Godzilla

Jul 22, 2014 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6663677)

Thank you both for follow ups.Edit. My history of the area is fuzzy. I have a vague recollection of the Green Spray Market being transformed into a hospital. There were once two hospitals in the area, the Midway Hospital and the Westside Hospital listed at 910 S. Fairfax. Could it have been the Westside that once occupied the Green Spray location?

Swink'sBack

Jul 22, 2014 12:34 AM

Roof & Interior of Mary Andrews Clark Residence

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Socko (Post 4613073)

ethereal, those pictures of the downtown YMCA remind me of another building near my home -- one of my favorite buildings in Los Angeles, and relevant to your post because it's a former YWCA. I was surprised to see that one of my favorite blogs, Big Orange Landmarks, did a profile of it and I didn't even know!

Mary Andrews Clark Residence

As Floyd B. Bariscale points out, the building is so large, it's hard to capture in a photograph. So here's the bird's eye view from Bing:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2699/...1d664cd4_o.jpg

The building has appeared in countless movies, and portrayed a mental hospital in at least two that I know of: "Changeling" starring Angelina Jolie, and "The Ring 2" starring Naomi Watts.

A commenter at B.O.L. even posted the building's old phone number! HU 3-5780

Hello again NorishLA. It's me Mr.Swink. I am back with a new handle because for 6 months I have tried to gain access to my old account to no avail. So I created this new one. It's good to be back.

But I was on a location scout for a TV show last year and took these pictures inside the Mary Andrews Clark Residence at Loma and 3rd Street.

All photos property of me.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...a/photo-59.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...a/photo-58.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...a/photo-55.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...a/photo-56.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...a/photo-57.jpg

GaylordWilshire

Jul 22, 2014 12:41 AM

:previous:

Fantastic shots, Mr Swink, and welcome back.

As for Walter Wanger shooting Jennings Lang in the balls and in the process pretty much killing Joan Bennett's career...

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028171.jpg

More here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2426

Albany NY

Jul 22, 2014 12:44 AM

Cheap Eats

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6663058)

I found a forum that was discussing Airport Village. It was apparently at the corner of Centinela and Sepulveda in Culver City. The burger joint was referred to by many in the forum as the Hamburger Handout. The owner, James Collins, later went on to found Sizzlers on the other end of Airport Village.

CityBoyDoug

Jul 22, 2014 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hpepperdine (Post 6663336)

Welcome to Noirish LA and so nice to see your post. Well, what to say, there is nothing like having some information directly from a ''direct source''...so to speak. I hope that doesn't sound too redundant.

Hope to see anything you have to post on your Pepperdine ancestry.

HossC

Jul 22, 2014 1:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6663701)

I have a vague recollection of the Green Spray Market being transformed into what may have been called the Midway Hospital, circa 1948. Although the footprint is the same, I would have assumed (probably in error) that transforming the market into a hospital would have required major upgrades if not a complete rebuild. The addresses are slightly different but this may be due to remodeling and the change of building entrances?

The Midway Hospital is still at 5925 San Vicente, although it's now the Olympia Medical Center. It's a couple of blocks east of the Shalhevet School.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...yHospital1.jpg
GSV

According to an article on subacute.com, "Midway Hospital Medical Center has been providing medical care to its community since 1947." The site also has the picture below, complete with the "Midway Hospital Medical Center" sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...yHospital2.jpg
www.subacute.com

Swink'sBack

Jul 22, 2014 1:05 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6559351)

This post started out as a simple "then and now", but soon grew. This first picture is looking north up Western Avenue at 6th in 1924. The building on the far left is still there, and I'll return to it below.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...thWestern1.jpg
USC Digital Library

A couple of years later and the new Pacific-Southwest Trust and Savings Bank branch on the northeast corner of Western and 6th is nearly finished.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...thWestern2.jpg
USC Digital Library

The signs in the windows indicate that the Sixth & Western branch was still located at 3915 W 6th Street when this picture was taken. Above the entrance is a window advertising the Barnett System of Growing Hair - see below.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

When it opened, the branch was filled with flowers.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...thWestern4.jpg
USC Digital Library

I can't help wondering why they spent money carving the stone above the entrance when it was immediately covered by a large sign.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...thWestern5.jpg
USC Digital Library

Aside from losing its entrance detail, the building is still looking pretty good.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...thWestern6.jpg
GSV

Here's a better view of the building on the southwest corner of the intersection. It's part of the same 1927 set of photos that myself and GW posted pictures from a few pages ago. The first floor looks pretty rough nowadays, but above that it looks like most of the details remain.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...thWestern7.jpg
USC Digital Library

I had a look for information on the Barnett System of Growing Hair. I found references in three City Directories, all at different addresses. The 1923 address puts them in the building I discussed in the picture above.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ettSystem1.jpg
LAPL

I also came across this advert in a 1923 edition of the Berkeley Daily Gazette.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ettSystem2.jpg
news.google.com

Oh, also I was walking around the neighborhood yesterday and noticed they had painted and put up new awnings on this building and the one next to it at Western and 6th Street. The buildings are now a grey with black and white trim and accents.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...a/photo-60.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...a/photo-61.jpg

Godzilla

Jul 22, 2014 1:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 6663731)

The Midway Hospital is still at 5925 San Vicente, although it's now the Olympia Medical Center. It's a couple of blocks east of the Shalhevet School.

According to an article on subacute.com, "Midway Hospital Medical Center has been providing medical care to its community since 1947." The site also has the picture below, complete with the "Midway Hospital Medical Center" sign.

In looking for vintage photos of the hospital it occurred to me that I had a name mix-up. "Westside Hospital" may have been the occupant of the Green Spray's location. Westside's CD listings are for 910 S. Fairfax. I do understand that is not at the corner of F and SV, but it is close. I have amended the prior post to reflect this. I still think there has been a previous posting that contained a glimpse of this hospital. :shrug:

Disappointed Noir fans, need not despair. This could have been where someone who looked like Bogey showed up without an appointment for cosmetic surgery. :koko:

Dark Passage. (Forget that it was set in SF, some of it was shot on the Warner Lot in Burbank.)
http://www.thingsinmovies.com/wp-con...age-bogart.jpg http://filmsnoir.net/wp-content/uplo..._plastsurg.jpg

lemster2024

Jul 22, 2014 1:49 AM

Here are a couple of items that caught my eye on a drive down Whittier Boulevard the other day, almost immediately as one exits the 605: way, way back, there was some discussion about Scrivners Drive Ins and Simons restaurants that were in L.A., with their distinctive towers... so to me, this little building looks too much like a Scrivners to be coincidence..then at the end of the block on the corner, here's a throwback gas station if there ever was one! Just food for thought...
http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/...pse488e6da.jpg

http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/...psb405bbcd.jpg
photos taken by me

Godzilla

Jul 22, 2014 1:55 AM

lemster2024

Jul 22, 2014 2:23 AM

With the discussion a few days back regarding street clocks ('Oh no! Not again!"), I don't recall anyone mentioning the one located at the intersection of Pico and Hoover, just west of downtown, a little north of USC. I don't know that much about it's historical background or whether it is truly vintage, but it's the only one I know of in the heart of the city. If it was mentioned, my apologies for the repeat!

http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8c1eae76.jpg

photo courtesy Google Street view

Tourmaline

Jul 22, 2014 3:47 AM

:previous: Clocks, the more the merrier. Looks fairly new to my untrained eyes.

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Originally Posted by JScott (Post 6663648)

Lorendoc

Jul 22, 2014 6:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 6663781)

The pictures of the Fairfax/Olympic/San Vicente intersection were of interest to me, as my office is very close by. I am on the medical staff of Olympia Medical Center, formerly Midway Hospital.

MH was founded in 1947 by two anesthesiologists, Dr. Leon Tiber and Dr. David Alpert. They chose the name because it was half-way (more or less) between Downtown and the ocean. At the time, it was impossible for Jewish physicians to join the medical staff of any hospital except the Jewish ones: Cedars of Lebanon, and Mt. Sinai, and getting on those was highly competitive. Drs. Tiber and Alpert decided open a 28-bed hospital which was to be open to any qualified physician to join the medical staff. The hospital expanded over the years and went through a series of owners. It is currently operated by Alecto Healthcare LLC.

If you drive by it, you will see that the original main entrance was meant to be off San Vicente. But when the hospital was renamed "Olympia," the marketing people wanted the entrance to be on Olympic Boulevard even though the view from Olympic was not exactly glamorous.

The Shalhevet (="flame" in Hebrew) School is an orthodox Jewish co-ed high school opened in 1992 at the former Westside Hospital (910 S. Fairfax, WEbster 8-3431). Westside Hospital was interesting for two reasons: Marilyn Monroe was hospitalized there for "exhaustion" during the filming of "The Misfits"; and it was the first example of a laboratory/services company acquiring hospitals and running them as if they were franchise restaurants. This was done by "American Laboratories Inc" at the direction of its owner, who rejoiced in the name Uranus J. Appel. His first two hospitals were Westside, and Westlake Hospital (644 S. Alvarado, now a Yoshinoya Beef Bowl).

JScott

Jul 22, 2014 6:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 6663884)

*nods* Yep, the Phillips Block is one of my vanished-L.A. obsessions. What a grand, ornate old building! I'm glad you reminded me of that pic on the USC site. I haven't had a look at it since they introduced that zoom/magnify feature awhile back. Worth another gander now, definitely! Thanks!

Godzilla

Jul 22, 2014 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 6664022)

The pictures of the Fairfax/Olympic/San Vicente intersection were of interest to me, as my office is very close by. I am on the medical staff of Olympia Medical Center, formerly Midway Hospital.

Westside Hospital was interesting for two reasons: Marilyn Monroe was hospitalized there for "exhaustion" during the filming of "The Misfits"; and it was the first example of a laboratory/services company acquiring hospitals and running them as if they were franchise restaurants. This was done by "American Laboratories Inc" at the direction of its owner, who rejoiced in the name Uranus J. Appel. His first two hospitals were Westside, and Westlake Hospital (644 S. Alvarado, now a Yoshinoya Beef Bowl).

Can you confirm whether Westside H. occupied the Green Spray building? (As well as WH building additional structures to the North?) Not being familiar with Westside's inner-workings, was it equipped for performing major surgeries and trauma cases, or did it cater mostly toward a different type of care? The Marilyn connection is an interesting footnote. Was this common knowledge at the time so that other "troubled" celebrities sought sanctuary there (as opposed to other facilities)?

Another view of the same Olympic-Fairfax-San Vicente intersection.

1936
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...pic&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...pic&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...pic&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...pic&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/1408/rec/2

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...pic&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...pic&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...pic&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...pic&DMROTATE=0

Answering my own question regarding what appeared to be small structures at the very top of pic. behind the garages. Looks like a white picket fence in front of which are different shaped shrubs. Is there a story behind how Green Spray got its name?

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...pic&DMROTATE=0 http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...pic&DMROTATE=0

HossC

Jul 22, 2014 4:59 PM

:previous:

Godzilla, I went back to the first aerial view you posted yesterday to get a different perspective. Judging by the shadows, I think we're just looking at short sections of picket fencing interspersed with neatly trimmed bushes.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icFairfax2.jpg
Detail of picture at USC Digital Library

A little more on 910 S Fairfax - in the 1956 CD, before it became Westside Hospital, it's listed as Wilshire Sanitarium. A quick search didn't turn up any additional information.

Following on from Lorendoc's post, I found a site called cursumperficio.net which claims that this is Marilyn Monroe's invoice.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...lynInvoice.jpg
www.cursumperficio.net

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