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DetroitRises Jun 14, 2018 10:21 PM

DETROIT | Ford Michigan Central Station - Corktown Developements
 
Figured we should have a thread for the Ford/MCS news Coming up next week and beyond. It’s going going to change the face of Corktown and the city for years to come.

LMich Jun 15, 2018 5:00 PM

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https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/891...e-depot007.jpg
Robin Buckson | The Detroit News

Central Depot message: 'It will rise from the ashes'

The Detroit News

June 15, 2018

Three days after the iconic structure was sold to the Ford Motor Co., the Michigan Central Depot facade featured two Latin mottos that point to its future.

"Speramus meliora; resurget cineribus" was highlighted across the front of the cavernous,18-story vacant structure on Thursday. Quoting Father Gabriel Richard, pastor of Ste. Anne’s Catholic Church, the first Catholic church in Michigan in 1701, the phrases mean: "We hope for better things; it will rise from the ashes." The mottos reference a fire that destroyed Detroit in 1805, according to http://fgrhs.org.

Ford announced Monday that it had bought the former train depot and plans to anchor its next-generation mobility, autonomy and electrification work in the 104-year-old station.

Manuel "Matty" Moroun's family's real estate arm Central Transport International Inc. sold the depot, acquired in 1992, to the automaker.
We find out about the plans next Tuesday.

Steely Dan Jun 15, 2018 5:10 PM

it's been a LONG time coming, but this is so freaking cool!

i can't believe that this magnificent structure really is going to be reborn into a new life, and serve as a catalyst to revive the area surrounding it.

it's just awesome. it might just be the greatest preservation comeback story ever told.

Busy Bee Jun 15, 2018 5:43 PM

Yeah, this is the definition of 'turning point.' It doesn't seem that long ago that the suggestion of this level of investment in MCS would have been met with a laugh. Now it's real. I will reiterate what many others also believe and hope and that is a desire that in some way the base remains a transportation station and in the future could grow in that function. Many other historic train stations have been relegated to children's museums and banquet halls - not that that is an inherently improper use considering the reality on the ground in some places - but hopefully MCS will at least in some capacity in the future function at least partially in the way it was designed to while having an energetic and dynamic use of space in the offices above.

DetroitRises Jun 15, 2018 5:53 PM

Detroit train station is city's biggest comeback moment yet
 
The Detroit Free Press, 6/15/2018
By John Gallagher
https://www.freep.com/story/money/bu...act/697756002/

Trying to sum up the significance of Ford’s plans for the Michigan Central Station, a quote by Winston Churchill seems apt.

“Now, this is not the end,” Churchill said of an early Allied victory in World War II. “It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”

seabee1526 Jun 15, 2018 9:24 PM

I am hoping for something along the lines of the Ford Rotunda that burned down in Dearborn. This would be great if Ford can make an attraction like the old rotunda was.

LMich Jun 16, 2018 5:54 AM

Tonight's quote on MCS from Ford Motor Co.'s twitter account:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfx0x5MUYAEhN4K.jpg

Honestly, Ford is doing a brilliant, next-level job marketing this renovation.

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Michelle & Chris Gerard

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Michelle & Chris Gerard

ardecila Jun 16, 2018 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 8222326)
Yeah, this is the definition of 'turning point.' It doesn't seem that long ago that the suggestion of this level of investment in MCS would have been met with a laugh. Now it's real. I will reiterate what many others also believe and hope and that is a desire that in some way the base remains a transportation station and in the future could grow in that function. Many other historic train stations have been relegated to children's museums and banquet halls - not that that is an inherently improper use considering the reality on the ground in some places - but hopefully MCS will at least in some capacity in the future function at least partially in the way it was designed to while having an energetic and dynamic use of space in the offices above.

MCS is a terminal station except for trains going to Canada. The Wolverine right now would not use it, as it is not conducive to the current service that extends through the New Center station to Pontiac.

Possibly the Pontiac section could be split out into a local commuter operation like the ever-planned SEMCOG train to Ann Arbor, and all three trains terminated at MCS, but then there's no convenient way to get from MCS to downtown anymore. Detroit would have to build a costly streetcar or something down Michigan Ave. New Center already has the QLine to take riders downtown.

The North One Jun 16, 2018 4:41 PM

An extension of the streetcar onto Michigan Avenue is likely to happen though.

I think in the distant future when Canada gets it's high-speed rail corridor built up a connection to MCS would be great.

Docta_Love Jun 17, 2018 5:31 PM

I have to agree that Bill Ford has really gone ahead and seized and opportunity that became apparent from Detroit's Amazon bid and ran with it. I've been watching the Crain's interview with Bill Ford he envisions "a mobility corridor along Michigan Ave from Corktown to Dearborn and then on to Metro Airport, Willow Run, Ypsilanti & Ann Arbor.

There is a full video interview with Bill Ford available for Crain's subscribers some highlights are:

He recognizes and admits that we are "in a war for talent" and further more that Ford has not invested in it's R&D facilities "when they had opportunities to in the past and then when a down turn came along it was one of the easiest things to cut, this time though we said we are going to invest this money in the future and not touch it". He goes on to detail how the money for this project was already budgeted for in campus improvement plans and how this is one part of a broader plan first detailed in 2016 for Ford to update it's "antiquated facilities".

I like the idea of a high-tech M-12 corridor it's not an entirely new idea but its needed something to kick start it. Ford's redevelopment of MCD and with the creation and integration of a Corktown campus into a broader regional mobility, transportation - logistics & aerospace district along the Michigan Ave axis from Ann Arbor to Detroit is an ambitious goal that would help the region compete better in the digital age.


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Originally Posted by The North One (Post 8223207)
An extension of the streetcar onto Michigan Avenue is likely to happen though.

There were a lot of reasons for eye rolling when Mathew Moroun talked about playing the role Roger Penske did as someone ready and willing to help bring parties to the table for a Michigan Ave street car & possible use of MCD as an inter-modal transit center. But Bill Ford does envision the main concourse area as something like San Francisco's Ferry Terminal and hasn't ruled trains out but says that's not Ford's place.


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Ford's future: Train station to be part of new transportation model

By CHAD LIVENGOOD
Crain's Detroit Business
June 17, 2018

-Ford Motor Co. aims to have 2,500 employees in Corktown
-Wants to renovate the Michigan Central Station by 2022
-Envisions creating a autonomous-vehicle technology hub

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/KY...26d28a621332a3

"I would love for this to be like the Sand Hill Road of Michigan, where entrepreneurs, startups (and) partners all want to come and be part of this creation process," Ford said, referring to the California road where venture capitalists fueled the meteoric rise of Silicon Valley.

"That would be amazing to me, and I think that can happen. Because the future of mobility should be created in Detroit — and I believe it will be."

The automaker's bid to use the derelict train station as the anchor for a 1.2 million-square-foot Corktown campus hinges on getting suppliers and technology companies involved in the development of autonomous vehicles to join them in Detroit.
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Open to the public

The automaker will formally detail its Corktown and train station plans at Tuesday's event — a long-awaited homecoming of sorts for a company Henry Ford founded in Detroit 115 years ago this month.

Ford's last employees left the Renaissance Center in 1996 for Dearborn after the company sold the riverfront skyscrapers developed in the mid-1970s by Henry Ford II to crosstown rival General Motors Co.

Unlike the RenCen, Bill Ford Jr. wants the train station to be accessible to Detroiters and visitors alike.

"It's really important that we become part of the community and that we're not isolated or insulated from it," Ford said.

The goal, Bill Ford said, is to ensure the train station doesn't become "a corporate island."
http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article...ortation-model


Edit; here's an article I picked out of the AP feed.

Quote:

Ford CEO Jim Hackett reveals details about how he's reinventing the 115-year-old car company (F)

-Ford has developed a massive development plan for a new-mobility corridor stretching from Detroit through its revamped headquarters in Dearborn to the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor.
-CEO Jim Hackett is bringing his "design thinking" innovation and management approach to the task of remaking the 100-plus-year-old company.
-Ford has bought a huge, crumbling rail station near downtown Detroit and intends to combine it with a plan to revive the city's Corktown neighborhood to be a center of the carmaker's Smart Mobility efforts.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/Ze...48ebb71ce6a2ee
This is an old rendering (2016) of part the new Dearborn Campus which is still to be built minus the AV/EV groups which will go into MCD & Corktown. As Ford seems to be aiming at a broader scope it seems appropriate to include.

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/H....271e0c7e061067

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-...040100504.html

dc_denizen Jun 17, 2018 7:26 PM

fantastic news!

mind field Jun 18, 2018 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8222282)
it's been a LONG time coming, but this is so freaking cool!

i can't believe that this magnificent structure really is going to be reborn into a new life, and serve as a catalyst to revive the area surrounding it.

it's just awesome. it might just be the greatest preservation comeback story ever told.

Completely agree! Many of us never would have dreamed something like this would happen. I'm so thankful that Ford is investing in Michigan Central Station and look forward to what the details will be during tomorrow's press conference. :cheers::cheers::cheers:

the urban politician Jun 19, 2018 12:16 AM

I’m stoked about the possibilities here. Can’t wait to see what happens!

JonathanGRR Jun 19, 2018 8:40 AM

While not the most notable of stories amidst all of the MCS news, this was certainly a heartwarming read:

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Thief returns train station clock, thanks Ford for believing in Detroit
Phoebe Wall Howard Detroit Free Press | June 19, 2018

A thief who stole a clock that hung on a Michigan Central Station gateway for decades in Detroit reached out to anonymously return the antique timepiece, sending Ford to an abandoned building to retrieve it.

The Henry Ford museum in Dearborn received a phone call Friday afternoon saying that the depot clock existed and wanted to "go home." Museum officials immediately contacted Ford Motor Land Development Corp. and The Ford Archives.

Within hours, text messages were exchanged with the "donor," said Dave Dubensky, chairman and CEO of Ford Land. Ford bought the train station, which closed in 1988 and became a symbol of Detroit's ruin, from the Moroun family and has plans to restore the building.

The exchange went like this:

Thief: "I only have the clock. No other material. I left it leaning against a burned-out building on Lawton. It is between Warren and Buchanan. The building is between the train tracks and 4470 Lawton. Please send two men and a truck immediately. It has been missing for over 20 years and is ready to go home. Thank you so much."

Ford Land: "Thank you! I will try to send a crew right now."

Thief: "Please have them lay it face up in the truck. The paint is very delicate. You can tell the front from the back by looking at the exposed legs."

Ford maintenance workers heading home for the day offered to stop and pick up the item in their large truck. They found the package carefully wrapped in moving blankets leaning against the wall in an overgrown lot with abandoned tires.

...

"This shows just how much emotion is attached to what we’re doing," he said. "This individual went through all this work to return the clock. We'd like to ask any others who might have a piece of history and want to return it to please call, no questions asked. We'll come get the pieces anywhere, anytime."

He provided the number for his assistant Donnell Elwood, 313-322-1092.

"We did have architects and historians familiar with these pieces," Dubensky said. "They looked at paint samples and compared the clock to pictures of the building. They validated it's real this morning."

He added, "We are so happy that this individual reached out to us to return the clock. Thank you. We are grateful to have it in our possession."
...
https://eu.freep.com/story/money/car...ock/710459002/

mrnyc Jun 19, 2018 10:46 AM

just the best news ever. i was expecting it though given detriots resurgence.

animatedmartian Jun 19, 2018 6:49 PM

Video Link

subterranean Jun 19, 2018 7:11 PM

MCS in that video, even if just an animation, has me super excited. It's amazing to me that they have so much thought put into this already, even through the presentation. It's clear this has been on their radar for awhile and the are PR'ing the crap out of it, as well they should. Ford just won over a generation.

Docta_Love Jun 19, 2018 9:17 PM

Well said.

LMich Jun 20, 2018 11:14 AM

It's weird, because Ford has always been the most conservative and least risky of the Big Three. But Bill Ford, Jr. ended up being a really eccentric and unconventional person. His great-grandfather is rolling over in his grave knowing that Bill is going in big on Detroit...and that's a good change. Henry hated urbanism and thus he disliked the hustle-and-bustle of Detroit (it's why the company never left Dearborn), even as his business help drive the city to grow further and further out from tis center. Oh, the irony.

Anyway, 5,000 employees over the next few years is going to be something significant for Corktown, to put it lightly. There weren't even 1,500 in this whole area at the 2010 Census. I'm really interested to see how Ford handles all of this new traffic. Will they run some commuter rail up from behind the station to Dearborn? Will they take their ridersharing service to the next level? Will there be some express service (light rail or bus) on Michigan Avenue? I do hope they aren't planning for everyone to come to work in their individual cars, because even as wide as Michigan is, that'd would be a nightmare.

subterranean Jun 20, 2018 3:48 PM

I guess I don't see the issue there. It's not like the whole of Ford's workforce is coming from Dearborn. They're coming form all over the region. And I think Ford is expecting the new folks to be young people who actually might want to live in Detroit.

deja vu Jun 24, 2018 1:54 PM

This Crain's article is kind of another recap of the potential possibility of, and hurdles related to, reviving MCS as a transportation hub and rethinking Michigan Avenue to accommodate autonomous vehicles .

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Ford's depot positions Michigan Avenue for transit corridor
Chad Livengood | Crain's Detroit Business
June 24, 2018

Bill Ford Jr.'s grand vision of developing a "transportation invention corridor" along Michigan Avenue and I-94 that stretches from the Michigan Central Station in Corktown to Dearborn, Willow Run and Ann Arbor is going to require some grand thinking and probably a pile of public and private money.

Mobility is about to go from being a buzzword to a real situational challenge that confronts Ford Motor Co.'s bid to deploy autonomous vehicle technology from a train depot built when some Detroiters were still getting around town by horse and buggy.

Ford has already deployed its Chariot rideshare vans along Michigan Avenue to shuttle employees between its Dearborn headquarters and its first Corktown building — The Factory — in what could be the precursor of having self-driving vehicles running along the avenue in the coming years...

Busy Bee Jun 24, 2018 2:42 PM

What's with all the deleted posts??? !!! Can the mods just let an organic conversation happen forgodsakes!!! ???

subterranean Jun 25, 2018 2:16 AM

What was deleted?

Wpg_Guy Jul 3, 2018 4:15 AM

This will be stunning.

seabee1526 Aug 15, 2018 2:36 PM

https://www.freep.com/story/money/bu...ion/994867002/

Ford to spend 740 million in Corktown

deja vu Jan 26, 2019 2:30 AM

A new light projection show against the backdrop of the building was recently displayed, as a part of the NAIAS

Video Link

skyfan May 23, 2019 9:42 PM

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Ford did an update and tour on progress at MCS today

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Ford focuses on masonry work in second phase of construction at Michigan Central Depot

Ford Motor Co. said Thursday it is on track on the renovation of the Michigan Central Depot, entering the second of three phases to restore the historic building for part of its $740 million Corktown campus.

The focus of the second phase is restoring eight acres of masonry, an intensive task that will continue until 2021. Crews will also assess and repair the steel structure.

As it begins its second phase, Ford is also working on the master plan for the building, set to be released in a month. Under consideration are a hotel or conference center for the 12th and 13th floors. The focus will be more hospitality, opposed to residential, Bardelli said.

"They will be more public space," he said of the two floors. "It could be a conference center, it could be a hotel. That's what our master plan is going to tell us.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ot/3771584002/

The North One Feb 1, 2020 8:28 PM

The development director speaks on progress and the overall plan of MCS including showing where several new buildings will be built, she also talks about the Michigan Avenue mobility corridor and connection with A2.

Video Link

deja vu Mar 10, 2021 5:03 PM

Drive-by update from a few days ago, courtesy of Youtube Channel "Frankai Videos" -

Video Link

deja vu Mar 10, 2021 5:14 PM

Separately, and if the below link works for you, Ford Land just posted a video on LinkedIn of interview highlights with the the landscape architect, Mikyoung Kim, in which the vision for the site's mobility platform and open spaces is discussed -


deja vu Mar 10, 2021 5:42 PM

And here's a recent aerial view from a week or two ago - MCS is looking kind of two-faced right now -

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t3q89qxbqf..._MCS.jpg?raw=1
Source: Instagram | @fredjproductions

The North One Mar 10, 2021 6:18 PM

Very exciting, this is such a massive undertaking it cannot be overstated. The most impressive and beautiful structure in the US.

Can't wait to see what the new buildings designed by Snøhetta will look like.

Busy Bee Mar 10, 2021 7:25 PM

Good stuff

deja vu Apr 11, 2021 12:21 AM

Just a shot of some of the meticulous tile restoration work that is ongoing inside MCC - it's going to look amazing when finished!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9cj14eg6e...%201.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9jguv11v55...%202.jpg?raw=1
Source: LinkedIn | Ford Land

The North One Apr 25, 2021 4:57 PM

There was 250 cement trucks on site yesterday. Also a massive crane has arrived and I hear it's the largest in the country. There are 500 workers on site now according to sources.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzvISArX...jpg&name=large
https://twitter.com/jeffdebruyn/stat...473729/photo/1

deja vu May 14, 2021 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The North One (Post 9260201)
There was 250 cement trucks on site yesterday. Also a massive crane has arrived and I hear it's the largest in the country. There are 500 workers on site now according to sources.

To build on that, here's a link to a short Vimeo video about the pour, posted by The Christman Company. One cement truck arriving every 3 minutes, over 2,000 CY of concrete, 2 pump trucks running simultaneously - pretty crazy coordination effort!

https://vimeo.com/546067705

deja vu Jun 4, 2021 1:46 AM

Video Link

Randomguy34 Jun 4, 2021 3:29 AM

I'm still surprised no one has brought up this important point mentioned in Amtrak's recent Corridor Vision: https://www.amtrak.com/content/dam/p...ion-052721.pdf

• Extend 1 Wolverine round trip to Toronto using a newly
redeveloped Michigan Central Terminal

deja vu Jun 4, 2021 1:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34 (Post 9301442)
I'm still surprised no one has brought up this important point mentioned in Amtrak's recent Corridor Vision: https://www.amtrak.com/content/dam/p...ion-052721.pdf

• Extend 1 Wolverine round trip to Toronto using a newly
redeveloped Michigan Central Terminal

It has come up a little - but in discussions on the separate transportation thread:

Detroit & Michigan: Go-Town Transportation Lowdown

I haven't seen that full report before though. The momentum for a Detroit to Toronto high speed line has never been higher I think, and it would be great if Michigan Central could serve it.

pianowizard Jun 5, 2021 3:37 PM

That would be wonderful! According to this article, "The last direct train from Detroit to Toronto was in 1967, and that was before Amtrak existed as a corporation, according to CBC." And here's the CBC website being cited: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/winds...onto-1.5084297

But does the Ford Michigan Central Station still have the original tracks and platforms?

The North One Aug 4, 2021 1:31 PM

Video Link

deja vu Sep 1, 2021 1:33 AM

Here's a short video about the ongoing structural restoration & repairs at the station -

https://vimeo.com/578668248/c78d57a804

Rizzo Sep 1, 2021 5:33 AM

Cool video. Couldn’t tell if the floor slabs were structural clay tile between I-beams. They’re solid normally but if even slightly deteriorated, pieces will go flying everywhere the moment you start renovating a space above or drop something very heavy

deja vu Sep 8, 2021 1:23 PM

Some updated renderings were released recently for the walkable mobility innovation district. The Vernor viaduct will be closed starting this week for deconstruction -

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2acgs37k97...%201.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qh83enydkb...%202.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yo8ws9eo8p...%203.jpg?raw=1
Source: LinkedIn | Ford Land

deja vu Sep 10, 2021 6:03 PM

Frankai's September 2021 update (wherein you can see the closure of Vernor)

Video Link

Thirteen Mile Nov 16, 2021 3:22 AM

Incredible amount of work has gone into accurate historical detail from sourcing limestone from the original quarry which closed in the 80’s to 400+ hours of work by one of the few professional carvers left in the industry. Click the photo link to read article.

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Detroitist

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Detroitist

The North One Jan 15, 2022 8:11 PM

Work continues at the Michigan Central Station

https://www.detroitnews.com/picture-...on/9174070002/

Lots of new images, IDK how to resize them for this site so click the link.

The North One Feb 7, 2022 3:34 AM

Google to work with Ford on Detroit research hub

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DETROIT (AP) — Ford Motor Co. announced Friday that Google is joining the automaker’s effort to transform a once-dilapidated Detroit train station into a research hub focused on electric and self-driving vehicles.

Also, Detroit and the state of Michigan have agreed to provide infrastructure and other support for the Michigan Central Innovation District that will include the defunct train depot and other nearby buildings in the historic Corktown neighborhood just outside downtown, officials said.
https://www.koamnewsnow.com/i/google...-research-hub/


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https://nitter.net/pic/media%2FFKw_d...%3Fname%3Dorig
https://nitter.net/DeadlineDetroit/s...576416546817#m

ardecila Feb 7, 2022 4:55 PM

Wow, those Guastavino tiles look incredible. Thanks for posting! I am very excited to see this building when all is completed.

TowerDude Feb 7, 2022 5:42 PM

Are they preserving the ability to use this as an actual train station or is Ford making that impossible?

The primary use of this building should always be as a train station.


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