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tovangar2 Dec 10, 2012 11:35 AM

Progress
 
Thx BRR. I meant to thank you for this before. We've gotta find whoever's drawing these damn maps and lock 'em up.

tovangar2 Dec 10, 2012 12:26 PM

Santa Fe tracks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5931022)
Here is a rare view of the Santa Fe Station from across a flooded Los Angeles River

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/1425/a...indistance.jpg
ebay

I would love to know the story behind the excised person.

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Same or just similar?
http://bridgehunter.com/photos/13/11/131100-L.jpg

caption: "Flood damage to the Santa Fe tracks on the old Downey Avenue Bridge (later North Broadway) during the Los Angeles flood of 1885-1886"

rcarlton Dec 10, 2012 1:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5931885)
Northeast corner of Franklin Ave. and Radio St., 1938. This house was built in 1936.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...77681934_n.jpg
LAPL

The same house today. While I was taking pictures around this intersection with my back to this house, I heard a voice loudly say "You know, you could get the same pictures from Google." I turned around and saw a guy standing on the upper deck, and I told him "yeah, but they wouldn't be as clear." I thought, 'What an asshole.' I took a few more pictures and noticed out of the corner of my eye that he was still standing on the deck. He didn't go back inside the house until he saw me get into my car. Anyway, the address of this house is 3863 Franklin Avenue. It looks nicer in the older photo.
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...43378782_n.jpg
Photo by me

Note how the back end of the car is sticking out of the garage in the old picture. In the new picture they made the garage deeper with what looks like an aluminum shed.

They have a fire hydrant now but no sidewalks. Would hate to mow the front yard. Looks like they had a better idea in the old picture.

GaylordWilshire Dec 10, 2012 5:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5931885)

View down the stairs, called "Radio Walk."
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...96777383_n.jpg
Photo by me


Great tour, sopas. Having actual eyes on the ground makes all the difference.

GaylordWilshire Dec 10, 2012 5:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5931831)
Another 1940 Aerial
From this vantage, I can make out the arched windows in the 271 La Brea building. Flowerland - yes, lots of foliage.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...rea&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...rea&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...rea&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...rea&DMROTATE=0USC Digital[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE]


This article seems to describe the buildings we see among the foilage:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z...3compldate.jpg


Flowerland's next opening was 17 years later in a new location:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D...weradcompl.jpg


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-V...andart1940.jpg



All Los Angeles Times

DouglasUrantia Dec 10, 2012 6:11 PM

The passing of Time.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcarlton (Post 5932141)
Note how the back end of the car is sticking out of the garage in the old picture. In the new picture they made the garage deeper with what looks like an aluminum shed.

They have a fire hydrant now but no sidewalks. Would hate to mow the front yard. Looks like they had a better idea in the old picture.


http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...77681934_n.jpg
LAPL
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...06/carlton.jpg
Photo by sopas ej


Many old garages would not fit a large car like a Cadillac, hence the extension. Plus they've eliminated the downstairs corner window and added some new windows, here and there. That window A/C adds something also....not sure what though. That large Mexican Palmetto is probably not a good choice in that location. These things do grow.

I agree, the ivy is much better.

Thanks sopas ej for the photos and the great ideas 'round town.! Also thanks to R Carlton.

Hollywood Graham Dec 10, 2012 7:17 PM

LAPD Motor Inspection 1942
 
LAPD Motors lined up for inspecion in 1942. Notice flag denoting how many LAPD Officers serving in the armed forces. Also notice the civil defense helmet attached to the rear of the motor cycle. They also carried a gas mask on the batwing faring. The building in back of them is a where the Traffic Div. was housed which was on N. Figueroa.

[IMG]http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/t...sc000ac2e8.jpg[/IMG]




Photo from Sam Flowers collection.

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2012 8:21 PM

Another 'noirish' looking character straight out of central casting.

...on trial for murder.
http://imageshack.us/a/img6/1330/aac...semcdonald.jpg
ebay

http://imageshack.us/a/img607/1330/a...semcdonald.jpg



...his beautiful wife.
http://imageshack.us/a/img708/1330/a...semcdonald.jpg
ebay

http://imageshack.us/a/img404/1330/a...semcdonald.jpg

I wish I knew more details about this intriguing case. I've searched to no avail.
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ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2012 9:07 PM

I found this photograph of 479 East Vernon Avenue on ebay the other day.

http://imageshack.us/a/img831/1306/a...avenotther.jpg

I immediately hopped on the 'googlemobile' and headed over to the 400 block of E. Vernon.

This particular house wasn't there, but there were similar houses that have survived.

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/1391/aa...threehouse.jpg
google street view



The real surprise was this marvelous building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/6996/aab479ev2.jpg
google street view

With it's three bays, my guess is that it used to be a garage of some kind.
There is a multi-story section as well, equally elaborate in architectural detail. (and a modern AT&T addition)

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/2450/aab479ev3.jpg
google street view



http://imageshack.us/a/img856/793/aa...510evernon.jpg
google street view






gang markings arghh! :(

http://imageshack.us/a/img96/5041/aa...10evernona.jpg
google street view





Here's another photo of the architectural detail that I tweaked a bit.

http://imageshack.us/a/img19/4370/aab479ev2a.jpg



From this aerial view, you can see from the rooftop 'mechanics' that the building is in use by AT&T.

http://imageshack.us/a/img845/8869/a...baerialatt.jpg
google earth


I would love to see this building during it's heyday. Does anyone have any information on it?
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fhammon Dec 10, 2012 9:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5932578)
Another 'noirish' looking character straight out of central casting.

...on trial for murder.

I wish I knew more details about this intriguing case. I've searched to no avail.
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Now, just looky here. Mrs Krueger survived. Extra! Read all about it:

"Other Woman is Shot by Husband"

...more here:

"Emita Krueger Battle Death"

"Shown as they appeared in the district attorney's office to attempts of Charles E. McDonald, held by police in the shooting of Mrs. Emita Krueger, to gain freedom on a habeas corpus writ are: Mrs. Frances McDonald (left), estranged wife of the prisoner, Karl Krueger (right), the noted orchestra leader and husband of the victim, as they discussed the case with Assistant District Attorney Edward Myers (center). Some hope was held today for Mrs. Krueger. "

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1938-Krueger-...9o!~~60_57.JPG EBAY

unihikid Dec 10, 2012 9:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 5932016)
What picture of Uni? I can't make out what I'm looking at here, and now I'm all curious. Could you please fix your tags or hyperlinks as needed?

TWS Class of '75

if you look at the top right you can see a grassy area..thats the lower field.the street that the long tan building with green trim is on should be Texas Ave.(going east -west/right- left)There is an arched brick door also in the picture that im thinking is apart of the old shop building.

GaylordWilshire Dec 10, 2012 9:23 PM

Well, that's a bit of noirish jackpot, ER. A bit of insanity; hints of lesbianism; an heiress shot; an orchestra conductor.

Here's a start:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-T...shootcompl.jpg
Los Angeles Times


Mrs. Krueger survived; McDonald was convicted and sent to San Quentin.

GaylordWilshire Dec 10, 2012 10:05 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...quistcompl.jpg
Los Angeles Times


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w...059%2520AM.jpgnashparts.com


While it's nothing to get excited about, the building, or what's left of it, appears to still stand--the angle and drainpipe at right in both photos is the same. While Nash itself would survive the Crash and then the Depression, Almquist's timing wasn't good and his presence in the building didn't last long. Kurtz Dodge was in residence by 1932; Glenn Austin Chrysler by 1935; Frost and French Packard by 1943; and Jackson Kaiser-Frazer by 1948. When this great Art Deco building lost its character is unknown. This remodel is a huge improvement, isn't it?


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R...2520AM.bmp.jpgGoogleSV

DouglasUrantia Dec 10, 2012 10:14 PM

Hints....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5932677)
Well, that's a bit of noirish jackpot, ER. A bit of insanity; hints of lesbianism; an heiress shot; an orchestra conductor.
Mrs. Krueger survived; McDonald was convicted and sent to San Quentin.

Here is one prescient quote from the LA Times story that was posted by Mr. Wilshire. Evidently the electrician's wife was living in the home of the woman who he shot three times. He even spied on her with binoculars. Lots of drama here.
"...more than friends."....that's quite a strong hint.;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s606/lesbo.jpg

GaylordWilshire Dec 10, 2012 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5932653)
From this aerial view, you can see from the rooftop 'mechanics' that the building is in use by AT&T.

http://imageshack.us/a/img845/8869/a...baerialatt.jpg
google earth


I would love to see this building during it's heyday. Does anyone have any information on it?
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Of the two main phone companies that existed in L.A. during the teens (Home and Los Angeles Telephone, which later combined and then morphed into Pacific Bell), I'm not sure which built this building--but it's always been a phone co building. It was the "Adams" exchange in the days before all-number dialing.

tovangar2 Dec 10, 2012 11:07 PM

501 E Vernon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5932653)

The real surprise was this marvelous building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/2450/aab479ev3.jpg
google street view

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I like the look of the tile work around the third-floor windows (at least I think it's tile work). The same detail over the bay doors has been painted out.

There's a fabric manufacturers and wholesalers listed for this address, Guilbert Tex Inc, so maybe AT&T is only in the new bit. The wealth of skylights probably makes it quite pleasant inside the single story part.

I'm hoping someone finds a photo of when it was first built. I'm heartened that we still have so many buildings that could be rehabbed with minimal effort.

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2012 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5932773)
It was the "Adams" exchange in the days before all-number dialing.

With 'Adams' added to my google search I was able to find this brief bit of information. The building was built in the 1910s.

http://imageshack.us/a/img26/5468/aa...ephoneinfo.jpg
http://www.thecentraloffice.com/calif/la/lap/lap.htm

thanks GW

tovangar2 Dec 10, 2012 11:37 PM

Emita Krueger
 
The victim, Emita Krueger in 1927, eleven years before she was shot.
At her home in Seattle with doll & dog.
https://content.lib.washington.edu/c...B=0&DMROTATE=0
university libraries - university of washington

Graybeard Dec 10, 2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5931022)
Here is a rare view of the Santa Fe Station from across a flooded Los Angeles River

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/1425/a...indistance.jpg
ebay

I would love to know the story behind the excised person.

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http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7...ssingdarth.jpg

ethereal_reality Dec 10, 2012 11:55 PM

:previous: LOL



March 11, 1933, a glimpse of Bunker Hill.

http://imageshack.us/a/img834/7875/a...bunkerhill.jpg
ebay

http://imageshack.us/a/img20/5962/aabaerial1933b2.jpg
reverse
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Good Emita Krueger find T2!


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