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rick m Jan 5, 2012 1:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5520058)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...sonford250.jpgLAPL

It seems that the Robinsons moved on from Teed Street in time for Julia S. Ford to remodel the house in even higher Victorian fashion. (In my brief pokings around for this post I haven't seen any information on the Edgemonts or girls' school mentioned by rickm, but maybe that came later. Perhaps Rick can give us some more info.)

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics24/00061643.jpg
Careful study reveals the original upstairs front bay and porthole window remaining after the remodeling.

As for Teed, he seems to have been a ubiquitous city politician, serving in a number of capacities in the '80s and '90s including as city clerk and president of the city council. The name finally struck a bell--in my research for http://stjamesparklosangeles.blogspot.com/ I remembered reference to a Teed house just at the end of what is now called variously St. James Park West or St. James Place, which, at any rate, runs directly toward a house at 2365 Scarff Street built by Freeman G. Teed in 1893. In addition to his civic duties, Teed was also apparently something of a real estate specualtor. The house we see behind the prolific vegetation there today--now L.A. Historic-Cultural Monument No. 457--is an enlargement of his original cottage by Mrs. Elizabeth Wallace:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2...2520AM.bmp.jpgCDNC Los Angeles Herald, March 12, 1905

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I...2520AM.bmp.jpgWikipedia

Found on an image copied frm LAPL book (Homes of Los Angeles-publ:1898) Julia Ford's home "The Edgemont"-- whew-solves that name imbroglio!

GaylordWilshire Jan 5, 2012 2:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rick m (Post 5537716)
You are correct in naming the Max Keunich mansion on Chester Place- In the W.Adams image I can identify the Capen home (at #818 address) This shows the porch before its modification- I got the i.d. for USC' unidentified Whittington Studio image of this place about a year ago-which they adopted-as it comes up in LAPL's database by other photographers- The Figueroa house is a toughie -doesn't match my set of large homes I collected--

Check out the Capen house and the part of it that lives on: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1851

As for Billie Burke, good for her, if true. But a recent biography debunks it. I guess it's always been true that in some minds there's no such thing as a straight actor. I don't know about women, but I do know that--being one--some gay men have a tendency to co-opt every male actor... except for the unattractive ones....

ethereal_reality Jan 5, 2012 2:27 AM

Recently I've noticed a plethora of new images of Hollywood madam Brenda Allen in the LAPL archive.

Back in 2010 this iconic photo of her was one the only one I could find in the archives.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1201

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5...endaiconic.jpg
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics28/00063984.jpg
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Here is a short synopsis for those unfamiliar with Ms. Allen

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/930...51detailsl.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=68546



This is my favorite of the new photographs. It shows Ms. Allen and a policewoman walking outside the Hall of Justice in 1949.
I wonder what the large sign says on the right hand side of the photo. Does anyone know which direction we're looking in this photo....is it north? I like the people on the left whispering and pointing.

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4...tsidehallo.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032641




below: A policeman guiding Ms. Allen into the paddy wagon, August 1948.

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/9...endapwagon.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032458



below: Brenda Allen in the paddy wagon, August 1948.

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9...paddywagon.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032459




below: Marie Mitchell aka Brenda Allen booked on charge of keeping a House of Ill-Repute, May 5, 1948.
Thank god Max Factor never utilized 'white out'......it's not a good look.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5...ndamug1948.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032438



below: Brenda in jail 1948.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8...jailunifor.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=31307



below: Brenda Allen's little black box of client's names confiscated in raid of house if ill-repute. I wonder what eventually happened to this priceless list of names.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2...lackboxofc.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...olNumber=35742


below: Brenda hiding behind a newspaper.

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1773/brendahides.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032457


http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2364/brendahides2.jpg






Court room FASHIONS by Brenda Allen.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/759...ashion1948.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032451


below: A 'Fox Hunt' type hat and a great fish pin.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4...ashionfish.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032455


http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/417...shionfish1.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032443



below: ANOTHER fish pin...perhaps she had a collection.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1574/brendaf3.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032462



below: Photo caption: "Brenda Allen dazzles in court with a new mustard-colored ensemble.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4...da4fashion.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032450




below: Caption: "Brenda Allen arrives in court wearing an expensive mink coat".

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9444/brenda5mink.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032440



http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/191...astfashion.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032692



below: A rather unique 'doily' hat.

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/756...doilleyhat.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032448



http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6258/brenda7f1.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032447


below: sans hat.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5979/brendafnohat.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/FullRecord?
databaseID=968&record=40&controlNumber=5032449



below: Does anyone recognize the facade in the background?

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3476/brendafcar.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032637




http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7...r2entrance.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032640


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Brenda Allen in 1951.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/133...ticket1951.jpg
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/9...51detailsl.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032700

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An AGING Brenda Allen in March 1961. (reminds me of 'The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone' of the same year)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7530/brenda1961.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032701

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ethereal_reality Jan 5, 2012 2:42 AM

FLASHBACK to the WHITE SLAVERYtrial of 1940. Almost a decade earlier than Ms. Allen's tribulations in the post above.

below: A fresh-faced Brenda Allen during the 'White Slavery' trial of 1940.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7...veringtria.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032421





http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4...1940slave1.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5032422



below: Joan Farrell during the white slavery trial of 1940.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6...oanfarrell.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3...anfarrell1.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5031833




BAD PRESS

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8...1slavering.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4...slavering1.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=5031876

GaylordWilshire Jan 5, 2012 2:56 AM

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013663.jpgLAPL

http://jpg2.lapl.org/spnb1/00017403.jpgLAPL

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAPL

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick m (Post 5537686)
This painted ad for the Armagh was on backside of the Alhambra Hotel- Armagh was 2 little streets west sitting between Stockton and Pavilion Place(address 500 to 514- The old original(relocated) Los Angeles High School faced it from opposite side of that block of California-- Armagh was a turretted gothic fantasy-

Say E.R.-- That new-to-me Hylen image is a rear shot of the Armagh Apts- was actually closer to No.Grand - on California directly across frm Oil Queen Emma Summer's Queen Apts (and aka Princess Apts) Armagh is a place name frm Ireland-- Rick M

Rick-- I'm confused about which one you're saying had the Armagh ad on the back and which one was the Armagh.... The Alhambra was at 316 N. Broadway; the Armagh at 314 California.

GaylordWilshire Jan 5, 2012 3:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5534415)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5529717)
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S...6%252520PM.jpgEbay

I love the colors in this glass slide currently on Ebay, identified as Figueroa Street ca. 1900.



First of all, e_r: I love the Brenda Allen gallery. What a piece of work she was. I'd gotten so used to seeing her in her usual heavy '40s makeup, it was a shock to see her as a fresh-faced girl.

But I also wanted to say that it looks to me like the Figueroa Street house in your pic above is the same as house on left below it--the convex mansard, the iron cresting, the dormers, the little flat dormer over the upstairs windows flanking the center porch, the first-floor porch spindlework.... I have a bunch of pics somewhere of Figueroa Street house & will have to sift through them to see if it can be further identified. Unless there is an intervention and my L.A. obsession is stopped.

mdiederi Jan 5, 2012 3:19 AM

I'm trying to find a photo of a pharmacy on the corner of 6th and Spring Streets circa 1900.

I recently acquired a box full of antique apothecary bottles and among them was one with raised letters saying "E.P. Deville Pharmacist 6th & Spring Sts. Los Angeles Pharmacie Francaise."

In Charles Lummis's December 1899 "Land of Sunshine" magazine in the new residents Commercial Blue Book section, under the Druggists heading, they list "EP Deville Sixth and Spring sts. Tel. Main 799"

I found one photo of a drug store on that intersection, but from several decades later, and I'm not sure if that one evolved from E.P. Deville's business or not. I don't know which corner Deville was on. If he was having his own custom bottles made he must have been a fairly prominent pharmacist.

ethereal_reality Jan 5, 2012 3:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5537824)
First of all, e_r: I love the Brenda Allen gallery. What a piece of work she was. I'd gotten so used to seeing her in her usual heavy '40s makeup, it was a shock to see her as a fresh-faced girl.

But I also wanted to say that it looks to me like the Figueroa Street house in your pic above is the same as house on left below it--the convex mansard, the iron cresting, the dormers, the little flat dormer over the upstairs windows flanking the center porch, the first-floor porch spindlework.... I have a bunch of pics somewhere of Figueroa Street house & will have to sift through them to see if it can be further identified. Unless there is an intervention and my L.A. obsession is stopped.

I think you're correct G_W.....that looks like the same house. You had a keen eye.....I would have missed that completely.

As for an intervention, I hope to God that NEVER happens. What would we ever do without you?

GaylordWilshire Jan 5, 2012 3:52 AM

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAPL

Above is De Ville's listing from the 1899 L.A. city directory--this would have been the northeast corner of 6th & Spring. I did a little search for a pic from the era on the LAPL & USC files & didn't see anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if something were to turn up. Btw, it seems that alot of drugstores had their own custom bottles in those days. Maybe glue for paper labels wasn't sticky enough then....:jester:


Quote:

Originally Posted by mdiederi (Post 5537842)
I'm trying to find a photo of a pharmacy on the corner of 6th and Spring Streets circa 1900.

I recently acquired a box full of antique apothecary bottles and among them was one with raised letters saying "E.P. Deville Pharmacist 6th & Spring Sts. Los Angeles Pharmacie Francaise."

In Charles Lummis's December 1899 "Land of Sunshine" magazine in the new residents Commercial Blue Book section, under the Druggists heading, they list "EP Deville Sixth and Spring sts. Tel. Main 799"

I found one photo of a drug store on that intersection, but from several decades later, and I'm not sure if that one evolved from E.P. Deville's business or not. I don't know which corner Deville was on. If he was having his own custom bottles made he must have been a fairly prominent pharmacist.


minkykat Jan 5, 2012 4:46 AM

Brenda was a fascinating lady. I was just reading about her in a book on the Black Dahlia case, how she may have been tied into it somehow.

Thanks for the pics. Whatever became of her?

Those Who Squirm! Jan 5, 2012 7:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5127888)
ethereal--it is absolutely amazing that the Hirsch still stands--it's just about the only recognizable vintage structure in these parts, its survival doubly amazing in that it's built of wood, unaltered and apparently in very good condition. The dentils and column capitals are intact, and the facade is even carefully painted to pick out "THE HIRSCH APTS." on two sides. The Hirsch would have fit right in on old Bunker Hill; once common, there are very few rambling wooden apartments buildings like this in any kind of decent shape left in L.A.

I know of at least one comparable building a considerable distance to the west. I'm not aware of a name for these but behold this apartment house next door to the Rally's Burgers on the NE corner of Venice and Hughes in the Palms district. According to public county property records, this quadruplex goes back to 1915. If memory serves each unit has its own house number, and I don't know what those are. But to provide a geographical context, the Rally's next door is 9829 W. Venice.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6109/6...f3cfa0a0_b.jpg
Quadplex at Venice and Hughes, between Motor and Bagley/Main. (Own work, 2011).

GaylordWilshire Jan 5, 2012 1:47 PM

A few downtown department store remnants
 
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3...2520PM.bmp.jpg

And one from when the May Co. was Hamburgers:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-d...2520AM.bmp.jpg


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...2520PM.bmp.jpg


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8...2520AM.bmp.jpg



Pics via Trader Chris

minkykat Jan 5, 2012 3:24 PM

Now is the perfect time of the year for a downtown history crawl. Seeing these pics makes me want to pack up the camera, the notebook and slide on down the 110 for an early Sunday morning site-see.

ethereal_reality Jan 5, 2012 9:33 PM

I searched past posts to make sure these color photographs of the old Coulter's on Wilshire haven't been posted yet.
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The following photos were taken in 1978 by Marlene Laskey & her daughter Ann. As you can see in the photos,
the Stiles O. Clements designed building was a Broadway store at this point in time.


http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2...adwayannel.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4979780

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6...ltersa1978.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4979780




below: Can you imagine what this looked like at night. The interior lighting diffused through the semi-opaque glass blocks.
I imagine you could see the shadows of people milling about.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9/c...adway1978a.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4979780

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/9...adway1978a.jpg
http://photos.lapl.org/carlweb/jsp/F...Number=4979780


This streamline modern masterpiece was demolished in the 1980s.

ethereal_reality Jan 5, 2012 9:52 PM

Pioneer Savings at 3245 Wilshire Boulevard.

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6...savings324.jpg
postcard/ebay


..and in real life.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3...ersavings1.jpg
google street view

It's fun doing these comparisons.

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Dylan Leblanc Jan 5, 2012 10:49 PM

hmm I wonder if it did ever have the spire?

ethereal_reality Jan 5, 2012 11:40 PM

:previous: I wondered the same thing Dylan.
It's my favorite part of the building, and the gold ties in with the gold slats on the opposite side of the building.
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Today, the building is home to the Consulate General of the Republic of Korea.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4...rconsulate.jpg
google street view

GaylordWilshire Jan 5, 2012 11:45 PM

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics19/00009292.jpgLAPL

Looks like it did....

ethereal_reality Jan 6, 2012 12:07 AM

:previous: Leave it to Gaylord_Wilshire. :)

Dylan Leblanc Jan 6, 2012 12:17 AM

oh sweet thanks! I thought perhaps it had been excluded when the building was built because the part of the building that would support it has a different cladding than shown in the rendering, so I thought perhaps the design was altered when built from what is shown in the rendering.


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