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sopas ej Mar 5, 2011 2:11 AM

Hollywood Hills, 1957
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8873/1957j.jpg
USC Archive

Vine Street, 1957
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4792/1957vine.jpg

I'd have loved to have patronized an establishment called The Hangover.

westcork Mar 5, 2011 2:18 AM

Here is a collection of County Court House plans that never got past the planning stages Courtesy USC

County Architect Karl Muck's drawing of proposed County Courthouse, 1930
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3782/764gi.jpg

Architect's drawing of the proposed new Los Angeles courthouse, 1934
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3405/773ro.jpg

G.S. Underwood's sketch of a proposed Los Angeles County Court House, 1935
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2420/772y.jpg

Architect's drawing of proposed building to replace old courthouse, 1936
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4595/766g.jpg

Artist's drawing of a proposed new Los Angeles County Courthouse, 1946
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6226/776p.jpg

Sketch showing proposed Superior and Municipal Courts building and the county administration building in
Los Angeles Civic Center, 1950
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4104/584u.jpg

New Los Angeles County Courthouse recommended by Citizens Courthouse Committee, 1953
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4558/762x.jpg

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Other Court related buildings

Architectural drawing of the proposed Law Library and Courts Building for the County of Los Angeles on
the Plaza de la Justicia, 1940
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4152/771b.jpg

Municipal Courts Building, Temple & Hill St., Los Angeles, 1950
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8084/405c.jpg
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9241/416h.jpg

GaylordWilshire Mar 5, 2011 2:32 AM

And farther out on Beverly...
 
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_z...10819%20PM.jpg http://panoramio.com
This shot is labeled as "Beverly & La Cienega"... don't think I've ever run across a pic of this
building before. Which corner of that interesection might it have been on? Did it bequeath
its curves to the Beverly Center?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...b1/Bevcent.jpg wikipedia.com

sopas ej Mar 5, 2011 2:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5188020)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_z...10819%20PM.jpg http://panoramio.com
This shot is labeled as "Beverly & La Cienega"... don't think I've ever run across a pic of this
building before. Which corner of that interesection might it have been on? Did it bequeath
its curves to the Beverly Center?

My guess would be the southeast corner, where the Beverly Connection is now. Something about the way the sky/lighting looks. The funny thing is, there's a drugstore on that corner today, at the Beverly Connection. I wanna say it even had a Rexall sign back in the 90s. But I could be wrong.

Mr Downtown Mar 5, 2011 3:13 AM

The building is still there, on the southeast corner. It's now Long's Drug/CVS.

Beverly Center replaced . . . a pony ride. And, of course, Tail O' The Pup.

ethereal_reality Mar 5, 2011 3:18 AM

sopas_ej is correct...this is the southeast corner of Beverly Blvd. & La Cienega.
My first job in Los Angeles was at the Beverly Center.
I would often go across the street to the Rexall's. It reminded me of the drug stores in the midwest (I was somewhat homesick).

If I remember correctly there was a gas station across the street on the northeast corner.
Adjacent to the gas station was the very popular under 21 club called 'The Odyssey'.
On the northwest side of Beverly Blvd. & La Cienega was 'Tail of the Pup' which I frequented for lunch (before it was moved a block west).

The original 'Ma Maison' restaurant was located in this area along Beverly Blvd.
Further to the west at 9039 Beverly Blvd. was the VERY famous 'Chasen's' restaurant.

Los Angeles Past Mar 5, 2011 3:44 AM

(No longer germane.)

gsjansen Mar 5, 2011 1:25 PM

i dunno 'bout the rest of ya, but i always get a thrill when i stumble upon a photo looking east on third towards the west portal of the tunnel that i hadn't seen before...........particularly one where you can see clear through the tunnel to hill street. also a very good shot showing the side rear stairs of the alta vista which the mother ran up hysterically searching for her daughter in the movie M

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XRrU8-3Nmi...600/img046.jpg
Source: Old Hollywood

gsjansen Mar 5, 2011 2:41 PM

some Life images


1953 aerial of the statler hotel

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/9b7a185e5d03906f_large
Source: Life

undated aerial looking north east on wilshire towards park la brea

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/1e9def5d508eb989_large
Source: Life

undated image looking north east towards bunker hill. (i'm dating it late 1964)

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/d74660aaa2359828_large
Source: Life

1962 image looking north west on 1st street towards city hall

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/89d7a675c2501a22_large
Source: Life

not quite sure who all these folks are, but i'm guessing this is taken from the roof of the phillips oil building, so i'm 'summin' these folks are the phillips oil board. (as usual, i could be wrong.....but i do love the shot!)

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/b76a16c898c7b013_large
Source: Life

planning for a better tomorrow

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/abb865ad759745ee_large
Source: Life

gsjansen Mar 5, 2011 2:48 PM

calle de los negros and the rest of what's left of china town being demolished for the 101 freeway.

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/31329a15183764fe_large
Source: Life

westcork Mar 5, 2011 3:18 PM

Back to the Drawing Board
 
Many of these have been seen here before. But I stumble across a few more I hadn't seen yet... All courtesy of USC

Plan of proposed municipal auto park in the vicinity of Civic Center, 1935
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/537...gcitbui583.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-CIT-BUI-583

Artist's conception of planned structure, 1936
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/9...gcitbui591.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-CIT-BUI-591

Drawing of a suggested civic center plan for downtown Los Angeles 1936?
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8679/chs37310.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...view/CHS-37310

Scheme of John F. Austin for proposed Los Angeles County Civic Center, 1938
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/106...gcitbui582.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-CIT-BUI-582

Plan for proposed Los Angeles Civic Center, 1940
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1...gcitbui580.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1...gcitbui580.jpg

Plan for proposed Los Angeles Civic Center, 1940
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/442...gcitbui581.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-CIT-BUI-581

Architectural plan for the Los Angeles Civic Center 1941
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/908...tairvie003.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...IT-AIR-VIE-003

Model of proposed Los Angeles Civic Center plan, 1947
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/6...gcitbui579.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-CIT-BUI-579

Plan for the Los Angeles Civic Center showing key buildings, 1952
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/773...gcitbui567.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-CIT-BUI-567

Architectural sketch of the suggested scheme of mall from Spring Street to Hope Street, 1956
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8...gcitbui593.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-CIT-BUI-593

Drawing of Los Angeles Civic Center Mall, at Broadway, Spring & Hope St., 1956
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8...gcitbui550.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-CIT-BUI-550

Los Angeles Civic Center Mall, 1957
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/1...gcitbui554.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...NG-CIT-BUI-554

Civic Center Mall, 1959
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6...n125600022.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-N-12560-002~2

Sebisebster Mar 5, 2011 4:46 PM

To gsjansen;

Thank you very much for sharing your latest pics: what a fantastic pictures!

-The aerial view of the Statler Hotel in 1953: no Harbor Freeway, yet to be built...And the beautifull Richfield Tower is still there! And watching at the pic, it seems to me an unrecognizable part of Downtown.

-Undated image of Bunker Hill (circa 1964) Man, let me say this in correct english: f*****g great!!! For the very first time, we can see a color picture of the area after the CRA bulldozers. It's amazing, the retaining wall around the hill (was it next Hope St????) and the remaining residences on Grand... Could it be Bunker Hill Avenue?
Also 3rd st tunnel and 4th st viaduct are cleary seen. Like I said, the pic is awesome and its main title could have been something like... 'On any given moment, anything can happen here', meaning all the vacant lots around.

Finally, these folks barely allow us to see what it could be a total color panorama of Bunker Hill about to be vanished. The last pic, the one you named 'Planning for a better tomorow' it's overwhelming... was it really a better tomorow?

And to come to and end: thanks again for your pics. Terrific work!

sopas ej Mar 5, 2011 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown (Post 5188048)
The building is still there, on the southeast corner. It's now Long's Drug/CVS.

I've been wondering about that; could what's there now be the original building, just massively remodeled? The proportions and its position on the site look about right. I do recall in the late 90s or early 00s that the Beverly Connection shopping center was remodeled or revamped, and there was some type of construction going on at this building; I'm not sure if it was remodeled yet again or if the building was demolished and a new one put up.

sopas ej Mar 5, 2011 6:16 PM

"L.A. is a great big freeway, put a hundred down and buy a car..." --Burt Bacharach/Hal David

Jeez I WISH I could put a hundred down to buy a car.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics43/00041098.jpg
lapl

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/1366/life1959.jpg
LIFE

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics17/00008226.jpg
lapl

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9...asadenafre.jpg
LIFE

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics04/00011661.jpg
lapl

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/9946/life1951.jpg
LIFE

Mr Downtown Mar 5, 2011 6:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 5188319)
could what's there now be the original building, just massively remodeled?

Yes, it's pretty easy to track on historicaerials.com. It does look like they filled in four light courts at one point; this was probably a big medical office building. The current Bing birds-eye photos show the northeast quadrant completely demolished, presumably being rebuilt.

sopas ej Mar 5, 2011 7:02 PM

Downtown LA, 1949
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/131...townla1949.jpg
LIFE

Main Street, 1948
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4...street1948.jpg
LIFE

5th and Hill, 1948
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2...ndhill1948.jpg
LIFE

Rush hour, somewhere near Sunset and Figueroa, 1949
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4...sunset1949.jpg
LIFE

There was a period prior to and during the construction of LA's freeways, when reversible lanes were used on major surface streets during rush hour.
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3...unset1949a.jpg
LIFE

GaylordWilshire Mar 5, 2011 7:10 PM

The Illustrated Ethereal Tour of Beverly/LaCienega
 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_z...E/s576/bc2.jpgwww.kobisiteniz.com




http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046747.jpgLAPL


http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046750.jpgLAPL
Photograph caption dated February 19, 1985, reads, "Residents who live near the Odyssey nightclub and
teenagers who frequent the club, showed up at a press conference called by local legislators who have
proposed legislation set a midnite curfew for clubs which cater to largely teen-age clientele." Is that the
Rexall to the left?

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00085/00085385.jpgLAPL
It burned in March 1985. Did a neighbor drop a cig?




http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028136.jpgLAPL


http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028146.jpgLAPL
Surely it was prettier in real life...




http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_g3rU8BUIml...g/s400/062.JPGsearching4seaglass.blogspot.com



https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_z...76/tailpup.jpg roadsidepeek.com
A rather unseemly angle...

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_z...ilopupla1b.jpg roadsidepeek.com
Don't often see a pic of it closed...



And a little Beverly Center neonoir crime to top it all off: Dolla, the renown rapper, got shot in the valet parking area. (Surely you remember his first single, released in 2007: "Who the . . . Is That?") Full story:http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may...everlycenter19

sopas ej Mar 5, 2011 7:20 PM

:previous:
Great set of pics, Gaylord!

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5188408)

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics24/00046750.jpgLAPL
Photograph caption dated February 19, 1985, reads, "Residents who live near the Odyssey nightclub and
teenagers who frequent the club, showed up at a press conference called by local legislators who have
proposed legislation set a midnite curfew for clubs which cater to largely teen-age clientele." Is that the
Rexall to the left?

Why yes it is, with the Beverly Center to its right, back when it was its original dung brown color. In my late teens I used to frequent the Beverly Center, just because I thought it was a great place to people-watch at the time. During that period, I once saw Cher coming out of a store called The Mod Hatter there. And one time, while my friend and I were going down the escalators to get to my car, we spotted Shirley Jones ahead of us. I think she must've overheard one of us say "Isn't that Shirley Jones?" because then she started looking back at us and walking faster; maybe she thought we were following her? We weren't following her, she just happened to park on the same level that we did and she was walking ahead of us. She hurried into her dark-colored Mercedes and fishtailed out of the exit.

ethereal_reality Mar 5, 2011 8:26 PM

Thanks for the 'ethereal tour' GaylordWilshire. lol I loved it! :)

It's funny sopas_ej....during my job at the Beverly Center I served Cher. Perhaps it was on the same day you saw her.
________

I have to correct one thing in my earlier post.
The original Ma Maison was on Melrose Avenue in a converted house (I thought it was on Beverly Blvd)
While searching for more information I learned that Ma Maison had an UNLISTED reservation number!!

_______

sopas ej Mar 5, 2011 9:14 PM

:previous:
It's possible, ethereal.

Hmm, the Tail O' the Pup. I don't think it exists anymore, I remember driving down San Vicente some years ago and it was gone. I'm not often in that part of town anymore, so I thought maybe I just forgot its exact location, but I distinctly remember a now fenced-off parking lot where I'm very sure it used to be (west side of San Vicente, north of Beverly). I would think that it would've been a big deal and made the local news if it were knocked down or something, I remember the big deal that was made about it when it was moved. So I guess it's now just a part of that storied list of "Things That Aren't There Anymore" in Los Angeles?


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