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AlvaroLegido Jun 23, 2020 5:59 PM

David Goodis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8959161)

I'm currently reading a noir novel by David Goodis, whose mostly forgotten now, and I wonder if he'd be better remembered, like Cain, if the movies made from his novels were better, though one of them, Dark Passage, is a personal favorite of mine.

Except "Dark Passage" which takes place in San Francisco, David Goodis is Philadelphia like Raymond Chandler is Los Angeles. David Goodis is very popular in France. French directors made movies from his novels.

ethereal_reality Jun 24, 2020 2:36 AM

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A mystery location.


"Vtg 1964 Golden Chicken Resturant Take Out Los Angeles Hills"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/UrvD4K.jpg
eBay

I hope we will eventually find more information on that partially hidden mansion up on the hill.

If you look closely there appears to be a Mobilgas Gas Station across the street. (behind the photographer)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/rhgWsW.jpg
detail

I believe the chicken logo in the window is advertising Broasted Chicken....I love Broasted Chicken!...:yes:


Link
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ethereal_reality Jun 24, 2020 3:10 AM

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mystery location #2

Here is a rather egnimatic rppc postcard.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8RPmNs.jpg
eBay

Hawaiian Gardens, Artesia California.



Equally egnimatic is what's typed on the back.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Tp4hNm.jpg

Carl Schurz was the 13th Secretary of the Interior.








Not to be confused with Nick Oreb's Hawaiian Gardens in San Pedro.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/F0LJo3.jpg

This place deserves a post of it's own.


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Flyingwedge Jun 24, 2020 3:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8960853)
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A mystery location.


"Vtg 1964 Golden Chicken Resturant Take Out Los Angeles Hills"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/UrvD4K.jpg
eBay

I hope we will eventually find more information on that partially hidden mansion up on the hill.

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The April 1964 Street Address Directory lists Golden Chicken at 2651 Lombardy Blvd. The building is gone, but the low retaining wall we see
in your photo behind the women is still there.


About the house on the hill . . . I don't know anything about it, but I noticed that now-empty area recently and wondered what once occupied
the top of the hill (I couldn't find anything in the Sanborn Maps). So thanks for posting that photo, which at least shows a little of what was there!

Flyingwedge Jun 24, 2020 4:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8959802)
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We have seen this amazing photograph on NLA but it is so phenomenal I thought it wouldn't hurt to see it again.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/gx8Omu.jpg
eBay

Los Angeles, 2nd Street from the hill...........


January 1887..........


For sale. Link


Yes, that is a wonderful photo. It's also image 2003-0484 at the CA State Library, where you can download a huge TIF file of it.

The CA State Library dates the photo c. 1886, but the First Presbyterian Church (tall steeple, right of center) had horn-blowing
angel Gabriel removed from atop its steeple on January 26, 1887, and he does not appear to be in place here, so this photo's
handwritten date seems pretty accurate. I don't think the photo could have been taken more than a few months later at most.

HenryHuntington Jun 24, 2020 5:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8960884)
About the house on the hill . . . I don't know anything about it, but I noticed that now-empty area recently and wondered what once occupied
the top of the hill (I couldn't find anything in the Sanborn Maps). So thanks for posting that photo, which at least shows a little of what was there!

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Probably not much help, but I checked the sattelite view, which showed not only the foundation of the house on the hill but also the remains of a driveway leading to the opposite side. Carefully landing the Googlecopter by the gate, the street address was given as 2520 N. Eastern Ave.

The May 1956 Street Address Directory lists the occupant as one O.J. Allen, who could be reached at CApitol 2-5628. In July 1965, Lucille Klupper was at 221-9081. Ditto April, 1967, but I couldn't find a listing for 1968 or after.

Lorendoc Jun 24, 2020 5:30 AM

Alta Pines
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8960884)
The April 1964 Street Address Directory lists Golden Chicken at 2651 Lombardy Blvd. The building is gone, but the low retaining wall we see
in your photo behind the women is still there.


About the house on the hill . . . I don't know anything about it, but I noticed that now-empty area recently and wondered what once occupied
the top of the hill (I couldn't find anything in the Sanborn Maps). So thanks for posting that photo, which at least shows a little of what was there!

The large house at the top of the hill was called the Alta Pines and it was at 2608 N. Eastern Avenue. It was a residence and a tea room operated by Mrs. Louise Threlkeld.

https://i.imgur.com/KOWJ2ta.jpg
1932 CD via lapl.org


https://i.imgur.com/qwoL98S.jpg
LAT 9-11-29 via newspapers.com

Here is an aerial view:

https://i.imgur.com/WSNhkHE.jpg
Google Earth Pro

There are many building permits for 2608 N. Eastern Ave, but I couldn't find the original or the demo dates. The mixed commercial and residential nature of the parcel is not mentioned in the permits.

https://i.imgur.com/kKiKl72.jpg
ladbs

Mrs. Threlkeld presided over many social events, she is mentioned many times in the newspapers.

Here is an aerial from 1952 with the 3 acre property outlined in red. The assessor describes it as vacant and gives it a value of $2,040,000 in 2017. Its hard to say if this aerial shows a building or not.

https://i.imgur.com/EYUoFgb.jpg
UCSB

odinthor Jun 24, 2020 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8960875)
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mystery location #2

Here is a rather egnimatic rppc postcard.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8RPmNs.jpg
eBay

Hawaiian Gardens, Artesia California.
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^^^ e_r, this would seem to be the structure at the site which is responsible for the name of the city of Hawaiian Gardens:

"The name is said to be derived from a bamboo shack refreshment stand opened at the corner of Carson and Norwalk boulevards in 1927 by an unknown businessman. The stand was said to resemble a Hawaiian garden." (quote from http://www.laalmanac.com/cities/ci31.php )

Noir_Noir Jun 24, 2020 2:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8960980)
Here is an aerial from 1952 with the 3 acre property outlined in red. The assessor describes it as vacant and gives it a value of $2,040,000 in 2017. Its hard to say if this aerial shows a building or not.

https://i.imgur.com/EYUoFgb.jpg
UCSB


Built in 1923 and demolished in 2008.


Shows up a little better in this 1976 aerial.

https://i.imgur.com/6btcwTw.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


A triplex on the 2008 demolition permit.

https://i.imgur.com/49sZCje.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

bboyelsereno Jun 24, 2020 3:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8961126)
Built in 1923 and demolished in 2008.


Shows up a little better in this 1976 aerial.

https://i.imgur.com/6btcwTw.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


A triplex on the 2008 demolition permit.

https://i.imgur.com/49sZCje.jpg
ladbsdoc.lacity.org

There was also a horse stable up there but it burned down. The house was a single family when built then a fraternity house then a triplex. Now there are plans to build 40 houses on that hill. We've been fighting it for years.
I have a picture of the house right before it was demolished, unfortunately I can't figure out how to post from Flickr onto this thread... I tried. Is there an easy by-the-number tutorial on how to do this. Plus, I've always wondered what was on the corner of Lombardy and Eastern... Great pic.

ethereal_reality Jun 24, 2020 4:42 PM

:previous:

We'd love to see the pic. bboyelsereno.

Hoss is good at explaining how to post or you could give a link to the photo and I could post it for you.

When I found the Golden Chicken photograph I had no idea the house atop the hill was an old tea room called the Alta Pines. That's a great discovery Lorendoc!


Thanks everyone for the amazing follow-ups!

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AlvaroLegido Jun 24, 2020 6:03 PM

Any developers ?
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8959802)
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We have seen this amazing photograph on NLA but it is so phenomenal I thought it wouldn't hurt to see it again.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/gx8Omu.jpg
eBay
Los Angeles, 2nd Street from the hill...........

January 1887..........

The raised ground on the right lasted 20 years more than the Richfield ! The ground was still there 60 years later as a run-down parking. We see it in "A drive through Bunker Hill and Downtown Los Angeles" at 2:12 of the footage.

BillinGlendaleCA Jun 24, 2020 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bboyelsereno (Post 8961247)
There was also a horse stable up there but it burned down. The house was a single family when built then a fraternity house then a triplex. Now there are plans to build 40 houses on that hill. We've been fighting it for years.
I have a picture of the house right before it was demolished, unfortunately I can't figure out how to post from Flickr onto this thread... I tried. Is there an easy by-the-number tutorial on how to do this. Plus, I've always wondered what was on the corner of Lombardy and Eastern... Great pic.

Posting from Flickr is easy...click on the share button(arrow icon pointed to the right), at the far right of the dialog that comes up you will see BB-Code. Click on that and you'll see a link and below that a drop down list box for size. Select the size you want and then copy the link, paste the link here.

odinthor Jun 24, 2020 7:48 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/vmVCJ42W/2ndEHill.jpg
Detail from recently-posted photo

Imagine observing this during a very lengthy, intense rainstorm, water cascading down 2nd, the cross streets getting flooded lower down.

:titanic:

I'd put a chair on the porch at left and watch the fun!

Beaudry Jun 24, 2020 8:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8960853)
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A mystery location.


"Vtg 1964 Golden Chicken Resturant Take Out Los Angeles Hills"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/UrvD4K.jpg
eBay

So apparently 2651 Lombardy Blvd was built as a real estate place in 1949. It became carry-out chicken in 1964, demolished for whatever reason in 1971.

My buddy fellow Noirisher rick_m passed this along to me—the Golden Chicken lives on in a backyard in Toluca Lake near Riverside Drive!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d73b32c8_b.jpg

(Although strictly speaking that's a rooster, not a chicken.) Also, it could be a specimen from a Donahoo's, which used to blanket the southland—

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/8e...600c62b0e7.jpgdonahoos

odinthor Jun 25, 2020 12:54 AM

Has NLA visited the Italian Village restaurant, at variously 423 or 425 W. 8th St., on the ground floor of the Hotel Bristol? I don't think so.

It seems to have been there from approximately 1924 to 1942.

https://i.postimg.cc/rsmRfRqk/Italian001.jpg
odinthor collection


There was a bump in the road in its first year (or nearly):

https://i.postimg.cc/TwSTXKrG/Italian-LAT-6-16-25.jpg
LA Times, 6/16/1925


Strange are the ways of human beings! My mention of this unquestionable truth arises from Mr. Jambon's attitude towards his wife some twenty-five years earlier:

https://i.postimg.cc/zG9M5TQx/Italian-LAT-8-20-00.jpg
LA Times, 8/20/1900


And indeed it was the same wife. Divorce had been considered around the time of the garden hose incident, but they seem to have patched things up. In time, Mrs. Jambon had become a respected piano instructor.

bboyelsereno Jun 25, 2020 3:33 PM

https://www.flickr.com/photos/112781.../shares/92aR5E

Not sure I did it correctly. :hell: The house is in the upper left hand corner. Sorry for the crappy quality of the photo. If I knew the house was going to be demolished a week after I took this I would have put more thought into it.

bboyelsereno Jun 25, 2020 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bboyelsereno (Post 8962530)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/112781.../shares/92aR5E

Not sure I did it correctly. :hell: The house is in the upper left hand corner. Sorry for the crappy quality of the photo. If I knew the house was going to be demolished a week after I took this I would have put more thought into it.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...527d1fe64c.jpg037 by bclajr, on Flickr


Figured it out... Finally

ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2020 7:33 PM

:previous: You did it!


I hope you don't mind if I enlarge your photograph.

The former Alta Pines Tea Room a week before its demise.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/T0MBLs.jpg




Thanks so much for sharing your photograph with us, bboyelsereno.

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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2020 8:27 PM

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Here's a more down to earth tea room. (annnd a mystery location)

"Front window and entrance to the New England Tea Room, Los Angeles."


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/cqTFau.jpg
lapl

"A woman and man are seated at the window table, peering outside. The building address is 4619, but no street name is visible." ....< - - - That's the mystery.

Is there such a thing as a kosher tea room? I think that might be a Star of David between the words tea and room.






Let's take a closer look at the two patrons in the window.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/MCVGBe.jpg
detail

oops. . ..... What I thought was a 'Star of David' is actually a mutant lily!




It's saying "Feed me, Seymore."


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