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odinthor Mar 13, 2020 4:01 AM

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Titusville, PA.

https://i.postimg.cc/MH2LgJgH/Horner.jpg
Google Book Search

And here's the area in question of today's Titusville.

https://i.postimg.cc/D0rNTYKg/Horner2.jpg
Google Maps

Downtown L.A. did have a Franklin Street, formerly Jail Street, which ran from Spring to Broadway, and at which poor ol' New High Street found its southern terminus. Hamburger's "great white store" location was at the corner of Spring and Franklin.

Flyingwedge Mar 13, 2020 6:02 AM

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Great detective work, Earl and Odinthor! I think the photographer was standing about where the
arrow is on this May 1904 Sanborn Map of Titusville, PA. The three-story building in e_r's photo
must be the Mansion House, at lower right on the map:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ville%20PA.jpg

ProQuest via LA Public Library

ethereal_reality Mar 13, 2020 11:11 PM

Yes. Great detective work!

but I'm bummed it isn't Los Angeles. :(

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ethereal_reality Mar 14, 2020 2:02 AM

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Here's another interesting snapshot from eBay.

Folks, this one is definitely Los Angeles. :)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/BvT2kZ.jpg
eBay / no longer listed

As you can see, the Home Savings Bank of Los Angeles occupies the building across the street.



. . .but I have a question. (of course I do)


I've been trying to figure out what this is. (see BELOW)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/lYTeE2.jpg

If it were angled downward I'd say it was a coal chute leading to the basement. . .but this thing angles upward.

And it's not one of those sidewalk elevators because it's flush to the building. .........What in the heck is it? :shrug:






Also, what in heaven's name is going on around this woman's head?...It looks like the multi-globe streetlight across the street has exploded!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/31Fz0H.jpg
detail

The only explanation I can think of would be that the lovely lady has two huge flowers sticking out of her hat.


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HenryHuntington Mar 14, 2020 3:55 AM

I'll take a flier on the first question, e-r. I think the "thing" is an inward-opening window that's hinged at the bottom. I can barely make out what looks to me like framing for a 2 X 4 pane commercial size window and a chain or metal guide to limit its degree of travel on what would be an interior wall perpendicular to the street. If any of that makes sense.

I also have to admit that I've never seen one of those windows hung at street level, so I could be misinterpreting or hallucinating shadows.

As for the millenery question, I have no idea and await keener insights from fellow Noirishers.

nadeau Mar 14, 2020 5:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HenryHuntington (Post 8861558)
I'll take a flier on the first question, e-r. I think the "thing" is an inward-opening window that's hinged at the bottom. I can barely make out what looks to me like framing for a 2 X 4 pane commercial size window and a chain or metal guide to limit its degree of travel on what would be an interior wall perpendicular to the street. If any of that makes sense.

I also have to admit that I've never seen one of those windows hung at street level, so I could be misinterpreting or hallucinating shadows.

As for the millenery question, I have no idea and await keener insights from fellow Noirishers.

I’ve never seen one before either. My guess, since it’s a bank so it can’t just be a lower window, is that all the large sheet glass windows have vents on the inside at their base, and the street wall has steel panels that can be opened and closed. The window closer to the corner has one too, but it’s only slightly opened.

GaylordWilshire Mar 14, 2020 1:34 PM

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Doing a little but not indepth digging, it looks like the Home Savings Bank of Los Angeles opened in April 1904 at Spring and Court; after at least one move, it merged with the American Savings Bank--not to be confused with the German American Bank--in the spring of 1913. (I got a little bored trying to follow the many mergers and acquisitions of LA banks.) Anyway, the American space at the nec of Spring and Second then became the "American Branch" of the HSBL, so ER's pic is after that. Seems there were lots of banks in the space.... The building was built in 1902--I would have guess 10 years before--by the Los Angeles Trust Company.


https://i.postimg.cc/mDWz2QcN/bankdrawing-bmp.jpg
LAT March 9, 1902


https://i.postimg.cc/Sx0pPVHr/banktopandbot.png
USCDL


At first I thought the man was leaning out of the window chatting...

https://i.postimg.cc/dVqKvDtk/bankde...window-bmp.jpg



By 1939, another bank was in the space and the interesting windows had been bricked up...

https://i.postimg.cc/K8KD1DYd/bank1939-bmp.jpg
USCDL

https://i.postimg.cc/tCJhcNFY/bank1939detail-bmp.jpg

ethereal_reality Mar 14, 2020 2:42 PM

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Just think; we wouldn't have noticed them if the one in the ebay snapshot hadn't been serendipitously open.

Thanks for the help HenryHuntington, nadeau and GW.






I see that they blocked the corner entrance and turned it into a window.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/oYAYXK.jpg



If you look closely at the entrance in GW's photograph it had already been closed off with, what looks like, a stationary wrought iron fence.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/HG40LH.jpg





But now look at the large arched main(?) entrance where it says Trust Building.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/jU5khh.jpg


Do my eyes deceive me?. . .It looks like you step down!....Who designed this cwazy building? :eeekk:





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odinthor Mar 14, 2020 4:02 PM

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It appears that the sleeker upper stories were not there at first:

https://i.postimg.cc/CL3JVgvG/Spr2ndNE.jpg
detail from image in odinthor collection and at http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal3.html

odinthor Mar 14, 2020 4:05 PM

Back for a moment to 744 S. Hill and Neve's Melody Lane, here's an exterior of its stretch of block (resized and with adjustment to contrast):

https://i.postimg.cc/7YfQkXqk/744SoHillLAPL36952.jpg
detail from LAPL image 36952

GaylordWilshire Mar 14, 2020 6:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8861798)
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It appears that the sleeker upper stories were not there at first:

https://i.postimg.cc/CL3JVgvG/Spr2ndNE.jpg
detail from image in odinthor collection and at http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal3.html


Yes-- the original building was the Burdick Block,built in 1888--the style of the building did seem older than 1902. The architect was Jasper N. Preston. That the upper floors were an addition to an existing building seems to have been downplayed in descriptions of the Trust Company's "new" building. Turns out John Parkinson was the architect of the upper floors:


https://i.postimg.cc/kX2q9qR7/banknewarticle-bmp.jpg
Herald, April 4, 1902

(The accompanying image is to dark to make it worth including here.)

HossC Mar 14, 2020 9:16 PM

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Here's a better view of the 2-story building. It's dated 1887 (i.e. a year earlier than GW's build date).

https://i809.photobucket.com/albums/...2ndSpring3.jpg
LAPL

nadeau Mar 14, 2020 9:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nadeau (Post 8861621)
I’ve never seen one before either. My guess, since it’s a bank so it can’t just be a lower window, is that all the large sheet glass windows have vents on the inside at their base, and the street wall has steel panels that can be opened and closed. The window closer to the corner has one too, but it’s only slightly opened.

Now that we know the first floor is up a set of stair, and there is a ground floor below the street level, it makes sense that those are windows after all.

odinthor Mar 15, 2020 12:33 AM

The Burdick Building, Spring & 2nd.

First, the previous structure(s):

https://i.postimg.cc/1Xw2qhKw/BurdickLAT1-19-82.jpg
LAT, 1/19/1882


https://i.postimg.cc/7P2pc0yh/BurdickLAT3-1-82.jpg
LAT, 3/1/1882


https://i.postimg.cc/Nf8ZGtFw/BurdickLAT3-9-82.jpg
LAT, 3/9/1882


And now to our building:


https://i.postimg.cc/8z19jYff/BurdickLAT6-3-88.jpg
LAT, 6/3/1888


https://i.postimg.cc/NjpVTxRJ/BurdickLAT7-16-88.jpg
LAT, 7/16/1888


https://i.postimg.cc/ZRyDGt22/BurdickLAT8-25-88.jpg
LAT, 8/25/1888


https://i.postimg.cc/HnDPHvCx/BurdickLAT9-1-88.jpg
LAT, 9/1/1888


https://i.postimg.cc/GtFgpPcj/BurdickLAT9-17-88.jpg
LAT, 9/17/1888


Evidently it was ready for occupancy by May 1, 1889:

https://i.postimg.cc/ydJw7Sgf/Burdick-Her5-1-89.jpg
Herald, 5/1/1889

CityBoyDoug Mar 15, 2020 2:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hookster (Post 8853658)

I didn't know that Roy was a Harley man. Trigger's probably very jealous.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f6/ce/51/f...f6e413d5ae.jpg
pinterest

Hookster Mar 15, 2020 5:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8862260)
I didn't know that Roy was a Harley man. Trigger's probably very jealous.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f6/ce/51/f...f6e413d5ae.jpg
pinterest

Ha! Thank You Doug! That's a great pic! I had never seen that one!!!

I will dig out some more stuff in weeks to come but, Today would have been my father's 103rd birthday so I will post this pic I found of him last night on Cliffie Stone's website... Playing with Merle Travis and others at KXLA in the Huntington Hotel in Pasadena that I have seen mentioned numerous times here...

Happy Birthday Dad!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...eefde8b2_b.jpgUntitled by l, on Flickr
http://www.cliffiestone.com/Cliffie/...s/photo35.html

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...06a0721b_b.jpgUntitled by l, on Flickr

Onward we go!

Hookster :)

ethereal_reality Mar 17, 2020 12:34 AM

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Here's a rppc aerial of downtown Los Angeles that someone has annotated.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/V3ALPC.jpg
Link

This is also a good view of the old Biltmore Theater that was located directly behind the Biltmore Hotel.





A view of the front of theater facing 5th Street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/MRVjU6.jpg
LAPL

I have never understood the open areas. .... To me it looks like a parking garage.



See those four urns...................................................................................................................................................... :previous:




Here's one up close....Instant death if you find yourself standing below one during an earthquake.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/hhmTZc.jpg
losangelestheatres

1949 - "Up on the balcony level breezeway with a policeman inspecting one of the giant vases after someone had tried to push one into the street."

hmmm. . .I had always heard that most of the precarious architectural ornament, like this mega-urn, were removed from buildings in Los Angeles after the 1933 Earthquake. ....I was misinformed.





Scott Charles Mar 17, 2020 2:20 AM

Coronavirus causes LA’s Philippe the Original to close for first time in more than 100 years

I'd previously heard that The Pantry had never closed their doors (being open 24 hrs), but I guess that Philippe has never closed during regular business hours.

CityBoyDoug Mar 17, 2020 3:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8864373)
Coronavirus causes LA’s Philippe the Original to close for first time in more than 100 years

I'd previously heard that The Pantry had never closed their doors (being open 24 hrs), but I guess that Philippe has never closed during regular business hours.


Today the nation's most populated county, Los Angeles County, announced a sweeping closure of dine-in restaurants, bars, nightclubs, and other entertainment venues. (As in much of the country under similar orders, takeout and delivery are still allowed.)

I guess that Philippe's and others will offer Take Out and Delivery

Scott Charles Mar 17, 2020 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8864456)
I guess that Philippe's and others will offer Take Out and Delivery

According to the article, CBD:

Quote:

At this point, Philippe’s is not offering delivery or takeout, but that may change in the future, Binder said.


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