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HossC Jan 31, 2020 2:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8816662)

Ooh my word HossC! How do you do that? :multibow:

I have to credit odinthor with most of the heavy lifting on this one. I had a quick look for the location when e_r first posted his photo, but it wasn't until odinthor moved the search up to Santa Monica that things started to fall into place.

BTW Noir_Noir, you've been doing some pretty good sleuthing yourself recently, so I just wanted to get in on the action ;).

CityBoyDoug Jan 31, 2020 7:45 PM

https://makejalava.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Se...pg/_medium.jpg
old file vault

Annette Funicello with her custom painted 1957 Thunderbird, around 1963. Can you can dig it.

Martin Pal Jan 31, 2020 8:05 PM

From this...

https://i0.wp.com/www.martinturnbull...yle-Avenue.jpg
To this?

https://i0.wp.com/www.thebulletintim...24%2C576&ssl=1

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/vide...ood-boulevard/

Feedback:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...ljqWA/viewform

P.S.: The link in the feedback area to view the masterplan isn't working at the moment and I couldn't find it in a search, either, but I informed the CBS webpage about it.
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Edit to Add: The link above to the Feedback Area has another link to the masterplan which is incorrect. That hasn't been changed yet...but here is the correct link to the masterplan:

https://heartofhollywood.la/walk-fame

It's got a lot of information, maps, graphics overlays on aerials, photos, ideas etc.

odinthor Jan 31, 2020 8:53 PM

:previous:

Though I wouldn't want to see a proliferation of traffic-restricted or pedestrian-only streets, I myself would be guardedly optimistic about this sort of thing for Hollywood Blvd. and, say, one of the DTLA "name" streets (Broadway or Spring), via my experience with such particularly in Stockholm (Gamla Stan) and Copenhagen. It shifts the atmosphere of the environment back to the diversity of people and away from cold steel on wheels. It gives a general more relaxed and sociable feeling. Traffic-y streets give the pedestrian a feeling of being out of place and subordinate.

CityBoyDoug Jan 31, 2020 9:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8817425)
:previous:

Though I wouldn't want to see a proliferation of traffic-restricted or pedestrian-only streets, I myself would be guardedly optimistic about this sort of thing for Hollywood Blvd. and, say, one of the DTLA "name" streets (Broadway or Spring), via my experience with such particularly in Stockholm (Gamla Stan) and Copenhagen. It shifts the atmosphere of the environment back to the diversity of people and away from cold steel on wheels. It gives a general more relaxed and sociable feeling. Traffic-y streets give the pedestrian a feeling of being out of place and subordinate.

Its very difficult to find a place to park your car in Hollywood. But I do like the additional trees....which will require a lot of maintenance...$$$.

So what do they plan....eliminate hundreds of parking places. The businesses on Hollywood Blvd will not like that.

ethereal_reality Jan 31, 2020 9:58 PM

I see you all have been quite busy since yesterday!

Thanks for working together and finding the location of my mislabeled mystery snapshot.

I really appreciate it.

BillinGlendaleCA Feb 1, 2020 2:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8817446)
Its very difficult to find a place to park your car in Hollywood. But I do like the additional trees....which will require a lot of maintenance...$$$.

So what do they plan....eliminate hundreds of parking places. The businesses on Hollywood Blvd will not like that.

Hmmm, I think there's a subway line that runs right under Hollywood Blvd.

CityBoyDoug Feb 1, 2020 3:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCA (Post 8817787)
Hmmm, I think there's a subway line that runs right under Hollywood Blvd.

Yes, its called the B Line. [it used to be called the Red Line].

It has three stops along Hollywood Blvd. It turns North just after Highland and heads up to the North Hollywood area.

https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/...cf7d970c-400wi
extravaganza

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2020 4:24 AM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ljKE4I.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch2000 (Post 8816142)
The clues are the building marked 'Ivar' in the mid ground, the bend in the road to its right, and in the distance the film vault building on Highland. Beyond that you can see Park La Brea in the distance so we are in Hollywood looking South-West.

I assume that the building with the "IVAR" is on Ivar street, and the bend is located between Selma and Sunset, so this photographer is likely on a building at Hollywood & Vine, looking SW.

:previous: Thanks Arch2000.

Yes, I noticed the Ivar right off the bat. This was when it was a legitimate theater with plays (before it became a nudie girl theater that featured camera nights on Sundays and Tuesdays).
I believe the Ivar opened in 1951, soooo that helps date the photograph. :) (I had previously mentioned that the date might be late 1940s)
I thought the tall building in the middle-distance was the Hollywood Athletic Club. I also thought the extra-tall building in the far-distance was the storage building on Highland.
Obviously my sense of direction sucks ....isn't the best in the world.

Also. . .
I'm surprised the gas-o-meter is still there. I've forgotten when it was dismantled. (I'm sure we've discussed this numerous times on the thread)
______________________________________________________________________



For newbies, newcomers and people with bad memories. me

Here is the Ivar as a legitimate theater in the 1960s.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/j7OXM8.jpg
thisstage.la





And as a 'girlie' theater in the 1970s & 80s.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Jhes0H.jpg
LOSANGELESTHEATERS.............................................................................................................................................................................................................(they spelled 'totally' wrong)


For awhile there was a dismantled helicopter on the roof. I have no idea why.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/iiuD62.jpg
losangelestheaters




This last image is interesting because the parking lot is the same one that's visible in the eBay photo.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/X5tnF3.jpg
1980 photo by Matt Sweeney LINK



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Lorendoc Feb 1, 2020 6:49 AM

mystery aerial
 
This is an undated Dick Whittington photo from USC captioned "Unknown location in Los Angeles County. Streetscape. Horizontal photography."

https://i.imgur.com/or3NoHb.jpg
USC Digital Library

Note the giant parking lots.

Here's an enlargement of the major intersection at the mid-right edge; lots of gas stations on each corner.

https://i.imgur.com/eIaN76B.jpg

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2020 6:21 PM

I've been going through some old files of mine.


Here's a remarkable eBay find from years ago. I can't remember if I have already posted it but it's soooo amazing I decided to post it anyway.

ELK'S ROOF GARDEN, LOS ANGELES CAL............................................................................................

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vttcCf.jpg
old file

Unless I'm mistaken this is the Elk's Club right next to Angels Flight. Can you imagine looking over the edge and watching 'Olivet' and 'Sinai' going up and down the incline.


the reverse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/nwaL99.jpg
old file



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JeffDiego Feb 1, 2020 9:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8799252)
Miss Short is at the right side by the man with dark glasses. Sad, it was one of her last days on this earth. RIP Elizabeth.

I'm intrigued by the gal near the lower right with eyeglasses and a light-colored suit jacket. She's got a ciggie hanging out of her mouth that looks nearly as big as a cigar.
Those born after 1990 have no idea how commonplace cigarette smoking was in the 1940's through 1970's. Restaurants & virtually all eating establishments, waiting rooms, movie theatres, hotels, planes, buses, trains etc. almost all had air hazy & smelly with cigarette smoke. Most everyone just accepted it because you couldn't get away from it. How many hotel and motel rooms do I remember that reeked liked dirty ashtrays? Thank gawd them days are over.

Martin Pal Feb 1, 2020 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8817337)
From this...

https://i0.wp.com/www.martinturnbull...yle-Avenue.jpg
To this?

https://i0.wp.com/www.thebulletintim...24%2C576&ssl=1

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/vide...ood-boulevard/

Feedback:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...ljqWA/viewform

P.S.: The link in the feedback area to view the masterplan isn't working at the moment and I couldn't find it in a search, either, but I informed the CBS webpage about it.
______________

Edit to Add: The link above to the Feedback Area has another link to the masterplan which is incorrect. That hasn't been changed yet...but here is the correct link to the masterplan:

https://heartofhollywood.la/walk-fame

It's got a lot of information, maps, graphics overlays on aerials, photos, ideas etc.
________________________________________________________________


Just posting this again as I added the correct link to the masterplan booklet, FYI.

CityBoyDoug Feb 2, 2020 5:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 8818274)
I'm intrigued by the gal near the lower right with eyeglasses and a light-colored suit jacket. She's got a ciggie hanging out of her mouth that looks nearly as big as a cigar.
Those born after 1990 have no idea how commonplace cigarette smoking was in the 1940's through 1970's. Restaurants & virtually all eating establishments, waiting rooms, movie theatres, hotels, planes, buses, trains etc. almost all had air hazy & smelly with cigarette smoke. Most everyone just accepted it because you couldn't get away from it. How many hotel and motel rooms do I remember that reeked liked dirty ashtrays? Thank gawd them days are over.

I looked at that photo again and that white thing may be an extension of the railing behind her. The photo is rather blurry. Yes, people smoking was an annoyance to me for many years.
Thanks Jeff for your comment.

Bristolian Feb 2, 2020 9:39 PM

The First Super Bowl
 
On the topic of cigarettes and since it's Super Bowl Sunday, here's a shot of Kansas City quarterback Len Dawson at halftime of the first edition of the game played January 15, 1967 at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. You have to love the contrast between these humble surroundings in the visitor's locker room at the Coliseum and what it must look like today in Miami. Safe to say that the players will sit on something more elaborate than a folding chair and the halftime ritual won't include either a bottle of Fresca or a cigarette. This photo looks almost noirish.

https://i.imgur.com/bqJVW56.jpg?1Yahoo

CityBoyDoug Feb 3, 2020 1:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8818852)
On the topic of cigarettes and since it's Super Bowl Sunday, here's a shot of Kansas City quarterback Len Dawson at halftime of the first edition of the game played January 15, 1967 at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. You have to love the contrast between these humble surroundings in the visitor's locker room at the Coliseum and what it must look like today in Miami. Safe to say that the players will sit on something more elaborate than a folding chair and the halftime ritual won't include either a bottle of Fresca or a cigarette. This photo looks almost noirish.

Dawson is now 84 years old. He had a radical prostatectomy in 1991.

ethereal_reality Feb 3, 2020 3:06 AM

This is the first time we have seen this apartment building on NLA. (I checked twice)


The Crestmont Arms, Los Angeles [1929]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/oXzAmS.jpg
eBay

The location is just off a curve on Sunset Blvd. at 1519-1525 Griffith Park Blvd.


The building is some distance from the street so it's a bit difficult to get a good look. (the overgrown tree that has engulfed gate also hinders the view )

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/zFyTur.jpg
gsv

The gray building on the left is a gas station in the 1929 photograph.


aerial
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/r9mgK6.jpg
google_aerial

I believe this short stretch of Griffith Park Blvd. is now closed to traffic.

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Hollywood Graham Feb 3, 2020 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8819039)
This is the first time we have seen this apartment building on NLA. (I checked twice)


The Crestmont Arms, Los Angeles [1929]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/oXzAmS.jpg
eBay

The location is just off a curve on Sunset Blvd. at 1519-1525 Griffith Park Blvd.


The building is some distance from the street so it's a bit difficult to get a good look. (the overgrown tree that has engulfed gate also hinders the view )

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/zFyTur.jpg
gsv

The gray building on the left is a gas station in the 1929 photograph.


aerial
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/r9mgK6.jpg
google_aerial

I believe this short stretch of Griffith Park Blvd. is now closed to traffic.

.

Looking at the Crestmont I can remember it well in the 50's-60's. The park is still accross the street, the one story brick building next to the Crestmont was Crestmont Auto Parts (bought lots of parts there), the brick building next to a parking lot at one time, if I remember correctly, was an A&P market at one time.

ethereal_reality Feb 4, 2020 5:34 AM

:previous: Thanks for the follow-up, Hollywood Graham. Interesting details.


"Antique 1909 Oakland BPOE Drill Team In Los Angeles California Panoramic Photo".........................................................................................................................................................................

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/HA7CRl.jpg
Link


I thought if we all work together we might be able to figure out where in Los Angeles this panorama of the Oakland BPOE Drill Team was taken.





Does the house ring any bells?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/JL3Oje.jpg
detail



And here's the view down the street on the right.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/ruFdQ4.jpg
detail




And now the left.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/XwnITb.jpg
detail

As you can see there is a two-story commerce building and houses along the cross street.





The 171 banner, the banner carrier & a close-up of eight of the 'squires'.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/knjjbb.jpg
detail of detail




And, finally, here is what's written in white along the bottom of the photograph.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/d2fbOw.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/hCDL35.jpg



the photographer
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/GIOjz0.jpg


Good luck, minions. :superwhip



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odinthor Feb 4, 2020 1:59 PM

:previous:

e_r, the main event, a big parade, of a major national BPOE event took place on July 15, 1909, through "the streets of Los Angeles," as various articles seemed to want to express it (as opposed to the details of which streets were on the route); one gathers that the main reviewing stand was on Broadway. But of course the picture was likely not on the march route but rather just some convenient place to pose.

The photography was perhaps due to the fact that this drill team was honored as the best:

https://i.postimg.cc/GpMvSYZY/Elks-Her7-16-09.jpg
LA Herald, 7/16/1909

And here they are, showing off at Ascot Park:

https://i.postimg.cc/JnGjw0LF/Ellks-Her7-18-09.jpg
LA Herald, 7/18/1909

So does any of this have bearing on where the pic was taken? Sigh, no, probably not . . .


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