"short for Bristol Cities, rhyming slang for ..."

Hoss,
One could certainly see how someone could make that assumption but I am pleading ignorance and innocence. Still, I wear the name proudly. I was born in Bristol, England and my name is Ian. My family then moved to Southern California when I was six so I did not get much exposure to rhyming slang other than my grandfather talking about going up the apples & pears. I can say that I am familiar with Bristol City, the more successful of Bristol's two professional soccer teams, although never a major player in English football (soccer).

I have learned so many interesting facts on NLA but I never expected anything like this!

Barrymore's looted totem pole
 

Good eye Flyingwedge! I don't believe I would have noticed the totem pole in the Sten-Frenka photograph.
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Your post reminded me of a story I recently read in NEW YORKER magazine.

YOU SEE.....John Barrymore liked to sail his 120 ft. yacht Infanta up to Alaska in the early 1930s.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/bhNXS8.jpg
vilda.alaska.edu


HERE'S A PIC of
John Barrymore and his wife, actress Dolores Costello, on one of their trips to Alaska. (Barrymore was also a hunter)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/292Wuf.jpg
Juneau Empire



On one of these trips (most likely 1932) Mr. Barrymore looted a nearly 40 ft. totem pole from a deserted Tlingit village.
He had members of his crew go ashore and saw the totem pole into three pieces until all that remained was a stump.
The three pieces were then loaded onto the Infanta and taken back to Los Angeles.

The totem pole stood on his estate until he died of cirrhosis of the liver in 1942.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/rEc7lH.jpg
NEW YORKER
John Barrymore, left, with an unknown person. photo by Bill Nelson

After Mr. Barrymore's death...the totem pole went missing for a number of years....until it turned up at Ralph Altman's antique shop on La Cienega Blvd.

The totem pole was eventually purchased by Vincent Price (actor and art collector) and placed on his estate in Benedict Canyon. (supposedly turning it into a fountain)
...or was it Barrymore that turned it into a kitschy fountain? :shrug: it's a bit confusing.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/O4eVxP.jpg
NEW YORKER
Vincent Price; his wife, Mary; and Edward R. Murrow, on the Prices’ patio, in 1958.

This article says the totem pole may have contained human ashes. HERE(which makes Barrymore's actions all the more atrocious)
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In 2015, the totem pole was returned to the Tlinget people. Read about HERE

Aerial Mystery (to me)
 

I'm having trouble placing this view....are we looking West on Temple? Am I not recognizing the obvious when I don't recognize the building upper left? (Sisters Hospital?) Am I losing my mind? Did I ever really have possession? Is this a repost? So many questions......Any help appreciated!

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4866/...0e753083_h.jpg
CHS

:previous:

Ralphs Brothers Grocery was at the corner of Spring and Sixth in 1881-82.


https://i.imgur.com/yHGS1PT.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/F8l5sKp.jpg
rescarta.lapl.org

Is the imfamous "Chicken Boy" still there? Maybe replaced by Gus Fring's "Los Pollos Hermanos"?

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8443176]Good eye Flyingwedge! I don't believe I would have noticed the totem pole in the Sten-Frenka photograph.


HERE'S A PIC of
John Barrymore and his wife, actress Dolores Costello, on one of their trips to Alaska. (Barrymore was also a hunter)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/292Wuf.jpg
Juneau Empire

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I recall in the film "W.C. Fields and Me" that Barrymore palled around with W.C. Fields and a few other movie stars who liked their booze. In the film (based on a book by Field's lady friend) after Barrymore died, Fields and the others took his corpse to give it a proper sendoff in a final drinking binge. Any press clippings about this event? A youthful Barrymore also had a brief affair with young "Gibson Girl" Evelyn Nesbitt before she got hooked up with playboy architect Sanford "Sanny" White. Nesbitt's nutty husband in 1906 murdered White in a jealous rage on the rooftop dining room of White-designed Madison Square Garden (which featured a rotating nude statue of the goddess Diana supposedly modeled by Nesbitt). The sensational trial was hugely covered in the press, the "O.J." case of its day. Nesbitt moved to L.A. in her later years and taught art. The Nesbitt-White-Thaw case was covered in the book/film "Ragtime" and the 1950s film "The Girl in the Red Velvet Swing" starring Joan Collins as Nesbitt and Ray Milland as White. Supposedly White pushed a nude Nesbitt on a red velvet swing that he kept in his mirrored love nest hideaway.

USC have a similar, but slightly earlier view titled "Panoramic view of Los Angeles, looking west along Sixth Street, from Main Street, ca.1882". In the top-right of both photos is the State Normal School.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LA6thMain1.jpg
USC Digital Library

They also have this reverse view from the State Normal School. Their description is:

Photograph of a birdseye view of Pershing Square (formerly 6th Street park) looking southeast from Normal School (the present site of the Biltmore Hotel) showing St. Paul’s Cathedral and First Methodist Episcopal Church, ca.1883. The First Methodist Episcopal Church located at north-east corner of Hill and 6th Streets is visible just right of center in the foreground, shown from the rear. Beyond this, paved pathways and rows of trees can be seen in the rectangular bounds of the park just beyond a small ranch-style rooftop and a narrow road. Farther back, the St. Paul's Cathedral can be seen on Olive Street, between 5th and 6th Streets, as well as a three-story brick building that appears to be the Saint Vincent College to the right. More open terrain fills the rest of the distance, interspersed with homesteads.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...LA6thMain2.jpg
USC Digital Library

I think that means that the building ScottyB was trying identify is St Vincent's College at 6th and Fort (Broadway).

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...tsCollege1.jpg
USC Digital Library

1936, Olivia de Havilland & Gooby o.O

https://i.imgur.com/pYYKGMp.png

:previous: Interesting story, e_r! It makes me wonder how Mr. Todd acquired the totem pole in Palisades Park that he gave to the City of Santa Monica.

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Thanks for posting this image, ScottyB, and also to Noir_Noir and HossC for pinpointing the location. I think we can date the
photo as c. October 1883 to January 1884; for one thing, the sun appears to be out of the south and a little low in the sky.

Also, the building in the center foreground is the First Baptist Church on the NE corner of 6th and Fort (later Broadway), which
was completed in March 1884 (and which this USC photo description seems to misidentify):

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psqppjx2fa.jpg

Dec 14, 1884, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


If you look closely at the CHS photo, the church still appears to be under construction; there doesn't seem to be a window
in the round opening in the church's east wall. So, regarding when the First Baptist Church got windows . . .

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psetzmkqrq.jpg

November 11, 1883, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


Furthermore, in the CHS photo we don't see the 1884-built Spring Street School just north of the First Baptist Church. You
can see how close the church and school were in this undated photo looking SE down Fort/Broadway toward 6th:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pse2hnzobx.jpg

00007837 at LAPL


This photo looks NE at the First Baptist Church, seemingly before the Spring Street School was built to its north:

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...pspcotcnth.jpg

00076399 at LAPL


And I'm reasonably certain that the Spring Street School north of 6th between Spring and Broadway was under construction by
the end of January 1884 (I don't believe this refers to the original Spring Street School on the NW corner of 2nd and Spring):

https://i1165.photobucket.com/albums...psdg0mlwea.jpg

February 1, 1884, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC

Chicken Boy has a new home in Highland Park, on Figueroa.
https://goo.gl/maps/db4FDn9rpmC2

Thanks Noir_Noir, Hoss and Fw! My mind is (temporarily) at ease.

I can't remember the last time we went over 36 hours between posts, so let's set the ball rolling again with a stabbing and suicide. As you'll see from the newspaper article after the photos, USC's description is a little misleading:

Stabbing and suicide, 19 April 1954. Edgar Byrd (nurse); Robert L. Newstetter (victim) -- 33 years; Officer Robert Boyle; John Leppold (officer).; Caption slip reads: "Photographer: Snow. Date: 1954-04-19. Reporter: Seifer. Assignment: Cop stabbing & dead stabber (Stabs cop then commits suicide). 3/4: Nurse Edgar Byrd bending over stab victim Officer Robert L. Newstetter, 33, at Georgia street. 51/52: Suicide note on dash. 5/6: Sheriff's officer Robt. Boyle holding suicide hose. 25/26: Officers Robt. Boyle & John Leppold looking thru window at body".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ertSchier1.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ertSchier2.jpg

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ertSchier3.jpg

All from USC Digital Library

The car looks like a 1949 Chrysler Windsor Coupe.

Here's the report from the April 20, 1954 edition of the LAT. Note that the dead man in the pictures is actually Albert Schier (not even mentioned in USC's description). The article also includes the scratched note on the dash seen in the second image, and says that Detective Newstetter was treated at the recently featured Georgia Street Receiving Hospital.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ertSchier4.jpg
www.newspapers.com

Always appreciate seeing another Winogrand although in this case the police officer looks almost otherworldly, jarringly unlike anyone else in frame. He could nearly be mistaken for a window mannequin from May Co.

https://i.postimg.cc/vHGL23Bh/1956-0...reck-2-613.jpg

January 22, 1956: The Los Angeles Police Department and local media broadcast one of the very first “SigAlerts” following the worst train wreck in city history.

The alert was triggered by the accident of a Santa Fe passenger train which had departed Union Station and derailed at Redondo Junction, southwest of Boyle Heights. The accident killed 30 people and injured 117.

It was the first major disaster in the Los Angeles area covered by live television.

[photo source and more notes on the accident: lafire.com]

Is this item currently for sale on e-bay? Can't find a link.

The date for the post you've quoted is Aug 6, 2015 ... so the item would be long gone from Ebay.

I just saw that..Thanks anyway!

Many of the victims were taken to Good Samaritan Hospital.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos...e-id1047856374
gettyimagesall

Note the numbers on the left wall.
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos...e-id1048716240

1938 flood in hollywood

https://i.imgur.com/AdBhvAe.png

1939, Santa Ana, 50.000$ villa of princess Usha, daughter of the maharajah from Indore

https://i.imgur.com/ZsAs6yR.png

:previous:

An iconic example of the Art Moderne style of architecture, a fortress-like castle for a royal Indian family.

The home still stands at the corner of Heliotrope Drive and Santa Clara Avenue in Santa Ana. (now owned by Dr. Quynh Kieu)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/KUr66H.jpg
GSV


The house, built as a sanctuary for his family by the Maharajah of Indore as World War II approached, boasts the classic features of an Art Moderne home
– horizontal lines, steel case windows and a flat roof.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/yVC32e.jpg
ocregister



A look inside.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/02Mj1l.jpg
ocregister

A leaking roof above the living room of Dr. Quynh Kieu's Santa Ana home has damaged the couches with dripping water. The original architecture of the house includes a flat roof that often leaks.


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Does anyone else find this image mildly terrifying? Can someone contact this fine lady (who is still with us!) and ask what the "Gooby" is all about?

That's what I am using H S, but they're not showing up in my post. :(

I uploaded the photos, in question, today at my mom's house.
The photos loaded very slowly (the process is quite fast at my apartment)...then imageshack says "there was a problem with the upload"...
yet, the photographs show up in my imageshack album...but they don't show up in my post.
My older photos on imageshack still show up. (I tried one)
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Yes, I need to empty my in-box.....but I don't what to lose the messages. I've already winnowed out alot of them.
TRUTH BE TOLD (I feel sentimental about many of my old messages) Yes, I'm weird.

p.s. Thanks for your help Handsome Stranger.

Changing my post to be less annoying.

Today I learned that George Herriman, the creator of Krazy Kat, lived at 1617 North Sierra Bonita Ave from 1922 to 1930. The house still stands and it's adorable.

https://i.postimg.cc/Gpp2dVkd/herriman.jpg
[source: Bing Streetside]

I must make a trek over there to admire it in person, and maybe get a better photo. I'm a big fan of Herriman's work.

 

In the late 1940s, T.V. station KTLA covered on live T.V. the attempted rescue of a child from a well. I believe the child was named Cathy Fiscus or something like that. Unfortunately, the child didn't make it. Maybe not a major disaster, but a tragic incident. This may have been the first T.V. live feed of a news story from the field, outside of a studio. Maybe somebody can post more info on this case. As a kid, I remember watching the failure of the Baldwin Hills Dam on KTLA, I believe in 1963. Houses were carried down the hill.

I feel the same about my old messages, e_r. Every time my inbox is getting full, I archive the oldest ones as text files (I've never tried the other options). It's not as convenient as having them in your inbox, but at least I have a searchable record.

BTW I looked at the links to your pictures of the Maharajah's house, and they showed fine individually. When I returned to the forum and refreshed the page, all the images appeared. Are other people seeing them now?

I see them now.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5639/...0ede767e_b.jpgKathy and Barbara Fiscus, December 1948 by Michael Ryerson, on Flickr

Kathy, 3, with her older sister Barbara (9) in late 1948. Kathy has about four months.

Kathy Fiscus rescue chronicle

On April 8, 1949, Kathy Fiscus, 3, fell down an abandoned well in San Marino. The resulting rescue attempt gripped Southern California. Television stations KTLA and KTTV broadcast live.

As part of its coverage, the Los Angeles Times published a “Rescue Chronicle.” From the April 10 and 11, 1949, editions:

FRIDAY (April 8, 1949):

4:45 p.m.–The child, in a footrace in a vacant lot, fell into a 230-foot abandoned water well.

5 p.m.–Her playmates notified Mrs. Alice Fiscus, who called police.

5:45 p.m.–Police and firemen attempted to pull the child from the well by ropes and failed. They dropped air hoses through the mouth of the well to insure ventilation. Mrs. Fiscus could hear Kathy’s crying voice.

6 p.m.–Massive clamshell cranes arrived to dig for the trapped child.


https://farm1.staticflickr.com/729/2...53c28fec_b.jpgTwo women, one memory, 1999 by Michael Ryerson, on Flickr

April 11, 1999. Alice Fiscus, 81, closes her eyes during the opening prayer at a memorial service 50 years after the death of her three-and-a-half year old daughter Kathy. Beside her is her daughter Barbara (Fiscus) Simon, 59. The memorial service was held at San Marino High School.

Al Seib/Los Angeles Times

re: e r's missing photos.
I am so relieved! I was climbing my mom's walls.

I don't believe we have seen this snapshot, from 1981, of the old Earl Carroll Theater decorated for the Los Angeles International Film Festival. (the year before I moved to L.A.)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/qr5nU5.jpg
flickr

"Aquarius Theatre, FILMEX, Los Angeles, CA -1981" Gerry D.

KTLA television
 

http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/SHORPY_19963u.jpg

1952. "Journalists standing in front of a KTLA television truck at Camp Mercury Proving Grounds; present to record an atomic bomb detonation in the Nevada desert." Photo by Maurice Terrell for Look magazine.

Image from Shorpy.com

another theater, the same year
 

This same guy, Gerry D. also has this photograph on flickr.

"La Tosca Theatre, Los Angeles. 1981"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/0meRkN.jpg
flickr

When I saw this as a thumbnail I thought the theater had been converted into a church. (what I thought was a cross...is actually a utility pole)

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I meant to post this earlier.

Here's another photo of the blimp (advertising 'The Outlaw') hovering over Hughes' Hercules as it's transported down to Los Angeles Harbor. [1946]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/efUD43.jpg
UNLV

:previous: I'd love to know what single-slab road this is.

hmmm....you'd think there would be a route map somewhere on the internet. (if there is...I haven't found it yet)

direct link to photo UNLV
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added info:

Title
Photograph of the fuselage section of the Hughes Flying Boat being moved to Terminal Island, California, 1946
Description
A section of Howard Hughes' "Spruce Goose" or "Flying Boat" being moved (with a police escort) from the Hughes Aircraft plant in Culver City, California
to Terminal Island in the Los Angeles Harbor where the plane was assembled in June of 1946.

Different Year?
 

:previous:


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Fnfazo.jpg
direct link to photo UNLV

Here's another photo, no doubt taken in the same area as the preceeding photograph. (BUT....this one is dated 1945 :shrug:) obviously one of them is misdated.


from UNLV

"The fuselage of the Hughes Flying Boat is seen in transport on a moving truck rig on a narrow road in the country, on its way to Long Beach Harbor.
Small groups of people gather to watch."
Date
1945-06-15

I'm pretty sure all the photos with the blimp (advertising 'The Outlaw') are dated 1946. What gives?

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:previous:

All the sources I found (admittedly a quick search) say the Spruce Goose was moved in 1946. Here's a short film:

• Video Link

https://i.postimg.cc/Dw3CckF5/sprucegoosedeuce-1.jpg

There's an excellent set of photos of the Spruce Goose/H-4 Hercules here, including several showing the craft being transported in sections to the harbor. All of the photos showing it being moved are dated June 1946.

EDIT: Does anyone know where this Coca Cola bottling plant might have been? Was there one near the harbor?

That's bigger than the Space Shuttle move.

If only Toyota had a pick up truck to advertise...

I found a newspaper article dated June 16, 1946, that details part of the route they took.

https://i.postimg.cc/KYZPbYjW/june-16-1946.jpg

Long Beach Coca-Cola Plant location
 

Handsome Stranger - I believe the Coca-Cola plant was located at 1700 W Anaheim St, Long Beach, on the southwest corner of Santa Fe Ave and W Anaheim St. The building is now occupied by Superior Electrical Advertising Co. The building's architecture somewhat resembles the Coca-Cola plant (ship) at 14th and Central Ave, Los Angeles, portholes and all.

Here's an original Kodachrome slide. (it's similar to others we have seen...but I think this particular one is new to NLA) ...of course I could be wrong.


"Los Angeles BUNKER HILL Kodachrome Photo Slide 1970 California DWP'

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/7JLTa3.jpg
EBAY

"Original Kodachrome Slide labeled: DWP Bunker Hill Towers Tel Co.
Slide dated Jan. 1970"



As usual...I have a question.

I can't quite place this squarish building. (beneath the red arrow)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ceGWnB.jpg

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? ;)

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Thanks for the info. on the Hercules/Spruce Goose Move HossC....Handsome Stranger...August-Marathon. oh, and Lwize

It's some kind of Heating/Cooling plant at 715 W 3rd St

The house has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms for a total of 1,822.square feet. To give you an idea of what has happened to Los Angeles real estate, the house last sold in 2005 for $1,185,000. The current value is estimated at from $1,796,600 (realtor.com) to $2,183,172 (zillow). Unbelievable!

Based on the info given in this article and that the starting point was Hughes Airport which was on the south side of Jefferson Blvd, just west of where the 405 now crosses, I would guess that the first shot shows the Spruce Goose traveling west on Jefferson approaching Lincoln Blvd where it would turn south. The terrain certainly looks like the Playa Vista/Ballona Wetlands area.

I would further guess that this shows the Jefferson/Lincoln intersection just before making the left turn onto Lincoln.

I believe the image seen on the video link above shows one of the wing sections traveling south on Lincoln and starting up the incline only a about a quarter of a mile south of Jefferson. Here is an approximate present day view.

https://i.imgur.com/ZYnVdwI.png?1GSV

I would map out the route but my photoshop skills are pretty much nonexistent.

:previous:

I wonder why they expended so much time and effort to transport it to the harbor at Long Beach when it was constructed so very close to Marina Del Rey?

https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5215...d5147a57_b.jpg

:shrug:

:previous:

The video posted by Hoss shows that the plane was assembled in a dry dock at Long Beach. I think they needed that kind of ship building facility. Nothing of that sort existed at Marina del Rey which wasn't really developed at all until the '50s.

After Kaiser, the aluminum manufacturer withdrew from the project and a Senate hearing on August 6, 1947 (the first of a series of appearances inquiring about questionable ethics), Hughes moved The Spruce Goose to Los Alamitos in Nov to test drive his creation.

Unfortunately, Marina Del Rey was an inadequate port because it was not begun to be built until 1954.

A new look at The Black Dahlia
 

Time for a new look at some good old fashioned L.A. Noir? I read about this upcoming TNT mini series in yesterday's L.A. Times.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...126-story.html

Exerpt:
https://i.imgur.com/4wFCOCF.png?1
L.A. Times 1/26/19

https://i.imgur.com/byjUFiX.png?1
TNT.com

https://i.imgur.com/ahkf2E1.png?1
Lloyd Wright "Jaws" house from TNT.com

There is a sneak peak tonight at 7:00 on TNT and the pilot airs tomorrow at 9:00. It got my attention and I don't have a backlog of shows to watch at the moment so I think I'll give it a try.