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CaliNative Jan 28, 2021 1:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9172928)
Moving east from The Galaxy and Galaxy Overflow, we come to the location that in 1955 opened as The Unicorn Book Loft/Coffee House at 8907 Sunset Blvd. It's said to be one of the first coffee houses in LA.

Here's a beatnik style poster of The Unicorn. Something tells me it's probably a recreation or artist's rendering of the original place.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...66&oe=60395482

CLICK ON THE POSTER FOR A LARGER, MORE READABLE, BUT LESS COLORFUL VERSION.

The following has been attributed to Domenic Priore, author of "Riot on Sunset Strip: Rock 'n' Roll's Last Stand in the 60's":
Unicorn was opened by Herb Cohen and Victor Maymudes in 1955. It was the first beatnik coffee house in Los Angeles. It was a place where the young rebels of the day congregated to drink coffee, listen to live music, conduct poetry readings and play chess. The walls inside of the Unicorn were painted dark with paintings of nude women (hung upside down) and photos of beatnik heroes covering the walls. The waitresses were hip, beautiful, blunt and mean!
It was ground zero of the emerging counter-culture in the late '50s and early '60s and advertised itself with slogans such as "Where casual craznicks climb circular charcoal curbs for cool calculated confabulations". The young kids would come together to discuss poetry, politics and religion, all while sipping their brandy flavored latte's.


They also sold books in the upstairs loft. I know there was a bookstore in West Hollywood at 8920 Santa Monica Blvd. called The Unicorn. I don't know when it opened but it was there in the late 70's. I wonder if when the coffee house closed they opened a bookstore with the loft bookshop? See HERE.

Warner Bros. album from 1958. The cover photo was taken inside The Unicorn. If you look at the upper right of this photo, behind the chandelier, you can see the "Unicorn" sign on the back wall.

https://img.discogs.com/otc40xpjaR72...24301.jpeg.jpgDiscogs

CLICK THE ALBUM COVER FOR A LARGER SIZE VERSION.

Here is a rare 1959 photo taken at The Unicorn's entrance: (The Unicorn looks more like a bull to me.)


Help! Right before I was going to post, I discovered this small Unicorn photo (for sale or already sold?) on WorthPoint. I cannot host it to any photo site now. (Could anyone else?) It's a great little snapshot. It's got writing on the back. It's dated 1-11-59.

It has some writing on the front, too. Along the edge it says Hamburger Heaven and an arrow to a spot in the distance on the photo. (I'm guessing they meant Hamburger Hamlet.)

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ffee-440655762
...........................................:previous:



Priore: In 1963, Lenny Bruce was booked to play a show at the Unicorn and was arrested after the performance for violating California's obscenity law and put on trial for that performance.

The ad at top for the Unicorn announces Bruce's upcoming performance:


In 1966, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band recorded a live album at the Unicorn.



The Unicorn closed in 1966 and it became Sneeky Pete's.

1966: You can see the striped awning for it below, behind the telephone pole. (Apparently Pete's moved the entrance to the left side of the premises, whereas The Unicorn used the right side as an entrance.)




You can see the striped awning for it in the distance from this 1967 photo looking through the Whiskee á-Go Go's awning. And notice, yes, it is spelled "Sneeky."


As for the spelling of Whiskee, someone writes: "The City pressured them into changing the spelling to Whiskee to avoid the liquor connotation of the original and present Whisky spelling to the younger crowd (under 21) that they were trying to keep out of the clubs. This was around the time of the Sunset Strip Riots."

I have to say, changing the spelling of Whisky or Whiskey to Whiskee isn't going to fool any reasonably intelligent teenager, is it? Advertisers have been doing those cute spellings for their products as far back as I can remember.

A color photo I hadn't seen before of the 1966 Sunset Strip protests around these times:


An original Sneeky Pete's Menu:



Several sources say that, apparently, Pete's was a mob hangout.

Allison Martino writes: Sneeky Pete’s was popular with wise-guys (there was even a photo of Al Capone in the men’s rest room). It was also popular for show biz entertainers like Miles Davis and Johnny Carson. In fact Johnny used to sit in on the drums. | VLA/Facebook


Sneeky Pete's was around until the late 1970's. A 1973 photo:


By 1973 it looks like all the places on that block to the west that I've been covering so far are now gone!

Moving on down the block...(to be continued)

General impression of Social/youth/bohemian/entertainment centers in L.A. over the years (pre-pandemic):

Pre 1940: downtown, Hollywood
1940-60: Hollywood
1950-1970: Hollywood, Sunset Strip
1970-90: Westwood, Santa Monica and Beach towns, Beverly Hills
1990-present: downtown, westside, Pasadena, Hollywood, WeHo, Silver Lake, Ktown, Santa Monica & Beach towns including OC

Is this fairly correct? Any new hotpots? Westwood used to be a big gathering center, but it sort of fell out of favor in the 1990s after some gang violence. Is the "Sunset Strip" making a comeback?

unihikid Jan 28, 2021 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 9173023)
General impression of Social/youth/bohemian/entertainment centers in L.A. over the years (pre-pandemic):

Pre 1940: downtown, Hollywood
1940-60: Hollywood
1950-1970: Hollywood, Sunset Strip
1970-90: Westwood, Santa Monica and Beach towns, Beverly Hills
1990-present: downtown, westside, Pasadena, Hollywood, WeHo, Silver Lake, Ktown, Santa Monica & Beach towns including OC

Is this fairly correct? Any new hotpots? Westwood used to be a big gathering center, but it sort of fell out of favor in the 1990s after some gang violence. Is the "Sunset Strip" making a comeback?

I was a teenager in the 90's, and i have to say that "Melrose" was a huge center. I know it's considered Hollywood, but it was it's own area for a very long time.

GaylordWilshire Jan 28, 2021 5:20 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/FHmJKHMF/wad1575-GSV-bmp.jpgGSV


I've discovered that the forlorn 112-year-old house at 1575 West Adams was the babyhood home of prolific Hollywood composer Jerry Goldsmith, whose amazing oeuvre includes the music for 1974's Chinatown, for which he was famously given just 10 days to complete after a previous score was rejected.

I think it needs a plaque. (The house definitely has needs.)

A history of 1575 West Adams and more on Goldsmith's antecedents is here.
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Slauson Slim Jan 28, 2021 9:37 PM

Pat and Lolly Vegas became the band Redbone. Dino Valente - or Valenti - was in the band Quicksilver Messenger Service and wrote the hippie anthem Get Together.

Sunset Strip clubs of the mid-'60s also included the trip and the Sea Witch.

Whiskee a go go. Also Whisk. The words whisky and whiskey on outdoor signs at one time ran afoul of California liquor laws.

Lwize Jan 29, 2021 12:54 AM

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Flash back to the '70s on a L.A. architecture driving tour
https://www.latimes.com/travel/story...e-driving-tour

Snix Jan 29, 2021 3:09 AM

Here is a better version of the poster for The Unicorn, designed by Rolly Crump. Crump worked for Walt Disney imagineering and made big contributions to the Haunted Mansion, it's a small world, and Walt Disney's Enchanted Tiki Room. https://wdwnt-buzzy.imgix.net/2020/0...-Review-3.jpeg
Photo by Mark Berry, from "The Great Crump Presents His Magic" as reviewed at https://wdwnt.com/2020/03/review-the...f-rolly-crump/

https://www.babytattoo.com/shop/the-...of-rolly-crump


Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9172928)
Moving east from The Galaxy and Galaxy Overflow, we come to the location that in 1955 opened as The Unicorn Book Loft/Coffee House at 8907 Sunset Blvd. It's said to be one of the first coffee houses in LA.

Here's a beatnik style poster of The Unicorn. Something tells me it's probably a recreation or artist's rendering of the original place.

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...66&oe=60395482

CLICK ON THE POSTER FOR A LARGER, MORE READABLE, BUT LESS COLORFUL VERSION.

The following has been attributed to Domenic Priore, author of "Riot on Sunset Strip: Rock 'n' Roll's Last Stand in the 60's":
Unicorn was opened by Herb Cohen and Victor Maymudes in 1955. It was the first beatnik coffee house in Los Angeles. It was a place where the young rebels of the day congregated to drink coffee, listen to live music, conduct poetry readings and play chess. The walls inside of the Unicorn were painted dark with paintings of nude women (hung upside down) and photos of beatnik heroes covering the walls. The waitresses were hip, beautiful, blunt and mean!
It was ground zero of the emerging counter-culture in the late '50s and early '60s and advertised itself with slogans such as "Where casual craznicks climb circular charcoal curbs for cool calculated confabulations". The young kids would come together to discuss poetry, politics and religion, all while sipping their brandy flavored latte's.


They also sold books in the upstairs loft. I know there was a bookstore in West Hollywood at 8920 Santa Monica Blvd. called The Unicorn. I don't know when it opened but it was there in the late 70's. I wonder if when the coffee house closed they opened a bookstore with the loft bookshop? See HERE.

Warner Bros. album from 1958. The cover photo was taken inside The Unicorn. If you look at the upper right of this photo, behind the chandelier, you can see the "Unicorn" sign on the back wall.

https://img.discogs.com/otc40xpjaR72...24301.jpeg.jpgDiscogs

CLICK THE ALBUM COVER FOR A LARGER SIZE VERSION.

Here is a rare 1959 photo taken at The Unicorn's entrance: (The Unicorn looks more like a bull to me.)

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...22&oe=603801C5


I discovered this small Unicorn photo (for sale or already sold?) on WorthPoint today! Another RARE photo!
And thanks to the kindness of HossC, :tup:, I can post it here now!

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...LAUnicorn1.jpg
WorthPoint and HossC :cheers:

The writing on the back says "Side view of The Unicorn, a coffee house on Sunset Strip. 1-11-59" (!)
The photo is taken from the opposite direction to the one above.
On the photo itself is the writing "Hamburger Heaven" and an arrow to a spot in the distance on the photo. (I'm guessing they meant Hamburger Hamlet.)




Priore: In 1963, Lenny Bruce was booked to play a show at the Unicorn and was arrested after the performance for violating California's obscenity law and put on trial for that performance.

The ad at top for the Unicorn announces Bruce's upcoming performance:


In 1966, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band recorded a live album at the Unicorn.



The Unicorn closed in 1966 and it became Sneeky Pete's.

1966: You can see the striped awning for it below, behind the telephone pole. (Apparently Pete's moved the entrance to the left side of the premises, whereas The Unicorn used the right side as an entrance.)




You can see the striped awning for it in the distance from this 1967 photo looking through the Whiskee á-Go Go's awning. And notice, yes, it is spelled "Sneeky."


As for the spelling of Whiskee, someone writes: "The City pressured them into changing the spelling to Whiskee to avoid the liquor connotation of the original and present Whisky spelling to the younger crowd (under 21) that they were trying to keep out of the clubs. This was around the time of the Sunset Strip Riots."

I have to say, changing the spelling of Whisky or Whiskey to Whiskee isn't going to fool any reasonably intelligent teenager, is it? Advertisers have been doing those cute spellings for their products as far back as I can remember.



A color photo I hadn't seen before of the 1966 Sunset Strip protests around these times:


An original Sneeky Pete's Menu:



Several sources say that, apparently, Pete's was a mob hangout.

Allison Martino writes: Sneeky Pete’s was popular with wise-guys (there was even a photo of Al Capone in the men’s rest room). It was also popular for show biz entertainers like Miles Davis and Johnny Carson. In fact Johnny used to sit in on the drums. | VLA/Facebook


Sneeky Pete's was around until the late 1970's. A 1973 photo:


By 1973 it looks like all the places on that block to the west that I've been covering so far are now gone!

Moving on down the block...(to be continued)


MartinTurnbull Jan 29, 2021 5:09 AM

Richfield Tower plaque
 
On my website, there is a page on which I have a collection of views of the Richfield Tower during the all-too-brief time it stood at 555 South Flower Street in downtown Los Angeles from 1929 to 1969. You can see that collection here: http://bit.ly/RichfieldBuilding


I suppose it was for this reason that I was recently contacted by someone who said that he had the entry plaque into the Richfield Tower building and would I like to see a photo of it? WOULD I EVER?!?! So he sent me this photo and said: “This came to me from a friend of many years. It was given to the foreman of the demolition crew when the demo started in 1967. He had it set in the entry way of his home. After his passing, it was removed and given to my friend and now to me.”

The words “ERECTED 1929” is surrounded by eight discs. Richfield was an oil company (now part of ARCO) so I’m guessing these eight discs represent fields of endeavor in which oil has played a central role. They are: oil wells, airplanes, skyscrapers, small boats, trains, ships, factories, and automobiles. I'm not sure why sea craft are there twice, unless the "small boats” is something else. I am SO glad that someone thought to save something from the jewel in the crown of Los Angeles architecture aside from the two bronze doors.



https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...aque-small.jpg

Martin Pal Jan 29, 2021 6:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snix (Post 9173854)
Here is a better version of the poster for The Unicorn, designed by Rolly Crump. Crump worked for Walt Disney imagineering and made big contributions to the Haunted Mansion, it's a small world, and Walt Disney's Enchanted Tiki Room.Photo by Mark Berry, from "The Great Crump Presents His Magic" as reviewed at https://wdwnt.com/2020/03/review-the...f-rolly-crump/

https://www.babytattoo.com/shop/the-...of-rolly-crump
_________________________________________________________________

Thanks for that info, Snix!

Martin Pal Jan 29, 2021 6:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9172928)
Moving on down the block...(to be continued)


Now to the last building on that block, a place that needs no introduction because it is the only business left from the 60's still in operation on this stretch of the Strip! 57 years! The Whisky-a-Go Go! (Or Whiskee á-go go if you're sentimental!)


This is a 2008 photo of the Whisky. Photos are usually taken in the other direction. This one shows that the 8909 Sunset Blvd. address of Sneeky Pete's location next door was occupied by Duke's Coffee Shop that had migrated up to Sunset Blvd. after the original location at the Tropicana Motel on Santa Monica Blvd. was replaced by a Ramada Inn complex.

https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bph...ahtUqWwQ/o.jpgYelp

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...c6&oe=6037B9E1 The building was a bank from 1929-1955.

It was the Los Angeles Conservatory of Music from 1957-1963. https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...d6&oe=6036D368

Then very briefly, it was a restaurant/club at the same location called "The Party".

This 2019 article from WeHoVille which talks about the city granting the building Historic Status and approving digital bilboards on the roof, says this: "[The] building was constructed in 1923, one of the first commercial buildings on what would become the Sunset Strip. It originally housed real estate offices and later various banks. In 1963, it opened as a nightclub called The Party, a private club for women, but soon went out of business. Elmer Valentine, a Chicago cop with mob ties, who moved to Los Angeles in the early 1960's, took over the lease and transformed it into the Whisky a Go Go."

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ff&oe=6034E597

So all these guys on the street in the above photo, must be waiting for the women to come out? :)

The Whisky is most often seen painted red, but it's not always that way. A couple examples.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ozWIenFr6...ky4-600pxW.jpg..........https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4c&oe=603848C8


Here it's two-toned.

https://i0.wp.com/rockandrollroadmap...40%2C264&ssl=1


2019
And now here's a 2019 video (4 1/2 minutes) of KISS arriving at the Whisky and taking a stroll out to the cross walk for a photo in front of this row of buildings being spotlighted the last several days.
Sort of a KISS-off to this block of the Sunset Strip.
:cheers:

Video Link


A few odds and ends...to be continued...

CaliNative Jan 29, 2021 7:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 9173936)
On my website, there is a page on which I have a collection of views of the Richfield Tower during the all-too-brief time it stood at 555 South Flower Street in downtown Los Angeles from 1929 to 1969. You can see that collection here: http://bit.ly/RichfieldBuilding


I suppose it was for this reason that I was recently contacted by someone who said that he had the entry plaque into the Richfield Tower building and would I like to see a photo of it? WOULD I EVER?!?! So he sent me this photo and said: “This came to me from a friend of many years. It was given to the foreman of the demolition crew when the demo started in 1967. He had it set in the entry way of his home. After his passing, it was removed and given to my friend and now to me.”

The words “ERECTED 1929” is surrounded by eight discs. Richfield was an oil company (now part of ARCO) so I’m guessing these eight discs represent fields of endeavor in which oil has played a central role. They are: oil wells, airplanes, skyscrapers, small boats, trains, ships, factories, and automobiles. I'm not sure why sea craft are there twice, unless the "small boats” is something else. I am SO glad that someone thought to save something from the jewel in the crown of Los Angeles architecture aside from the two bronze doors.



https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...aque-small.jpg

^^^
As I have said before, I sure miss that building! A more creative plan in 1969 could have saved it by tweaking the zoning laws or used height transfers, and probably erected a neighboring taller tower(s) in a smaller plaza. In 1968/69 it was not appreciated enough to save. So we have 2 almost identical half empty dominos/Space Odyssey slabs (ARCO & BAm long departed) instead of the original art deco masterpiece and a 65-70 story newer tower nearby.

Arch2000 Jan 29, 2021 6:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinTurnbull (Post 9173936)
On my website, there is a page on which I have a collection of views of the Richfield Tower during the all-too-brief time it stood at 555 South Flower Street in downtown Los Angeles from 1929 to 1969. You can see that collection here: http://bit.ly/RichfieldBuilding


I suppose it was for this reason that I was recently contacted by someone who said that he had the entry plaque into the Richfield Tower building and would I like to see a photo of it? WOULD I EVER?!?! So he sent me this photo and said: “This came to me from a friend of many years. It was given to the foreman of the demolition crew when the demo started in 1967. He had it set in the entry way of his home. After his passing, it was removed and given to my friend and now to me.”

The words “ERECTED 1929” is surrounded by eight discs. Richfield was an oil company (now part of ARCO) so I’m guessing these eight discs represent fields of endeavor in which oil has played a central role. They are: oil wells, airplanes, skyscrapers, small boats, trains, ships, factories, and automobiles. I'm not sure why sea craft are there twice, unless the "small boats” is something else. I am SO glad that someone thought to save something from the jewel in the crown of Los Angeles architecture aside from the two bronze doors.



https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...aque-small.jpg

I suspect there are two ships/boats, one to represent 'shipping' and the other to represent pleasure craft. If created more recently, you might see an auto to represent every-day driving, and a big rig to represent shipping/industry. In the 1920s they had trucks of course, but they weren't very big or much different from autos of the time (compared to today, that is).

As to CaliNative's follow-up, yes, the original tenants have long vacated the downtown Arco twin-towers. But I believe KMPG has taken significant space in the North tower, and Gensler has a huge office, having re-done the small bank building in the middle, and has 2-3 floors of the North tower as well.

riichkay Jan 29, 2021 11:07 PM

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

The Ruschamobile in action, reflected in the glass of 1424 Santa Monica Bl., Santa Monica.....1974.



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds





https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

Also '74, again on S.M. Blvd., I think in the Virgil/Hoover area.....evidently this woman was inquiring as to the nature of the project....I believe that's Ed on the left and his longtime friend/art school classmate Jerry McMillan on the right.    



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds



https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...080&fit=bounds

ethereal_reality Jan 30, 2021 5:39 PM

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:previous: Such sweet pictures. :)

Ruscha is still alive. I wonder if he remembers this encounter.








I haven't found a Wm R Morgan painting contractors on Sunset Blvd. but I found this one on Santa Monica Blvd. (1941 directory)...I'm going by "pntg contrs"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/eUgbME.jpg
lapl

That might be Wm. R's home address on Edinburgh Ave. (married to Florence) - -unless, of course, that's a different William R.

hmmm, but who is this mysterious Mona White?




I know the Sunset Blvd. address is out there and I plan to find it. ...*takes puff on pipe*

oops...I just reread riichkay's post and see that the three photographs were taken on Santa Monica Blvd. :duh
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ethereal_reality Jan 30, 2021 7:54 PM

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mystery aerial


This negative is currently on eBay.


"Aerial view of Los Angeles Streets & Shops, c.1950"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/zqlwrr.jpg

I've looked at this for waaay too long. I'm hoping someone will recognize the area.



Here's a positive of the negative.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/aLVPVF.jpg
eBay.








Let's take a closer look at the. . .umm. . .apartment complex(?) with a hidden interior courtyard.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/fvd7pk.jpg
detail







And here's a closer look at the buildings on the north side of the street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/v3mCjf.jpg
detail


The whitish one has the unmistakable shape of a movie theater.




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Martin Pal Jan 30, 2021 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riichkay (Post 9174705)
The Ruschamobile in action, reflected in the glass of 1424 Santa Monica Bl., Santa Monica.
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That was quite interesting, riichkay, thank you!

Speaking of Ed...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9173972)
A few odds and ends...to be continued...


A recap of this block from Hilldale east to Clark Street, seen in Ed Ruscha's 1966 photoshoot of Sunset Blvd.:



And...

Martin Pal Jan 30, 2021 10:52 PM

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...and a look back down the street, in psychedelic color...

...first in 1963.

The video title says Sunset Strip 1964. The Whisky opened in January, 1964, but at 0:24 in that location, seen below, "The Party" comes into view.................................................................................................................................................
...followed by The Unicorn, The Golden Violin, Cavalier and Hamburger Hamlet...............................................................................................................................................
(The video continues on down to Sunset and Doheny Rd., almost colliding with a light blue...I don't know, Chevy, maybe?)..............................................................................................................................................

Notice the cranes (like antennae) on the left. The 9000 building is under construction. (Looks like about three floors.)..............................................................................................................................................

Video Link
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Two views from the other direction...............................................................................................................................................

Not dated:.....https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-d2RyR3t1Q...let%2B60s.jpegEllenBloom..............................................................................................................................................


An eleven second twilight look at the location...............................................................................................................................................

Video Link
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Lastly, a 1968 view--on the left the Richfield is now a Union 76 and 9000 building is completed. Scroll right for the entire photo view...!!!..............................................................................................................................................

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ed&oe=6032CEF3

Arch2000 Jan 30, 2021 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9175474)
That was quite interesting, riichkay, thank you!

Speaking of Ed...




A recap of this block from Hilldale east to Clark Street, seen in Ed Ruscha's 1966 photoshoot of Sunset Blvd.:



And...

He should have named it 'Ruscha StreetView', and he could have sued Google for a lot of $$$$.

That pickup with the camera on it must have looked as strange back then, as the hybrids with the camera on them look now!

Arch2000 Jan 30, 2021 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9175341)
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mystery aerial


This negative is currently on eBay.


"Aerial view of Los Angeles Streets & Shops, c.1950"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/zqlwrr.jpg

I've looked at this for waaay too long. I'm hoping someone will recognize the area.



Here's a positive of the negative.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/aLVPVF.jpg
eBay.








Let's take a closer look at the. . .umm. . .apartment complex(?) with a hidden interior courtyard.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/fvd7pk.jpg
detail







And here's a closer look at the buildings on the north side of the street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/v3mCjf.jpg
detail


The whitish one has the unmistakable shape of a movie theater.




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While I don't recognize the area, I think I can provide some more context to the photo. What ER has called out in the center as an apartment building, I think, looks to be a high school complex. The area immediately behind the building is a quad/lunch area, and there are tennis courts and a ball field further behind the building. I suspect the complex at lower left to be a middle or elementary school, and they may have shared facilities- note the striped white crosswalk mid-block connecting the two.

To the middle right, I suspect that could be a library building fronted by a park. Many times smaller cities will have civic facilities grouped like this. So perhaps it's one of the smaller municipalities in the LA area, or not near LA at all!

But I do agree about the white building likely being a movie theater.

Earl Boebert Jan 30, 2021 11:38 PM

A photographer named Matt Oswalt has just published a coffee-table book devoted to photos of Los Angeles liquor stores. Some are in black and white. Here's his (noirish) criteria for choosing that mode:

I ask myself five questions before I shoot a liquor store in black and white.

1. Could Ed Wood purchase a bottle of Four Roses Bourbon while wearing an Angora sweater and not raise any suspicion?

2. Are the parking lot acoustics perfect for Quint from Jaws to sing a sea shanty?

3. Has this liquor store inspired Warren Zevon to write a song about it?

4. Is there an autographed photo of Wally George on the wall?

5. Is this where Easy Andy from Taxi Driver goes to restock on merch?


More here: https://www.thedailybeast.com/meet-m...re-photography (may be paywalled)

Cheers,

Earl

CaliNative Jan 30, 2021 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch2000 (Post 9175488)
While I don't recognize the area, I think I can provide some more context to the photo. What ER has called out in the center as an apartment building, I think, looks to be a high school complex. The area immediately behind the building is a quad/lunch area, and there are tennis courts and a ball field further behind the building. I suspect the complex at lower left to be a middle or elementary school, and they may have shared facilities- note the striped white crosswalk mid-block connecting the two.

To the middle right, I suspect that could be a library building fronted by a park. Many times smaller cities will have civic facilities grouped like this. So perhaps it's one of the smaller municipalities in the LA area, or not near LA at all!

But I do agree about the white building likely being a movie theater.

^^^
Just a wild guess...Manual Arts High School? My mom went there in the 1930s. Or perhaps L.A. City College on Vermont?

CaliNative Jan 30, 2021 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9175475)
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...and a look back down the street, in psychedelic color...

...first in 1963.

The video title says Sunset Strip 1964. The Whisky opened in January, 1964, but at 0:24 in that location, seen below, "The Party" comes into view.................................................................................................................................................
...followed by The Unicorn, The Golden Violin, Cavalier and Hamburger Hamlet...............................................................................................................................................
(The video continues on down to Sunset and Doheny Rd., almost colliding with a light blue...I don't know, Chevy, maybe?)..............................................................................................................................................

Notice the cranes (like antennae) on the left. The 9000 building is under construction. (Looks like about three floors.)..............................................................................................................................................

Video Link
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Two views from the other direction...............................................................................................................................................

Not dated:.....https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-d2RyR3t1Q...let%2B60s.jpegEllenBloom..............................................................................................................................................


An eleven second twilight look at the location...............................................................................................................................................

Video Link
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Lastly, a 1968 view--on the left the Richfield is now a Union 76 and 9000 building is completed. Scroll right for the entire photo view...!!!..............................................................................................................................................

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ed&oe=6032CEF3


^^^
Newly constructed Sierra Tower residential building in the backround. In the 1960s the tallest residential building in the west. 31 stories, 398 feet.

Bristolian Jan 31, 2021 7:03 AM

:previous:
At the time of his death in 1982, Jack Webb lived there in a two story penthouse apartment that he designed.
How cool is that?

CaliNative Jan 31, 2021 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 9175714)
:previous:
At the time of his death in 1982, Jack Webb lived there in a two story penthouse apartment that he designed.
How cool is that?

^^^
Very cool!

"This is the city...it is raining in Los Angeles...and I can see most of the city from my high perch in Sierra Tower...especially keeping tabs on those reefer smoking hippie punks on the Strip through my camera equiped telescope".

Bristolian Feb 1, 2021 3:43 AM

The Man Looking Out at "The City" from his Pad
 
https://i.imgur.com/S32AXfW.png?1

Earl Boebert Feb 1, 2021 3:45 AM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--kesrK13j9...raggedNet1.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--kesrK13j9...raggedNet1.jpg

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Cheers,

Earl

Mackerm Feb 1, 2021 8:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9175341)
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mystery aerial


This negative is currently on eBay.


"Aerial view of Los Angeles Streets & Shops, c.1950"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/zqlwrr.jpg

I've looked at this for waaay too long. I'm hoping someone will recognize the area.



Here's a positive of the negative.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/aLVPVF.jpg
eBay


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This is one of those places where you can see the clashing street grids. The street which runs from the upper left corner could be Hoover.

GaylordWilshire Feb 1, 2021 6:45 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/NGWwtS46/WAD1815-GSV-bmp.jpg


A demolition permit for this 1909 Craftsman at 1815 West Adams Boulevard, seemingly well-cared for, was issued last August. Perhaps if anyone in LA is covid-bored, lives nearby and/or needs to get out of the house, he or she might want to check to see if this has happened yet. It will probably be replaced by the type of multi-unit building for which houses like this one are rapidly being bulldozed. It sold for $820,000 in July 2019.

More pictures here https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angele...8/home/6897982

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2021 8:53 PM

.
mystery location

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/BhGXoX.jpg








The following images are from a short newsreel dated 12 / 25 / 1929. (go to shermangrindberg and type in "horseshoes")



Does anyone know where, in Hollywood, this horseshoe park was located?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/qHO7zs.jpg
shermangrindberg






As you'll see there are numerous signs for clues.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/QYvg8W.jpg
shermangrindberg

Note the two gentleman enjoying a game of chess.











https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/GdWNNa.jpg
shermangrindberg

The ad with the all seeing eye and horseshoe looks like something out of the occult.







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Vn9G9M.jpg
shermangrindberg


I believe I've shown you all sides of the park.

Now go find it sleuths! :whip:



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santamonicadesign Feb 1, 2021 9:47 PM

Regarding Clark and Hilldale...
 
I can't believe no one remembered the old Love/Arthur Lee song from 1967... Between Clark and Hilldale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnyoH5DpNE

HossC Feb 1, 2021 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9177057)

mystery location

Does anyone know where, in Hollywood, this horseshoe park was located?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/qHO7zs.jpg
shermangrindberg

The 1931 CD places the Hollywood Horse Shoe Club at 5627 Hollywood Boulevard. It's the only appearance I could find. The 1929 CD has Hollywood Durant-Star Motors Inc at 5610 Hollywood Boulevard, which I think is the business across the street in the screengrab above.

odinthor Feb 1, 2021 10:43 PM

:previous:

We're I believe at Hollywood and Gramercy . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/KYTkjQ8X/Hollyw...d-Gramercy.jpg
gsv

The horseshoe venue would have been on the lot to our right in the pic, the car dealership across the street on the lot ahead with the tower.

CaliNative Feb 2, 2021 4:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9177057)
.
mystery location

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/BhGXoX.jpg


The following images are from a short newsreel dated 12 / 25 / 1929. (go to shermangrindberg and type in "horseshoes")



Does anyone know where, in Hollywood, this horseshoe park was located?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/qHO7zs.jpg
shermangrindberg






As you'll see there are numerous signs for clues.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/QYvg8W.jpg
shermangrindberg

Note the two gentleman enjoying a game of chess.











https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/GdWNNa.jpg
shermangrindberg

The ad with the all seeing eye and horseshoe looks like something out of the occult.







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Vn9G9M.jpg
shermangrindberg


I believe I've shown you all sides of the park.

Now go find it sleuths! :whip:



.

I bet there was a lot of wagering going on. The 1929 crash had recently happened, so some of these guys may have been recently laid off and had lots of free time and still some money left for bets. :yes:

Horseshoes can be dangerous, especially in the hand of kids. I had an aunt who in jr. high school in the 1920s in P.E. class was hit on the head by an errant shoe. It probably fractured her skull, but she recovered. But her behavior changed and she became a compulsive liar and sometimes picked fights. She lived to a ripe old age of 99 and passed only ten years ago. She was always good to me. Very good cook and housekeeper. Lived in Northridge for many years. Married and had two kids. Lived her last couple of decades in Oregon. Never played horseshoes again as far as I know.

Lwize Feb 2, 2021 6:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by santamonicadesign (Post 9177126)
I can't believe no one remembered the old Love/Arthur Lee song from 1967... Between Clark and Hilldale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnyoH5DpNE

I remember. Still have the album too.

badrunner Feb 2, 2021 7:42 AM

Hill Street, 1961, colorized:

Video Link

Mstimc Feb 2, 2021 3:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 9176859)
https://i.postimg.cc/NGWwtS46/WAD1815-GSV-bmp.jpg


A demolition permit for this 1909 Craftsman at 1815 West Adams Boulevard, seemingly well-cared for, was issued last August. Perhaps if anyone in LA is covid-bored, lives nearby and/or needs to get out of the house, he or she might want to check to see if this has happened yet. It will probably be replaced by the type of multi-unit building for which houses like this one are rapidly being bulldozed. It sold for $820,000 in July 2019.

More pictures here https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angele...8/home/6897982

Shameful. Craftsman style has always been my favorite for home design. It just seems to lend itself to being lived in, if that makes sense.

Bristolian Feb 2, 2021 4:04 PM

:previous:
:previous:
Quote:

Originally Posted by badrunner (Post 9177579)
Hill Street, 1961, colorized:

Great film! At the beginning, the camera passes United Sporting Goods on the right. They had a location in Lawndale that existed into the '80s, I believe. I was unaware of any other locations. It was a 99¢ Store for years and now the interesting old building sits vacant.

https://i.imgur.com/4Jp1Qnw.png?2

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 5:04 PM

What is happening and how have you been

Quote:

Originally Posted by santamonicadesign (Post 9177126)
I can't believe no one remembered the old Love/Arthur Lee song from 1967... Between Clark and Hilldale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnyoH5DpNE
_________________________________________________________________


Would you believe I've never heard of this? !!!


Gotta go but I'll see you again.

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:08 PM

In doing the Hilldale to Clark posts the last week, I ended up with some other things that came to my attention while doing it and so here's some other odds and ends:


The NBC Radio City building at Sunset & Vine was demolished in 1964. Before the Home Savings and Loan building that replaced it was built, the area was a huge vacant lot. A few 1965 views of the location from Ed Ruscha:

https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...12/1965-82.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...12/1965-83.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...12/1965-84.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...12/1965-85.jpg

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:11 PM

In those recent posts about the Sunset Strip block there were two photos with Dwayne Hickman and Yvonne Lime, c. 1960, by the Hamburger Hamlet and The Handlebar.

That photo shoot had two other photos in nearby locations. One was Cyrano.
(Pauline Gallagher's on the right.)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...1MjI@._V1_.jpgIMDB

Cyrano was located at 8711 Sunset Boulevard.

Here's another photo, dated 1956, with Roger Moore and an unidentified gentleman at Cyrano.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/...1MjI@._V1_.jpgIMDB


A 1973 photo. (Eriks on the right.)

https://m.psecn.photoshelter.com/img...XcUBF9bcMg.jpgHollywoodPhotographs


An 8 second youtube video

Video Link

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:12 PM

The other photo of Hickman and Lime was taken at La Cienega Lanes on Santa Monica Blvd. at La Cienega Blvd. c. 1960

https://dowr580i1gdmf.cloudfront.net...0426183454.jpgMPTVImages

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:13 PM

A nighttime image dated 1982 of The Raincheck Room that has been previously discussed, but not many photos.

https://dowr580i1gdmf.cloudfront.net...0511175441.jpgMPTVIMages

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:17 PM

In 2016 I did a post about some businesses at 8795 Sunset Blvd., entrance on Horn (1114 Horn Ave.)
https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=37550

...writing:

It used to be a Spanish style residence before John Walsh turned it into the Cafe Gala in September of 1941. He sold it to Jimmy Dolan in 1948 and it was open well into the 1950's. By 1957 it was the Har-Omar and featured something exotic called "Cuisine Fantasia." By 1969 it was a Russian-Armenian restaurant called Kavkaz. It became Spago's in 1982, made famous by Wolfgang Puck and agent Swifty Lazar's annual Oscar parties. Spago's decided to move to Beverly Hills in 2001 and, as far as I know, the space has been vacant ever since.


No one's ever found a photo of the business as Café Gala or most of the other iterations like Har-Omar. In looking through Ed Ruscha's photos of the Sunset Strip recently, I found another restaurant that was located at this address: The St. Genesius Restaurant. We know Har-Omar was there by 1957 and Kav Kaz was there from at least 1969-1973.


Ed Ruscha's photos are from 1966:

https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2020/12/64.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2020/12/65.jpg

https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2020/12/66.jpg


I was watching some episodes of the 1963-66 series Amos Burke and he would travel down Sunset Blvd. occasionally. I recently saw an episode where he was riding at night past a sign which I made out to be a place called Knife & Fork. A search didn't provide any information, but tooling down Sunset Blvd. in the Ruschamobile, right after I passed the St. Genesius Restaurant I came upon this:

1966
https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2/67.jpg?ssl=1
https://i3.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2020/12/68.jpg

It appears the Knife & Fork was the restaurant part of the Sands Motor Hotel at 8777 Sunset Blvd.

1965

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMoqg5WU...jpg&name=smallVLATwitter

https://twitter.com/alisonmartino/st...873472/photo/1

This Mo(tor Ho)tel took up quite a lot of space.

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 7:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9163610)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9163513)
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[...]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/smnbpn.jpg
ebay

the restaurant next door on the right is. . .um . . .gaiety(?)
.
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I got the following from a website that had posted some oral histories of musicians and the like about Hollywood in the 1960's. This one from Don Randi, a songwriter and member of the group The Wrecking Crew, talks about a lot of the eateries frequented back then. No details, but Gaiety is mentioned and a lot of others name dropped.
[...]
“Neil Young, Jack Nitzsche and I would go out to places like the Gaiety Delicatessen."[Text Quotes Copyright 2020 Harvey Kubernik]
_________________________________________________________________

In the above post I thought the Gaiety might be referring to the location next to Dot records, but in traveling Sunset with the Ruschamobile, I discovered there was another Gaiety, in 1966 at least, at 9043 Sunset Blvd.

https://i1.wp.com/www.curbsideclassi...2020/12/18.jpg

By 1973 it was jd's Restaurant-Deli
https://media.getty.edu/iiif/image/8.../0/default.jpg

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 8:17 PM

FYI:

The Getty Center, which now houses Ed Ruscha's photographs, now has this link called:
12 Sunsets: Exploring Ed Ruscha's Archive.

The "12 Sunsets" refers to the 12 times (years) Ed Ruscha photographed Sunset Blvd. Those years are:
1965, 1966, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1985, 1990, 1995, 1997, 1998, 2007.

You can choose one year or multiple years at once and tool up and down the boulevard in your choice of a Volkswagen Beetle, a Volkswagen Van or a pick-up truck. You can flip to one side of the street or the other for easier viewing as you travel along the route using the arrow keys, among other things.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED:
https://12sunsets.getty.edu/

https://www.exibartstreet.com/wp-con...5-1024x661.jpg

JDRCRASH Feb 2, 2021 8:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 9177735)
Shameful. Craftsman style has always been my favorite for home design. It just seems to lend itself to being lived in, if that makes sense.

Totally agree. Its why while I would like the idea of living in a brick-walled DTLA loft, i'd also like living in a good old-fashioned bungalow in some of the region's older cities (Pasadena, Monrovia, Claremont, Redlands, North Santa Ana, etc)

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2021 8:58 PM

Lastly, a 2007 color photo I like taken where Elysian Park Ave., now Vin Scully Ave., the street that takes you up to Dodger Stadium, t-bones with Sunset Boulevard. (Which I am going to this afternoon to get the vaccine shot!) The billboard signs are retro in and of themselves.


Handsome Stranger Feb 3, 2021 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 9176859)

https://i.postimg.cc/NGWwtS46/WAD1815-GSV-bmp.jpg

A demolition permit for this 1909 Craftsman at 1815 West Adams Boulevard, seemingly well-cared for, was issued last August. Perhaps if anyone in LA is covid-bored, lives nearby and/or needs to get out of the house, he or she might want to check to see if this has happened yet. It will probably be replaced by the type of multi-unit building for which houses like this one are rapidly being bulldozed. It sold for $820,000 in July 2019.

Here's 1815 West Adams as of this afternoon, 2 February 2021.

https://i.postimg.cc/8Pkx6wfN/W-Adams.jpg

Barstowboy Feb 3, 2021 2:22 AM

Martin,
I've tried that link and the one on the Getty page, but nothing happens. I get a blank screen.
Any ideas?
Thanks.

JimCraig Feb 3, 2021 3:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 9178550)
Here's 1815 West Adams as of this afternoon, 2 February 2021.

https://i.postimg.cc/8Pkx6wfN/W-Adams.jpg

I'm sure the neighbors on either side are thrilled - NOT!

Martin Pal Feb 3, 2021 5:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barstowboy (Post 9178711)
Martin,
I've tried that link and the one on the Getty page, but nothing happens. I get a blank screen.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
_________________________________________________________________


Hmmm....don't really know Barstowboy :shrug:.

Perhaps if you do a google search and use any of the Getty links that come up you might get in that way?

If anyone else has any ideas, please share.


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