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alanlutz Sep 9, 2012 11:51 PM

I guess all we had to do was check Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._Angeles,_1940) It says it stopped being a Post Office in 1965.

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2012 12:32 AM

A stunning view of the Coral Canal in Venice Beach California circa 1920s.

http://imageshack.us/a/img803/2161/a...enice1920s.jpg
found on ebay






below: The reverse side of the Coral Canal cabinet card.

http://imageshack.us/a/img607/2161/a...enice1920s.jpg
detail






below: I was hoping to see 'J.C. Milligan, Photographer' stenciled on one of windows of the Mason Opera Building.

http://imageshack.us/a/img840/41/aac...hotographe.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1347237133916

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ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2012 12:41 AM

The Graf Zeppelin over Los Angeles in 1937.

http://imageshack.us/a/img89/1084/aa...overcityhf.jpg
ebay

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alanlutz Sep 10, 2012 2:08 AM

1937. That was the year they tore down the old Federal court house on the corner of Temple and Spring and began building the US Court House and Post Office. You can see all the buildings still standing on that spot from this great shot!

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2012 3:38 AM

:previous: Here is the destruction of the old federal post office at Temple and Spring in 1937.
To be honest, I thought this was only the post office...and not a federal court house.



http://imageshack.us/a/img35/1259/aa...lespring19.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1347247673692

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alanlutz Sep 10, 2012 4:10 AM

You are really on top of this one, ER. Wonder what that other red brick building and several beige ones were between Hall of Justice and this one being demolished. There is presently nothing but a large west lawn between US Courthouse and the Hall of Justice. Also I am amused by the "Sheriff's Barbeque & Picnic" signs. Is that along Spring Street or another smaller street before Spring St was extended?

ethereal_reality Sep 10, 2012 4:19 AM

I've had this postcard for quite some time without thinking much of the written sentiment (flood...drowning pigeons!?!)


http://imageshack.us/a/img854/679/aadrowningsquabs.jpg
found on ebay




...so I was amazed when I came across this photograph of a pigeon farm actually being swept away by the 1914 flood.

http://imageshack.us/a/img88/5690/aa...torglastof.jpg
found on an old cd of mine

This must be the pigeon farm mentioned in the postcard. How cool is that?
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Chuckaluck Sep 10, 2012 5:13 AM

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It must have been a big flood to take out the World's Largest Pigeon Ranch/Farm/Feather-Factory.

http://www.image-archeology.com/Worl...ornia_1716.jpg

http://www.image-archeology.com/Los_...ailed_1911.jpg

http://www.image-archeology.com/Los_...ailed_1913.jpg

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And speaking of "last stands," former Great Plains inhabitants are just a stone's throw from the studios. (Bison sightings from the Angel's Flight observation tower during the last Elks meeting may not have been an exaggeration after all!:haha: )
http://www.image-archeology.com/Siou...ngeles_Cal.jpg

1909
http://www.image-archeology.com/Indi...ornia_1909.jpghttp://www.image-archeology.com/Indi..._back_1909.jpg

Fromhttp://www.image-archeology.com

ProphetM Sep 10, 2012 5:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5825627)

Could the large building at the extreme right be the same large building at left in the first photo?
The direction of the smoke makes me think that it is a possibility.


http://imageshack.us/a/img850/9057/a...14fallingb.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img515/6633/a...stianicopy.jpg

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I thinks that's definitely the same building. There is a pattern of light and dark to the roof that seems to match up. I had no luck finding metal works or metal goods in my guessed location in the first pic. Now I'm off to search for hardwood flooring from the second pic... :haha:

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5825914)
I've had this postcard for quite some time without thinking much of the written sentiment (flood...drowning pigeons!?!)


http://imageshack.us/a/img854/679/aadrowningsquabs.jpg
found on ebay




...so I was amazed when I came across this photograph of a pigeon farm actually being swept away by the 1914 flood.

http://imageshack.us/a/img88/5690/aa...torglastof.jpg
found on an old cd of mine

Is that a make-shift wooden trestle in the distance? Where exactly was this ill-fated pigeon farm??

I think maybe that's the Dayton Ave. Bridge. The first one was replaced in 1927 and I believe it was a box-girder structure. It looks to me like there is a road leading off to the right of the bridge, and another one a short distance up the hill above the first road. I believe that matches what would have been at the Dayton Ave. bridge in 1914. Here's a link that I think has been posted here before, about the 3 Dayton Ave. bridges:
http://lacreekfreak.wordpress.com/20...dge/#more-7076

The 1930 pic from that site shows a second road above Riverside Drive on the hillside, and the 1937 newspaper pic mark an old road above Riverside that was among the casualties of the Elysian Park slide.

Los Angeles Past Sep 10, 2012 7:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5825753)
The Graf Zeppelin over Los Angeles in 1937.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 5825814)
1937. That was the year they tore down the old Federal court house on the corner of Temple and Spring and began building the US Court House and Post Office. You can see all the buildings still standing on that spot from this great shot!



Actually, the Graf Zeppelin visited Los Angeles in 1929. The airship was decommissioned in 1937.

Los Angeles Past Sep 10, 2012 7:11 AM

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Originally Posted by alanlutz (Post 5825907)
You are really on top of this one, ER. Wonder what that other red brick building and several beige ones were between Hall of Justice and this one being demolished. There is presently nothing but a large west lawn between US Courthouse and the Hall of Justice. Also I am amused by the "Sheriff's Barbeque & Picnic" signs. Is that along Spring Street or another smaller street before Spring St was extended?

http://imageshack.us/a/img35/1259/aa...lespring19.jpg
U.S.C. Digital Library




It's the 'new' extension of Spring Street. In the photo above, the torn-up road between the old Post Office/Federal Building and the ones in the foreground is New High Street.

http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/v.../CHS-42178.jpg
U.S.C. Digital Library

-Scott

MichaelRyerson Sep 10, 2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 5825511)
For MR, isn't there a glimpse of the Gilmore DriveIn in AH?;)[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

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Yes, I believe there is! In fact, I think there is a brief view of Frank Shaw and a casual mention of Monkey Island. You know, it is widely believed that everything you need to know about life is contained in Annie Hall. For my money I'm more of a Brothers Karamazov kind of guy but I can see Woody Allen's appeal. Next to Dostoyevsky he can seem downright whimsical.

GaylordWilshire Sep 10, 2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 5825496)


Note the evidence of graffiti on the right pillar—Berkeley Square had begun its decline by the time Schultheis did these photos. The two Berkeley Square gates were by Alfred Rosenheim. Below is the Times's rendering of them on Sept 25, 1904, as improvements were being made to the subdivision in preparation for its official April 1905 opening. More here: http://www.berkeleysquarelosangeles....e-arrived.html

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-I...2520AM.bmp.jpg

MichaelRyerson Sep 10, 2012 11:58 AM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8438/7...5362c8d7_o.jpg
Chili Bowl restaurant, Herman Schultheis, 1937

One of the six Chili Bowl restaurants, located at 801 N. La Brea Avenue in the Miracle Mile. The neon sign mounted on the roof reads, "Get the Chili Bowl habit!"

LAPL

GaylordWilshire Sep 10, 2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm (Post 5825673)
You are correct, sir. Irregularly published and updated rambling musings by yours truly. Will there be another post this month--or next? The suspense will kill you. :D

A must read:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6...2520AM.bmp.jpg

http://wanderinginla.blogspot.com/

Very witty, intelligent & quirky right down to my own preference for justified blocks of type!

MichaelRyerson Sep 10, 2012 3:06 PM

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8173/7...44c733bf_o.jpg
Al Levy's Tavern, Herman Schultheis, 1937

Front window of Al Levy's Tavern, with the name, a family crest, and the words "Now catering to the third generation of my old patrons" painted on it.

LAPL



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8031/7...80b6d767_o.jpg
Al Levy's Tavern, Herman Schultheis, 1937 (2)

Two fashionably dressed young women walk past Al Levy's Tavern on Vine Street in Hollywood. The neon signs above the door read "Al Levy's Tavern" (partially out of view) and "Air Conditioned".

LAPL



http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8174/7...556cc8f6_o.jpg
Al Levy's Tavern, Herman Schultheis, 1937 (3)

Exterior of Al Levy's Tavern, located at 1627 N. Vine Street in Hollywood. On the right is a glimpse of the Broadway Hollywood.

LAPL

GaylordWilshire Sep 10, 2012 4:42 PM

:previous:


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0.../mikelyman.jpgLAPL

Mike Lyman's remodeled and replaced Al Levy's—I've seen a good bit on the 'net about Mike Lyman's restaurants, but I didn't know he had a place at LAX:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520PM.bmp.jpgebay.com


The site on which I found this pc describes Lyman's LAX outlet as being between the wheels of the SAS DC6...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...2520PM.bmp.jpgn303wr

nostalgie Sep 10, 2012 5:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5824661)
JJ Newberrys next door to JW Woolworth & Co., Westwood, early '50s(?):
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-44893?v=hrUSCDigital

August 2, 1939 "new" entrance to the J. J. Newberry & Co. store at 311 West Fifth Street.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058335.jpg

August 2, 1939 (A lunch counter to rival Woolworths 431 S. Broadway? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=938)
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058336.jpg

New and improved - JJ Newberrys August 2, 1949. Grand re-opening 5th and Broadway.
http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics47/00058337.jpg

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Distantly related to J.J.Newberrys is its cousin, Britt's Department Store.

Newberrys had a store located on Third Street across from the Farmer's Market possibly in the '50s and '60s. 6314 W 3rd Street. According to the '73 Directory, next door at 6310 W. 3rd Street was Britts Department Store. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...rch_doc=brittsBritts was operated by parent company, JJ Newberry & Co. This building is recognizable today as "KMart." (JJNewberry once worked for Kresge, from which sprang KMArt.)

There is some slight difference of opinion regarding the history of this building since two people claiming familiarity with the building 30 years ago volunteered that the same building was operated as a private Hospital. As evidence, they claimed that the top floor "allegedly" retains the look of a large maternity ward, including related- equipment(?). Having never seen the place, I have no idea if any of this true.

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On a side note, east of the Britts/KMart building is the Ross Clothing Store which gained notoriety in 1984 for having a methane powered parking lot. It is interesting to note that the store started out, or at least once was a Market Basket Grocery Store. (See http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...=market+basket )
http://zev.lacounty.gov/wp-content/uploads/blast.gifgoogle

For anyone familiar with the area, I vaguely remember the Whole Foods Store to have been a Market Basket too, or was it a Mayfair, or Alpha Beta or even Safeway? Someone peering over my shoulder reminds me that there was a Loehmann's Clothing Store further east on the south side of Third Street (across from the Gilmore DriveIn?). But before it was a clothing store, was it not a Steakhouse or Italian restaurant that had its fair share of interesting clientele? Or perhaps I am confusing this with someplace else.

For MR, isn't there a glimpse of the Gilmore DriveIn in AH?;)

Wow! Instant nostalgia. Have been shopping at 3rd & Fairfax since the late '50s (was but a wee bairn at the time) & remember several things about BOTH
shopping areas. The one to the east (where the Ross is today) was the Park LaBrea Shopping Center, and the supermarket was indeed a Market Basket. The center had basic service businesses: dry cleaners, drug store, etc. The center to the west (where Whole Foods is now) was a charming place known as the Town & Country Center until 1961 or '62. (There's a center in Palo Alto almost identical to it - very woodsy, shingled bungalow style buildings).
When the new shopping area was built, the anchor was a Sav-On (now CVS) drugstore on the Fairfax end. The supermarket I recall was a Safeway, and there was a - I think - Zody's or White Front where the KMart is now. The center area (extends south about half a block) had a grease pit known as Fisher's Burgers, much loved by Fairfax High students.

Oh - about the Lohman's -- you're right, it was a restaurant in its original form, a place called Dublin's Food & Fun (I still have a matchbook somewhere). The building was a sort of rounded mid-century mod thing.

BifRayRock Sep 10, 2012 6:32 PM

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Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 5825511)
there was a mayfair for ever there.in the mid 90s when i was in my teens we would go to loehmanns for shoes.then afterwards the farmers market had a long building along fairfax where they had shops and at the end of the shops was antique alley,its funny how in 15-20 years things have changed so much in that area.

Anecdotally, there were at least two grocery stores on the south side of Third Street, east of Fairfax and across from the Farmer's Market. As I noted in previous posts, in '73 Market Basket occupied the location now known as the Ross Clothing Store (6298 W. Third Street). The second store, I believe would have been located at 6350 W Third, today operated by Whole Foods. You remember it as being Mayfair. Others I have spoken with remember it as a Market Basket, Safeway, Von's and even Ralphs (which I do recall being on the corner of Third and LaBrea.) Curiously, I haven't found any listings for prior food stores at that location in the directories I have perused. They do include SavOn Drugs (6360 W. Third)!

I too vaguely recall the collection of Antique/Consignment stores, a Post Office and the Gilmore Bank (which I think also housed antique stores).

http://www.image-archeology.com/Farm..._CA_P24896.jpghttp://www.image-archeology.com/
Postmodern Prairie Style 1955:
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3628/3...42113d3658.jpgflickr
http://www.farmersmarketla.com/histo...es/slide33.jpghttp://www.farmersmarketla.com/histo...s/slide33.html


Marilyn Monroe reportedly helps celebrate opening day of Bank,with AF Gilmore, 1955 (??)
http://lagroveliving.com/wp-content/...n-1024x768.jpghttp://images.search.yahoo.com/image...mb=x5Z4zRZd8Qy


My memories go back to Quinn's Market on Larchmont and Melrose and Smiths' Food King in Beverly Hills.

266 N. Larchmont. Before Quinns, in '67 Safeway.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XRrU8-3Nmi...the+Lam+19.JPGhttp://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com...locations.html

Master of disguise, the late Bob Hope in "Eight on the Lam" at 1st and Larchmont.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XRrU8-3Nmi...the+Lam+13.JPG http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XRrU8-3Nmi...the+Lam+17.JPG
http://dearoldhollywood.blogspot.com...locations.html



BifRayRock Sep 10, 2012 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nostalgie (Post 5826385)
When the new shopping area was built, the anchor was a Sav-On (now CVS) drugstore on the Fairfax end. The supermarket I recall was a Safeway, and there was a - I think - Zody's or White Front where the KMart is now. The center area (extends south about half a block) had a grease pit known as Fisher's Burgers, much loved by Fairfax High students.

Oh - about the Lohman's -- you're right, it was a restaurant in its original form, a place called Dublin's Food & Fun (I still have a matchbook somewhere). The building was a sort of rounded mid-century mod thing.

You should review some of the listings in the directories linked above as it might rekindle other memories. In the '56 directory, Fisher's is listed at 350 Fairfax, which suggests that the Mystery Market was also listed as being on Fairfax rather than Third.:yes: The fact that Town & Country can be listed as Shops, Village, Stores, Stalls and and Mall doesn't make things any easier. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...rs&submit=Find For what its worth, I recall being told that the name "Britts" was part of the terrazo flooring at the subject KMart, and it might still be there. (e.g. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...rch_doc=britts ) Curious about the Maternity Hospital recollections of another and it would be interesting to hear from someone who had actual knowledge of the building back then.



In '56 the restaurant you remember as "Dublin's" (6220 W. Third) went by another name: Barraclough's Dining Room and Coffee house. http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...oc=barraclough Don't know when it changed hands, but it was Dublins in '62 http://rescarta.lapl.org:8080/ResCar...ns&submit=Find

The Source erroneously indicates this establishment was from the '40s.
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imag...matchbook1.JPGhttp://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imag...matchbook4.JPGebay


"Town and Country" presumably late '50s. Well before my time and not how I remember it. May have been seen before on this forum:
http://yesterdayla.com/wp-content/up...towncntry1.jpghttp://yesterdayla.com

The Former "Britts":
http://archive.larchmontchronicle.co.../12-towing.jpggooglehttp://images4.citysearch.net/assets...8/SQNdHPLt.jpggoogle



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