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ethereal_reality May 2, 2020 10:29 PM

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RE:...mystery door hours.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/BNtWqN.jpg
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I took it to mean 8 A.M. to 12 Midnight.

Does anyone know when 'last call' was in downtown Los Angeles in 1971?


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ethereal_reality May 2, 2020 10:52 PM

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This excellent photograph was on eBay not too longer ago.

It was taken during the Shriner's Masonic Convention in 1925.



We have seen similiar photographs but I don't believe we have seen this particular one. (I could be wrong, of course)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/mHgs28.jpg
eBay

The Broadway Department Store can be seen on the right.

Also on the right; you can see two faux-camels on enormous bases....(not to mention the fake palms)

There's a strange looking street 'trolley' in the middle lane. (it looks it's been squashed)

I wonder if that's a doctor's bag in the back of the pickup.





This poor guy appears to be having some difficulties with his automobile.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/XYkj6f.jpg
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I think he's trying to push it back to give him more room for a running start.



There's the doctor's bag. (I'm just guessing it's a doctor's bag)

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Bristolian May 2, 2020 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8910413)
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Mystery doorway, downtown Los Angeles [1971]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/sUdJxl.jpg
[url="https://www.vincentborrelli.com/pages/books/111356/anthony-hernandez/anthony-hernandez-l-a-1971-signed"]anthonyhernandez[/url

I wasn't able to find the location of the doorway but did read a little about the photographer, Anthony Hernandez. Interesting profile from the LA Times here: https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...nap-story.html

Quote: "In the photographs of Anthony Hernandez, there are no swaying palm trees or cinematic sunsets. Instead, for half a century, this born-and-bred Angeleno has trained his unblinking lens on another L.A. — a city of the aged, of the working class, of the destitute."

And another profile here: http://lenscratch.com/2017/09/anthony-hernandez/

I sure like his style and his angle of showing the not so glamorous sides of L.A. Some of these shots make the bar door series look downright swanky but when isn't it time to get a little noirish here?

https://i.imgur.com/I9Jg2M3.jpg?1
http://lenscratch.com/2017/09/anthony-hernandez/

https://i.imgur.com/bV0KRd7.jpg?1
https://americanart.si.edu/blog/eye-...zs-photographs

https://i.imgur.com/c7bkFIU.jpg?1
https://www.sfexaminer.com/entertain...due-at-sfmoma/

https://i.imgur.com/U9Riqbh.jpg?1
https://manpodcast.com/portfolio/no-...karen-hellman/

https://i.imgur.com/o2o0Pbk.jpg?1
https://manpodcast.com/portfolio/no-...karen-hellman/

Some obvious but also some more mystery locations here.

CityBoyDoug May 3, 2020 1:09 AM

Oh my, people might get something sticky on the soles of their shoes from that sidewalk.

odinthor May 3, 2020 1:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8910960)

^^^The Java Lanes bowling alley on PCH in Long Beach.

https://i.postimg.cc/bNvfnHmf/Java.jpg
critiki https://www.critiki.com/location/jav...long-beach-91/

https://i.postimg.cc/2SPsPprC/Java2.jpg
pinterest

Scott Charles May 3, 2020 2:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 8910960)
I sure like his style and his angle of showing the not so glamorous sides of L.A. Some of these shots make the bar door series look downright swanky but when isn't it time to get a little noirish here?

https://i.imgur.com/I9Jg2M3.jpg?1
http://lenscratch.com/2017/09/anthony-hernandez/

I'm sure everyone recognizes Shatto 39 Lanes on Vermont...

https://i.imgur.com/DlBw45y.jpg

The original photo was taken from the corner of 3rd, but I moved a bit closer so we could read the text on the Shatto 39 (BOWL) building.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0688...7i16384!8i8192

BillinGlendaleCA May 3, 2020 3:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 8910935)
And in this picture the road at the top is Airdrome, The road at the bottom is Venice and the third side of the triangle is Fairfax. Crescent Heights is to the left of Kaiser and Sawyer is two streets below. So La Cienega wasn't near this set.

Nope, HossC is correct. La Cienega is the street just left of center, it has two bends in it, just like it does now. At the top left(corner of La Cienega and 18th) is the Adohr Creamery(we've seen it here on NLA before. So the street to the left of the set is La Cienega, below it is Cadillac, above it is 18th and Venice cuts along the right corner.

Snix May 3, 2020 4:48 AM

I believe the keyhole bar doorway in post #54354 may have been located at 107 W. 4th Street downtown. It was destroyed fairly recently.

ethereal_reality May 3, 2020 5:38 AM

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I believe you are correct, Snix.

Here's the doorway in 2009.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/f1nHFj.jpg
GSV

. . .but the beautiful metal components were already gone by this point in time. ( i.e. the actual door)



Here's what the sign says.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/qB8URj.jpg

The sign looks like a transplant from Chicago. .... (Old Style signs are ubiquitous there)


Thanks for the help, Snix. :)


for search purposes: keyhole door - ollie's sports shop - live bait and tackle - 107 w. 4th street - los angeles

CaliNative May 3, 2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8910927)

detail
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/DUVBJ7.jpg

CaliNative, is that really 'Lurch'?.... . .or are you kidding.


This gentleman?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/yWv1Xx.jpg
nytimes / ted cassidy obit.


Same ears.

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Well, Cassidy (Lurch) appears to have a squarer jaw. The "cop's" jaw is more pointed. So maybe not. On a related topic of tall monsters, Ed Gywnn who played "Frankenstein" on the Munsters had an interesting career. Car 54 Where are You? Mobster "Frenchie" in the Cotton Club movie. The southern judge in My Cousin Vinnie. Etc. Ed Gwynn, underrated actor. Finally, the dude who played Superman in the 1950s TV series always seemed to be out of shape. Never quite sold the fact he was the man of steel. Did he really do himself in, or is that just Hollywood myth? And Alfalfa getting shot in a dispute over hunting dogs--that is just depressing. I always thought Alfalfa & Spanky (or maybe Butch) would fight to death over Darla.

CaliNative May 3, 2020 12:05 PM

Best Nourish L.A. T.V. series?
 
77 Sunset Strip gets my vote. Perhaps the original 1950s Dragnet.

CityBoyDoug May 3, 2020 5:17 PM

Wiki's bio of actor Cassidy says nothing about him being a Traffic Cop in LA. Plus that cop is much thinner in the face of any actor Cassidy photos. Maybe it is Cassidy but people wanted to hide the idea that he was an LA cop at one time.:shrug::shrug:

Martin Pal May 3, 2020 8:15 PM

If you're casually glancing at the photo below you might think the young man on the bus bench has pretty long legs. Look again.

https://i.imgur.com/bV0KRd7.jpg?1

I'm wondering if the person on whose lap he is sitting was trying not to have their picture taken?

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8911056)

^^^The Java Lanes bowling alley on PCH in Long Beach.

https://i.postimg.cc/bNvfnHmf/Java.jpg
critiki https://www.critiki.com/location/jav...long-beach-91/

https://i.postimg.cc/2SPsPprC/Java2.jpg
pinterest
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Address is 3800 E. Pacific Coast Highway, Long Beach, and this LINK has the Hernandez photo dated 1980.

The Java Lanes opened in 1958.

Java Lanes was the quintessential baby-boom recreation spot, and a constant flow of guests enjoyed the South Pacific-meets-Jet Age amenities of its coffee shop, dining room, banquet room, cocktail lounge, ballroom, billiard room, supervised nursery for the kiddies and thirty-two bowling lanes, with a top-notch pro shop.
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Java Lanes cooled somewhat, but enjoyed a revitalization in the ’90s when one of its space-tropical entertainment rooms became the Lava Lounge. Mark DiPiazza reactivated Java Lanes’ long-dormant entertainment license and put together years of high-energy music shows in the Lava Lounge, nurturing tons of local bands and playing host to touring acts like Weezer, and Lit, who filmed the video for their hit “My Own Worst Enemy” at Java Lanes. (video included in article) Every paid admission to a show entitled you to a free game of bowling.

Unfortunately, this new burst of energy at Java Lanes would sometimes spill into the surrounding neighborhood, and complaints and police calls began to pile up. In 2002, the bowling alley had its entertainment license revoked. Facing slow business and with offers on the table, the Java Lanes owners sold their property. It was demolished in 2004.


Above from:

Java Lanes Remembered As Long Beach’s Tiki, Space-Age Fun Place
https://lbpost.com/hi-lo/art/java-la...-age-fun-place

If you GSV the address it looks nothing like Hernandez' photo now. It's all Town Houses and such.

This is the squiggly sign thing in the far distance of Hernandez' photo:

https://img.lbpost.com/wp-content/up...Lanes_Sign.jpg...from article

At night:

https://www.critiki.com/images/locat...4561_large.JPGCritiki

Hollywood Graham May 3, 2020 8:37 PM

Copper On The Corner
 
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Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 8911471)
Wiki's bio of actor Cassidy says nothing about him being a Traffic Cop in LA. Plus that cop is much thinner in the face of any actor Cassidy photos. Maybe it is Cassidy but people wanted to hide the idea that he was an LA cop at one time.:shrug::shrug:

It isn't Lurch, I have put this photo on a LAPD site asking if anybody knows who it is but drew a negative. I would say it is late 50's myself and those guys are older than heck and are not computer types or have passed away. He ius a traffic Officer and wearing white gloves so he is working P.I.C. which was traffic directing and parking control at that time.

Martin Pal May 3, 2020 10:03 PM

^^^

I'm surprised that photo has been stirring so many comments. It didn't when it was first posted on NLA.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...ostcount=50349

Winogrand L.A. picture, dated Jan. 1960.

Martin Pal May 3, 2020 10:06 PM

:previous:

I remembered that photo because the blond woman looking down in the center looks like the employee who's in charge of the bank deposit boxes in a film I like from 1956...The Man in the Vault. She's even wearing the same outfit, or nearly the same. I don't know the actress's name, it's not in the credits nor on IMDB.

transitfan May 4, 2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Charles (Post 8911103)
I'm sure everyone recognizes Shatto 39 Lanes on Vermont...

https://i.imgur.com/DlBw45y.jpg

The original photo was taken from the corner of 3rd, but I moved a bit closer so we could read the text on the Shatto 39 (BOWL) building.

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0688...7i16384!8i8192

Used to bowl there when I lived nearby (4th & Hobart, August 1977-August 1979). Also ate many times at the McDonald's (that was the closest one to where I lived until they opened one at Wilshire & Normandie shortly before I moved). Nice to see that they have remodeled it. Passed by that location many times on the old RTD 28 line going to and from school/work at USC (would change at Wilshire for the 95 to get to the campus)

ethereal_reality May 4, 2020 3:59 PM

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Mystery location.


Here are two images of UCLA's Subtropical Horticulture Orchard in 1934.

#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/mhOZz6.jpg






#2
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/J2BeLO.jpg

I thought it might be a fun challange to try and figure out where this campus orchard was located by using the buildings as markers.

The trouble is, for me anyway, I don't know the buildings on UCLA's campus well enough to figure it out.






Here's a closer look.

#1
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/RNk5EP.jpg
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Note. . .the large building in the far distance on the right. (behind the cluster of white buildings in the middle distance)





#2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/akITNX.jpg

I'm pretty sure this is the same orchard from a different angle. The round cement culvert(s) appears in both.




Sidenote:
I'm looking for the link to the photographs. I thought I found them Here. . .but I don't see them.

If anyone finds the link before I do please let me know.
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GaylordWilshire May 4, 2020 4:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8911677)
:previous:

I remembered that photo because the blond woman looking down in the center looks like the employee who's in charge of the bank deposit boxes in a film I like from 1956...The Man in the Vault. She's even wearing the same outfit, or nearly the same. I don't know the actress's name, it's not in the credits nor on IMDB.


https://i.postimg.cc/0ytL5kkt/maninvaultframe.png
youtube



https://i.imgur.com/bV0KRd7.jpg?1

sopas ej May 4, 2020 5:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8912107)




#2

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/akITNX.jpg

I'm pretty sure this is the same orchard from a different angle. The round cement culvert(s) appears in both.




When I saw the above picture I instantly knew the location. It looks like the orchard was where the sprawling UCLA Medical Center buildings are located now, at the northwest corner of Westwood and LeConte:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0647...2!8i6656?hl=en


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