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Noir_Noir Sep 25, 2019 6:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8697484)

The fight with Chaplin took place at the Club Petroushka, 7016 Hollywood Boulevard. It made the front pages of all the local newspapers on 23 Jan 1924.

It looks like the building survived.

https://i.imgur.com/Vd25Z1d.jpg
GSV


https://i.imgur.com/bbBFSlF.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/EKb5nbO.jpg

Clipped from -

www.archive.org - Screenland - Apr-Sep 1924


Here's a text only version your article e_r.

archive.org - Taylorology - Issue 37 January 1996


Some more on the incident.

discoveringchaplin.com - Battle Of Petroushka

ethereal_reality Sep 26, 2019 2:54 AM

Oh..that C. C. Julian. ...:duh

Thanks Lorendoc and Noir Noir.

"C.C. Julian...a rogue of his day. Killed himself by drinking poison in Shanghai in '33. Penniless, alcoholic and on the run from the US Justive Department
for fraud."


GARY BAGE at discoveringchaplin
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/1rnx0c.jpg
calisphere

" LAST PHOTO; C C Julian in Shanghai China, 9-14-35." ...(but wiki says he died in March of 1934) :shrug:

Someone is obviously wrong unless they rickshawed his dead body around Shanghai for a year.





Besides OIL, it appears that he also owned a Los Angeles radio station. (KMTR)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4vP90O.jpg
tommydangcil

I'm surprised by this.

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ethereal_reality Sep 26, 2019 4:30 AM

Mystery location.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/CV5XWK.jpg
"Buddha Temple" gcah.org


Hmmm...so where was S. Savanna Street? :shrug:




Here's some help.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/P768vP.jpg
LAPL




https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/vdoop2.jpg
LAPL

ummm....I still can't figure it out.... :no:

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ethereal_reality Sep 26, 2019 4:49 AM

Mystery machine.

....Back when the economy of Los Angeles was chiefly agrarian.

rppc: Five Ladies, Two dogs, Steel Wheel 'Tractor', Los Angeles California 1909.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/zgwnI5.jpg
eBay

Growing up in the Midwest..I have seen old steam engine tractors. (at the Hoopeston Sweetcorn Festival)

BUT..and it's a big but..I've never seen one with pullies and gears (or whatever those do-dads are called) like the one shown in this engimatic photograph.



Here's the reverse. note the Los Angeles postmark. (1909)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ePG4ch.jpg
eBay

Was the area around 917 W. 34th Place still rural in 1909?

......................................................................:farmer:

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Lorendoc Sep 26, 2019 5:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8698582)
Mystery location.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/CV5XWK.jpg
"Buddha Temple" gcah.org


Hmmm...so where was S. Savanna Street? :shrug:

It was in Boyle Heights. The 1921 Sanborn puts it at 209 S. Savannah:

https://i.imgur.com/1O04aVL.jpg
lapl.org

The LADBS has a build date for the address as 1910.

Today S. Savannah has been vacated between 2nd and 4th streets and is the site of the Evergreen Recreational Center.


https://i.imgur.com/otlJkit.jpg
GSV

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 26, 2019 5:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8698619)
It was in Boyle Heights. The 1921 Sanborn puts it at 209 S. Savannah:

https://i.imgur.com/1O04aVL.jpg
lapl.org

The LADBS has a build date for the address as 1910.

Today S. Savannah has been vacated between 2nd and 4th streets and is the site of the Evergreen Recreational Center.


https://i.imgur.com/otlJkit.jpg
GSV

Here's a bit more about that temple(in Note 3) from "Issei Buddhism in the Americas":

https://books.google.com/books?id=xF...s%20ca&f=false

CaliNative Sep 26, 2019 9:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8698500)
Oh..that C. C. Julian. ...:duh

Thanks Lorendoc and Noir Noir.

"C.C. Julian...a rogue of his day. Killed himself by drinking poison in Shanghai in '33. Penniless, alcoholic and on the run from the US Justive Department
for fraud."


GARY BAGE at discoveringchaplin
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/1rnx0c.jpg
calisphere

" LAST PHOTO; C C Julian in Shanghai China, 9-14-35." ...(but wiki says he died in March of 1934) :shrug:

Someone is obviously wrong unless they rickshawed his dead body around Shanghai for a year.





Besides OIL, it appears that he also owned a Los Angeles radio station. (KMTR)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/4vP90O.jpg
tommydangcil

I'm surprised by this.

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Is the Hollywood storage (Bekins) building still there? If so, still being used for storage? Quite an imposing structure. The twin radio antennas probably took it well over 300', tall for the time.

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 26, 2019 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8698655)
Is the Hollywood storage (Bekins) building still there? If so, still being used for storage? Quite an imposing structure. The twin radio antennas probably took it well over 300', tall for the time.

Yup, it's still there on Highland.

https://i.postimg.cc/TYzC2n62/Annota...-26-032022.jpgvia GSV

It's still used for storage, now as an Iron Mountain location.

ethereal_reality Sep 26, 2019 11:58 PM

re:..The Buddhist Temple on S. Savanna.

Thanks for the information Lorendoc and BillinGlendale.

fyi:..The early directories spell Savanna without the H...the later directories spell it Savannah, with the H.


Did you all notice the man sitting in the grass in from of the temple?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/AGLmTB.jpg
DETAIL...You can see the complete photograph HERE.

It's obvious the Japanese are trying to create a 'tree arch' by using tether cords. (if you look closely you can spot them). So how, exactly, is this suppose to work?

Do they plan to gradually manipulate (bonsai) the trees together?

Do we have a bonsai expert on the thread?
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FredH Sep 27, 2019 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8698594)
Mystery machine.

....Back when the economy of Los Angeles was chiefly agrarian.

rppc: Five Ladies, Two dogs, Steel Wheel 'Tractor', Los Angeles California 1909.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/zgwnI5.jpg
eBay

Growing up in the Midwest..I have seen old steam engine tractors. (at the Hoopeston Sweetcorn Festival)

BUT..and it's a big but..I've never seen one with pullies and gears (or whatever those do-dads are called) like the one shown in this engimatic photograph.



Here's the reverse. note the Los Angeles postmark. (1909)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ePG4ch.jpg
eBay

Was the area around 917 W. 34th Place still rural in 1909?

......................................................................:farmer:

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E.R. - The ladies are sitting in what looks like an orange grove. Maybe the machine was used to drive between the trees and lift people up to pick oranges? Seems like quite an overkill when a ladder can do the job.

BTW - Could people actually read each others handwriting a hundred years ago? I could stare at some of these postcards for hours and not make it all out.

:surrender:

ethereal_reality Sep 27, 2019 12:21 AM

:previous: Thanks FredH.

Maybe the contraption is an orange juice machine. ;)






Thrifty truck ACCIDENT, Los Angeles Calif. [c.1952]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/j5HAjJ.jpg
eBay






https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/OTQ77m.jpg
eBay




This next slide isn't nearly as clear as the first two.. but it might shed some light on the accident.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/FweoK0.jpg
eBay

To me it looks like a simple case of the Thrifty truck being taller than the lowest branch.

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MartinTurnbull Sep 27, 2019 12:24 AM

Harvey! His name was Harvey!
 
Look at this historical marker that’s been sitting at the southwest corner of Hollywood and Vine since 1953 – that’s 66 years, people! – to commemorate the beginnings of the city of Hollywood. Good idea. Great idea, in fact. Hip hip and hooray for Hollywood. But for gosh-darned sake, would it kill them to get the guy’s name right? It was Harvey Henderson Wilcox who founded Hollywood – not Horace! And his poor wife, Daeida, doesn’t even get mentioned. Apparently “and Mrs” is good enough. Do I really have to point out that Daeida was the one who came up with the name “Hollywood” in the first place?

Is there someone we can call to get this rectified???

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...d-and-Vine.jpg

odinthor Sep 27, 2019 3:30 AM

And "Vine" is from the fact that the street went through the (former?) vineyard of artist Paul de Longpre, who had a nice home and a few garden acres in earliest Hollywood.

GatoVerde Sep 27, 2019 3:52 AM

There is still a Buddhist Temple (Nichiren) on 4th by Saratoga, although I don't if it was the same establishment. If the older photo is of a Nichiren Temple then it likely is. It is very close to Savanah, but there are other Japanese Buddhist Temples and other Japanese churches in proximity as well.

http://califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/nichiren.png

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8698582]Mystery location.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/CV5XWK.jpg
"Buddha Temple" gcah.org

ethereal_reality Sep 27, 2019 3:58 AM

odinthor is correct, of course.


As a reminder (and for newbies)..here is the de Longpre house in Hollywood.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/PDYDA1.jpg
lacurbed

"The flower-covered grounds of the De Longpre estate were toured by as many as 8,000 people every month."


The article at Curbed Los Angeles is excellent. You can check it out HERE.

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Lorendoc Sep 27, 2019 4:14 AM

[QUOTE=GatoVerde;8699687]There is still a Buddhist Temple (Nichiren) on 4th by Saratoga, although I don't if it was the same establishment. If the older photo is of a Nichiren Temple then it likely is. It is very close to Savanah, but there are other Japanese Buddhist Temples and other Japanese churches in proximity as well.

http://califaztlan.org/LANoirPics/nichiren.png

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8698582)

E_R's photo corresponds to the 209 S. Savannah address - look at the Sanborn's depiction of the building's footprint: it shows a 3 story rectangular structure with a 2 story porch in front.

MartinTurnbull Sep 27, 2019 5:14 AM

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;8699690]odinthor is correct, of course.


As a reminder (and for newbies)..here is the de Longpre house in Hollywood.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/PDYDA1.jpg
lacurbed

Someone who follows my Facebook page has pointed out that Daeida Wilcox did, in fact, get her own damned plaque, which even managed to spell her unusual name correctly!

https://martinturnbull.com/wp-conten...ida-Wilcox.jpg

GaylordWilshire Sep 27, 2019 5:00 PM

:previous:


Between the time Paul de Longpré arrived in LA and his being lured to Hollywood by the Wilcoxes,
he rented a house that was on the site of the auto club. Read all about it here:
2601 S Figueroa Street

https://i.postimg.cc/fyGQRBJ5/WAD260...credit-bmp.jpg

ethereal_reality Sep 27, 2019 8:42 PM

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Here's a truly intriguing 'mystery' roof-top garden. (complete with fountain) ....$44.95


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/h3uOKq.jpg
eBay

....note the skylight :previous: in the foreground.




Written on the reverse: "Lowe's Chinese Restaurant in L. A. (friend of Little Charlie)"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/XvhXs3.jpg

Did Lowe's really have a chinese restaurant with a roof garden..or is the Lowe's sign, visible at far right, actually across the street? :shrug:




Does anyone recognize the dome?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/D05KjN.jpg
DETAIL

It doesn't appear to match the dome on the Warner Bros. downtown theater (previously the Pantages). . .or the dome on the Trinity Auditorium.

Maybe we could ask that guy in the window. ;)

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BillinGlendaleCA Sep 27, 2019 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8700435)
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Does anyone recognize the dome?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/D05KjN.jpg
DETAIL

It doesn't appear to match the dome on the Warner Bros. downtown theater (previously the Pantages). . .or the dome on the Trinity Auditorium.

Maybe we could ask that guy in the window. ;)

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I'm not the guy in the window, but I think that's the Hillstreet(RKO)Theater's dome that was at 8th and Hill.


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