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Bristolian Sep 17, 2018 3:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8316935)
That came to my mind too. There are still incidents of cars plunging over roadside cliffs in Palos Verdes just about every year.

My best guess is we're seeing an incident that happened at (or very near) Sacred Cove, just a bit south of Portuguese Bend. The road there is always very rough because the land is slowly but steadily sliding toward the ocean. Palos Verdes Drive is continually being patched in that area; if you check the satellite view of Google Maps you can see numerous patches made to the road.

If there was a car chase happening, the Cadillac was likely driving much too fast to handle that very rough road, and the driver lost control. I've driven through there several times and I know how drastically one must slow down.

Incidentally, Sacred Cove offered the only nude beach in Los Angeles County for many years.

I cruised all along the Palos Verdes coast via Google Earth and saw a number of places where there is a rocky beach not too far from the nearest road. The old photos don't seem to offer any other clues. Your guess makes sense. Besides being a rough stretch of road, Palos Verdes Drive also takes a turn right there adding to the chances that the old Caddy, not known for its road racing abilities might have veered off the road and down onto the beach.

https://i.imgur.com/jNXcJ6Z.png?3Google Earth

Martin Pal Sep 17, 2018 4:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8316648)
https://i.postimg.cc/QdCv2cQv/byebye.gif
[source: Warner Home Video]


Love it!

Yes, that's it Handsome Stranger, thanks for that!

Martin Pal Sep 17, 2018 4:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8316858)
Okay, I'll try one more time with these ^#*?!% "Father on leave from Camp Pendleson" slides. 1951 - 1953.

HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA

EBAY asking $249.99
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Kxl5uD.jpgEBAY
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I'd never heard of these 1953 RKO films, so I looked them up.

Devil's Canyon starred Virginia Mayo and Dale Robertson. There are several films with that title
from the following years: 1935, 1953, 2007, 2011 and even a 2017 TV series with that title.

Second Chance is a film starring Robert Mitchum and Linda Darnell. There are also several films
with the title of Second Chance: 1947, 1953, two separate films from 2016 and also a 2016 TV series.
There are also these variations: A 2nd Chance (2011), A Second Chance (2018) and The Second Chance (2006).

There are some plural "chances", too: Second Chances (1998), Second Chances (TV Movie 2010) and
Second Chances (TV Movie 2013).

Based on this, I would not name a film or TV show either of these titles again! :)



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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8316858)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/9XxkIS.jpg
EBAY asking $199.99
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Unless it just didn't register before when I've seen photos of the NBC Radio City building, I never noticed the "marquees" over the doors like the one to the right of the "N" in the watermark,
where those three people are up to something.

I cannot make out any of the writing here, though. :shrug:


Related:

c. 1942

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7202/6...67db3ed4_b.jpgFlickr

This brochure for the NBC Radio City Studio TOur at Sunset & Vine has been posted before and I've seen it online in various places,
but I recently came across this one I'd not seen before:

https://www.bolerium.com/pictures/228580.jpgBolerium

The seller says it's undated but believes it's c. 1940's.

https://www.bolerium.com/pictures/228580_2.jpgBolerium

GaylordWilshire Sep 17, 2018 7:11 PM

While we're on the subject of cars over cliffs...


https://i.postimg.cc/rFQp4Rv7/madworldcrash.bmp.jpg
Video Link

Flyingwedge Sep 17, 2018 7:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8316305)
Can anyone fill in the background to this story? The car appears to be a 1950 Cadillac. The full photoset has six images, but I think these capture the important angles. No location is given - the images come from the Los Angeles Examiner Negatives Collection.

Car over cliff in police chase, 25 October 1951.

The incident drew a small crowd.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rashedCar2.jpg

A close-up of the car.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...rashedCar3.jpg

All from USC Digital Library

Hoss, I looked in the LA Times and the Palos Verdes Peninsula News but found no mention of this accident.

If the people in the first photo are standing on the side of the road, I don't think the accident could have been in the Portugese Bend
area of Palos Verdes. Palos Verdes Drive is not as low and close to the ocean there as the road seems to be in the accident photos.
I don't see all that many dents in the Cadillac or much broken glass (the windshield seems intact), so I don't think the car fell very far.

Perhaps the accident happened elsewhere in Palos Verdes, or on Pacific Coast Hwy. up in Malibu or further north?

AlvaroLegido Sep 17, 2018 7:28 PM

Tenor voices
 
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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8316195)
The first person we see is Eddie Fisher.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/HgfqHg.jpg

I didn't know Eddie Fisher so I listened to him. He had a beautiful tenor voice, similar to Tony Martin's. I have noticed that high voices in popular music are not appreciated for long. The general public favors mid-range voices - baritones like Dean Martin, Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Dick Haymes, Ray Eberle... The same for female singers - mezzos-sopranos (or altos) like Jo Stafford, Billie Holiday, Judy Garland...).
But in classical music it is the opposite : tenors and sopranos are those who become famous.

GaylordWilshire Sep 17, 2018 7:34 PM

And custody of the Continental goes to...


Eddie & Debbie leave Liz's house after news of Mike's death...

https://i.postimg.cc/X7d9wLVX/fisher...aveliz.bmp.jpg



Eddie & Liz canoodle in the back seat at LAX...

https://i.postimg.cc/P5FfNGBD/fisherlcliz.bmp.jpg



Debbie takes possession...

https://i.postimg.cc/ZRSG5VK3/fisher...drives.bmp.jpg



Back on top--arriving at Paramount for shooting on The Pleasure of His Company (released 1961)...

https://i.postimg.cc/6qSzypLS/fisherlcdeb2.bmp.jpg

Flyingwedge Sep 17, 2018 7:43 PM

More Santa Monica Incline
 
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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8315618)

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psdjy5xspp.jpg

December 27, 1913, Los Angeles Herald @ CDNC


I just found this 1924 image that provides a good look at the location of the incline railway -- which may not
have been in operation at the time -- and adjacent stairs:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psrjnorbvv.jpg

487597 at Huntington Digital Library


This enlargement of part of a 1915 image that e_r posted shows the same location. Below the yellow dot is the
small building we see at the top of the incline in the other two photos:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6imup504.jpg

HossC Sep 17, 2018 8:44 PM

:previous:

Looking at the lower portion of the HDL photo...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AOceanWay1.jpg
Huntington Digital Library

...I think I found a survivor on Ocean Way.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AOceanWay2.jpg
Google Maps

Lomara Sep 17, 2018 8:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8317565)
:previous:

Looking at the lower portion of the HDL photo...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AOceanWay1.jpg
Huntington Digital Library

...I think I found a survivor on Ocean Way.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AOceanWay2.jpg
Google Maps

There's another home that appears to have survived at first glance at 49 Maybery Rd. (corner of Ocean and Maybery) But when I looked a bit closer, its build date is 1930 - 6 years after that HDL incline photo. It appears to have been rebuilt using the same footprint/foundation as the original structure.

Lomara Sep 17, 2018 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8317565)
:previous:



...I think I found a survivor on Ocean Way.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...AOceanWay2.jpg
Google Maps

Looks like the survivor sold last year for about $11m

https://www.redfin.com/CA/Santa-Moni...2/home/6840364


Photos from the last listing:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1877/...6ac4e6392b.jpg
Screen Shot 2018-09-17 at 14.10.34 by Kimberly, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1892/...8f779f5ed7.jpg
Screen Shot 2018-09-17 at 14.10.45 by Kimberly, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1878/...74b733813e.jpg
Screen Shot 2018-09-17 at 14.12.32 by Kimberly, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1884/...65151522af.jpg
Screen Shot 2018-09-17 at 14.12.57 by Kimberly, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1849/...d317c10802.jpg
Screen Shot 2018-09-17 at 14.13.27 by Kimberly, on Flickr

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1851/...40050fb6bd.jpg
Screen Shot 2018-09-17 at 14.13.40 by Kimberly, on Flickr

GaylordWilshire Sep 17, 2018 10:01 PM

:previous:


https://i.postimg.cc/pdgv3rXd/102oceanway.bmp.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/NGDVHLqr/102oceanway1981.bmp.jpg
LAT May 21, 1922/May 30, 1981


https://i.postimg.cc/rmTKrfXc/1020ceangsv.bmp.jpg

odinthor Sep 17, 2018 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8317435)
While we're on the subject of cars over cliffs...


https://i.postimg.cc/rFQp4Rv7/madworldcrash.bmp.jpg
Video Link

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Let's not forget It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World's contribution to the subject of cars over cliffs (though in Palm Desert, not L.A.):

https://i.postimg.cc/qR0Tss6N/car.jpg
https://onset.shotonwhat.com/gallery...344.1537223754

ethereal_reality Sep 17, 2018 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 8315336)
Did Catalina had a tram too? I found this 1964 snapshots in the Handsome Family photo archives. The snap suggests we're looking out the side of a tram.
And my then-8-year-old sister could never have been talked into walking that far up the hillside at Avalon.

https://s33.postimg.cc/hje3n8n8f/09_...o_Catalina.jpg

Good question Handsome Stranger.

Yes, there were trams on Catalina.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/5c9ihy.jpg
EBAY






Now that I refreshed your memory...can you remember your tour guide at all? Was it Jim, Pete, Gene, Johnny or Ray? ;)


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/AYb8l2.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/Ykw1QF.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/LY3aSG.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/GVtvY6.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/dPHBJn.jpg

ethereal_reality Sep 18, 2018 12:19 AM

Does anyone recognize this movie car crash?

https://imageshack.com/a/img923/695/1xhc4q.gif

found HERE

ethereal_reality Sep 18, 2018 12:27 AM

This isn't a crash...but it's a swell idea for a car wash.

https://imageshack.com/a/img924/1598/xmgtXR.gif

from HERE

The information says it's from a Buster Keaton movie.

(Roscoe Arbuckle is also mentioned)

Handsome Stranger Sep 18, 2018 1:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8317779)
This isn't a crash...but it's a swell idea for a car wash.

https://imageshack.com/a/img924/1598/xmgtXR.gif

The information says it's from a Buster Keaton movie.

(Roscoe Arbuckle is also mentioned)

That's from The Garage, 1920. It's actually an Arbuckle film in which Keaton appears. Their last collaboration.

Video Link

ethereal_reality Sep 18, 2018 1:26 AM

:previous: Thanks Handsome Stranger. :)



Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

There's one more of the gate I'll post when I return to Lafayette.

Secretaries and other personnel leaving, and entering, Paramount through the gate. [1951-53]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Reh0gP.jpg
DETAIL




The complete slide.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/uiRE2q.jpg
EBAY





I overlooked this one yesterday.

The Hollywood Bowl looking very BLUE! [also 1951-53]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/XQejJM.jpg
EBAY

and freshly painted.


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BillinGlendaleCA Sep 18, 2018 4:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8317835)

The Hollywood Bowl looking very BLUE! [also 1951-53]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/XQejJM.jpg
EBAY

and freshly painted.


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Shadows tend to have a blue tint.

BillinGlendaleCA Sep 18, 2018 6:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. rollers (Post 8313951)
All the best stuff I have is here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr-rol...57623284135719, but just the five old ones, unfortunately.

I can't remember exactly how we found ourselves at the Old Zoo that day - maybe I had heard it had been recently re-opened to the public after having been fenced off for many years, although obviously, a lot of folks had snuck in during that time. At least I had a camera with me, but I think the five shots I took were the end of the roll, and for unknown reasons I didn't return to shoot more photos until years later.

I went through the Old Zoo today while out riding my bike through Griffith Park, and from looking at things I'm beginning to suspect that the building in the upper right of the "panorama" might be the "zookeeper's house", taken from the opposite angle to the postcard.

I visited the Old Zoo 3 times last week, I'm not sure how that could be the zookeeper's house on the right side of the 'panorama'. I looked up aerial view of the Old Zoo from UCSB's Frame Finder and overlaid an image from Google Maps.
(Hope this works...Spoiler alert, it didn't work so here they are side by side.)
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1871/...ab8345b9_b.jpgoldzoo-sidebyside by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

I'm leaning towards the photo of the little building(I agree with Oldstuff that it's a restroom), being at the old entrance(that flat area at the left side of the picture below) with the building to the right at the location of the current restroom.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1844/...47488a14_b.jpg_9130001.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

Here's a pic of area around the zookeeper's house with the house on the right side as in the 'panorama'.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1886/...94335e07_b.jpg_9140008.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

The zookeeper's house:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1882/...438057c5_h.jpg_9130008-Pano.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

Could this red rock in the wall be from the old courthouse?
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1843/...b3bd1f9e_b.jpg_9110014.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

An overview of ER's 'track' with the cages on the edge, Bee Rock is in the background:
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1842/...97a3bb81_b.jpg_9110006.jpg by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr


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