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Tourmaline Jul 13, 2018 3:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8250035)
Yes it does:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/20....2119542?hl=en

It's is a block west from one of my favorite casual dining Mexican restaurants, Taco Spot.

Thanks. "Peekaboo" seems appropriate. GSV clearly caught an active film crew and it distracted me from noticing the obvious.;)

oldstuff Jul 13, 2018 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8249902)
The main problem is that different parts of the trees will potentially grow differently. Consequently, you'd have to mind your p's and q's to make sure that, say, the Orange portion of the tree didn't crowd out (and maybe kill) the Lemon portion of the tree, just because one grows faster and the other slower. But part of the fun of gardening is trying new things and seeing how it goes!

We got one of those grafted trees about 30 years ago. Initially it did (sort of) produce the different fruit, but then it started only doing White Marsh grapefruit, which was one of the two kinds of grapefruit it supposedly had. We presumed that it only got properly pollinated with that fruit since there were none of the other kinds in the neighborhood and there was a very happy and old, White Marsh across the street. Now that is all it will produce, no more lemons, oranges or limes. It was initially five types of citrus.

HossC Jul 13, 2018 4:00 PM

I found this postcard with the following caption at jhgraham.com:

"It’s doubtful anyone actually counted them, but the midway’s “Walk of a Thousand Lights” lit up the Pike at night all the way to Chestnut Place."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...000Lights1.jpg
jhgraham.com

While I was reading the page above, I saw this picture of the Victory Fountain:

"The Victory Fountain was a new addition to the north end of the Pike at Chestnut Place in September 1926 in remembrance of World War I veterans. Designed by Edwardes Sproat, it stood 45-ft. high and was equipped with electric lights that flashed in time to the water’s spray. At the top was a mirrored ball that reflected the lights at night. Postcard view and 9-26-26 LA Times."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...emorialLB1.jpg
jhgraham.com

You can see the statue in this aerial I posted the other day. It's the oval structure just below the center.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8248161)

Here's a closer view from 1926.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
UCLA

The statue's obviously not there now, but I can't even see it on the 1953 aerial view. I found someone else looking for it at millikanalumni.com:
We are assembling an inventory of all WWI memorials and monuments in the US, and I'm having a hard time figuring out what happened to the American Legion Victory Fountain erected on the north end of the Pike in 1926.

I found an article in the Long Beach Independent from 1941 that discussed the possibility of moving the fountain to the south side of Memorial Auditorium, but I lose the trail after that (and don't know if the fountain was ever moved there). I'd be grateful for any help/clues.

Thanks,

Mark Levitch, PhD, World War I Memorial Inventory Project
Does anyone know what happened to the memorial?

LAPL has a couple more pictures here and here.

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2018 6:08 PM

:previous: Hoss, I had no idea the Victory Fountain ever existed!

How in the world did the City of Long Beach allow something this grand to seemingly disappear? :shrug:

If the PH.D hadn't picked up its trail in 1941...I would have bet money the fountain was destroyed in the 1933 EARTHQUAKE.
_____

...when I first laid eyes on it I thought it looked like an American cousin of the Albert Memorial in London U.K.

odinthor Jul 13, 2018 7:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8250212)
:previous: Hoss, I had no idea the Victory Fountain ever existed!

How in the world did the City of Long Beach allow something this grand to seemingly disappear? :shrug:

(if the PH.D, mentioned in Hoss' post, hadn't picked up it's trail in 1941...I would have bet money the fountain was destroyed in the 1933 EARTHQUAKE)
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p.s...when I first laid eyes on it I thought it looked like an American cousin of the Albert Memorial in London U.K.

odinthor's pic of the Albert Memorial (in 1985).

https://s26.postimg.cc/welpnbkft/Albert_Mem.jpg
odinthor collection; photographer: odinthor

How did Long Beach allow something this grand to disappear? Long Beach is like that, e_r. Long Beach once had a nice long beach alongside downtown. :hell:

Lorendoc Jul 13, 2018 8:15 PM

civic amnesia
 
https://i.imgur.com/JIPCl0R.jpg
Long Beach Independent 10/18/1962

But:

https://i.imgur.com/NUBGPX9.jpg
Long Beach Independent 4/26/1940

The Veterans Memorial Building was at 245 W. Broadway.

tovangar2 Jul 13, 2018 8:49 PM

:previous:

Do they mean here?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xp...p=w736-h586-no
the living new deal

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2018 9:05 PM

If, by chance, the Victory Fountain (or parts of it) was moved to 245 W. Broadway....it's gone now. :(

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/CGGwYO.jpg
google_earth

Lorendoc Jul 13, 2018 9:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 8250376)
:previous:

Do they mean here?

Yes, I think so. Demolished 1978.

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2018 9:07 PM

So what was there between 1978 and now?

Lorendoc Jul 13, 2018 9:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8250404)
So what was there between 1978 and now?

Hmm, the historicaerials.com has a good view of the Veterans building (nec Broadway and Cedar) in 1972; the next aerial from 1980 shows construction of a modern-oid looking office bldg (apartments?), which seems to have been torn down for the construction you pointed out.

1972:
https://i.imgur.com/fMWLjEP.jpg

1980:
https://i.imgur.com/axax8rN.jpg

sopas ej Jul 13, 2018 9:24 PM

:previous:

Yeah, it was the California Veterans Memorial State Office Building from the early 1980s.

I can't find a picture of it at the moment...

Ah, here we go:

https://i0.wp.com/la.streetsblog.org...45WBroad01.jpg
lastreetsblog.com

HossC Jul 13, 2018 9:41 PM

:previous:

The old building is still visible on older GSV images.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

Info on the new building can be found here.

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2018 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8249773)
I'm astounded that I can't find a picture of the midway showing why it was called the "Walk of 1,000 Lights".

I just found this 1932 image of the 'Walk of 1,000 Lights' odinthor.
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Do ya'll see what's at the end of the walk? It's the elusive Victory Fountain!!!

1932
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/355BVp.jpg
HSLB

The historical society's prominent watermark pretty much ruins the photograph. :( Why so damn BIG?

ethereal_reality Jul 13, 2018 10:11 PM

The Grand Stairway in the Hotel Virginia.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Pak14V.jpg
ebay collection




The lighted statue:

if you look closely the young maiden is holding a basket of flowers (lightbulbs) and has raised a bouquet of flowers (lightbulbs again) above her head.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/C7I5Dh.jpg

at least that's what I see. :shrug:

_

Scott Charles Jul 13, 2018 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8249902)
The main problem is that different parts of the trees will potentially grow differently. Consequently, you'd have to mind your p's and q's to make sure that, say, the Orange portion of the tree didn't crowd out (and maybe kill) the Lemon portion of the tree, just because one grows faster and the other slower. But part of the fun of gardening is trying new things and seeing how it goes!

Thanks, Odinthor!

CityBoyDoug Jul 14, 2018 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8250473)
The Grand Stairway in the Hotel Virginia.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Pak14V.jpg
ebay collection




The lighted statue:

if you look closely the young maiden is holding a basket of flowers (lightbulbs) and has raised a bouquet of flowers (lightbulbs again) above her head.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/C7I5Dh.jpg

at least that's what I see. :shrug:

_

Plus tons of scagliola columns and stair detailings.

Lorendoc Jul 14, 2018 4:00 AM

"Civic Cuspidor" of "atrocious design"
 
Here is the oldest available aerial from historicaerials.com (1953).

https://i.imgur.com/ohtLpOk.jpg

The Victory Fountain should be at the "x" but there is nothing there nor is there a shadow apparent, compared with the 1939 UCSB aerial that HossC posted.

I'd say the likelihood of it mouldering somewhere in a warehouse is pretty low in view of the following:

https://i.imgur.com/YnkxmaT.jpg
Long Beach Independent 3/29/1940 via newspapers.com

CityBoyDoug Jul 14, 2018 4:00 PM

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/593/3...ce984d_o_d.jpgflickr
1951 Wayfarers Chapel in Rancho Palos Verdes

I believe the photo slide is 1958

Lwize Jul 14, 2018 5:24 PM

A final tour through the LA Times building:

http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...13-story.html#

http://www.latimes.com/resizer/pv03m...CGAYVY4NRE.jpg
(LATimes)


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