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Noir_Noir Jun 26, 2018 11:02 AM

Lalo's Club
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8233043)


You can read about Lalo Guerrero HERE, and HERE (Part 2)
His story is very interesting.

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Thanks for the links e_r.

A few more bits and pieces on Lalo's Club.

https://i.imgur.com/8OLL9mN.jpg
http://markguerrero.com/lalo_page.php


Two pictures from inside the club in 1965. In the first Lalo is introducing his son's band Mark and the Escorts.

https://i.imgur.com/7hIyRJ4.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gta9rey.jpg

http://markguerrero.com/escorts_2.php

GaylordWilshire Jun 26, 2018 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8232723)
Cyndihdz
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/uQs7Mr.jpg
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thanks for your help Cyndi!

You're right, Bank of America occupies the bottom corner of the building -but the second floor definitely appears to be some kind of assembly hall (masons?)
If only we could read the green canopy at the farther end of the building. That entrance probably leads upstairs. (& if we could read the two smaller blade signs)


afterthought:
We might have figured all this out earlier in the thread..but my memory fails me.
Does anyone remember our earlier findings?



http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

HossC found it back in 2015 in post 31364....


Makes sense that there'd have been a ballroom upstairs.... Wonder if we'll ever find an inside view?

https://s8.postimg.cc/4a9vkye1h/HPballroomflyer.jpg

oldstuff Jun 26, 2018 2:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8233073)
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

HossC found it back in 2015 in post 31364....


Makes sense that there'd have been a ballroom upstairs.... Wonder if we'll ever find an inside view?

https://s8.postimg.cc/4a9vkye1h/HPballroomflyer.jpg

They have apparently changed the street numbering as the building is now listed with the County Assessor's office as 6124 Pacific Blvd. They have the build date of the building as 1928. The square footage of the building is 19,400, a substantial size. It is now a 99 Cent Store. Some of the upstairs windows on the ends have been bricked in leaving only the middle six as actual windows. The six remaining windows appear to be original with the paned tilt out centers and metal framing. The cornice above the windows and the pilasters between them remain but now stucco or painted over and quite generic.

They do not seem to have messed with the domed roof. There are, what appears to be, two extensions on the back of the building. The one closest to the main part seems to contain the workings of an elevator, while the one nearest the alley seems just to be enclosed space.

A close up of the cupola on top of the dome reveals what looks like a six to eight sided structure with a vent fan at the back, presumably to cool the upstairs part before AC. There are a few windows at the upper part of the back which look like they were originally the size of the ones in front but which have been made smaller and are now covered with bars.

The address to the upstairs part, which has it's own entrance to the right in front, is listed as being 6130, as it says on the poster for the benefit, although the glass doors to that entrance are painted out and presumably locked. Probably now a fire exit for the upstairs. It is probably used as storage to the 99 Cent Store., as it does not appear to hold any other business
Anyone want to go there and ask to see the upstairs?

Note: the blade signs in the older photo say "Dancing" and what appears to be "Ball Room"

Noir_Noir Jun 26, 2018 5:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8233073)
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original

HossC found it back in 2015 in post 31364....


Makes sense that there'd have been a ballroom upstairs.... Wonder if we'll ever find an inside view?


Video Link



This Guns N' Roses video from 1987 was apparently shot in the ballroom at 6130 Pacific Blvd. There's only one fleeting wide shot glimpse of the interior in the video.


https://i.imgur.com/Ptn7Ki0.jpg



Called Mendiola's Ballroom it had a very brief stint as a punk rock venue in 1983 until this happened -

https://i.imgur.com/NmM2aQO.jpg
Seventh Planet Productions

GaylordWilshire Jun 26, 2018 8:41 PM

:previous:

Excellent find, NN



Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8232723)



And I notice that the bus is another GMC similar to this one...

https://s8.postimg.cc/rr7an8rid/graduatebus.jpg
IMCDB

Apparently not actually a Santa Barbara bus, bit one tricked out like one. The church scene was filmed about 30 miles east of the ballroom, in
La Verne.... Assume the bus scene was filmed out there too....? I think we've covered the church here before.

Beaudry Jun 26, 2018 10:09 PM

Apropos of nothing—

—been cleaning up around the place, which has involved digging up a lot of old brick, including these, which I stacked like so in my garage. Of all the people who might care about LAPBCo, I imagine some of them are on this forum, so here ya go.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1788/...416e6973_h.jpg

odinthor Jun 26, 2018 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 8233851)
Apropos of nothing—

—been cleaning up around the place, which has involved digging up a lot of old brick, including these, which I stacked like so in my garage. Of all the people who might care about LAPBCo, I imagine some of them are on this forum, so here ya go.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1788/...416e6973_h.jpg


Bricks are highly interesting to me. (I'm being serious!) Thanks, Beaudry!

Beaudry Jun 27, 2018 4:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8233864)
Bricks are highly interesting to me. (I'm being serious!) Thanks, Beaudry!

Well in that case—my property also has this low arroyo-stone wall that someone decided to raise a few inches with the inclusion of brick. (Or it was designed this way from the get-go, but I think that unlikely.)

The bricks read PSP which indicates they're from the Pacific Sewer Pipe plant which was just down the street from me in Lincoln Heights.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/924/2...4dde783e_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/925/4...56f947ec_b.jpg

MartinTurnbull Jun 27, 2018 4:43 AM

This Architect Designed LA City Hall — And Most Of DTLA's Other Famous Buildings
 
LAist.com just posted a story about John Parkinson, who is the subject of a new documentary, Iconic Vision: John Parkinson, Architect of Los Angeles, which premieres on PBS SoCal on July 5, 2018

http://laist.com/attachments/kpcc_mr...on06262018.jpg


http://laist.com/2018/06/26/this_arc...a_city_hal.php

sadykadie2 Jun 27, 2018 5:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8233864)
Bricks are highly interesting to me. (I'm being serious!) Thanks, Beaudry!

The article was fascinating. Didn't stop to look at the different types of brick before, but I sure will now:tup:

Lorendoc Jun 27, 2018 5:32 AM

more early LAX
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231878)
Here's one more before I call it a night.

'Orig 1958 Kodak Star 35mm Slide LAX Airport Parking Lot Los Angeles CA Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DsZbS6.jpg
EBAY

This lot appears to be on the outer edge of the airport. I wonder where [in the scheme of things] this parking lot was located.

(anyone have a map of LAX from this time period?

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I'm pretty sure you are looking at the main parking lot adjacent to the terminals lining Avion Way on its loop off of Century Boulevard.

Here is how the LAT diagrammed the expected results of the move of the airlines from Burbank to LAX which took place in December, 1946. This cartoon shows what airlines were to be located in which terminals and hangars.

https://i.imgur.com/nM9lKCg.jpg
LAT 10/20/46 via UCLA

The structure I've circled in red at the bottom left of the cartoon is Hangar No. 1, the first building built at Mines Field shortly after it opened in 1928. It is a handsome Spanish colonial revival, and somehow has avoided the wrecker's ball. It was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1992, and is still in use. Here's a current view:

https://i.imgur.com/pC48ucG.jpg
Google Creative Commons

Here is a UCSB aerial from 1955 which shows that almost all the projected terminals got built, except the Pan Am hanger. I've put the numbers from the cartoon caption on top of each terminal building:

https://i.imgur.com/K5gENIp.jpg
UCSB


Today, Nos. 1, 2, and 3 seem to still be there as can be seen from this aerial view:

https://i.imgur.com/dmmipdY.jpg
GSV

The closest I could get the googlemobile to the old terminal buildings was this:

https://i.imgur.com/QVUF0m5.jpg

… in which can be see the original Western, United, and American hangars are also survivors. Not very distinctive at this late day, I'm afraid.


The pre-1961 terminal layout explains the name of "Airport Boulevard". I have always driven on or past that street noting it doesn't go particularly close to the modern airport. But it certainly did from 1946 to 1961, it was principal way to reach the main terminal area from the north.

Lastly, here is a fun video from 1954:
Video Link



Thanks Scott Charles for the embedding tip!

Scott Charles Jun 27, 2018 6:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8234268)
Lastly, here is a fun video from 1954:
Video Link



As I can never seem to be able to embed video here, here is the URL for the YouTube vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8PQJXE5Nu8

It’s a little tricky… it took me a while to figure it out.

First you copy the identifier of the video - it’s the part that comes after “v=” in the URL (the V stands for video). In this case it’s “j8PQJXE5Nu8”:

Code:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8PQJXE5Nu8
Then you paste that identifier in between the YOUTUBE tags, like so:

HTML Code:

[YOUTUBE]j8PQJXE5Nu8[/YOUTUBE]
Which gives you this:

Video Link


Not very intuitive, I know. :help:

ScottyB Jun 27, 2018 6:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231241)
X MARKS THE SPOT
'mystery' location. [c.1948]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/VID2nj.jpg
EBAY

"X marks where we lived in Los Angeles Calif. 1948."

info. on the back
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/8F9Eiq.jpg

I thought it might be a fun to try and figure out where exactly this person lived.





close-up of the lower 1/3 of the photo
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DyLtZO.jpg
DETAIL

Anyone recognized any of these buildings? -or perhaps the tall hill the photographer is standing on?

(a couple of the buildings looked familiar to me but they didn't pan out)


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Been puzzling on this one for a while. The unusual street alignment (<) suggests York Blvd. and Alumni Ave. in Eagle Rock (which would put Occidental College in the fuzzy right edge of the scan) , but it is a challenge to make the perspective work.Here's *kind of* from where the shot would had to have been taken (I suspect zoom lens distortion is adding to my confusion). Not sure it really works.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1821/...2e5a013f_b.jpg
USGS

ethereal_reality Jun 27, 2018 7:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 8233062)
This is from inside the club in 1965. Lalo is introducing his son's band Mark and the Escorts.

https://i.imgur.com/7hIyRJ4.jpg
http://markguerrero.com/escorts_2.php

https://i.imgur.com/gta9rey.jpg
http://markguerrero.com/escorts_2.php

WOW...how'd you ever find family photos Noir Noir. Great detective work!




"What iz yor secret in finding deez fotos?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/oqP3cc.jpg
I WAKE UP SCREAMING

spill da beans...or swim wit the fishes."




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HossC Jun 27, 2018 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8234268)

Here is a UCSB aerial from 1955 which shows that almost all the projected terminals got built, except the Pan Am hanger. I've put the numbers from the cartoon caption on top of each terminal building:

https://i.imgur.com/K5gENIp.jpg
UCSB

I posted Julius Shulman pictures of a couple of those buildings just over a year ago. I've picked out two below - the full post, including a side-by-side comparison, is here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7790094)

It's a relatively easy location to identify from Julius Shulman today. This is "Job 139: John Kewell, Airline Buildings, 1947".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

You can see the Western Air Lines building on the far right of this picture of the United Air Lines building. Note that I'm writing "Air Lines" as two words in each case to reflect the signage.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute


HossC Jun 27, 2018 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231241)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyB (Post 8234285)

Been puzzling on this one for a while. The unusual street alignment (<) suggests York Blvd. and Alumni Ave. in Eagle Rock (which would put Occidental College in the fuzzy right edge of the scan) , but it is a challenge to make the perspective work.Here's *kind of* from where the shot would had to have been taken (I suspect zoom lens distortion is adding to my confusion). Not sure it really works.

You're not the only one who's been stumped by this one, ScottyB. I think you've found a good match for the street layout, but the buildings seen
in the 1948 (the year written on the back of e_r's photo) aerial below aren't the ones in the image above. I guess the search continues...

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...leRock1948.jpg
Historic Aerials

Matt Maxwell Jun 27, 2018 4:23 PM

Hey folks, dropping back in to thank everyone for their research and postings. Trying to get caught up after being away for awhile is...daunting.

In the meantime, here's some neon from Eagle Rock (on Colorado Blvd.)

Ugh. Posting a link as I don't have a reliable image hosting platform at the moment. (Yahoo password not working for Flickr and I haven't been able to fix that yet.)

Highway 62 Revisited

Okay, trying linking to Flickr again since maybe I got the account working.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1808/..." height="576"

Lorendoc Jun 27, 2018 7:40 PM

mystery location
 
I have been puzzling over the location of the hilltop view along with others. The structures in the original photo look more sparse than the aerials of York avenue from 1948 suggest.

http://imageshack.com/i/pl8F9Eiqj


I wonder how much we can trust the date, it looks like it is written in a different hand with a different pen.

BillinGlendaleCA Jun 27, 2018 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorendoc (Post 8234983)
I have been puzzling over the location of the hilltop view along with others. The structures in the original photo look more sparse than the aerials of York avenue from 1948 suggest.

I wonder how much we can trust the date, it looks like it is written in a different hand with a different pen.

If it's York, I'd think Sparkletts would be in the picture, they've been at that location since the 20's.

tovangar2 Jun 28, 2018 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231241)
X MARKS THE SPOT
'mystery' location. [c.1948]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/VID2nj.jpg
EBAY

"X marks where we lived in Los Angeles Calif. 1948."

...

I thought it might be a fun to try and figure out where exactly this person lived.





close-up of the lower 1/3 of the photo
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DyLtZO.jpg
DETAIL

Anyone recognized any of these buildings? -or perhaps the tall hill the photographer is standing on?

(a couple of the buildings looked familiar to me but they didn't pan out)


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How about 3314 Division in Glassell Park?:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4W...=w1069-h572-no
google maps

Hill behind:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/De...B=w701-h445-no
gsv of 3314 Division

Shops across the street:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VO...y=w924-h598-no
gsv

Looking down from the 1800 block of Burnell Dr:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Rr...=w1147-h580-no
gsv

And...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ev...r=w776-h254-no
per e_r

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9Q...O=w644-h508-no
google maps


ETA
Here's a plot plan from 1941, so it was a church even then (at least round the back). Dunno if it was a Four Square Church of the Open Door then like it is now:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TI...L=w362-h502-no
ladbs


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