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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2018 5:28 AM

Thanks for all the follow-ups on the Martin House vs Air Holes)
so we're....undecided then :shrug: half says bird house...half says vent holes

Don't you have to occasionally clean out birdhouses?

odinthor, is there a way to gain entry into the birdhouse from inside your attic?
You know, like a removable panel that you can unscrew.
Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 8231340)

Here's a pic NLA has seen before of Schloss Odinthor, built in 1957,
with odinthor himself, built in 1954, engaged in some nefarious task:

https://s26.postimg.cc/iqinz2rgp/TorsoLo.jpg
gsv

At the peak is . . . what has always been called the Ornamental Bird House:

I've never heard an explanation of this feature, in which birds take a singular lack of interest.

:previous: I didn't notice the birdhouse the first time you posted this photo odinthor. I'm not sure how I missed it....it's not exactly small.

SIDENOTE:
the pic with odinthor digging in the front yard does look rather...ummm...mysterious.
-makes me think of the rose bushes in Rear Window where everyone thinks Raymond Burr buried his wife's head.




https://imageshack.com/a/img924/9917/Fysu99.gif
GIPHY

CaliNative Jun 25, 2018 6:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8231632)
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/image...8/krakatoa.jpg

I looked up to see when this film opened. Krakatoa, East of Java premiered at the Cinerama Dome on May 14, 1969.

Then I discovered that this photo was taken a week ago! Apparently, Quentin Tarantino is filming "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood"
that takes place in 1969 and did some filming there.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfl2NwvW0AUR4ve.jpg


When the movie was released the critics had a bit of fun pointing out that Krakatoa is actually WEST of Java.

ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2018 6:22 AM

Earlier today I came across this night view of the Sears Store in Hollywood. [c.1925]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Hp8lgR.png
EBAY

as a reminder, here's what it looks like today.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/ALYMn5.png
GSV

Everytime I see this I :gaah:

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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2018 6:36 AM

Another item currently on ebay.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/znLRFi.jpg
EBAY

Out on the town at
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/C1OV4k.jpg


for search purposes:
Billy Berg's - 1356 North Vine Street - Hollywood California - May 25, 1945

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/5zEL4a.jpg

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ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2018 7:05 AM

Here's one more before I call it a night.

'Orig 1958 Kodak Star 35mm Slide LAX Airport Parking Lot Los Angeles CA Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DsZbS6.jpg
EBAY

This lot appears to be on the outer edge of the airport. I wonder where [in the scheme of things] this parking lot was located.

(anyone have a map of LAX from this time period?

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Otis Criblecoblis Jun 25, 2018 7:06 AM

John Hubbard
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8230187)

I recently got a new DVD release of three Roach Films. I've seen two of them so far. Online there's some divergent opinions on TURNABOUT, but I think it's a veritable hoot! (Plus great art deco sets.) It's based on a Thorne Smith novel. Smith also was famous for writing the novels of Topper and I Married a Witch.

I like Turnabout. it has a delightful cast, and it's great to see John Hubbard in a lead role. I greatly enjoy Hubbard's work in 77 Sunset Strip, which reveals a remarkable versatility. He's in several of the best episodes.

CityBoyDoug Jun 25, 2018 7:36 AM

http://www.latimes.com/resizer/vqqrv...4HEG7FXRHY.jpg
LATIMES

1958: American Airlines' flight engineer Frank Nusser, left, and Capt. Don Young wait by their aircraft for fog to lift at Los Angeles International Airport. ((John Malmin / Los Angeles Times))

BillinGlendaleCA Jun 25, 2018 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8231842)
Rounded low hills and valleys kind of look like near northside area of L.A., perhaps Highland Park, Atwater, El Sereno etc. Beyond that, can't say. Maybe the hill the photographer is standing on is in Elysian Park near where Dodger Stadium is now??

My guess is the photographer is standing new Point Grand View in Elysian Park. You can see the San Gabriels in the far background.

DCT61 Jun 25, 2018 11:54 AM

FINALLY!!! After all these years lurking on this site, I can finally contribute!
The architectural feature found on those homes ("birdhouses") is called a
DOVECOTE. I'm a Architectural designer here in Nashville, TN and have put them on houses occasionally.

From Wiki: A dovecote or dovecot /ˈdʌvkɒt/ (Scots: doocot) is a structure intended to house pigeons or doves. Dovecotes may be free-standing structures in a variety of shapes, or built into the end of a house or barn. They generally contain pigeonholes for the birds to nest.

odinthor Jun 25, 2018 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231852)
Thanks for all the follow-ups on the Martin House vs Air Holes)
so we're....undecided then :shrug: half says bird house...half says vent holes

Don't you have to occasionally clean out birdhouses?

odinthor, is there a way to gain entry into the birdhouse from inside your attic?
You know, like a removable panel that you can unscrew.

:previous: I didn't notice the birdhouse the first time you posted this photo odinthor. I'm not sure how I missed it....it's not exactly small.

SIDENOTE:
the pic with odinthor digging in the front yard does look rather...ummm...mysterious.
-makes me think of the rose bushes in Rear Window where everyone thinks Raymond Burr buried his wife's head.




https://imageshack.com/a/img924/9917/Fysu99.gif
GIPHY

Thanks, e_r: It's immediately adjacent to, but disjunct from, the house proper, other than the two beams which project from the house and support the dovecote (thanks, DCT61!). It would be possible to have a little door in the back panel of the dovecote, giving access from the house's roof to the interior of it . . . but it was not built with one. The main function of the back panel seems to have been for . . . house painters to ignore it. I happened to be on the roof one day, scanning the horizon for invading Visigoths, noticed its state of neglect, and have ever since made sure house painters do not neglect it. Birds, however, get no use of the feature, as the birdholes have screens. It's decorative, and provides a little styling; but one could say it's strictly for da boids.

Just my luck to have the Googlemobile catch me as I . . . added organic material to the soil . . . ;)

Cyndihdz Jun 25, 2018 5:55 PM

Old building in Huntington Park
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7829382)
:previous: I did. :)

below: See that large building in the background on the right?

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...nSignShop2.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/25cVkp.jpg
gsv

It looks like it might have been a large auditorium of some sort? An intriguing building to say the least.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/61w9zc.jpg
google_earth

Here it is in relation to the old sign shop location.

_[/QUOTE]

Hello....i just found a picture of this building here from the 60's
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metrol...posted-public/
I think it was a Bank of America? It is a little blurry for my eyes. Anyway sorry if someone already posted this, i pass by here frequently and some old buildings and houses still stand. Some. *sigh*

Flyingwedge Jun 25, 2018 8:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCT61 (Post 8231920)
FINALLY!!! After all these years lurking on this site, I can finally contribute!
The architectural feature found on those homes ("birdhouses") is called a
DOVECOTE. I'm a Architectural designer here in Nashville, TN and have put them on houses occasionally.

From Wiki: A dovecote or dovecot /ˈdʌvkɒt/ (Scots: doocot) is a structure intended to house pigeons or doves. Dovecotes may be free-standing structures in a variety of shapes, or built into the end of a house or barn. They generally contain pigeonholes for the birds to nest.

Thanks for the lingo, DCT61!

There are a number of homes in Westchester with dovecots, although not all the dovecots have holes; e.g., 6386 W. 79th Street:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pswltjrrbg.jpg

Nov 2017 GSV

Next door, 6382 W. 79th Street's dovecot is also without holes. Across the street, the dovecots at 6371 and 6391 W. 79th
have holes. The dovecots at 7342 and 7366 W. 87th Place have holes, as does the dovecot at 8010 Georgetown Avenue,
but 8121 Georgetown's dovecot has slats instead.

All the above-mentioned homes were built in 1950-51.

ethereal_reality Jun 25, 2018 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCT61 (Post 8231920)
FINALLY!!! After all these years lurking on this site, I can finally contribute!
The architectural feature found on those homes ("birdhouses") is called a
DOVECOTE. I'm a Architectural designer here in Nashville, TN and have put them on houses occasionally.

Thanks for the information DCT61!



Here's a half-assed lazy attempt at a dovecote.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/OnoCmC.jpg
pinterest

or maybe it's for one-dimensional birds

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ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2018 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyndihdz (Post 8232208)
Hello....I just found a picture of this building here from the 60's.

I think it was a Bank of America? It is a little blurry for my eyes. Anyway sorry if someone already posted this,
I pass by here frequently and some old buildings and houses still stand. Some. *sigh*

Cyndihdz
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/uQs7Mr.jpg
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Thanks for your help Cyndi!

You're right, Bank of America occupies the bottom corner of the building -but the second floor definitely appears to be some kind of assembly hall (masons?)
If only we could read the green canopy at the farther end of the building. That entrance probably leads upstairs. (& if we could read the two smaller blade signs)


afterthought:
We might have figured all this out earlier in the thread..but my memory fails me.
Does anyone remember our earlier findings?

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2018 1:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8231601)
The house below was also Hazel's abode!

So for one year Hazel and Gidget were living together!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8231578)
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...dgetHouse2.jpg
www.retroweb.com

For years (1980s/90s) it was Roger Murtaugh's house too.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Ssmyr2.jpg
ITSFILMEDTHERE

re: Robert Murtaugh/Lethal Weapon

so how'd they do this pre-digital fire scene without destroying the house? Did they simply rebuild it....because it's still standing, correct?

(I hope Hazel and Gidget got out)

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2018 1:33 AM

X MARKS THE SPOT.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DyLtZO.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliNative (Post 8231842)
Rounded low hills and valleys kind of look like near northside area of L.A., perhaps Highland Park, Atwater, El Sereno etc. Beyond that, can't say.
Maybe the hill the photographer is standing on is in Elysian Park near where Dodger Stadium is now??

Thanks for your help CaliNative! I'll check out the places you mentioned. I'm gassing up the google-mobile right now. ;)

Scott Charles Jun 26, 2018 2:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8232781)
X MARKS THE SPOT.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/DyLtZO.jpg

Thanks for your help CaliNative! I'll check out the places you mentioned. I'm gassing up the google-mobile right now. ;)

My first thought was Frogtown, as seen from Elysian Park. But I checked it out on Google Maps, and couldn’t get any of the streets to match up.

Lorendoc Jun 26, 2018 5:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8231878)
Here's one more before I call it a night.

'Orig 1958 Kodak Star 35mm Slide LAX Airport Parking Lot Los Angeles CA Photo"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/DsZbS6.jpg
EBAY

This lot appears to be on the outer edge of the airport. I wonder where [in the scheme of things] this parking lot was located.

(anyone have a map of LAX from this time period?

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Thanks for posting this, e_r. I learned to fly light planes at Santa Monica Airport that the City of Santa Monica is so busy trying to close. About 10 years ago my instructor one evening told me we (I) was going to fly us from Santa Monica to LAX, then back again. So I flew us in a Cessna 182 in and out; it was like being a dwarf in the Land of the Giants. To say I was super-alert would be an understatement :) My mother learned to fly Piper Cubs at the Grand Central Airport in 1947, it ran in the family it seems :)

The historic aerials site shows that the original LAX developed to the east of today's south complex (runways 7/25). I've posted 1 photo with 100% 1958 aerials, another with 50/50 1958 aerials/modern streets, and finally the modern street layout.

1:
https://i.imgur.com/4EG5p84.jpg
historicaerials.com

2:
https://i.imgur.com/azVXLiL.jpg
historicaerials.com

3:
https://i.imgur.com/RdIWw6n.jpg
historicaerials.com


With the building of the north complex, a new central loop was constructed to the west of Sepulveda Blvd which contained a street level parking lot. This replaced the terminal loop just south of Century Boulevard and east of Sepulveda on Avion Drive.


On the upper left of the 1958 aerial, you can see a neighborhood with many tract homes. These were all gone by the time the north complex was developed, replaced by what is now Lot C. This area suffered the same destructive fate as Surfridge to the west.

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2018 8:10 AM

Terrific information Lorendoc! Thanks so much. I forgot how different the previous layout was when compared to present day LAX. (and it was still the old layout as late as 1963!)
:previous: So which of the Parking lots in the 1963 aerial do you think is the lot in the 1958 slide?
I searched for 1950s brochures (like car rentals) and map/pamphlets (showing the parking lots) but came up short. ZILCH, NOTHING
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P.S. You actually flew into LAX! You are a brave soul sir. And your MOM was a pilot as well.

-have any photographs you'd like to share :)..of you (or your Mom's) flying adventures?

ethereal_reality Jun 26, 2018 9:06 AM

L A L O' S

I have also been searching for a good vintage photograph of Lalo's Nightclub in East Los Angeles.
(or at least a larger version of the postcard below. The club was in business from around 1959/60 to 1974.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/5Oymva.jpg
frontera.library.ucla


Luckily, the top image of the postcard was good enough to make out the basic outline of the building (L shaped and set back a bit from the intersection)

And guess what...the Lalo's building is still there!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/nZkLrO.jpg
GSV / Northeast corner of Cesar E. Chavez Blvd. and N. Marianna Ave.

The building doesn't appear to have changed much.





Back in the club's heyday Lalo would even sign your menu. (that's a deal)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/tBeGob.jpg
Lalo's 4209 Brookyn Avenue AN-2-8017 * Los Angeles


You can read about Lalo Guerrero HERE, and HERE (Part 2)
His story is very interesting.

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