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Your post just taught me something, HossC.
After reading ER's post, I too tried to look back in time in Google Street View, but the interface was missing the popup to view street view versions from the past: https://i.imgur.com/u3mToNC.jpg ... and yet, you were able to find a version of the scene from 2011. So there had to be a way to get to the past versions. Eventually, I figured it out: If you search for "Calgrove Kennels" on Google Maps then you DON'T get the option to go back in time. But if you search for the ADDRESS, in other words "24314 The Old Road", then you DO get the option to go back in time: https://i.imgur.com/ZlZoCX9.gif Both searches will take you to the exact same location... but only the address search will allow you to view past versions. Strange, but true. Anyway, something to keep in mind when doing Google Street View searches. |
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Sometimes the older views only show themselves if you move the view point - don't ask me why. :shrug: |
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This one is a few miles from my house GSV Did you know there's even a song, 'Oak of the Golden Dream'. (they pretty much fit every detail of the story into the song) And it's GOOD! Made me feel westerny. :cowboy: __ |
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I'm guessing the deco columns are from a more recent movie, and not from a movie from the actual art deco period (late 20s thru the 30s) A pre-digital movie perhaps....like Dick Tracy [1990] or...(I can't think of any others off the top of my head) __ |
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For example: A few days ago I came across these two amateur snapshots. The photographs were taken by a tourist visiting Universal Studios. "CALIFORNIA UNIVERSAL STUDIOS- THE HONEYMOONERS - original Snapshot Photo 1917" https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/AHZRKf.jpg EBAY I believe the photographs were taken from bleachers specifically set up for visitors. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/L6Um61.jpg EBAY As you can see from the edges, the photographs were found in a personal photo album. Luckily, this information was written on the back of ea. photo. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/jycdtB.jpg I don't know whether or not 'The Honeymooners' is a lost film, but if it is lost, these two simple snapshots would be invaluable. Here's a closer look at the actors. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/iMu6Ah.jpg __ |
Not to sharpen the pen too tight but I question the ''date'' of the writing on the back of the photo. Is it contemporary with 1917.?
This was a short 10 minute comedy film. Staring ... Stars: Patricia Palmer, Harry Ham, Ethel Lynne The director was Al Christie Owned by the Christie Film Company...but was it filmed on the Universal lot.[?] Not much information listed in IMDb. |
Interesting, ER!
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Of course, the caption on the back of the photo could be incorrect. As to the writing itself, does it look to you guys like writing made by a dip (or nib) pen? It certainly doesn't resemble most of the writing we usually see that's been made by a dip pen, it kind of looks like writing made with a ballpoint pen - and the first commercially successful ballpoint pen was mass marketed in the States on October 29th, 1945. Or perhaps my eyes are playing tricks on me because we're used to seeing handwriting in cursive form, not manuscript style (aka, block letters)? |
Whitley Heights before the Hollywood Freeway
I'd guess that this undated photo was taken c. 1935. It may have been taken from the High Tower Drive elevator or a
nearby hill just south of the Hollywood Bowl. Below the blue dot is the First Presbyterian Church of Hollywood at Gower and Carlos, and below the red dot are the Hollywood Tower Apartments at Franklin and Vista Del Mar (the Hollywood Freeway now runs between them). Above the green dot is Whitley Terrace; Wedgewood Place and Milner Road end at Whitley Terrace on the left and right of the green dot, respectively. We're looking east: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psj8kymh7s.jpg Islandora/UCLA Looking just a bit closer, the Hollywood Tower Apts. and the church are in the upper right corner. Marked by dots are . . . Red = 6817 Whitley Terrace Orange = 2133 Fairfield Ave Blue = 2074 Watsonia Terrace Yellow = 2062 Watsonia Terrace http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pshvvbruy7.jpg Here is a contemporary view of the foreground from the above, with the same four houses marked with the same colored dots. A fifth home, 6737 Whitley Terrace (building permit dated Aug 4, 1997), is marked by a purple dot. There is a green box in the freeway that says 9B. Directly below it and next to the freeway is a house with a white roof, 6758 Wedgewood Place: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0f47xzui.jpg Here is Rudolph Valentino's home at 6776 Wedgewood Place (to the right/south of 6758), lost to the freeway: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9lglmw8v.jpg Silentsaregolden Zooming in a bit more on the original photo (with 2133 Fairfield and its orange dot at bottom center), in the red box I think we see the side and chimney of Valentino's 6776 Wedgewood. The house behind it in the green box is visible in the postcard view of 6776 above, just below the words Hollywood, Los Angeles: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psxh5rpplq.jpg Here's another shot of Valentino's 6776 Wedgewood Place, this time with Valentino, his 1923 Voisin, and two dogs: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...pstfodxgpp.jpg Myloveofoldhollywood This is Valentino in his 1923 Voisin, in front of a garage numbered 6737. Given how close 6776 Wedgewood Place and 6737 Whitley Terrace were to each other, this photo might have been taken at 6737 Whitley Terrace, but it's totally a guess (we can't see the garage in the vintage photo). The garage there now is new but bears a strong resemblance to what we see here: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...psyd5tsvev.jpg FW photo I know the car is a 1923 Voisin because I saw this sign: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...u.jpg~original FW Photo And here is Valentino's 1923 Voisin, which snaked through the streets of Whitley Heights: http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original FW photo The last three photos were taken at the Nethercutt Museum in Sylmar CA. |
That Viosin costs $14K in 1923. In 2018 that amounts about $200.000 dollars....USD.
The Voisin antique cars go for prices in the one and two million dollar range.[2018]. Rudy always liked to invite his youthful Mexican gardeners to his Sunday house parties. The elite of Hollywood were rather taken aback by his choice of guests. Make of that what you will. |
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Cheers, Earl |
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I think you're correct. The text does have that variable-width-line that you only really get with a fountain pen... By the way, "fountain pen"! That is EXACTLY the word I was trying to remember while writing my post, but for the life of me I couldn't remember it. I must be losing my mind! :D |
. In your original post about the Calgrove Kennels, E_R, you posted a photo with the Hamburglar Mayor McCheese Officer Big Mac very prominently shown. In the distant background facing away from the camera was what looked liked Bugs Bunny with his back to us riding upon a horse. I looked for a better photo of that and found this, and the article states Bugs Bunny was not the original rider of the horse, it was a troll:http://www.thecoasterguy.com/wordpre...History_03.jpg The article you first linked with your photos about Calgrove Kennels closing, doesn't mention this at all, but they do talk about the owner, Mike Lovingood. The article that I located states that Mike got most of his items from Six Flags Magic Mountain and that he used to work there, but kept on good terms with the place after he left. Here's a link to that article, with lots of photos and where the things came from at Six Flags. http://www.thecoasterguy.com/2012/03...ountains-past/ There isn't any mention of those art deco columns, though. Quote:
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HossC posted a large close-up color photo of the above pic, along with a current GSV photo of the location, here: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23374 And Wig-Wag comments on one of the vehicles you remember seeing there sitting outside the place, E_R: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23380 (I remember those, too.) And a couple other references: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23373 http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23382 |
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Or, 'scuse me, I should say, Dang! Real purdy ditty, pardner! |
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http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...cerBigMac1.jpg empressmess.wordpress.com Thanks for the Mike Lovingood/Calgrove Kennels link, Martin Pal. |
There was a Mayor McCheese and an Officer Big Mack!?!
I thought it was just the Hamburgler, not a Mcmunicipality. __ |
re: fountain pen debate
CityBoyDoug, Scott Charles and Earl Boebert: Here is another photograph with the same style of writing on the back. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/iJvjLi.jpg EBAY https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/62wDnd.jpg but this one appears to have been written with a slightly different pen or thinner stylus. (perhaps by a different person :shrug:) for comparison: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/jycdtB.jpg note: The ebay seller might have use the Busch Gardens photograph to date 'The Honeymooners' photograph [which is missing the date. __ |
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