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odinthor Aug 14, 2017 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7892267)


Well, I don't know about "wise and learned," but I can offer some information that may be of interest to your querier.

Below, from right to left, we have the five-story H. D. Stack Building (formerly the Mason Building) at the SE corner of
4th and Broadway, then the three-story Hulda Block, then 20-foot-wide Frank Court (an alley), then the Angelus Hotel
on the SW corner of 4th and Spring:



Here is the 1906 Sanborn Map, showing the Mason (later Stack) and Hulda buildings, Frank Court (unnamed here but the
1950 Sanborn uses the name, as does Google Map today), and the Angelus. You can see the third-floor inclosed passage
across Frank Court ("INCL. PASSAGE") between the Angelus and the rear of the Hulda. The Angelus has an underground
boiler room (sticking out into Frank Court on the map), and the Mason Building is marked "HEAT FROM ANGELUS HOTEL,"
so there was probably at least a steam tunnel connecting the two buildings. That's 4th Street running along the right edge:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...y.jpg~original

1906 Sanborn @ ProQuest via LAPL


The Hulda Block was built by Mrs. Hulda Behrendt. The building permit was issued on May 20, 1896:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...6.jpg~original

May 21, 1896, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


By the time she sold her building in 1903, the upper two stories were leased by the Angelus as an annex.
That explains the passage between the two buildings, which is absent from the 1950 Sanborn Map:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...l.jpg~original

April 22, 1903, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


Here's some more history on the Hulda Block:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...q.jpg~original

August 25, 1957, Los Angeles Times @ ProQuest via LAPL


As interesting as the preceding article may be, please note that 1) the three-story Hulda Building was never LA's tallest, and
2) the city jail on Second Street ("[the] jail, where the Mirror-News Building is now located") closed on August 26, 1896, so
it seems unlikely that gamblers were taken from the Hulda -- which didn't get its BP until May 20, 1896 -- to that jail.


Late Update: There is a June 2, 1932, building permit for the Hulda Block at 218 W. 4th St. to "Brick up opening on third floor
at alley," so that's got to be the end of the passage over Frank Court to the Angelus Hotel.

Yes, I'll maintain that "wise and learned" applies! :cheers:

I'm sure my querier will be delighted--a million thanks!

Beaudry Aug 14, 2017 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline (Post 7891723)

Now there's an image of Bunker Hill I haven't seen before! That's the back of Beth Israel, written about here and which was demolished in 1949.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00081/00081596.jpglapl

A look at the block in 1941, that's Olive & Temple lower right, the two unmistakable domes nearby at 227 N Olive.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4382/...11ea051e_h.jpg
Flight C_7334, Frame 57 from http://mil.library.ucsb.edu/ap_indexes/FrameFinder/

ethereal_reality Aug 15, 2017 3:02 AM

I want to show you this rather dreamy photograph of the old Forthmann Carriage House.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/ePIOb3.jpg
flickr

The photographer, J. Jakobson, used film rather than digital. A Fujica ST705w SLR on expired cross-processed Agfachrome RS1000 slide film @iso50.
but he doesn't mention when he took his photo (it was uploaded to flickr relatively recent, on May 10, 2017)


The last time the carriage house made an appearance on NLA was three years ago. (Tetsu's post shown below)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetsu (Post 6404313)
[B]
The carriage house from the original Forthmann property was moved to 812 E. Edgeware Rd. in Angelino Heights. Apparently it's been sitting on these extra high stilts for a while now, waiting to have a new first floor constructed under it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2410/...e48a041015.jpgBig Orange Landmarks

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re: the dreamlike photo:

I'm guessing the Jakobson photo was taken soon after it was moved to the new location.
the photo made me curious the restoration. Is the carriage house still on stilts? -has that first floor been built?


It isn't clear in the google street views.

In this 2011 view the carriage house appears to be raised on stilts (the carriage house is obscured in the later street views)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/SS5Lij.jpg
gsv



In this more recent view from the alley, it looks like there might be a first floor. -it's hard to tell because of that mound of dirt.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/KThi6M.jpg

Mr. Jakobson writes "it is currently owned and in the process of restoration by Ithyle Griffiths and Angela Kohler."

Does anyone in L.A. know the status of the restoration?
(could you look and see if you find yourself in Angelino Heights :))

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GaylordWilshire Aug 15, 2017 5:33 PM

QUERY


We all know that the search feature of skyscraperpage, including NLA, is inadequate, to put it kindly without cussing. At one point, one of our tech-savvy contributors posted a way to search the thread via Google, or some way other than the #$%&@ "Search this Thread" drop-down box at upper right. (I tried using it to find the answer to this query, and, shocker, no luck.)

HossC? Anyone?

HossC Aug 15, 2017 6:29 PM

:previous:

The method I use is go to Google and type something like:

Code:

site:http://forum.skyscraperpage.com noirish adams cloverdale
For compound terms, use quotes:

Code:

site:http://forum.skyscraperpage.com noirish "city hall"
Just make sure that noirish is in there somewhere.

This method also works for image searches, although I normally get a disproportionate number of my own images because the word "Noirish" is in the path of my Photobucket images.

ethereal_reality Aug 15, 2017 11:44 PM

I do something very similar.

After using the skyscraperpage search, I double check by using Google 'Images' and type 'noirish' in front of what I'm searching for. (like Hoss suggested)

Or if you can remember a certain word or phrase that was used in an old post, go to Google (but not 'images' this time) and type "noirish los angeles" in front
of that word or phrase.

Does that make sense?
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I see the thread was especially slow today. I had to take my Mother to the doctor in Illinois.
I have numerous photos lined up to post in the next hour or so.

ethereal_reality Aug 16, 2017 12:45 AM

OK, I just used all three of my search methods...and this video didn't show up



The 25th Man, 1962. (link directly below)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...coll88/id/1434

28 minute LAPD video:

Sadly, it's missing the sound so it drags a bit...but it's definitely worth a look.

Chief Parker appears in several scenes (a scant four years before his fatal heart attack)

like in this scene on the roof of the Parker Center.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/ToIDM4.jpg

That's him, right?




and the Parker Center itself.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/c2OyFC.jpg




A noirish view of one of the Arroyo Seco Parkway tunnels.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/BlfDY3.jpg





A new recruit.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/dmYzFa.jpg
s w o o n




A glimpse of the Italian Kitchen in the Commercial Exchange Building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/Yg2gOv.jpg





White gloved traffic cop and 'Cinderfella' showing at the RKO Hillstreet Theater. (Cinderfella was released in 1960) -so the date of the video (1962) might be a bit off.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/4DlMQO.jpg






Inspection in a 'sunken' parking lot.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/uvRAlC.jpg





A visit to school children

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/vu963G.jpg

note the school-sized incinerator.




Lastly, I've been trying to figure out the strange structure in the distance that resembles a giant barber pole.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/heKdIh.jpg

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If we have already seen this video on NLA you can disregard all three of my search suggestions.

CityBoyDoug Aug 16, 2017 3:08 AM

war ends in Hollywood.......August 14, 1945

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4343/...cf72a1_z_d.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4343/...cd10b4_o_d.jpg

odinthor Aug 16, 2017 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7894052)

[...]

Lastly, I've been trying to figure out the strange structure in the distance that resembles a giant barber pole.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/heKdIh.jpg

[...]

Sadly, it is evidently not the world's tallest barber pole, which is in Forest Grove, Oregon:

https://s26.postimg.org/q7ndczz09/Barber.jpg
credit in image; frame added

Martin Pal Aug 16, 2017 6:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7894234)


Thanks, CBD, never saw this one before.

JeffDiego Aug 16, 2017 9:20 PM

War ends in Hollywood
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7894234)


Neat picture, Doug. This may be off-the-wall, but the gorgeous young woman holding the paper while perched on some enlisted men's shoulders looks very much like "Acquanetta," lead actress in some Universal horror films around 1944-45.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/QdTH1O.jpg
Acquanetta, campy 1940's Universal star of "Captive Wild Woman."
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1125/...f6590aaf23.jpg



Acquanetta, called "The Venezuelan Volcano" by Universal Studios publicity, was apparently born Mildred Davenport in either Ozone, Wyoming, or Norristown, Pennsylvania. Her rather mysterious origin was either Arapaho Native American, or part African-American, but definitely not Venezuelan.

Author Richard Lamparski says that during a promotional event for one of his "Whatever Became Of?" books at a San Fernando Valley bookstore (I believe this was in the 1970's), it was Acquanetta whose appearance drove the crowd wild because of her "Camp" status as a long-forgotten and kind of bizarro 1940's starlet. There were about a dozen other former celebrities there, but a group of gay men started chanting "Acquanetta, Acquanetta" as she appeared, and the crowd joined in. Acquanetta was thrilled.

CityBoyDoug Aug 16, 2017 9:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 7895056)
Neat picture, Doug. This may be off-the-wall, but the gorgeous young woman holding the paper while perched on some enlisted men's shoulders looks very much like "Acquanetta," lead actress in some Universal horror films around 1944-45.

Author Richard Lamparski says that during a promotional event for one of his "Whatever Became Of?" books at a San Fernando Valley bookstore (I believe this was in the 1970's), it was Acquanetta whose appearance drove the crowd wild because of her "Camp" status as a long-forgotten and kind of bizarro 1940's starlet. There were about a dozen other former celebrities there, but a group of gay men started chanting "Acquanetta, Acquanetta" as she appeared, and the crowd joined in. Acquanetta was thrilled.


Jeff....Martin....Richard Lamparski? Great outré historian, I've read all of his books.

When Richard called an actor for an interview...you knew your career was over.;);)

Gloria and Richard

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u2v2vImg98...Blamparski.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u2v2vImg98...Blamparski.JPG

CityBoyDoug Aug 17, 2017 1:37 AM

Logan Heights LA

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/3d/3f/0d/3...b8e79cfb77.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/3d/3f/0d/3...b8e79cfb77.jpg

JeffDiego Aug 17, 2017 5:48 AM

Acquanetta
 
AN ARTICLE about Acquanetta in a blog called "Vintage Black Glamour" by Michelle Gainer:

http://vintageblackglamour.tumblr.co...e-was-promoted


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/hXWweC.jpg
The Universal "Inner Sanctum" mystery "Dead Man's Eyes," 1944
https://thetelltalemind.files.wordpr...mans-eyes4.jpg


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/GhvhjO.jpg
Acquanetta with Lon Chaney, Jr., "Dead Man's Eyes" 1944, clothes by Vera West
https://thetelltalemind.files.wordpr...mans-eyes6.jpg

ethereal_reality Aug 17, 2017 2:28 PM

A few days ago I happened upon this interesting photograph. It was labeled...

"Wynyate House, South Pasadena. This was the home of Margaret Collier Graham and Donald Graham."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/L52abD.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/231442868320697049/


It turns out this is 'East Wynyate House', a smaller home built on the Graham property in 1896. (for Mrs. Graham's relatives)



This is Wynyate House.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/NF5Ri7.jpg
https://calisphere.org/item/ark:/13030/kt2v19q85k/

This three-story redwood Queen Anne Victorian mansion was built in 1887 for Donald M. Graham, the first mayor of South Pasadena, and his wife, Margaret Collier Graham,
a well-known writer and literary figure. (Wynyate is Welsh for "vineyard")

(no address was given)

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ethereal_reality Aug 17, 2017 2:56 PM

I believe this amazing photograph from 1930 is new to NLA. (I could be wrong of course :))


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/7xqyGG.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/...f1b05e54_o.jpg


The police station in the photograph was located at 1629 Cahuenga Avenue, just north of Selma Avenue. It shared the building with the fire department.
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GaylordWilshire Aug 17, 2017 3:05 PM

I just discovered 'Above Suspicion'--not the 1943 Joan Crawford/Fred MacMurray movie, but the British TV series of a few years ago, with the great Ciaran Hinds, Kelly Reilly, and even including Sylvia Syms in one season called The Red Dahlia...based on our old friend Elizabeth Short. The Brit victim around which the three episodes center is cut up exactly like Short was...etc etc. Quirky series worth looking into...


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/o6...=w1063-h375-no

ethereal_reality Aug 17, 2017 3:14 PM

:previous: Sound interesting Hoss. Thanks for the heads up.



This pic might be new (to NLA) too.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/p5y9Dh.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/159737118008904716/

"A group of Los Angeles policemen walking at an undisclosed location." (1950s?)

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John Maddox Roberts Aug 17, 2017 3:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7895787)
:previous: Sound interesting Hoss. Thanks for the heads up.



This pic might be new (to NLA) too.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/p5y9Dh.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/159737118008904716/

A group of Los Angeles policemen walking at an undisclosed location. (1950s?)

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I've never seen these greatcoats before. It gives them an alarmingly fascist look.

Wig-Wag Aug 17, 2017 3:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7895787)
:previous: Sound interesting Hoss. Thanks for the heads up.



This pic might be new (to NLA) too.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/p5y9Dh.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/159737118008904716/

A group of Los Angeles policemen walking at an undisclosed location. (1950s?)

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Newest car in photo is the 1956 Chevy to the left of the officers.

Cheers,
Jack


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