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ethereal_reality Jan 5, 2017 10:21 PM

:previous: It does look somewhat better.

Thanks t2.
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The interior is tasteful.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/KiQ5if.jpg
http://www.iamnotastalker.com/2009/0...canso-gardens/

except for the wrinkled curtains. ;)

(my mother would say...."maybe it's the material")
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GaylordWilshire Jan 5, 2017 10:29 PM

:previous:


Hmmm...maybe we humans don't have it over fish or birds when it comes to this house after all. A little institutional-looking.

Interiors might be better-- yes, except for those curtains-- do you suppose the wrinkling and puddling is intentional?

Earl Boebert Jan 5, 2017 11:16 PM

I'd call the exterior and interior "20th Century Faux Federal."

Sorry, couldn't resist. :-)

Cheers,

Earl

Tourmaline Jan 6, 2017 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 7668787)
I guess GW is right. I recognize the white building on the right with the 9 rectangular windows. We've seen it numerous times. It was located on the east sidewalk of Hill Street just south of the back of the Plaza Church. And it seems I see the shape of a gaz tank behind the building.


Le M├ętro?
http://bernardjolivalt.blog.lemonde....0/DSF1207w.jpghttp://bernardjolivalt.blog.lemonde....0/DSF1207w.jpg

Gare de Lyon?
https://cdn1.opnminded.com/wp-conten...7804_D9_bw.jpghttps://cdn1.opnminded.com/wp-conten...7804_D9_bw.jpg

Martin Pal Jan 6, 2017 12:40 AM

:previous:


Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7668695)
There are even descriptions of the sailor "walking in the snow"--which I'm not seeing.

I read some of those things, too, in looking at some links. Really, if it were New York and in the snow the sailor would at least be wearing a pea coat.

I'm pretty convinced by everyone's thoughts so far, and looking at various things myself, that this is Los Angeles.

Since the sailor has his duffle, he is probably walking over to Union Station, would be my guess. Since there's no one else around and a vague car in the distance, why the photographer was there is anyone's guess!

CityBoyDoug Jan 6, 2017 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7668854)
OK, OK, here is the Descanso house from a human POV:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Z4...zlU=w1366-h768
gardentourist

I keep seeing photos of this atrocious looking house on NLA and I do believe that I have now suffered some brain damage.

I asked my housekeeper to please bring me an Advil. I hope I'll feel better in the morning.

T2....are you OK?

tovangar2 Jan 6, 2017 1:32 AM

:previous:

LOL.

We've seen worse

ethereal_reality Jan 6, 2017 1:35 AM

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/5750/QpYazY.gif

Not to beat a dead horse but...



The New York Photo Review goes a step further and includes New York in their description of the photograph.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/lIBxK6.jpg


Here's the link to the complete article.
http://www.nyphotoreview.com/NYPR_RE...R_REV3911.html

ethereal_reality Jan 6, 2017 2:19 AM

These slides came from Los Angeles planning department. (but I found them on ebay)

Four 35mm color slides from the 1970s.


#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/DxAGiM.jpg
ebay

Jun 72

This is the only slide that had any information other than the date. "Lk east Whittier E Lorena"




#2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/hhn48w.jpg

Feb 72

there's no information, but if you look closely there's a 3rd Street sign.




#3
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/64L1PC.jpg
ebay

Jan 72

Let's take a closer look.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/vTGqHI.jpg
detail

:previous: Can anyone make out the name of this bakery? -or the other two stores for that matter





#4
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/421bwn.jpg
ebay

Feb 72
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John Maddox Roberts Jan 6, 2017 3:37 AM

The sailor is going on or returning from a weekend liberty because he's carryin what us Army guys called an AWOL bag. It has enough room to hold a weekend's supplies and is easy to carry on your lap on a bus or plane.
The real mystery is : How does he keep that cap on so far back on his head? Is it pinned there like a yarmulke?

Lorendoc Jan 6, 2017 4:02 AM

Attention GW, AlvaroLegido, e_r:
 
http://i.imgur.com/8IV7WUJ.jpg
UCLA Special Collections

Harry F. Gerguson signals that your table is ready.

tovangar2 Jan 6, 2017 4:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7669008)

I'm pretty convinced by everyone's thoughts so far, and looking at various things myself, that this is Los Angeles.

Agreed. But I'm still missing something. Is the sailor supposed to be near the future site of the Ft Moore Memorial?

In this photo of the 1957 groundbreaking there's no streetlights or railings. I'm still lost (but I'm lost in LA):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ej...2DA=w1366-h768
walknridela

Lorendoc Jan 6, 2017 4:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7669099)
These slides came from Los Angeles planning department. (but I found them on ebay)

#2
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/hhn48w.jpg

Feb 72

there's no information, but if you look closely there's a 3rd Street sign.
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E. 3rd and Breed:
http://i.imgur.com/gqYSb6v.jpg
GSV

Bristolian Jan 6, 2017 4:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7669099)
These slides came from Los Angeles planning department. (but I found them on ebay)

Four 35mm color slides from the 1970s.


#1
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/DxAGiM.jpg
ebay

Jun 72

This is the only slide that had any information other than the date. "Lk east Whittier E Lorena"

I took the "Lk east Whittier E Lorena" to mean Looking east on Whittier Blvd east of Lorena and came up with this:

http://i.imgur.com/KtwiUFA.png?1GSV

This is as close as I could get with GSV but that is the 3443 building minus the sign with the number. The B of A can also be seen in the distance.

jazzrambler Jan 6, 2017 4:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7665596)
A startling and enigmatic photograph.

The only information is Watts #38

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/EdLnNo.jpg
http://tsutpen.blogspot.com/2016/06/watts-38.html

so many questions...

Is the guy on the ground dead?

who's the young man using the movie camera?

does the video exist?
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I suspect it's a staged shot. A real, experienced, photographer would be unlikely to hold that old Bell and Howell camera in that manner.

There's a strap at the bottom of those cameras that allows a leftie, or a rightie, to securely grip the camera. The fellow in the shot is attempting to hold the camera with fingers wrapped around the lens turret. He was probably told to look like he was filming the scene. Problem was, he no idea how to hold the camera.

Plug this phrase into the Google and you'll see what I mean about the strap: "bell and howell news camera"

CityBoyDoug Jan 6, 2017 6:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 7669174)
The sailor is going on or returning from a weekend liberty because he's carryin what us Army guys called an AWOL bag. It has enough room to hold a weekend's supplies and is easy to carry on your lap on a bus or plane.
The real mystery is : How does he keep that cap on so far back on his head? Is it pinned there like a yarmulke?

LOL....no... its simply kept on by friction with the hair.
That 'back of the head' look was finally banned in the 1960s as being very much out-of- uniform.
It became a popular style in WW II and in movies but the Navy Brass did not like it. They said it looked too 'Hollywood' and they put an end to it.

Here is actor Guy Madison [WW II Navyman] in the 1940s looking very sloppy and 'Hollywood'.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pslbq6n7qm.jpg
farm8static flickr



Guy was discovered by talent agent Henry Willson at a radio show taping in Hollywood. Guy was on leave from the Navy and in uniform.
Willson was famous in Hollywood for lurking in the background of public events... looking for pretty boys he could sign for movie
contracts. He often had more than just a casual professional interest in the fledgling actors.

Willson was known for his stable of young, attractive clients, including Rock Hudson, Tab Hunter, Chad Everett, Robert Wagner, Nick Adams, Guy Madison, Troy Donahue, Mike Connors, Rory Calhoun, John Saxon, Clint Walker, Doug McClure, Dack Rambo, Ty Hardin, and John Derek. Noir?

John Maddox Roberts Jan 6, 2017 6:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7669298)
LOL....no... its simply kept on by friction with the hair.
That 'back of the head' look was finally banned in the 1960s as being very much out-of- uniform.
It became a popular style in WW II and in movies but the Navy Brass did not like it. They said it looked too 'Hollywood' and they put an end to it.

Here is actor Guy Madison [WW II Navyman] in the 1940s looking very sloppy and 'Hollywood'.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pslbq6n7qm.jpg
farm8static flickr





Guy was discovered by talent agent Henry Willson at a radio show taping in Hollywood. Guy was on leave from the Navy and in uniform.
Willson was famous in Hollywood for lurking in the background of public events... looking for pretty boys he could sign for movie
contracts. He often had more than just a casual professional interest in the fledgling actors.

My god, Guy Madison! I remember him from "Wild Bill Hickock"! Andy Devine: "Hey, Wild Bill! Wait for me!"

ProphetM Jan 6, 2017 7:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson (Post 6995662)
First I feel a little uneasy with the date on your image. I feel like it's perhaps a year too early. Be that as it may, the building is one of the Brunswig Drug Co. annexes although by this time
it's actually been pressed into service as a temporary address for some of the Municipal/Superior courtrooms displaced by the loss of the County Courthouse (in '33-35) and the subsequent wholly
inadequate 'temporary' buildings on Poundcake Hill.


https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2945/...5f5f6f8d_o.jpgLooking east across Spring Street from Fort Moore Hill, 1949

Looking east across Spring Street and New High Street (partially hidden behind this stand of trees near the bottom)toward Union Station from the Broadway tunnel, on August 4, 1949,
just before the tunnel was demolished. Looking at the rear of the Plaza Church (left foreground), the Brunswig Drug Co. annex building (five-story, white building, right foreground)
L.A. Gas Company gas holders (gasometers), La Plaza Methodist Church and Conference Center, the Plaza (trees), the southern entrance to Olvera Street,
the Pacific Hotel (red brick building on the left) and the Atlantic Hotel (tan brick building next door to the Pacific Hotel).

LAPL, L. Mildred Harris Slide Collection

Dredged up from April 2015, here is a post by Michael Ryerson showing the area in the background of that supposed New York sailor photo. The Brunswig annex prominent on the right, if I recall correctly, is the building that was actually turned sideways 90 degrees, so that it would fit in between New High Street and the newly-extended Spring Street.

This photo was taken slightly more north than the sailor photo, and as noted it was taken from atop the Broadway tunnel before it was demolished. So the sailor photo as was surmised earlier by GW was taken from the new Hill Street, in between the freeway and the Fort Moore Memorial.

CaliNative Jan 6, 2017 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7669011)
I keep seeing photos of this atrocious looking house on NLA and I do believe that I have now suffered some brain damage.

I asked my housekeeper to please bring me an Advil. I hope I'll feel better in the morning.

T2....are you OK?

Looks like a fancy rest home for the aged.

CaliNative Jan 6, 2017 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts (Post 7669323)
My god, Guy Madison! I remember him from "Wild Bill Hickock"! Andy Devine: "Hey, Wild Bill! Wait for me!"

Andy Devine was John Wayne's favorite "sidekick" and possibly even more right wing. I sometimes confuse Andy with Slim Pickens, the cowboy pilot who rode the bomb down in "Dr. Strangelove". Almost interchangable, although Slim didn't have a gimpy walk like Mr. Devine and his voice wasn't as high pitched, and Slim wasn't fat like Andy. Another Andy-like actor was Walter Brennan, but he had a more diverse career. Walter had Andy's a gimpy walk and high-pitched voice, but he wasn't fat like Andy until his later years and like Andy, was a frequent Wayne sidekick. But Andy was Wayne's favorite. Brennan's swan song was grandpa in "The Real McCoys". His film high point was as Judge Roy Bean in that Gary Cooper flicker. He also was in Cooper's Lou Gehrig biopic "Pride of the Yankees". I think Andy Devine would have been a great Judge Roy Bean. Yes, I can see that. Paul Newman, no way. But Andy would have been terrible in "The Hustler" and "Cool Hand Luke", except eating a bunch of hard boiled eggs. Yes, I can see that. And Andy would have called for more. The guy could eat. I once (1961?) saw him digging with gusto into a giant platter of BBQ ribs in a Chris'nPitt's in the Valley with all the fixings. I was just a kid, maybe 7, and my parents sent me over to his table to get his autograph. Andy was grumpy as usual, and wouldn't give me his autograph, barking "get lost kid, can't you see I'm eating?" in his squeeky falsetto voice.


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