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HenryHuntington Feb 14, 2016 5:24 PM

Thanks, Hoss. So the real riddle last night was "When is the Norton Building not the Norton Building?". Having been on that bus deck behind 6th and Main at least a couple of hundred times, it was my first instinct. But I've been conditioned to look for the Hotel Cecil, which because of the angle would be out of the photo to the right. And I've never seen a private automobile parked where the Buick is. Appreciate your squaring me away!

ethereal_reality Feb 14, 2016 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 7335358)
No ER that's the old scout house 2333 Scout Way! they tore down the building in about 06.
....I own the phone booth that was in it...It cost me 5 bucks plus 350 in shipping it out to Dallas.

unihikid, I've been trying to dig up a vintage photograph of the old 'Scout House' but haven't had any luck.


below: Is this the remnants at least?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/CSLZ8b.jpg
google_earth


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unihikid Feb 14, 2016 6:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7335481)
unihikid, I've been trying to dig up a vintage photograph of the old 'Scout House' but haven't had any luck.


below: Is this the remnants at least?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/CSLZ8b.jpg
google_earth


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Ill try and look for a photo. It was a ranch style building that was in ok condition (it had a bad elevator..the scout executive at the time got stuck in it). I want to say it was built around 1954, at least that's when the phone booth was installed. The copper roof building is what replaced it.

HossC Feb 14, 2016 8:12 PM

With so many prominent Stiles Oliver Clements buildings around, it's easy to forget about these smaller projects. Luckily, Julius Shulman photographed quite a few of them. This is "Job 625: Stiles Oliver Clements, Southern California Clinic Building (Los Angeles, Calif.),1949".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

The set includes this single interior view.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

The sign in the first picture identifies the location as Francisco Street and 8th Place. The U-shaped nature of the 8th Place west of Francisco Street meant that it could have been in one of two places. The 1955 aerial view below shows the clinic at the southerly of the two possible locations - it's the single-story white building near the lower-right corner.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original
Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Here are a couple of aerial views to show how the area changed. There's no sign of the clinic on the 1948 view, so I assume it was new when Mr Shulman took his pictures in 1949. The 1952 image (below) shows how close the freeway construction came. By 1994, most of the block next to the freeway was a parking lot, but the clinic building was still standing.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

The clinic finally succumbed to "progress" sometime between 1994 and 2003 (I didn't check the building records). Notice how the shape of 8th Place can still be seen in 2003. By 2004, the whole lot had been resurfaced.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
Historic Aerials

Amazingly, the outline of 8th Place has come back on this more recent aerial view.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7.jpg~original
Google Maps

Visit the area today, and you'll find that the whole block is a construction site for Metropolis Los Angeles. There's more about the development on la.curbed.com.

Earl Boebert Feb 14, 2016 8:20 PM

Here's the Sturges house by Frank Lloyd Wright, built in 1939 and now up for auction, in 1947

https://lamodern.com/wp-content/uplo...-Sturges-2.jpg

https://lamodern.com/wp-content/uplo...-Sturges-2.jpg

Owned since 1967 by the director James Bridges (The Paper Chase, the China Syndrome, Urban Cowboy) and Jack Larson, who played Jimmie Olsen in the TV series The Adventures of Superman. Bridges died in 1993 and Larson died last year, hence the sale.

Much, much more on the house at:

https://lamodern.com/frank-lloyd-wri...ges-residence/

The essays and vintage photographs are fascinating. The address of the place is 449 N Skyewlay Rd, for those who want to take a peek via Google or otherwise. Bid early, bid often :)

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Feb 14, 2016 9:22 PM

:previous:
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/5ofmlk.jpg
gsv




Earl, it reminds me a bit of VanDamm's lair in Alfred Hitchcock's North By Northwest.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/fEQ4KG.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/369787819373916833/

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ethereal_reality Feb 14, 2016 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7335180)
I'm curious to see if the building with the white cupola is still there.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...923/HOUobH.jpg
detail
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Yep, it's still there.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/vSfb0L.jpg
gsv

It's actually two buildings.
One building is facing Benton Way and London St. (shown below), and a second building behind is facing a short street called Dryden Place.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/8IjWf2.jpg


from Dryden Place
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...923/yAiR9o.jpg
gsv

:previous: The arrow is pointing to the cupola you can't see.






The so-called 'cupola' is rather sorry looking. It appears to have been added later by a none-too talented carpenter.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...924/bUEFGm.jpg
detail

I'm not sure what was gained, unless someone liked to watch the traffic on the Hollywood Freeway from up there.
No doubt some old codger with a cheap pair of binoculars and a folding chair. ;)


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CityBoyDoug Feb 14, 2016 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7335627)
:previous:

Earl, it reminds me a bit of VanDamm's lair in Alfred Hitchcock's North By Northwest.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/fEQ4KG.jpg
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/369787819373916833/

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Architect Frank Lloyd Wright was asked to design the house for the movie but he wanted a very large fee [10% of the movie budget which was $3.1 million = $310,000 fee.]. The movie director politely declined.


CityBoyDoug Feb 14, 2016 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7335627)

Floor plan and cross section of Sturges home by Frank Lloyd Wright.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psdv7ahkvt.jpg
Student notes

:previous:

Earl Boebert Feb 15, 2016 12:45 AM

Fascinating, thanks. Quite a small place, considering what grew up around it.

Cheers,

Earl

OLeander5-5225 Feb 15, 2016 1:14 AM

Where to go to find the original?
 
Reposting again for assistance. How does one go about finding an original or copy (clearer than this one) of a photo from the LA Times, 1936? It's a pic of my home designed by Chateau Marmont and El Royale architect, W. Douglas Lee!

http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/...pszahnhixo.png

http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/...pszahnhixo.png

Many thanks,
Jack

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLeander5-5225 (Post 7228432)
Just posting again to see if anyone help me find the original of this photo from the LA Times of my home on Flores Street when it was first built back in 1936.


Flyingwedge Feb 15, 2016 1:37 AM

3320 Griffin Avenue
 
This home is in the Montecito Heights area, just north of E. Avenue 33. Los Angeles County says the house was
built in 1885.

Here is the house in December 2015:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original
GSV

April 2014:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...z.jpg~original
GSV

1888:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...x.jpg~original
BEHR-0062 @ CA State Library

The writing on the photo says that the big "Show House" behind 3320 was destroyed by fire in 1890.

ethereal_reality Feb 15, 2016 2:14 AM

:previous: That's quite a find Flyingwedge!

-so glad 3321 has survived. Now to find out more information on the curved "Show House".
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ethereal_reality Feb 15, 2016 2:52 AM

noirish Wilshire Blvd. [1961]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/6UZFNf.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/1Iij73.jpg



From this Otis Elevator Ad.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/jfq0CA.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-Otis-El...MAAOSwDuJWuh-W

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ethereal_reality Feb 15, 2016 3:09 AM

Speaking of elevators, the Fine Arts Building downtown used the Randall Elevator System [1929]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/Y5LQd6.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/vXY0jw.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1929-RANDALL...wAAOSw-zxWoArv



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...924/vejo2g.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1929-RANDALL...wAAOSw-zxWoArv

ethereal_reality Feb 15, 2016 3:23 AM

When I first saw this giant cube, I was like....What the heck is this!?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/L8Al2r.jpg
detail





"Dangerous Road is Guarded by Monument" [1920]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/921/MAqfkv.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1920-Magazin...sAAOSwoydWn0Ck

:previous: "To Prevent Accident at the Dead End of a Boulevard." -hmmmm....so where in Los Angeles does a prominent boulevard come to a dead end?

Unless I missed something, it doesn't give the actual location.

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HossC Feb 15, 2016 8:21 AM

:previous:

The statues were originally at the end of Wilshire Boulevard, before it was joined to Orange Street across Westlake Park. There's a good article about them on the Silent Locations blog, and information about General Otis on Wikipedia. When the causeway across the park was built, the statues were moved slightly, and the soldier figure is no longer there.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV

GatoVerde Feb 15, 2016 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7334755)
And directly across Vermont Avenue from the delightful Ross Building is this Mount Vernon Wanna-Be.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...922/g94iaH.jpg
gsv

It just seems so out of place. So how old this building?

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I think, though not sure, that this building, a Citibank branch now, was an Utter McKinley mortuary ca. 1979.

GaylordWilshire Feb 15, 2016 1:05 PM

:previous:

I don't see anything to indicate that Utter-McKinley was ever in 400/270 North Vermont, but it did have a facility at 444 South Vermont:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...2520AM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...2520AM.bmp.jpg
California Eagle Dec 13, 1957 / LAT June 16, 1976

GaylordWilshire Feb 15, 2016 1:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7335853)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y...2520AM.bmp.jpg
"To Prevent Accident at the Dead End of a Boulevard." -hmmmm....so where in Los Angeles does a prominent boulevard come to a dead end?

Unless I missed something, it doesn't give the actual location.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7335976)
:previous:

The statues were originally at the end of Wilshire Boulevard, before it was joined to Orange Street across Westlake Park. There's a good article about them on the Silent Locations blog, and information about General Otis on Wikipedia. When the causeway across the park was built, the statues were moved slightly, and the soldier figure is no longer there.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
GSV


Thought maybe we'd covered the missing soldier before, but I've always read that it was destroyed by a car that ran into the monument. I was under the impression that it was decades ago, but unless there was a previous similar incident, it appears to have happened in 2009. Text from the Times of May 11, 2009:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...2520AM.bmp.jpg


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